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Submitted by gaffyh 812d ago | news

DmC Dev: 'I don't care if it sells a thousand units or two million'

DmC developer, Ninja Theory, has been getting a lot of hate from fans of the Devil May Cry series, but it seems like they just don't care. (DmC: Devil May Cry, PC, PS3, Xbox 360)

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Ken22  +   812d ago | Funny
Oh is that so??

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Snookies12  +   812d ago
Lol, of course they don't care! That's be evident from their lack of giving anything that series veterans asked for. I'll give the game a chance, but it's not Devil May Cry, that's for damn sure.
Nitrowolf2  +   812d ago
These guys are spewing crap out of their mouth.
http://www.play.tm/news/341...

Don't get started with Heavenly Sword
http://www.pushsquare.com/n...

TB fair though, this is coming from someone else in the team.
gaffyh  +   812d ago
Heavenly Sword actually had a pretty fun concept, just the combat was not very responsive. I think if Sony Santa Monica made a sequel for it, it would be awesome.
jthamind  +   812d ago
the dev might not care, but the publisher does. lol.
mafiahajeri  +   812d ago
Well we dont care either!!
GamerToons  +   812d ago
I wont be one of the thousands of people buying this "gem"

When we don't buy it, new Dante will go away.

Capcom will be pretty much forced to do the right thing next time.
guitarded77  +   812d ago
They'll care if they all lose their jobs or they can't get funding for their next project.
Kurylo3d  +   812d ago
ill buy it. Old dante is done get over it... it became too corny after dmc1. Least this one tries to make things belong in the real world.
NewMonday  +   812d ago
Sales are the very reason they didn't do HS2.

@Kurylo3d

they actually fixed a few things, its OK now, but i still have trouble giving money to Capcom and NT, rental or used for me.
lizard81288  +   812d ago
When we don't buy it, new Dante will go away.
He's already gone:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www....

It seems Capcom has little faith in the new Dante, since they went with the old one for a new game.
Solid_Snake37  +   812d ago
wow how hard is it to shut the f**k up NT? Clashing against your costumers is not a good idea.
zeal0us  +   812d ago
Crapcom wont have their back this game only sells two thousand copies.
AWBrawler  +   812d ago
@Kury

Corny? DMC? What are you smoking?
DMC 3 was the best one IMO. And I never found the series to be corny
miyamoto  +   812d ago
Well we dont care either!!
Trebius  +   812d ago
to be fair, i was never a huge fan of the DMC series, over the top voice acting and characters made it just silly to me ... the action was good but not so god that i had to buy the game. The reboot i actually want to buy because it looks like theyre fixing what was wrong with the old one and making it appeal to a bigger crowd. Dinosaurs need to adapt. Reboots happen to widen the crowd the game appeals to.
Heartnet  +   812d ago
They dont care since they dont see the money from sales.. they have already got paid.. capcom will care though
Nimblest-Assassin  +   812d ago
"I don't care if it sells a thousand units or two million'

Well at the rate that they are pissing of DMC fans, I would be surprised if they sold more than 5 copies
Kurylo3d  +   812d ago
prepare to be suprized... im a dmc fan, and i think there going in the right direction.
Stop   812d ago | Spam
Nimblest-Assassin  +   812d ago
@Stop

Nope, 5 at best

@Kurylo3d

0_0 This is my surprised face. As M.Night.Shamalayn would say http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Fylus  +   812d ago
@Nimble, yep and those 5 disagrees you got are those very 5 buying the game;)
I_am_Batman  +   812d ago
I don't get why it pisses DMC fans off. The game isn't even out and all I hear are crying fanboys. Ninja Theory have always made great games (Heavenly Sword, Enslaved). I don't see a reason why The new DMC shouldn't be a great game too.
Rainstorm81  +   812d ago
Thats funny Batman i always thought Ninja Theory mad mediocre games (heavenly sword, Enslaved) so i expected DmC to be no different
gaffyh  +   812d ago
There'll probably be a lot of people who have no idea that they're even making this game, and that the development team is different in any way.
j-blaze  +   812d ago
after this, i don't know why would anyone support them...i mean they just don't seem to care, and on top of that they disrespected the fans and the original developers.....also knowing NT, this game will be 7 or 8hrs max with no replay value...

plenty of amazing action games coming this year:

-Dragon's Dogma
-Anarchy Reigns
-MGR: Revengeance
-Lollipop Chainsaw
-Darksiders 2

hell, you can even import Onechanbara Z, http://www.youtube.com/watc... the gameplay at 1:40.... i swear this game looks and plays much better than this wannabe-DMC game!
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I_am_Batman  +   812d ago
"after this, i don't know why would anyone support them..."
Believe it or not but I buy games for playing them in the first place.
You would prefer Lollipop Chainsaw over the next DMC? A half naked cheerleader killing zombies with a chainsaw. You gotta be kidding me (unless you're 12). Onechanbara Z has a similar concept. I prefer playing a game with a good story and deep characters to playing a game where I have the feeling I'm watching a bloody anime porn made with the creativity of a 3rd grader.
DigitalAnalog  +   812d ago
@I_am_Batman
See, your comment is the reason why devs like them talk so much trash. Lollipop Chainsaw for half-naked? That would be like saying No More Heroes is just about being a raging otaku. I buy games because I look at both the developer's history and the track record he/she provides. It's the same reason I stay away from COD and buy games like Journey, Alan Wake, Heavy Rain etc.
I_am_Batman  +   812d ago
@DigitalAnalog:
That's what I got from the announcment trailer of lollipop chainsaw. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
It's not like they are showing some interesting characters or an original setting. All I get from that trailer is girl in Cheerleader-outfit, zombies (wow now that's an original setting), chainsaw (violence) and horrible voiceacting (the voice actress isn't bad just the acting in this trailer). Now tell me which target group they're aimimg at.

By the way I think that NT telling us that they do not care about sales is plain stupid so I do not protect them for that. I'm just saying that if the game looks good to me I'll buy it no matter what one douchebag of the whole team said. I don't get what the track record has do to with the decision of buying a game. And the developer's history tells me that it's probably going to be a good game because I liked HS and Enslaved. But in the end it's all about that one game. You can't just look at statistics and say if it's going to be a good game or not. A "good" Developer can make a "bad" game and vice versa.

Oh and congratulations to you for staying away from Call of Duty. I don't play CoD either.
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Hayabusa 117  +   811d ago
"A half naked cheerleader killing zombies with a chainsaw. "

Well, when you put it like THAT it seems quite obvious some people would prefer it to DMC...whatever their age.
torchic  +   812d ago
my favourite articles are always DMC5 articles, reading the comments is so entertaining!

I always have a good laugh. it's like a war between Ninja Theory and fans lmao
Heartnet  +   812d ago
Yeh aside from the fact that the fans are making a big deal out of nothing and ninja theory dont care bout it :)

But yes it is a good laugh i must agree :)
Darrius Cole  +   812d ago
Dear Ninja Theory:

Please see the sales figures for Ninja Gaiden 3.

Sincerely,
Darrius Cole

cc:

Capcom
xtremeimport  +   812d ago
i've never played a DmC game, but from what I saw in reviews the last few titles seemed to be lacking what the original offered. So MAYBE, they are just trying to refresh the brand. I dont full understand the character redesign, but hey...dont judge something until you've played it.
Nac  +   812d ago
"Usually the worst creative crimes are made when you're trying to make a game for someone else - some perceived demographic that, in all likelihood, doesn't actually exist."

I don't disagree, I think it should be an expression and not a product. I myself would want to create something that I would want to go through. If my heart isn't in the creation and it is not something I would want to experience than whats the point.

But then again NT have become stewards of a franchise that is not their own, how much expression do they really get to have?
hulk_bash1987  +   812d ago
Damn I was gonna buy the game cause it did look promising to me. But to be honest I don't like their attitude. So it's a no go, I'll take my money else where thank you. Fuck'n D-bag's don't deserve 100+ sales.
bakasora  +   812d ago
Oh mine, good for you!
Darth_Bane79  +   812d ago
They should have just named it something else, but instead they are relying on a well established franchise's name to make their game, disregarding the series origins completely and disrespecting fans. And don't give me that "I don't care for sales" bs, because if that was so then you wouldn't be calling DMC to rely on fanbase for sales.
oricon  +   812d ago
They might not care but Capcom would surely care.
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DeadSpaced  +   812d ago
Deep down, he really does. We all know it.
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BlackPrince 42  +   812d ago
Lack of sales is precisely why Ninja Theory ditched Sony. And Heavenly Sword was actually quite a good game.

Where was all this righteous indignation before?

Who does this guy think he's kidding?
IRetrouk  +   812d ago
Yet heavenly sword sold more than the multiplat enslaved, go figure
Rainstorm81  +   812d ago
I wouldnt be surprised even after the release of DmC, if Heaven;y Sword ends up still being their highest selling game....even with Devil May Cry's name recognition.
The_Devil_Hunter  +   812d ago
Of course he does, its a buisness. No one starts a buisness to loose money NOBODY.
Yes he cares but he just wants to stick to his gut.
StrongMan  +   812d ago
They cared when Heavenly Sword "only" sold 1.5 million units and none of their games have sold that much since.
Exactly what I thought. The same identical thing at 100%.
Darth_Bane79  +   812d ago
I think HS only had big sales because it was starting lineup for the PS3, but if it was released like around now it would flop miserably.
Klipz-Wish  +   812d ago
So what was the big deal with Heavenly Sword's sales way back when?
Magic_Spatula  +   812d ago
According to Tameem, they didn't break even on it, and he blames that on Sony because of lack of advertisement for the game and the PS3 was still new and didn't have a huge install base yet.
Darrius Cole  +   812d ago
And Heavenly Sword was on the back of the PS3 box, and had a product placement in an episode of "Heroes" during prime-time.

Ninja Theory is full of it.
Relientk77  +   812d ago
Old Dante > New/Reboot Emo Dante
WeskerChildReborned  +   812d ago
Ain't that the obvious. Hell i would prefer Nero over the new Dante. Give us DMC5!

@TheRealHeisenberg Oh don't get me wrong, i like Nero as well but i would have rather the people make a DMC5 with Nero again than a reboot cause most reboots/remakes never beat the original.
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TheRealHeisenberg  +   812d ago
Lol, I actually liked Nero. Admittedly though, DMC4 was the first and only DMC game I have played in my 30+ years of gaming. Wish I had considered the series prior to that.
Etseix  +   812d ago
"Hell i would prefer Nero"
Damn, now this is what i call desperation D:
mafiahajeri  +   812d ago
Yes I bet he will be sucking on lollipops and not eating Strawberry sundaes...

@ Megatron LMAO!! Good idea. Something I would expect Megatron to do ;)
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Lavalamp  +   812d ago
Challenge accepted?
NastyLeftHook0  +   812d ago
DmC Dev: 'I don't care if it sells a thousand units or two million'

what if it sold 999 units?
Relientk77  +   812d ago
He wouldn't know what to do and his head would explode because 999 is out of his one thousand to two million unit range.
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NastyLeftHook0  +   812d ago
bingo.
ACBAA  +   812d ago
awkward attempt at being funny tbh.
The_Devil_Hunter  +   812d ago
Especially with that avatar he's got there. lol
Relientk77  +   812d ago
I would like to officially announce that I am not buying this game lol
Gamer3000  +   812d ago
so am i
and why dante look sooo gay ???
NastyLeftHook0  +   812d ago
he has beiber fever
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The_Devil_Hunter  +   812d ago
Not trying to back this Dante up but he looks similiar to the other with the exception of his hair cut and colour. Honestly I see less difference now than what they had shown before. I still think the game needed to be done on MTFramework. 30FPS is killing the gameplay.
WeskerChildReborned  +   812d ago
I would rather buy a DMC5 with Nero as protagonist again.
Kurylo3d  +   812d ago
nero was like justin bieber... this dante looks a little more rugged.

@below...
because he was a pussy.. have u even played dmc4? he not only looked like a bitch, he sounded like one, and acted like one.
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WeskerChildReborned  +   812d ago
@Kuryolo3d, How was Nero anything like Justin Bieber?
oricon  +   812d ago
What do you mean by he was a pussy, they gave him human like personality, you want every character to be like "roar you kidnapped my girlfriend im gonna kill everything i see!"

Im not a fan of Nero but whenever i see characters given real human like emotions and actions for example i use one piece manga.

WARNING ONE PIECE SPOILERS

After the main characters brother dies he moans for his death because of this action the western community were like "OMG they turning Luffy into emo!"

If your family member passes away are you gonna be laughing it or be like Kratos, real talk you aren't.
aDDicteD  +   812d ago
lol, same here!
J86blum  +   812d ago
Same here, but then again im boycotting all of Capcoms games this year.
Godmars290  +   812d ago
Well considering how you've been insulting fans of the franchise, you're certainly looking at low end sales.

Edit:
Seriously, this needs to be circulated over the internet with a "999 or less" goal for first week sales. Worldwide.

@MEGATRON D:
Heck no: They'd still have the initial sales numbers to gloat over.
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Gen0ne  +   812d ago
How about everybody buys it (don't open it) then return it the following day. Just to f*ck with them.
Gen0ne  +   812d ago
Didn't think of that... you are wise sir.
xXxSeTTriPxXx  +   812d ago
"How about everybody buys it (don't open it) then return it the following day. Just to f*ck with them."

this would be the greatest troll of ALL TIME.
h311rais3r  +   812d ago
Heh. I gues they won't care if I don't give em my money :)
DragonKnight  +   812d ago
Tameem flat out said they aren't making the game for fans or the target demographic (i.e. the people most likely to buy the game) but for their own enjoyment. So Tameem, Crapcom will know who to blame when DmC sells like crap. Themselves.
J_Cob  +   812d ago
"Tameem flat out said they aren't making the game for fans or the target demographic (i.e. the people most likely to buy the game) but for their own enjoyment."

I remember reading that Zipper Interactive said the same thing about SOCOM 4.
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ShaunCameron  +   812d ago
I remember reading that Hideki Kamiya more or less said the same thing about Bayonetta. The character design was a mere reflection of what he considered his kind of woman.
ritsuka666  +   812d ago
So they already making excuses...
poo342947294792  +   812d ago
lmao Dante looks like a tranny hooker thats just got a beating from his pimp....why is that ?
2v1  +   812d ago
this is the desciption that fit this character.

why is that?
have you seen a crack head?
Nelson M  +   812d ago
I dont care either !!
Baka-akaB  +   812d ago
So that's why you whined about the sales of your games and found excuses wherever you can for their failures ?

I also love how he throw around the not so random number of "two millions" . That's most likely their revised target number after the initial "5 millions" bs
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TheColbertinator  +   812d ago
Ninja Theory might not care but Capcom certainly does.Once DmC flops,the studio might get dissolved and rightfully so for ruining DmC
BrianC6234  +   812d ago
They're only doing it because Capcom is letting them. I guess Capcom doesn't care.
TheColbertinator  +   812d ago
Capcom does care but only after the sales report comes in.
Uncharted2Vet  +   812d ago
can't dissolve the studio since ninja theory is not owned by capcom. tbh all capcom is doing outsourcing their IP's for is to find their next blue castle studios.
Y_5250  +   812d ago
never played DMC but I like the new look it looks more modern in my point of view
madara0sama  +   812d ago
Play Devil May Cry 3 and you'll know how most of us feel.
Kurylo3d  +   812d ago
if u play dmc3 your first thought is going to be "is this a homo erotic outing?" The open shirt... gay look lol.. fans of that game have no right to complain about the look of dante in this new one.
The_Devil_Hunter  +   812d ago
You call your self a DMC fan yet you somehow have a series of jokes on the original Dante. Unbelievable, you are simply trolling. Just stop and go play Enslaved.
VileAndVicious  +   812d ago
@The Devil Hunter

I dont think that just because he has a few jokes about the look of the original Dante means hes any less of a fan. Just because you are a fan of something doesnt mean you cant dislike certain aspects of it.

And I hate to say it but everyone saying the new Dante looks "gay" (AND by the way he looks like old dante with shorter black hair)the old dante didnt look much better...I mean come on...a dude wearing a BRIGHT red leather jacket with rhinestones? Oh! and spinning on a stripper pole? Or the red chaps and throwing a bunch of roses?? yes they were a little much.

But I agree. NT are making it really hard to root for them with these outlandish comments...but Im starting to think they do this for the attention anyway. Must think its cool or something?
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wenaldy  +   812d ago
Modern what? DMC is always about goth contemporary settings.
Gohadouken  +   812d ago
@Kurylo3d

Seems more like an obsession and personal issue on your end then . I wont claim Dmc3 dante got my favorite costume from the games , but it's still dante being kick ass . And it was done with females to please in mind .

Mind you i'm not one of those that'd call "newdante" gay , just plain ugly , without charm and not appealing to play . His first versions did have that weirdo twilight feel … but now i swear i'm seeing some reject from Jersey Shore .
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Flatbattery  +   812d ago
Don't care huh? Well good luck getting finance for your next project if it bombs.
Reborn  +   812d ago
When you get paid poorly, you will care.

Should keep these type of comments to yourself, maybe he really doesn't? Haha
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Fairchild Channel F  +   812d ago
Oh good! Then we should expect to hear ZERO crying from NT when the game tanks like we did with all the Heavenly Sword and Enslaved whining and crying.
wolokowoh  +   812d ago
I have to agree. Heavenly Sword had a long developer cycle and as a result was expensive as hell to make. They blamed their own dumb budgeting decisions on being exclusive when Heavenly Sword easily sold in the millions which for most smaller third parties is nothing short of amazing. If they would have made a sequel they could have built on upon the established fan base sold well over a million and would be starting to establish a much larger fan base. Instead of building on an established IP that sold millions they made another new IP. Going multiplatform didn't help Enslaved sell as well as they hoped and they blamed it on people not buying it. I can tell you why everyone didn't buy it. The gameplay is not done very well, the game is short, it isn't the best looking game even just comparing it to Heavenly Sword, and the only real thing it has going for it is a story that while good isn't the best and doesn't appeal to everyone. Furthermore, the name is horrible, it had poor marketing, and the demo they released isn't exactly the best part of the game to make into a demo.They're lucky it sold as much as it did.
Colonel_Dante  +   812d ago
He must be hurt that people think the new Dante looks gay and is lame... and he made the new Dante after his likeness...
Captain Qwark 9  +   812d ago
LMAO!!! developing games is as much a business as it is an art. when your company goes under becuase your games sell like shit you will care.
Nodoze  +   812d ago
There you have it folks. Notorious whiners Ninja Theory could care less if you buy this title.

I say don't. Let it languish at retail and it will be in the bargain bin in a month.

I am not a fan of Ninja Theory. They should focus all of their attention on Kung Fu Chaos 2. At least then I wont need to see EMO main characters and hear them bitch about the fan feedback.
madara0sama  +   812d ago
Haha yes! I loved Kung Fu Chaos. So much fun were had.
peowpeow  +   812d ago
That was developed by NT!?!?

I spent so much time playing the demo with my friend. It was one of the funnest games I've played
dorron  +   812d ago
Oh, yes, he cares. His pay and job depend on it...
Pinkamena_Diane_Pie  +   812d ago
With this kind of thinking, it's no wonder we see the crap that gets published today. O.o
nik666uk  +   812d ago
I bet your investors are really thrilled to hear that!!!
Snakefist30  +   812d ago
I dont think its going to sell over 9000!!!
izumo_lee  +   812d ago
So if this game does really poorly than there is no one to blame but Ninja Theory themselves. They dissed their own game Heavenly Sword for not selling well & blaming it on others.

These guys are so full of themselves it is unbelievable, it is almost as bad as Crytek boasting about graphics. There was so much potential for these guys but they blow it every single time.
mynameisEvil  +   812d ago
Ninja Theory reminds me of Uwe Boll. I mean, even Uew Boll came out not TOO long ago and said his movies were better than a lot of other movies from AAA-directors... which is total bullshit, of course.

The fact that people that make such mediocre products can act like they have the talent of Jesus ("nobodeh fu*kz widdeh Geeezusss") is preposterous.
Wolfbiker  +   812d ago
I must be the only one that thinks the new DmC great.

DmC4 was stale, although I would have preferred they just made a new IP, then a lot of these old school DmC fans would probably really want to play it.
Hicken  +   812d ago
Stale according to who? All the people who are saying they want that same stale formula instead of this new stuff?

Don't get me wrong; DmC(different from DMC, mind you) could very well turn out to be a good game. But it's hardly a DMC game when they've taken away so many of the things that made the franchise iconic. The action doesn't look the same- which means it will mostly likely not feel the same- the atmosphere of the world has changed, and new Dante doesn't give off any of the vibe that made fans love old Dante.

DMC has four games over about ten years' time, and despite following the same general formula, they've each got a different feel to em. This game follows none of the formula, and according to the developers, was made solely for themselves.

Why would I spend my money on a game that wasn't even made for me? Why would I reward a developer that quite literally spat in my face about a beloved franchise?
ziggurcat  +   812d ago
"Stale according to who? All the people who are saying they want that same stale formula instead of this new stuff?"

bingo.
VileAndVicious  +   812d ago
@Hicken
DMC4 was a little stale
(Were you really okay with the back tracking? The narrative that was never going anywhere?? The fact that it created even more questions instead of fleshing out the story? I wont even get started on Nero. The horrible heavy metal soundtrack that they decided to start using in DMC3?)

And Ill even play Devils advocate for you. Lets say everything was just fine with the series, perfect even. Are you suggesting that you should only wait until everything is old and outdated before you attempt anything new? Kind of like the COD franchise?

I mean personally Ill never fault a company for trying something new. Never have. The end result will be the same anyway. Either its good and enjoyable, or lackluster and everyone moves on and forgets about it...
(remember DMC2?)
IMO the game looks solid so far. Im willing to give it a shot.
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noctrnl13  +   807d ago
Thank you for having some sense. I've had the same argument with RE:6, Killzone, and MGS4 when that was coming out. Anytime a dev/series tries to something fresh every fanboy in the galaxy cries foul about how they're ruining their franchise and deviating from the "formula" that was already set forth.

I for one don't judge games simply because I don't like the way the new character looks, or because it's not exactly the same as the last iteration. Seriously the way you guys argue it sounds like you'd prefer COD.

Don't write the game off simply because it's different. Praise Ninja Theory for attempting to deviate and not just carbon copy a successful franchise, and praise Capcom for allowing them to do so and not stifling their creativity with pressuring them to create another DMC3.

I see nothing wrong with the game, no glaring game mechanics mistakes, no graphical issues, and from what I've seen a solid new spin on the lore of the series. If you want to play the old games well the old games are there. The few gamers who are okay with companies taking a leap here and there to find something new will gladly enjoy this game while you idiots don't.

Remember this, they said MGS4 would fail because it was too action-y, they said the Kingdom Hearts franchise would never take off because the premise was too childish, they said no one would go for Majora's Mask after the masterpiece of Ocarina of Time. Yes it's different but until you find another thing wrong with it than the fact that it has changed and evolved from your beloved "formula" don't whine about it.
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