Gamertag Radio writes: "The $99 Xbox with $15 monthly subscription is official. Here's how to redeem this offer at your local Microsoft Store."
360(15*24)+99=459(not including tax) 299(cost of 4gb kinect)+ ~99(2 12y xbl gold)=398 (not including tax) Hope the extra money is worth it.
Seems like a rip off. They didn't even give you the 250GB 360, instead they give you 4GB 360. And for $450?...oh Microsoft. I still think it's gonna be a huge hit in North America lol.
yeah it is a rip off but we better get used to this because I'm afraid this will be the pricing models for the next gen consoles. perhaps ms wants to try out if it really works. by this sony and ms could make powerful consoles and make them relatively cheap or at least pretend they are cheap just the way it is with smartphones.
it may be a rip off but it will sell well regardless because most people only think short term, but PS3 owners should rejoice. this can only drive the 360s market further in the direction of Kinect and casual, which eventually will lead to more people buying a PS3 for core/hardcore games and of course the plethora of fantastic exclusives. microsoft are making a BIG mistake with their core/hardcore audience by going in this direction. 3rd parties won't want to take any risks or waste substantial amounts of money on the casuals. it's all good. Microsoft can sell the to mums, dads and kids, while Sony can cater for the true gamer. both camps win
I alway's wondered why they have a 4gb than have a 250gb. Wouldn't it be better if the 4gb was like a 120gb cause 4gb is just asking you to buy the 250gb hard drive.
I disagree. Sure it costs you a bit more in the long run but the convenience of not having to slap down all the cash up front is certainly appealing to people on a limited budget, like students for example. I think this is a smart move by Microsoft and I wouldn't be surprised if we see this pricing model available as an option next gen as well. The difference in price over 2 years is pretty nominal. In my mind, consumer choice is rarely a bad thing.
To me it's not a good deal at all but I think what they are doing is aiming this at people who might want a 360 but having the cash up front is a problem for. I think there are definitely people out there who fall into that bracket and will go for it. Of course I never would simply because it's a bad deal in my eyes but I can appreciate that for some this will be an easy way of getting into Xbox gaming. BUT, here is the big thing for me. I'm pretty sure that there will be a new Xbox released within 2 years and whilst this subscription will carry over to a new console, how are these people supposed to get into the new Xbox experience when it arrives? I suppose based on what I said above these people wouldn't be buying the new Xbox anyway since up front cash is likely the only reason anyone would go for this deal and would likely still be an issue for many of the same people when the new Xbox comes out. In some ways this is definitely a clever move by Microsoft as there is probably a market out there for this kind of deal (if there isn't MS aren't going to lose anything with people not taking the deal up) but at the same time it's a bad deal for anyone that has the disposable income or saves up to just outright buy a 360 and a LIVE subscription.
Seem like the difference's the price we pay for almost any new game released. sounds like a try .
This could actually piss of people and hurt there reputation in the long run. What happens if they announce the release of the 720 to be release in 12 Months time and you have just bought into a 2 year contract you can't get out.
Nothing. The mainstream will just continue eating it up...the same way people line up to get an IPAD Day 1 even though they are armed with the knowledge that it will be out of date in the following year. You underestimate the stupidity of modern consumers.
But most people don't go out and buy every edition of the ipad they may do with the iphone. With the iphone people got caught into a 2 year contract and then missed out on the new edition 12 month later. This was quite common and i had quite a few friends that where pissed off when this happened. Most phone companies now offer both 12 month and 2 years now if you pay a little more money a month. Which is why it may sounds great at first causing them a lot of sales but in the long run it could hurt there reputation. As in my friends left the mobile company they with just because of it.
You're missing the entire point of this deal by using that comparison. This was never meant to be cheaper, this was meant to LOOK cheaper. It's the same "foot in the door" tactic employed by mortgage comps, used car salesmen, and more across the globe. Are you ever curious how much more you'll be paying for that new car over time instead of paying upfront? Let's not have a myopic view into thinking EVERYONE who decides to go after this deal is an idiot. It's simply a business deal you've seen employed time and time again on TV commercials that's beneficial to a certain group of people.
By the Gods, a man of logic!
Nicely done coolbeans.
***By the Gods, a man of logic!*** Says the one calling anyone who goes after this deal stupid, ignorant, uninformed, getting tricked and getting screwed. lol I do agree though. coolbeans is among the only two I see consistently make sense and use logic 100% of the time on this site. The other being beatdown.
It is still cheaper than using a credit card, they skip Visa/Master Card and collect directly on a lowered interest rate.
So I guess your against loans for cars and houses or buying anything with a credit card too since in the long run your paying more than just buying it outright.
Oh, lets add one more tidbit of math to the problem. A lot of people can't afford to throw down anywhere from $350 - $450 in one go, so what would they normally use??? CREDIT CARDS!!! Check out the credit card calculator from the US Federal Reserve website (google, i can't direct link) Go ahead and throw in whatever value you want in for the best deal you can get, and then throw in you your CC APR%. After it tells you how long it will take to pay off, you can actually enter how much you would pay a month. Throw in $15 and see how long it will take and how much interest has accrued. Its pretty amazing. Pay everything upfront if you can, or use a payment plan. DON'T USE CREDIT CARDS.
Smart move by Microsoft.
Not as smart as charging people for viewing ads, online play, Facebook, Youtube, and other free features that are free on every other device known to man. @Perjoss People buy XBL because they have no choice if they want to play the online portion of their games that they already paid $60 for. Can't play COD multi player on Xbox without paying big daddy Microsoft first to access that part of your game that you already paid $60 for. Keep telling yourself paying for twitter and access to Netflix is "worth it" if it helps you sleep at night.
If the Xbox 360 wasn't worth it, people would not buy it. If Xbox Live wasn't worth it, people wouldn't subscribe to it. But people do, so...
perjoss@ if i want to play online with my 360,i have too pay money and i did(my 3rd xbox just rrd), but that dont mean it was worth the money. Peace:-)
XBL is only bought as it is a necessary component to complete your Xbox experience or any game for that matter. Without Gold, you don't have online play, netflix, streaming etc.
Perjoss is absolutely right. 360 and Live Gold are worth the money if you want to pay for them. Although I think it is a fantastic service I simply chose not to pay for Live anymore because it ended up not being worth it to me. PSN for me as long as multiplayer is free.
I've never payed more than $40 a year for xbl. Last year I got that deal right off the dashboard from one of those ads your talking about. Having a party chat and being able to hear my friends clearly without having to listen to everyone else is great, plus there are alot of games where you can just select join party and you are put right in their game. Also there pretty good sales every week, which is the big reason why people pay $50 a year for playstation plus
Smart for MS, bad for consumers. Especially for ones who mistakenly buy into this deal but not understand the fine print.
I personally don't feel bad for the consumers..they don't even feel bad for themselves. Millions pay $30 a month to pay the mandatory data fee for their smartphones when many of them could have opted to just gt a regular phone that doesn't require an expensive data plan. Consumers bring this thing onto themselves.
Wow that much?
$450= £284 approx . A 360 4gb with kinect is selling for £250 in Game uk..then add the £70 2 years live on top, = £320 it's not a rip off at all. Ok you can shop around for cheaper version online, but compared to the high street, it's about right if not a better deal.
A sucker is born everyday.
When I first heard about this I thought it was going to be along the lines of $99 Xbox with 2 year XBL sub fee at the standard charge of roughly $60 per year. I always thought it would be smart for MS to parry this pricing with XBL and Sony doing something similar with PS Plus. But $15 dollars per month?!? Yeah that's not gonna cut it.
Why is everyone complaining? Does everyone pay for everything with cash? Isn't this just bypassing credit cards?
It's a low end 360, that's one real. A 4GB version? You can't do much with those things. And $14,99 a month for two years is a lot. It's a ripoff deal. Better to put the money aside a few months and save up for a real 360.
But MS sells a 4gb version so I don't get why the complaint. The 4gb version obviously sells otherwise why would MS have kept it available for several years? So you guys are saying that MS shouldn't be making money for financing? And you guys act like this is the only option. If you don't like the terms then buy the package if you want or add it to your own credit card and pay the interest there.
The people who are fooled by these deals aren't the smartest people. They see the cheap money charge and think it's a good deal. It isn't. You can't do much with 4GB. Dump Kinect and make it a 360 with a real hard drive at least.
Anyone who falls for this "deal" deserves to lose their money.
That "Extra Content" that had been rumored didn't come to light, apparently. Granted you can get the whole package cheaper on sale if you're bargin hunting (a LOT cheaper actually), but the cable/sports services that were rumored would have been a deal maker for some people (including myself). I don't have cable and if I could access specialized programming it might have been worth it. But now it isn't.
I hope nobody is fooled by this deal. Seems like something one of those rental stores would do. At least get a real 360 with a hard drive. If you can't afford one you really can't afford gaming.
Thats whats funny. Since the 4gb model is actualy just a flash drive in a hard drive case why dont they at least make it 8 or 16 gb? They limit the amount of $ they can make off of downloadable content. Most the XBLA games are creeping gigs. Flash memory is super cheap i see 8gb drives for $10 all the time.
Suckers and people with consumerism state of mind will eat it.. Esp. in the US.
I hope this fails as I don't want "contract" based consoles being sold. They could treat this like a cell phone if they wanted.
Don't be stupid. Buy a normal bundle and don't get ripped off by Microsoft.
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