Gematsu: "Microsoft will focus less on games and more on Xbox LIVE services at E3 next month, Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter was told during a visit to the company."
That's just what they DON'T need. They need some exclusives, seriously. They pay for "timed" exclusives all the time, which I don't understand when they could focus that money toward actual exclusive games. What's the point of an E3 press conference if you're focus isn't really on games?
Glad there's still Sony's and Nintendo's conferences to look forward to at least
Yeah, Sony already said they'd have plenty of games to show off which leaves Nintendo... I'm hoping they do a great show and give me a good reason to pick up the Wii U at launch. I really want to get into it, it's just I haven't quite been convinced yet.
"Said Michael Pachter" This alone makes the entire article null and void of factual information. On Actual Topic: I see a lot of people getting mad that MS is investing in interface, Kinect and arcade titles... they want more core titles which I can clearly understand, but their argument is "stop making apps/Kinect/arcade", which doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna get the core titles. I say continue making a strong grouping of apps/Kinect/arcade games, and bring the production of core titles up to the numbers of apps/Kinect/arcade titles. If MS quit the others and only made core titles, the brand would be weakened. I say keep doing what your doing, just make more core exclusives... Bring back games like Crimson Skies, put Rare to use and make a damned Killer Instinct (core gamers would love it), don't turn your core franchises into Kinect titles, keep them core and make new innovative titles for Kinect instead. At the end of the day, it's always best to game on all consoles, because then you're less concerned if one console isn't performing up to your standards.
@guitarded77 Pachter is probably the worst moron on the inductry right now, and all his opinions are crap but at the same time he's very well informed and has access to a lot of confidential info don't forget when he leaked the secretive Twistel Metal 2 years ago a week before E3
@BlindGuardian Even a broken clock is right once a day.
it pretty much makes sense. MS is obvioulsy wanting to promote the service now much more than the console itself. Yes they have the 360 and quite possibly the 720 around the corner but they are a software company at heart. They want to promote the service as a whole and how it will be available to the microsoft platforms like phone/tablet, pc and console. If they were to build up the service to the point of it being more like windows in a way (where they license the use of it to ANY company that wants to use it) then they will gain more ground as a content delivery system than a game platform. They are not just competing with the likes of nintendo and sony on games. They are competing with samsung and other companies that build these smart tv's with services in them. Perhaps ms is trying to be THE company to deliver those services to the tv makers instead of Samsung, vizio, etc doing it themselves. Many people forget that MS tried their hand at webtv years ago and it failed to catch on then. Now is a different generation and ripe for the picking when it comes to content delivery anywhere anytime.
They're looking at the general consumer and casual gaming market. They get that they wont have to worry about gamers. More so when they only have to shove out a COD or Halo to placate them. @Snookies12: The quality and type of game Sony will show has me more worried than whatever quantity. Sure they can get out another GOW but we're still waiting on Last Guardian.
thats the whole point though they are not trying to be a gaming console they are trying to be an entertainment hub. microsoft always had that ideology in mind since the beginning, tbh they used the hobby of "gaming" as front to build their fanbase. i remember when i had an xbox most of my friends spent more time using their xbox for other purposes than gaming such as netflix streaming, playing music, using t.v apps, etc. why do you think the xbox platform gets little to no games every year? because microsoft has already accomplished what they set out to do. so expect hardcore exclusives to dwindle even more. just a sad fact
I really am hoping your wrong. I am one of those consumers that was captured, or should I say captivated, by Microsofts' entrance into the gaming industry. (lets face it the original Xbox was pretty beast) Since then I have stayed loyal due to the amounts of money they seem to be willing to pour over things like 'timed exclusives.' (which I've always thought made up for the yearly service fee) Microsoft is a blood-thirsty "business" and I've actually always admired that part of them. But it seems MS has picked up on what Nintendo has done, and is realizing that 'gaming' doesn't necessary have to be part of the "master-plan." (if ya know what I mean) That is why I've always tried to buy as much as their exclusives as possible, cause hopefully they'll realize that gaming is THE compenent that is what keeping this seemingly invinsible industry going, and not the "entertainment" side. one can hope, right?
unfortunately, snookies, you're wrong. the core gamers want exclusives, but MS does not NEED exclusives. MS is perfectly happy offering a 200 dollar entertainment hub. They crush holiday sales and do better every year. Not to mention that they've done a good job of grabbing the majority of 3rd party sales by offering early DLC and a really strong online community. and lets face it, Halo, alone, will sell as much as any 3 ps3 exclusives combined this year...if not more. what your comment should be is that 360 owners WANT exclusives...but MS is proving that they clearly don't NEED them.
So why dont the core gamers buy a PS3 instead of holding on to jope the MS would release excksuives??? Thats right becuase core gamers are happy playing Skyrim, Batman 2, COD, Battlefield, Fall Out Vegas.... Why do people always use that same rant - 360 hardcore want mroe exlcusives but yet they still own a 360 and pay $60 a year to play online when the PS3 has 100's off exclusives, free online and Blurey. Dont give that crap about Americans being sheeps - that just an excuse that people use to make them selfes feel better about how this gen has turned out.
We need to get one major thing out of the way upfront, people who comment on forums are the minority not the majority. So when you hear cries about the lack of exclusives this isn't really the case. Look at all the comments about Call of Duty games yet it continues to be the top seller. I understand the need to invest in new IP's and I as a gamer hope they would. However I also see the risk of doing that and a company like Microsoft who lost its ass last generation on the original XBOX isn't about to make the same mistake twice. They will focus on what works and so far it seems their direction is working for them much better. The XBOX 360 continues to sell rather well for Microsoft. It's going on 7 years old now and the price drop to what it was when it was released back in 2005 is a far cry to how much more aggressive Sony has had to be. Sony also has more overhead costs by having more studios to support. Great as a gamer but not so great for share-holdders who are looking for returns. Personally I think Microsoft's E3 showing will again be rubbish. It's not aimed at me, it's aimed at shareholders. Microsoft doesn't know how to have a compelling showing at E3. Instead they come across as being awkward because you have people who sit in the office all day trying to connect (or is it Kinect?) with it's fanbase. That's hard to do when you're not listening to them all year. Nintendo really is the only one of the big 3 who's main interest is still gaming. Both Sony and Microsoft see the console as a placeholder now for other services. Sony gambled on bluray at the expense of existing customers. That cost them a major portion of their previous installment. Microsoft went from selling Live subscriptions to now wanting to amalgamate it with Windows Metro and using Kinect as a device to control its operating system and media services, not games. Nintendo is my main interest now at E3, the other two will be as predictable as usual.
A logical standpoint from a gamer, but with the sales Microsoft is getting, I doubt it matters to them. Microsoft has a history of doing whatever it takes to penetrate the market, so I don't see them changing up their Xbox strategy at the moment. Though one thing is clear. PS3 and Xbox have been moving in opposite directions since the generation began, and with all the people in the industry talking up the endangered species of the 3rd party exclusive, I really wonder what Microsoft is going to do with their next system, because Sony clearly has more ammo in the cache, and they wouldn't be where they are right now if they didn't start out with a 'handicap,'
sony WOULD have more "ammo in the cache" if they weren't a once powerful company that is now trending way down in market value. MS is worth 13 times as much as sony is, if they really wanted to, they could buy up dozens of third parties...which is what i see them doing in the next gen since they've shown that xbox is a very profitable brand. sony, on the other hand, is worth 1/5th of what it once was. and with japan facing a potential, but very real, economic catastrophe, AND with vita not doing well, sony could be in a lotta trouble. i can see them closing the doors on a at least a few of their first party devs. i'm sure a lot of people will disagree with this, but that's because they don't understand the world market.
I smell BS. What a great article to getting everyone heated up before E3.
Nope it's all straight front he horse's mouth. http://n4g.com/news/993041/...
Honesty this wouldn't surprise me. MS have opened a lot of studios recently and it seems like any exclusives they may have might be for their next console. Tbh though everything coming from MS seems to ve very low key. its strange they are normally chest pounding and generally being very annoying around this time of year. hardly anyone is talking about new hardware from MS (or Sony). anymore when six mo the ago we were all expecting it. I do wonder if both companies are downplaying (outright saying no new console at e3 in the case of ms) to throw people off the scent.
Agreed. The only xboxlive service that i want is MP for silver subscribers. its long overdue ya greedy cunts.
More non-gaming features for my console that I never asked for! Yipee!! Now charging me for online play is even MORE justified! /s Such a shame. I was hoping they would have gotten through all of that crap last year, but apparently they're going to go on about it working as a cable box and crap. I'm glad I got into PC gaming. Most of the exclusives series that I liked have gone sour on the 360 (COD-inspired Halo, Recycled Crackdown 2, etc) or multiplat (Dead Rising, Saints Row, etc) and I can play all of the multiplats on PC. The 360 was pretty awesome its first 2-3 years as far as exclusives go, but now the focus is Kinect and "services". It really is a shame. I miss the old ways of the 360.
Then in the end of the show they will bring out a new revolutionary Kinect title!
aw dam u jinx it
.... More and more, I'm wanting a Wii U and just going to sell my Xbox... only my friends on there keep me from doing so.
What they need is some more first party games. I like playing Halo, Gears, and DOA as much as the next guy but a little variety would be nice.
You mean like the hundreds of multiplatform titles? People act like they only use their PS3/360 for exclusive games. I don't care if I can't play certain titles others can, and if I do, I'll buy that platform. When I owned a PS3 and 360, 90% of my gaming time was spent with multiplatforms anyway.
So you still spent 90% of your time playing multiplats on PS3?
@John Kratos Nope. I only used my PS3 for exclusives. I played the shit out of Heavy Rain, LBP, Modnation Racers, etc but even then, most of my time gaming was spent on my 360 with multiplatforms. There's so many multiplatform titles that I still have many games I haven't even touched. Lately I've been playing The Witcher 2 and Trials Evo. Got Minecraft this week, Max Payne 3 next week, then Ghost Recon the week after. Then we have Skyrim DLC at E3, so by the time I finish all those games plus my backlog, I'll be back on Skyrim. Month or so later and it's Borderlands 2, Assassins Creed 3, then on to holiday titles. No matter if you choose to play 360 or PS3, you'll have plenty of games to play for the rest of the year. @Nitrowolf2 What's the point? Personal preference. PC has so many exclusive I'd LOVE to play, but you'll never convince me to play on PC because I can't stand PC gaming. Certain people can't stand the PS3/360 controller. It's not just the games that decide if a person purchases a certain platform. It's everything; controller, interface, features, games, etc.
I hate the multiplat excuse. Sure of course you can play that game on every console, but what's the point of owning that console when the other one has more to offer when it comes to games then? literally it's 50/50 for me on playstation 3 when it comes to playing exclusive/multi. Not coming in here to troll or anything, but I seriously think MS needs to invest in first party IP rather then times exclusives DLC and such. As a PS3 owner it makes me feel good knowing that Sony is supplying content that can't be found anywhere else, meaning that I made the right choice with buying a Playstation 3. I just don't see he point in owning a 360 at this point when they really don't have much first party IP that are hugely recognizable. Halo, gears, and Forza come to mind only, but that's cause they keep pumping those same titles. Wouldlove to see Alan Wake 2 from them, hell even Too Human 2 I wouldn't mind (as long as they fix what they did wrong) Hearing news like this though should be disappointing to any gamer. Simple fact, nearly all console/handheld owners out their bought the system for games, not for social networking, apps, or services. Though if you own both consoles though, it's a win/win no matter what. If it came simply down to games only and one console only had Multiplat while the other had them Plus exclusive. Only one of those system sounds more attractive then the other. I know the 360 has it's shares of exclusive, but for the most part that's how I feel about the console. I want to buy a 360, but I want MS to push for more first party titles.
People round here act like the ps3 has so many exclusive games when it just doesn't. Of course the 360 hardly has any can't deny that but in comparison to last gen.. when the Xbox had as many as the ps3 has now and the ps2 literally had one every week.. what a golden age that was! (of course a lot of that support was third party) I feel that the mass market sees that a lot of ps3 exclusives 'appear' to be quite niche and despite most being excellent its easy to see way so many fall for the big advertising behind gears/halo mixed with the fact Xbox runs 90% of all games released.
Yeah, I'm sorry, but the PS3 crowd really over hypes the list of exclusives and how amazing they are. To be honest, 80% of them, just like on the other two consoles, aren't really that great. I've owned plenty of them, but I wouldn't say they're better than many multiplatform games just because they're made by Sony. The majority of my gaming will be spent with multiplatform titles this year.
Have to agree with disc and arnon. Some of Sony's exclusives are great but compared to most multiplats games they are almost on par or not as great. Game like Skyrim, Dead Space, Bioshock, Fall Out, Battlefield, Batman, Saint Row, Boaderlands, AC, Red Dead Redemption, Dark Souls, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Metro.... show that one can live just fine with multi-plats.
I'm guessing they have all their other first party studios working on next gen games which is the only explanation they wouldn't have many exclusives to show. I'm sure they will have at least one or two new exclusives to show.
I doubt it. I think they are too busy pumping out Kinect games. I expect a few at E3.
Then why should gamers watch their conference?
yep, thats true
I feel like MS are trying to kill what gaming is all about, it's like they don't want to be in the game industry anymore but don't want to loose the audience which makes them a ton of money, so instead of starting fresh with a new product they are trying to change the gaming industry into something which they find easier to make money off. It's not just about going for the casuals now, it's seems to be about changing gaming for their own benefits. The sad part is people are actually falling for this and are still supporting them. They are trying to make it so gaming is about being a multimedia device and not a games console, making people think in the process that it's all about sales and how much the company makes.
boringgggggggg. show new exclusives.
Wow ms...just wow
MS monopoly is a long list. they make us dependent on them.
ONLY reason I have an Xbox now is halo and gears. If those die so do my live account.
Same here, I wish I could get my Halo fix elsewhere so I wouldn't have to put up with this.
Don't worry guys! They'll have Halo 4, Kinect, and Black Ops 2 timed exclusives to showcase! ------- Past two years, only Nintendo and Sony's conferences were really any good.
Microsoft's contract with Activision on timed exclusive DLC end this year. http://investor.activision.... That is unless they announce a renewed contract at E3.
I'm honestly starting to wonder where MS is going to go from here. Their past few E3's were pretty boring. A lot of multiplat games, their 3 franchise titles (Halo, Gears & Forza) but mostly dominated heavily by Kinect and them adding services like Facebook, ESPN, HBO Go, Netflix (yawn). I can guess with reasonable certainty that this E3 will be Black Ops 2, Halo 4, Forza Horizon, Kinect, Kinect, Kinect and their additional services they will be adding to their arsenal of already useless (at least to a gamer like myself) services. Personally I never use my 360(s) for anything but gaming. That's why I purchase gaming consoles, to game on them. If I want to watch tv I have Satellite. If I want Facebook, Twitter, etc, I have smart phones, tablets, laptops and PC's. I'm not into motion controls. I am an old school hardcore gamer that wants moderately challenging titles to play. MS, seriously, how much longer can you keep going with so few 1st party support for core games and relying so heavily on 3rd party multiplat titles? I have a feeling this is going to be MS's worst E3 yet. I hope I am wrong but unless they announce their "next" box I don't see how I could be.
This is the thing. MS are catching profits from catering to casuals. They also pimp live as a media service more so than a gaming on service. Fanboys may be happy that their beloved Xbox is making doe. But are you truly happy with 3-4 exclusives and third-party games? Great. I'd rather get 12-20 exclusives, third-party & media services. And not pay a sub. But that's me I guess. Sales suggest ill be in the minority - all hail casuals!
MS has to create momentum from the home entertainment front due to the lack of an internal Bluray drive consumers need. MS wants to be your media hub first. Games console second.
Thats why I have a dedicated XBMCUbntu system. Now thats a mediahub!
MS used to show exclusives at E3, and focus almost completely on hardcore gamers, they were ripped for it. A lot of gamers were saying Microsoft didn't belong in gaming, and that they didn't know anything about gaming. Well I guess MS heard you, their going after the casuals, since "gamers" dont want them.
And the award for "best spin" goes to............................ .(drumroll) Strikepackage Bravo!
not an 360 owner but i pray this is a joke.....
Dream on no april fools joke enjoy , plus your yearly sub to go up yay !!!
I was thinking the exact same thing. I mean I wish this wasn't true, but right now I'm not sure whether to laugh or facepalm. Let's hope this is the calm before the storm, so to speak. Something is telling me that ain't it though. hmmm...
I really don't care if MS isn't showing as many games, the 360's life cycle is winding down anyway. Next year there will be a new console so I'd rather have companies developing games for next gen. I do 90% of my gaming on PS3. I have the 360 for some exclusives and the multiplats that run better on it than the PS3.
"the 360's life cycle is winding down" Wait! Did i miss something? When did MS announced the nextBox?
Apparently the same time Microsoft had their E3 2012 conference. It's ok for everyone to speculate what will happen on a conference that hasn't happened but it's not ok to speculate on other rumors? Give me a break, this site is such a joke with you people. Everyone bashes Patcher, saying he is full of crap and always wrong, but the second he says something negative about the 360 the PS3 fans, foaming at the mouth, jump all over it and all of the sudden, Patchers is creditable.
Get ready. $100 yearly fee is coming.
Sweet I love it more interface stuff , although what is the point if this stuff will only be availible to the US =( And not to the rest of us , Hmm interesting that questionnaire did ask me what exactly I wanted to come in the Xbox-Live services etc.... Could Netflixs be be headed our way or more !!!!
Pathetic. And it's even more sad that xbox "gamers" are defending this. Keep on being sheep.
First, I haven't really seen anyone defending anything. Second, this is speculation from someone that told Patcher what to expect. I hope it's incorrect, but to comment as if it is true without having the conference makes everyone look stupid. Perhaps that is why you have one bubble?
And yet your defending it right now! Lmao
@ LOL_WUT. What am I defending? I have no idea what the show will entail, so how could I defend what I haven't seen. My point is wait until you see it and it's actually held (fact) before posting that it already happened. Anyone who makes up their mind on something without having all the facts is a moron.
And I dont think many 360 owners give a shit, because majority of people are playing cod? Id love to have use for my 360, other than gears or halo, which is why I even got one. Just because I do pretty much all my gaming on ps3, doesnt mean I wouldnt love for some exclusives to play on my 360 which just collects dust :/ step your game up for fuck sake ms , !
God, how boring!
Looks like I'll be skipping Microsoft E3 press conference. Why do we have to sit through another year of them showing kinect, unnecessary services & Xbox dashboard updates that are filled with pretty much ads. This is why I prefer PS3 over 360. If its a gaming console it should be focusing on games not paying for services and be happy about simple updates. They probably just going to show Halo 4, COD Black Ops 2, Forza Horizon, and MGS Rising. Another thing why is Don Mattrick always smiling, he look like he's about to rape somebody. Thats why I'll be watching Sony, EA, Ubisoft, & Nintendo E3 Press Conferences over Microsoft. For gaming not advertisements.
I had a feeling they were gonna do that.
This is going to be a boring e3 show from MS.
maybe im old school but I use my consoles for gaming ONLY no movies, no facebook , no photo storage etc. I use other tools for those things. I only care about the games offered nothing else.