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Submitted by lifesanrpg 412d ago | opinion piece

EA's product manager should shut up about Black Ops 2

GameZone's Matt Liebl writes, "Although his comments likely reflect what many of us are thinking, I think we are all even more tired of the fact that EA keeps yapping their trap about Activision. This goes back to the whole Battlefield 3 vs Modern Warfare 3 showdown that happened towards the end of last year. Look, Activision won. Regardless of whether or not you consider their game better or worse, the fact is it sold better...A LOT better than Battlefield 3." (Call of Duty: Black Ops 2, PC, PS3, Xbox 360)

badjournalism  +   412d ago
No one makes you read what they have to say either. Works both ways, Mr. "Journalist".
roadkillers  +   412d ago
Y U NO MAKE FUNNY COMMENTS

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ElementX  +   412d ago
Memes are lame
crXss  +   412d ago
seems like the author isn't really fond of competition. everyone i know who had mw2, black ops, and mw3 has gotten bf3. since activision doesn't really give two craps updating their game engine, it's only a matter of time 'till people jump ship.
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Pekolie  +   412d ago
No one makes you say things either but EA still did it, making themselves look like a jealous child who missed his chance for some COD pie.
SnotyTheRocket  +   412d ago
Battlefield 3 won. i sold MW3
Ser  +   412d ago
CoD pie must be really stale considering how old and outdated it is.

I love how up in arms everyone is getting just because one major company said a few nasty words about another major company. Do you people own stock or something? They're companies competing for the same playerbase. They're going to fight. Deal with it, ninnies.
Snookies12  +   412d ago
Yeah, no duh it won... Who the hell actually believed Battlefield 3 would sell more? Battlefield 3 was a wonderful game, and had a whole lot more depth than Modern Warfare 3 in terms of multiplayer. But you've gotta just face it, even if the game sucked ass, Call of Duty would still sell millions...
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Soldierone  +   412d ago
According to fans the latest one did indeed suck arse and sold millions.

I'm just crossing my fingers that BO2 takes its inspirations from BO and not MW3.
Pekolie  +   412d ago
Yeh we've been through this routine over and over again and people still believe the COD "rival" will do better. The only time it sort of happened is when halo reach outsold Blops during the first week of release.
Nimblest-Assassin  +   411d ago
If Battlefront 3 and/or Half Life 3 was announced, games people have been waiting a good 6 years for... Call of Duty would still sell more copies than both.

They buy it after getting hyped, then complain endlessly about the final product which is why I declare this everytime a new COD comes out since MW2...

https://encrypted-tbn0.goog...

COD sells stupidly well
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aPerson  +   412d ago
He mad.
SSKILLZ  +   412d ago
yup cause no matter how amazing battlefield looks and is, Cod will always outsell it.

i like BF and CoD so i got nothing to worry about,i just hope one day cod gets better graphic.

any way Zombie mode in the future FTW
crXss  +   412d ago
cod will always outsell bf..........? was your first system a 360/ps3 or something? lead changes happen all the time in business, especially in this industry.
PixL  +   412d ago
The whole sales game again and again. Why are people so much obsessed with it? They don't even have shares of companies they fight for.
mr_badhand  +   412d ago
Sales equal what the majority want. So yes sales do matter.

Now do sales equal quality? Well that's all personal opinion.
Creative-Enigma  +   412d ago
No it doesn't. Sells don't matter quality is what matter. Your telling me if one next gen console has more quality than the other you would rather pick that over the other console just because its doing better in the sales with no exclusive games really supporting it.
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Riggans42  +   412d ago
@creative-Enigma what are you talking about... consoles and exclusives?
mr_badhand  +   412d ago
@creative...

I have no idea where exclusives or consoles came from?
Sarobi  +   412d ago
He is using it consoles and exclusives as an example.
BattleTorn  +   412d ago
I think the gaming industry as a whole needs to evolve past thinking sales are more important than quality.
Look at other industry, such as music, and movies.

If sales are more important than quality, that would mean Titanic, Harry Potter, and Toy Story 3 would be some of the best movies of all time. And Justin Beiber, Maria Carey, and The Backstreet Boys would be some of the best artists of all time.

Ya see what I'm getting at?

It's time to realize that as gaming-enthusiast, Call of Duty is trash, and hurts our industry. The way it can improve so little, yet sell records amounts is disrespectful almost - we're letting them set a awfully low standard for our future.
GraveLord  +   412d ago
Looks like EA started their trolling early this year.
Megaton  +   412d ago
EA's mad cause they can't make shooters as good as Activision's mediocre copy/paste CoD games.
DarthJay  +   412d ago
You're completely right. They couldn't make one as good. They made one better. Well, DICE did. EA and Activision don't make games.
x800  +   412d ago
i know they are bringing new ideas to it but its still that same old COD game. bf3 sh*** on COD in every aspect.
COD games suck end of story.
GamerSciz  +   412d ago
I look at COD games like Apple products. People buy them because they are Apple..good or bad. ipad3...not much different from iPad2 and that's the truth. However, everyone is like, oh new Apple must get. CoD almost has a monopoly over gamers in the FPS genre but the monopoly is only there because of the brainwashed gamers. I can't name how many people say the game sucks but they bought it because there friends did...I mean I like to play games with friends to but not a game that sucks. I will save my money and wait for something else. It's sad really...
Oschino1907  +   412d ago
What's "sad" is your pompous arrgoant views and self entitlement. Get at least a sliver of unbiased opinions or views before attempting to speak for things you claim to have knowledge on. Again the fanboys ruin the games, its the "gamers" who keep them real and relevant.
GamerSciz  +   412d ago
Fanboys...gamers...yes there is a difference but when MW3 sells like it has...the majority of gamers are buying them.

Top five highest grossing video games over five days
1. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 ($775m)
2. Call of Duty: Black Ops ($650m)
3. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 ($550m)
4. Grand Theft Auto IV ($500m)
5. Halo 3 ($300m, seven days)
(Figures: various sources)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/t...

But when you look at the metacritic (if you care) then you see the scores not reflecting the sales. So based on those figures and scores one would think that gamers/fanboys aside, the majority buys the game but the majority doesn't like it. That goes against logic...

Metacritic: http://www.metacritic.com/g...
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BrutallyBlunt  +   412d ago
Maybe people keep buying Call of Duty games because they like them? Just like how millions keep buying Apple products because they like them. Apple makes things that are easy to use, there really is no argument about that. They have built an ecosystem that simply works with their devices.

Are they over-priced? I would say yes they are but the fact is people are willing to pay for it so why would they lower the price like we see in the blood-battle PC market?

As for COD they have created a formula that works. Gran Turismo has done that too as has the Halo franchise and so on. All 3 of those franchises have also done very well over the years with critics, and I'm not talking about Metacritic where any moron with a keyboard can vent.

Now my comment to the people at EA is also to shut-up. Make your own games and stop worrying so much about Call of Duty. It reeks of desperation. Yes the franchise controls the market but that's why you need to work harder. It's also ironic coming from a company such as EA to say take a year off. If only they could say the same thing about their own franchises, especially the sports games. I would love for them to take a year off, maybe games like Tiger Woods and Madden might be worth $60 again. How many Need For Speed games have we seen recently? Most games could benefit from multi-year development cycles but it's all about money and Activision has more than one development team working on call of Duty games. It's not like they are made in a year each year. Call of Duty games are actually on a 2 year cycle but with two teams working independently.
Yangus  +   412d ago
True,true,.....but this Black Ops 2 not Modern Warfare 3.....
I say MW best CoD series.

This Black Ops 2 2025?I don't think so....
Hufandpuf  +   412d ago
Campaign wise, mw3 was shit compared to black ops.
Zha1tan  +   412d ago
EA dont exactly have a shining library of games either,

they are more famous for taking great series and destroying them.

i.e the command and conquer series

and lets be honest Crysis 1 > Crysis 2

Battlefield 2 > Battlefield 3
fermcr  +   412d ago
Syndicate > Syndicate (2012)

Dragon Age > Dragon Age 2

Mass Effect 2 > Mass Effect 3

Sim City 4 > Sim City Societies

... among others.
Zha1tan  +   412d ago
At least Activision tries out new IPs and supports IPs even if they dont do well in sales.

i.e High Moons Transformers series with the upcoming Fall of cybertron.
JBSleek  +   412d ago
MW3 won easily. Sales speak all. As a inspiring finance and economics major sales is the way we look at whether not only something is good and the population want it but also how the market is shaping. No matter of personal feelings and vendetta for either game MW3 is better than BF3. No bias clearly numbers and the numbers show they like MW3 better. First thing I learned Statistics> personal feelings or stories.
Tenkay23  +   412d ago
"Poor Generic First Person Dudebro Shooters, you should all take a break, you're all exhausted and overdone."
M1chl  +   412d ago
I hate this, that EA wants to compete with CoD. I am mainly single player gamer and I really hate that BF compaing is more like CoD. Bad Company had an awesome campaign and it still stays on the top of my favourite FPS this gen. Bad Company 2 was kinda CoDish and my god BF3 campaign is more CoD than CoD itself. I hated BF3 campaign. Multiplayer was definitely grat, but when I don't have some buddy with game online, I don't play MP game on my own. So I decded to trade that game. I want a Bad Company 3 with Bad Company 1 like campaign. Please DICE and EA make it happend! Oh and before that, please Mirrors Edge 2, kthxbye...
violents  +   412d ago
I think its stupid that EA even opened their fat mouths about it because they are losing out in sales. However I didn't buy MW3 because i've bought the last few COD games and they are just copy/pasting the same shit with a new skin and I'm tired of paying for the same thing time and time again.

They may have won as far as sales are concerned but just because you sold more of them doesn't make it a better game, just the more popular choice. honestly its not a fair comparison because COD is arcade style action and BF is more simulator teambased gameplay.

COD caters to all the fast paced run and gun bust up in the place like rambo players and BF caters to the calculated strategic team players.
sriki007  +   412d ago
without ea,activision would be still be using the engine from cod3 and still making millions.
PIayStation  +   412d ago
In the end both of them shit on their community, so whats the point of trying to defend either of them.
Fire1792  +   412d ago
Good for Activision who won that lil fight, now all their fans are gonna get $60 expansion packs every 8 months or so, along with some pathetic DLC a fair amount (ha).
Honestly this guy needs shut up and just accept the gaming business for what it is, a nonstop challenge to create a bigger a better game (which is what EA did with BF3) or make a couple expansion packs for a game that has yet to greatly improve it;s own game engine (Activision)
mochachino  +   412d ago
I bought BF3, it's a good game MP wise but it also has a lot of problem (on PS3 at least) so EA should fix the weird aiming and hit detection before they start insulting the competition.

I still haven't been able to re-download my Back to Karkland dlc after the last update - it constantly just freezes my PS3 and also more game modes would be nice. Sometimes it's fun to play games other than TDM, Rush and Conquest. All the major FPS games have a huge variety of MP game types which BF3 doesn't have.
Valenka  +   411d ago
Who the hell is Matt Liebl and who or what gave him the go-ahead to speak for gamers in a general context? No one's forcing him to read what people have to say about Activision's work; furthermore, I quite frankly don't give a damn about the opinion of a nobody. Let EA say what they want. I love reading the bickering between Activision and EA.
Jason143  +   411d ago
Fact-cod is outdated
Fact-your still going to buy it for its mp
Im hoping medal of honor evens the field this year but face it, with all the drunk druggie talking losers on cod, its always going to sell. the cod players, majority, dont strike me as the type of people who really care what they are playing lol I cant stand more then 15 minutes of mp and about 1 minute of chat on cod but i still throw it in time to time to see how much worse it has gotten lol The demographic of players is comedy on cod titles. always makes for a quick laugh in a lobby. f-u and your mom and then the 40yr old guys mom telling him to get a job. good times
Archmagel  +   411d ago
Sure...it "won". I just wish EA would stop wasting time with such dribble, get to work with our DLC, and bring me my artillery.
Jihaad_cpt  +   411d ago
So much for journalism remaining neutral...

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