Nintendo president comments on what can be expected as launch titles for Wii U.
Hmm...most of us expected the Wii-U launch to be full of multiplat software...
Whats an evergreen title??
Wondering the same thing.
Games that sell over a long period of time.
They don't freeze in the winter
...and they look real nice in the spring and summer. :)
I'm guessing it's titles that Nintendo keeps updating with DLC. Nintendo was talking about having a ton about free DLC and how it contributes to the life of the game.
i thought he was talking about paid dlc though a few weeks back?
It's a game featuring the Frog from Evergreen http://www.youtube.com/watc... Don't you guys know anything <sigh>
An evergreen title is a title that sells well over a long period of time. The way that Wii Play, Wii Sports, Mario Kart DS/Wii, Brain Age, were all top sellers for several years.
"As we look back, when we launched the Nintendo 3DS, we failed to prepare a software lineup which could satisfy our consumers in addition to other factors, and the Nintendo 3DS could not initially increase the sales as we had originally expected. This is why the company needed to carry out such a drastic markdown measure by sacrificing the profitability. As a result, and supported by a strong software lineup, the Nintendo 3DS was able to regain momentum during the year-end sales season of 2011. We laid out such a drastic measure by understanding that regaining the momentum which had been once lost, is much harder than trying to create momentum from scratch. Without it, the Nintendo 3DS could not have realized positive results at the end of last year or the current sales pace in Japan. It did hurt our financial results, but it was a necessary measure. So, how will we be able to use this lesson for the Wii U" THAT, right there is the reason the VITA should NOT drop in price. I'm glad he's now using the 3DS and Wii's downsides and trying to make up for it on the Wii-U. The first and most simple issue they need to address is the graphical capabilities. It MUST to be better than what the current-gen console is capable of even if the difference meant a better frame-rate or a higher resolution. The other main issue is the online capabilities. They simply cannot ignore that particular feature, either they make a dedicated platform for it that is similar to the PSN/XBL or integrate 3rd Party like Steam/Origin etc. No doubt the top-franchise are always the wild cards that can get them out of their mess. But still, if they want to win the "core" (where the MOST money of console gaming is made) they need to address the all the consumers fears. I hope their upcoming E3 conference would blow us away.
The 360 and ps3 didn't have great launch titles. No one should expect the WiiU too. I remember the SNES having the best launch titles.
resistance was a good launch title
Title or title(s). And I disagree, Resistance was garbage.
To be honest, I kind of agree with you. Xbox360 for me (as a good game) had CoD2, with Perfect Dark being total crap. The wii had a GC port as its biggest game. And while I didn't get a ps3 at launch, I remember reading an egm article about the ps3s woes and there wasstop employee talking about how costumers were returning resistance in droves. Launches can be great, but they are more often not so.
just give me a true starfox 64 sequel anywhere in the systems life cycle and the wii u is a must buy. at least for me
I can smell the new CONSOLE smell soon very soon
Arent all launch titles crap PS2,Xbox1 PS3 360 Wii
I don't like sounds of this, and I am a HUGE Nintendo fan. I need to see a hell of a lot more than "proposals" at launch. By the time the WiiU launches, Nintendo will have had well over a year and a half (and that is assuming that they didn't even start working on the console until they announced it last year). If a company like Ubisoft can have AC3, Ghost Recon, and Rayman Legends available at launch, then Nintendo should be able to offer me something other than Chase Mii, and Pikmin 3. I do, however, like what Iwata said about built in software. I think that that is a great idea, but the problem with built in software is that I don't get to choose my games. I hope that I am wrong, but this sounds like another slow start.
I think they are trying to make the platform enticing to 3rd parties, and a crapload of 1st party software wouldn't help much in this regard. However, they also know they need to drive hardware sales themselves for the 3rd party software to sell, so an attractive, but not necessarily strong, 1st party lineup will need to be present. I think they will have this covered with a packaged in game, pikmin 3, and most importantly for sales, new super mario brothers. Basically, they appear set to launch wiiu how the 3ds should have: good 3rd party support and enough 1st party coverage to push the system without getting in the way of said 3rd party games. There was a quote from iwata or miyamoto, who said that their major regret was not having mario at the 3ds launch. If they had launched with mario, hardware would have been driven by this, which would have boosted software of 3rd parties and general 3rd party interest would have increased due to high hardware numbers, leading to further development of software. The exact opposite happened, which could only be cured by a price drop and patched up with those key games that should have been out closer to launch.
Great points! I guess my main problem is that I just don't believe that first party software, hurts 3rd party sales significantly. Sure, I wouldn't launch Mario Kart at the same time as the Sonic Racing game because they are too similar. However, everything else should be fair game. It sounds as if Mario will be present at launch, probably built in, which is fine because I would have purchased that game anyway. I still think that it is perfectly reasonable to hold Iwata and Miyamoto accountable for promises that have already been made. In short, Nintendo diluting/stretching out first party software, and filling in the gaps with 3rd party games, is not what I was hoping for.
I think Nintendo will be alright as long as they launch with at least one or two quality first party titles. Mario, Metroid, Zelda, Pikmen or something to draw people in right away. They will also need some 3rd party games that prove the Wii U is going to have that type of support. E3 is critical for Nintendo this year, I mean its obvious all of their studios are working on Wii U games, so its pretty much been years in the making. That should be enough time to get something decent out with the console.
Well, we already know Pikmin will be in the lineup. Then there's also whatever Retro studios is working on... V That would be great. They need to make it have good multiplayer though. And have it not take away from the SP at all...
We haven't heard from Metroid in a while, would be a perfect chance to show off an HD version of Metroid and introduce us to the new Nintendo Online Network. I could see it totally being their Halo.
Metroid would also be perfect for showing off the wiiu tablets potential functions and capabilities.
First let me explain to everyone what an evergreen title is: an evergreen title is a game that sells consistently throughout the lifetime of a console. The best examples of evergreen titles are Mario Kart and New Super Mario Bros. Those games sell millions every year, they don't really need to be marketed,and will consistently sell to the day the system is no longer produced. Now Nintendo wants to extend the life of these evergreen games. They know millions buy them, but what happens when they beat them. The game sits on a shelf. Nintendo doesn't want that to happen so they now want to include DLC to their evergreen games. For example, you played New Super Mario and beat level 9-9. The game is over. Now how does Nintendo get you to play it more, and still make a profit on it. They now produce DLC and include 5 new worlds, now you can play up to level 14-9. Well now what,you beat it again. Now Nintendo says, we are adding a Tanooki suit for you to play through the game with again etc. It makes their main games continue to be played even after the main game has been beaten. As for constantly rich and deep games, Nintendo can provide some, but they can't provide all. This is where 3rd parties must fill the gaps, which they haven't done on Nintendo platforms in ages. All those times Nintendo had droughts in games. That's where the 3rd parties were supposed to fill the voids.Nintendo know this and I think now they have put the pressure on 3rd parties and said, well we are giving you the platform you all asked for, now step up and make the games. The launch may not have 40 hardcore games being "rich" but if it has at least 1/2 core, there is something for everyone. Nintendo needs core players as much as casuals.....they need to know how to balance out both audiences. 3rd parties also must learn that as well. For every Rayman, you can make a Raving Rabbids game. But if you make 3 Raving Rabbid games and no Rayman, well that's an issue. They can't make 5 Guitar Heros and no bring any Assasins Creed game. That's what happened with Wii. The Wii-U seems to be fixing that with 3rd parties though. We see the core franchises being made from the start. This has to continue. And its already gearing up its online with Nintendo Network. No more friend codes, they now have personal accounts. DLC to extend the life of games, full digital distribution of retail games,online multiplayer and voice chat are all happening. The online will be comparable to other consoles and will most likely be free. That right there can turn the tide. But we will have to wait for E3 for that confirmation. But with games Dragon Quest 10, Pikmin, New Super Mario Bros Mii, Aliens, Batman, Assasins Creed 3, Rayman, Darksiders 2, Project Cars,Killer Freaks etc the launch lineup looks pretty "core" so far, even if some titles will be a few months old already.
Are you sure you're not LX General Kaos in disguise? :P Seriously though, great post. Sums up most of Nintendo's approach pretty nicely.
No I am not him......he worships Nintendo like its his God....which I think is rather funny personally. Anyway glad you liked my post....I know its rather long but so many people just assume things when it comes to Nintendo, especially on N4G and I just feel the urge to educate the masses lol !
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