Interim DICE CEO and Battlefield 3 executive producer Patrick Bach has weighed in on the debate surrounding the rumoured introduction of anti-used game measures for next-gen consoles.
Make your game's worth peoples money and support them constantly and then maybe people wouldn't be forced to sell them(Directed at every Developer).
Some folks on N4G may dislike Activision but at least they aren't speaking out against the used game market
So you guys support letting gamestop continue to ruin the game industry and make mass profits while they screw you in the butt? I mean come one, they are selling newer games with gamepasses for their standard "newer" used game price of $55 and not even saying shit about it. Therefore you get home and you have an extra $15 to play on a game pass. I agree games are boring these days and that needs to be fixed. But I have been waiting a long time to see gamestop go down for the anal rapping they give gamers for used games, be it buying (buying it from you for $5, selling it for $35..) or selling you a game that will end up costing more than a new one.
They are also selling used games that have been discontinued. Such as older ps2, Xbox and GC games. Not to mention current games that are not in production anymore due to low sales or low shipment. and not all used games are $55. I picked up Infinite Undiscovery and Magna Carta for 10 bux each and Gamestop. Yes Gamestop does have its drawbacks. Having them pay you 10 or 5 bux then turn around and sell it for 35 or 40 is f*'d up. But how about you open a business and counter them and give them some competition so they can change this. I remember Gamecrazy did just that...sadly they went under.
Gamestop doesn't give a fuck about gamers, the only people that make their business possible. They have turned into a major corporation that does ANYTHING to make money even if it harms their own customers. That's the problem I have with gamestop.
nobody is asking people to buy it from gamestop.. For someone like me i buy only 2 to 3 games every year. And my buddy buys 2 to 3. After we finish playing it we exchange it ourselves.. And the publishers get 15 bucks for the online pass.. Its win-win.
What business gives a f*c* about gamers? When it comes down to it, the bottom line, all businesses care about is money. I know its shocking and it may piss you off but that's how it is. Gamestop, sony, MS, Nintendo, Best Buy, Target, Walmart. They all care about money and making a profit.
Nvidia gives a fuck about gamers man, right along with the majority of pc hardware manufactures. Something that I haven't seen a lot of in any other gaming markets.
Well I can't speak for Nvidia or any PC manufacturer since im not a PC guy. But im sure their bottom line is $$$ too.
Of course. But they actually care about the consumers in the process, maybe its the fact that they have soo much competition but that's what it comes down to.
Killing off the used games market would start a war publishers / devs can't win.
Would most people stop playing games? nope.Gamers would pirate or buy new.
not every gamer is as weak minded as you set us out to seem. The only "gamers" that would do so would be the hardcore which at this point in gaming consists of far fewer numbers than the casuals that would simply find something else to spend their time and money on. Even those that only buy new would lessen the number of titles they bought. It's insane that pubs/devs think their profit will go up with this business model. Who in their right mind is going to spend $60-80 on a game that could turn out to be a turd and now you're stuck with it? Might happen once or twice but consumers will not continue to waste their hard earned cash.
no second hand sales = people will resort to piracy.. As simple as that. I think the current online pass thing works pretty well..
Im all for a used games block, as long as new game prices are dropped by 1/3.
Valve has already pretty much solved this problem. There are no used sales, and in their place there are substantial discounts on new and old games. Yeah, you aren't getting cash back on the games you've finished, but you're also spending less on new games not long after they've come out. If we could get the same kind of deals on console game sales then I think this problem will be far less damaging than it is today.
Well this would kill game rentals, so who would blindly pay $60 for a game that you can't sell back on eBay or trade-in? If you don't like it, you're stuck with a really expensive coaster.
I think if they cut out used games it would kill off a lot of smaller companies. Hear me out on this, I think smaller companies that lack the funding of huge AAA type companies will see there games go unsold. People aren't going to want to take a risk on a full priced game that they don't know anything about. A lot of people (myself included) will get into a franchise by purchasing the first game in a series used for cheap. That initial buy propels us to buy the next game in the series new. We think sequels and lack of original IP's are bad now, wait until companies are terrified to release anything close to a new IP because people will only want to buy "sure things". Blocking out used games would most likely backfire for the company that does it. I actually think this wont happen next generation because no company wants to take the risk first. If Microsoft were to block them and Nintendo and Sony didn't, its a huge advantage for Sony and Nintendo. I just don't see it happening, the industry wants it, but are afraid to actually pull the trigger. I'd expect more online passes and a heavier emphasis on multiplayer to properly finish a game, sort of like how Mass Effect 3 was.
A win for publishers who regain a miniscule audience of which is actually WILLING to buy the game full price. A loss for consumer rights and smaller publishers who get pushed aside because now Billy can only afford Call of Duty, instead of selling a game or two and also buying Indie Land 3.
Win for me, just got a job so i don't have to worry about how i'm going to get the new games. On top of that, i don't have to leave my home. OMG!!
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