Toshiba's bid was in the area of $100-million (U.S.) while Sony's offer was closer to $400-million. Warner Bros. has declined to comment on whether it was offered money to pick a side.
How when a story says anything remotely pro hd-dvd its lame
I don't see what is "pro", in regards to HD-DVD, about the notion that the BDA had to get a cheque book out to end the format wars. If the suggestion is that it makes them look desperate, then the sales of the Blu-Ray format - especially recently - and the infamous rumour, pretty much conceived as fact by close to everyone, that Toshiba/Microsoft had to buy Paramount's support washes that suggestion with a tidal wave.
Meus: The format wars arent "over". You sony fanboys are way ahead of yourselves. The COMPUTER industry is going HD-DVD... HD-DVD isnt going anywhere...
So how do you explain all the Blu-ray computers at CES?????
http://www.highdefdigest.co... "Warner Home Entertainment President Kevin Tsujihara says the studio took no pay-offs to exclusively back Blu-ray. In a post-announcement conference call, Tsujihara flatly denied rumors that studio had accepted anywhere from 250M to $500M in exchange for dropping its HD DVD format support. According to the exec, Warner's sole motivation in dropping its HD DVD format support was to ensure growth of the "category" and the long-term health of the industry."
lol @ .4 billion and not 400 million to make the number seem higher
u're free! u go buy HD DVDs, and we are going to buy BDs.
ARE YOU MENTALLY ILL?!?!? blu ray drives are going in everything, even apples are no installing them... the thing about computers is they can support both, but computer support isnt there for hddvd, blu rays are getting alot of attention in the computer world... blu ray has more capacity which is what people look for in the computer world...
What in the world says that the computer industry is going HDDVD? That sounds even more far fetched. If anything why wouldn't the "computer industry" as you call it want the larger storage medium? Please provide proof. Not just some article about a new HD-DVD pc drive either. I haven't seen any news about who's winning anything other than the movie industry.
Lol! You like that? That's what I call journalistic integrity, right there! ;)
yeah tell me about it! i'm still cracking up Benz - good one! Except the 0.4 kinda makes it look small =P I would also like to point out objectively that if Sony and Warner have both declined to comment - how would this source know it was $400 mill. Pure speculation if you ask me.
at this point its all speculation. regardless toshiba can'y point fingers they did it to paramount and they tried to do it to warner but sony had the bigger check book. If they had left things alone blu ray would have still won. warner bros and sony have denied payment was issued these guys say no comment but like i said no matter no fingers can be pointed
This is ridiculous.Warner Bros. ceo said no.If anybody would have won a so called bidding war it certainly would have been Bill Gates.400 million is like pocket change for this guy!Xbots and HD DVDead fanboys just have to get over the fact that a company actually chose the superior format instead of bribes.
buddy who submitted didnt quote the whole comment "To break the stalemate, analysts believe the rivals offered the studio large sums of cash to release DVDs exclusively in their respective formats. One report suggested Toshiba's bid was in the area of $100-million (U.S.) while Sony's offer was closer to $400-million. Warner Bros. has declined to comment on whether it was offered money to pick a side." "Analysts believe" makes this a rumor
Hey dude, watch the personal attacks. I'll change to rumour if you like. You're right. I submitted it as an article, however, because that's what it is. It's an article in one of Canada's largest national circulation newspapers... no skin off my back to change it though...
Why are stories about Sony paying off industry players "rumours", yet every single possible negative story about the Xbox 360, Microsoft or HD-DVD has 10-15 stories about every single "rumour" approved? This site stinks of Sony fanboys. EDIT: Where the FCUK are the admins on this site?
Exactly. Consider this story, in addition to being a valid story from a valid source that should definitely be approved (I even changed it to "rumour"!) as a social experiment on the fanboyism of N4G.
I'm with ya man...but I doubt this will get approved espcially when TANOD comes around...reporting like 5 times for one article
@wageslave, Because the Paramount/Dreamworks payoff was reported by respectable news, not some backwater hd-dvd fanboy blog. "But money talks: Paramount and DreamWorks Animation together will receive about $150 million in financial incentives for their commitment to HD DVD, according to two Viacom executives with knowledge of the deal but who asked not to be identified." http://www.nytimes.com/2007...
After the whole EGM thing, I'm not surprised by Sony
Sounds to me like HD-DVD paid the wrong people.
This site was up in arms about a supposed $100 million 'pay-off' of Paramount (supposedly it was Microsoft who paid them off - big surprise there, seems like everything is a Microsoft conspiracy theory pay-off these days). The hatred and vitriol you saw being spewed because of that pay-off was enormous. It was ALSO a rumour. ...surely this rumour should be reported as well, should it not?
When the HD-DVD camp was clear about paying Paramount\Dreamworks off. Warner was asked about it, they said no. Their financials will support that when it comes out. Or they would have lied to their investors. Which is a serious crime. Its not Fanboy BS. This site may have said anything about it. That doesn't matter, no one was harmed by it because we all knew Bluray was the winning format. Either way, I knew I was going to be seeing transformers with real audio on a bluray player. Xbots are pretending like its an issue, even IF warner did pay. When it is so clearly not. HD-DVD paid off the wrong people.
Micrsoft has been hit with over 10...(ARE YOU READY?) ANTI-TRUST LAWS Now you see why everyone believe that they are always up to no good? Let alone they blantantly copied the IPOD design with zune 2 They made internet explorer a application, so that Microsoft could try and get a internet browser monopoly/ Microsoft is trying to start a new DRM standard so that all Downloable movies with have to use microsoft tools. And Bill Gates stole the idea that was windows/Dos. MSFT denied 360 failure ratings and Disc scratches for how long? I am no Sony fanboy, but I sure as hell do not trust Microsoft.
You're obviously one of those "holier-than-thou", "I-can-do-no-wrong", elitest goody-two-shoes types (probably an Apple fan - they usually fit that bill). ...You'd never do well in business. Best get back to knitting yourself another pair of hemp pants since you "don't believe in clothing manufacturers" and throw another log in the fire since you "don't believe in big-business utility companies". Oh, wait - you're probably also a tree-hugging, pot-smoking hippy who'd never cut down a tree even if your own survival depended on it. Yeah... Sounds about right.
Dude I have a Master in business management from UNLV. So your observation is way off. So Even thought you say I am on a high pedistal you keep stating wrong information. Benz what ever makes you feel better you go for it. Since your analyzing me, Perhaps you defend your opinion even if its wrong to boost your self esteem? Move on and try to stick with the topic and refrain from personal insults MR. Internet-Tough-Guy.
Actually Bill Gates didn't steal anything. He bought the OS and then had the foresight to sell it for big money. Don't hate on Bill Gates because he bet on DOS being big and won.
If you are going to brag about having a MBA from UNLV you need to make sure that you at least spell correctly... the word is 'pedestal'
LOL, good! How much did M$ pay Rock*, Micromart, lawyers to defend rrod, scratched discs, and LIVE issues, Paramount, Dreamworks? Bots make me laugh.
"In addressing the oft-rumored "marketing compensation" paid to studios for switching high-def sides (aka payola), Tsujihara laughed and joked that he had heard these rumors too and was anxious to see such a check. "It's not a bidding war," he said. "It's all about what's best strategically for us." That said, he curiously didn't outright state that no payment had been received by Warner for dumping HD DVD. Not that it matters, I suppose. All's fair in love and home video." And the last line pretty much sums up my personal opinion of the format war. If the rumour is true, there is no way the BDA would have willingly just offered them this amount of money unless they felt that Toshiba and Microsoft were planning to offer Warner their own sum of cash; they just out bid them and finished it. Is that derogative, or desperate? Considering the superiority in sales Blu-Ray has had, it's somewhat a little bias to state it as such. Whereas if the losing format was seen as trying to buy support, then it's more logical to tag it as desperate but this action by the BDA - if true - was just a chess move to win the game before the rival thought of their next move.
So the story is this: Sony (and company) pay $500 Million to get a BlueRay exclusive studio. What is Meus' response? "If the rumour is true, there is no way the BDA would have willingly just offered them this amount of money unless they felt that Toshiba and Microsoft were planning to offer Warner their own sum of cash" Or; "Oh! Well, they did it sure, but only because the EVIL MICROSOFT was going to do it too! Sony only did it because MS was going to." And the Sony Apologists ROLL ON AND ON AND ON. Edit: Meus, No. You dont want a respose. Because you are a True Believer. Your crippling bias comes through in your comment above (that I highlighted).
I would honestly like an intelligent response from anyone regarding my opinion. I don't conform it as factual, but just my current opinion on the situation. If anyone agrees or disagree's, then I'd love to hear your opinions.
ok Meus, since Wageslave is a blantant fanboy that ignores all truth, The theory of BRDA actually making a counter attempt is some what valid but not true since the President denied of such bribes from either party. Counter Arguement: Warners biggest release of the year, "300" sold almost 3:1 on blu-ray. Warner's subsiarcy , New line Cinema would only bring out its big gun: Lord Of the Rings when the timing was right and that there was a single format. Blu-ray disc are selling more than HD DVD (Fact), and Warner is sitting on a mountain of gold ( lord of the rings) so obviously what would Warner do. Lord of the Rings Trilogy: Day 1 purchase and major reason alot of people will buy blu-ray players.