Leviathyn.com's Ron Hoffecker talks about the comments being made about the just unveiled PlayStation All-Stars calling it a rip-off. This isn't the first Super Smash-like game to release over the years. This sort of game is something that fans clamor for. Here's a look at some of the other "rip-offs".
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It's not like Nintendo originated all the concepts within Smash Brothers by themselves, in 1999 alone you also had Rakugaki Showtime and Powerstone released.
...and frankly I think some competition will force Nintendo to work a bit harder on the next SSB
btw, just because a game isn't original doesn't mean it's a complete write-off. I mean, Crash Team Racing copied a lot of elements from Mario Kart. But here's the thing: it's a really good racing game. It's fast-paced, there's some good track designs, the weapons are balanced: it's probably one the best racing games I've played. In comparison Mario Kart 64 comes across as a bit weak, or so I feel. Okay, yes, we should strive for originality, but innovation and quality are not automatically synonymous. A good idea may be executed poorly and if someone is going to try something else with that idea, why shouldn't they? Maybe this game will bring something new. Maybe it won't. Maybe it'll be an enjoyable experience, maybe even BETTER... and is that really so bad?
Finally, I'm getting pretty tired of people claiming Sony are totally unoriginal. For all their strengths, Nintendo launched the 3DS with a range of games that were almost entirely sequels. The games we're getting excited for from Nintendo are both Mario games. They'll be fun and interesting, but it's still a Mario game. Sony launched the Vita with Uncharted, yes, but we also had Escape Plan and Gravity Daze. Not to mention the fact we've had the likes of Vib-Ribbon, Patapon, Flower, Journey and LittleBigPlanet, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, Demon's Souls Heavy Rain, God of War.... all have been published by Sony or created by Sony's internal development teams
they created a lot of new stuff, ...if you care to look for it and not just arbitrarily designate it as ripoff bastards. Meanwhile others still surf on their old copy & paste bad habit....but i know...i shouldnt say that, it may offend some peoples.
At first glance it does look like a SSB rip-off, but so what? First off we don't know every detail about the game yet. There could a lot of things that isn't present in SSB that is in this game.
And even if it is a SSB rip off, so what? SSB is a good game and fans have been asking for a game like SSB that featured Sony characters for a long time. Why is it all of a sudden wrong? If anything people shouldn't be blaming Sony, but should be blaming fans for asking for it. You wanted a SSB game that featured Sony characters, you got it, if you don't like it then that's why you should be careful for what you wish for.
People should just be excited, wait for more gameplay and roster details to come out.
Using the logic that All-Stars Battle Royale is a "clone", then every single fighting game after SFII is a clone.
Only difference is SSB didn't start it.
I don't understand this mentality. But a genre can't evolve if only one developer is allowed to do it.
The game has been made. There's nothing these fanboys can do except whine now.
Don't set yourself up for disappointment. Most of these games are utter garbage, whether it's developed by Sony or not. Superbot Entertainment doesn't exactly have a track record. In fact, isn't this their first game?
The only way it will get hate is if it is over hyped and it's not fun. Sony falls short on fun a lot. Heck I didn't even like smash bro till the wii version. I'm a old school sf virtual fighter fan so if you don't see the difference game play wise then you wouldn't understand.
Yeah but a key componet to these games are that people have to love the characters and they must be fun in some manner to use and the game must require skill. Other wise expect mod nation like numbers instead of mariokart or smash bro numbers. Those games are ruthless and fun. Sony better show the damn ps4 at E3 no one cares about clones unless they are like power stone.
if everyone really gave a shit about the ps3 and its AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAA exclusives, they would just by a ps3
having a ps3 is not like being part of the masons, or owning a ferrari. they are cheap and affordable. time to grow up
Bitterness oozes from your comments. Try not to be so obvious next time.
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@scissor_runner, @tokugawa
The comments you see above are responses to the article and on topic. There's plenty of hate outside of N4G as well.
Don't just assume.
tokugawa - You're extremely bitter. I can just imagine your tears from my computer. You know, people *are* buying PS3's, otherwise the PS3 wouldn't be closing the gap. That shows that people actually give a sh*t about the PS3.
Maybe you should take your own advice and grow up.
scissor-runner: What imaginary hate? We already have fanboys denouncing the game already when we don't know much about it. The saddest thing is that it's being compared to SSB when there were games that came out before SSB's time.
Before, it was 'The PS3 has no games'. Now, it's 'Wah, wah, the PS3 has games!!1'
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But, yeah, most of the hate comes from the fact that it's on Sony's console--that, from a gamer's perspective, is blowing the competition out of the water now and has been doing so for... quite a while.
Just think back to when the 360 was coming out and you saw all that hate directed at, say, Tales of Vesperia and Losy Odyssey. Or the 3DS and Kid Icarus now. It's the same effect.
Can you please elaborate, or is that just another opinion stated as fact?
Strange, all I've been seeing is praises for Kid Icarus and I know I would love to play that game.
it will be called GOTY by all and then only end up selling 200,000 copies.
Oh wait you can't. Troll harder FinancialGamer...uuh...I mean Spam-Fritter.
It's undeserving to hate on the game at this stage but it's fair to be very cautious not to get overly hyped as the game does look unbelievably similar to Smash Bros and apparently the characters, unlike Nintendo's, don't feel as though they blend together...
the kids will go ape on this ...
Ka-me-ha-me-ha! oh wait that's another game...
People seem to go crazy because sony is doing it.
They think COD invented load outs.
They think Gears of War invented the cover system.
They think MS was the first to do controller-less gaming.
They think MS was the first to do online console gaming.
Also people were expecting a fps,tps, action or some normal genre not a mash up. the announcement made it sound like it was gonna be big
No one was expecting an FPS or TPS. Get out of here with that.
The announcement IS pretty big. This is the type of mash up fighting game PlayStation fans have been wanting FOR YEARS(therefore not kids).
noone was thinking of this as the major announcement.
kwietstorm then you wasnt expecting anything or you knew and you work for sony. lol that was a stupid thing to say.
DOESN'T MEAN they weren't expecting/wanting this game as well.
Your logic fails. I stand by what I said before.
lol i jusy watched thevideo on IGN. good god, do fanboys see things differently to non fanboys?? the last fighting game i bought was tekken tag ps2... and after watching the video, i am certain it will still be the last fighting game
both fps and this was being expected. The Battle Royal isn't a new rumor anyways.
I feel so sorry for kids who believe this, lol MS invented online gaming *HA! I laugh in your face*
Anyway, only kids care about who did what first. It's who does what best is what's important and I think Sony can really make an enjoyable game in a genre that very few games have had. Sometimes people are in the humour for something casual, competitive and fun and this game seems to tick those boxes.
if u call that gaming hahahahahahahahaha
online console gaming i remember playing my dreamcast online b4 the xbox came out
they said kinect was a revolution to hands free gameplay but the eyetoy did that way back before wii or kinect were created.
motion sensor will and forever be nintendo's creation since they started with that idea with the virtual boy console
Then for that matter i guess every FPS is a ripoff of wolfenstien 3d.
I swear so many idiots these days that need their brains beat up like a pinata-___-.
*Glad you remember wolfenstien. Though, Doom was the one, in my eyes, that popularize FPS genere.
The only ones complaining are the Nintendo guys and it's because they feel threatened. Plus, let's face it, Nintendo's fan base is a much younger audience who are going to react in a much more immature manner about this game.
TMNT Smash Up? or something with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
http://onimusha.wikia.com/w...
2012 = PS3 haz too many gaemz
That's pretty much it, ain't it? Today's arguments basically boil down to "OMG, a new game is coming out that I can't get on my not-so-subtle console of preference! I proclaim it teh failurz."
I'm a huge fan of Smash Bros. to the point that this games reveal has got me back on Brawl today, however I'm a fan of gaming first and I grew up, for the last 20 years of my life on Nintendo AND Sony franchises, so I see no problem here. Sony's not trying to compete with Nintendo. This is a game for PlayStation fans. Let them enjoy it.
Also lol It's not just the little Nintendo fan kiddies that are crying. Head over to NeoGAF and see the salt thats flowing over there despite the average age of the users on the board being 20-30. It's pathetic.
I want Snake.
Resistance 3 didn't break 1 million.
Heavy rain sold almost 2 million.
Infamous sold 2 million.
Infamous 2 only sold 1 million.
These were pretty hyped games, but didn't sell well enough IMO compared to other platform exclusives.
Forza, crackdown, alan wake, banjo kazooie, and Fable 3 come to mind.
(the logic of N4G)
Most 360 exclusives didn't penetrate the market this gen.
Your comment got disagrees because the people here KNOW that the majority of PS3 exclusives have legs, and in the long run sell rather well.
Keep living in your bubble kid. You have a poor understanding of logic, clearly.
If your comment has disagrees it does not in turn make any comments on any matter subsequent of that comment false as well.
That is an absurd and ignorant interpretation.
You have the mind of a child and should be regarded as a child from this day on.
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;tldr Hufandpuf is a child, remove his bubbles.
I mean during the hype of ps3 games they sell well then fall off.. Mario kart is at like 30 million, smash is way up there too. They keep selling because they are fun period no matter your opinion. If you don't like rubber banding in mariokart then you must suck.... It's a battle and a race! Get it... It's no wonder mod nation sucked listening to what you thought was fun did what for them?
But anyway, I'm not hating on this game, but I'm probably not gonna buy it either just because I'm not as used to Sony characters as much as Nintendo characters, and there's obviously a new Smash Bros. coming out for the Wii U and 3DS, gonna save the money for that one.
Besides we need to wait for more details to see how Battle Royale tries to differentiate itself from SSB.
Instead of screaming ripoff! clone! unoriginal! Which is only stating the obvious, we should be more concerned to see further details for it.
I'm not saying the game won't be fun, but as of right now, it doesn't even look like it takes advantage of the PS3, and the roster of characters released so far is not very impressive save for Kratos and Sweet Tooth.
If Sony wanted to present the game well, they should have included more iconic characters, not Fat Princess.
And the level with the Buzz quiz guy is ridiculously annoying and pointless. It's almost as if they put no thought into their roster, and had to include him. He's not appropriate at all for a fighting game. While you're fighting, a question pops up? What the hell is that all about? There are better ways of earning power-ups and specials than answering a trivia question while fighting. Another gripe I have is with the LBP level introduced thus far. Do we really need to see the LBP editor box above the map? There's no point to it other than to say in a very un-subtle manner, "Just in case you can't tell, this map is influenced by LBP."
The mashup between the Hydra from GOW and the Ratchet and Clank level doesn't work at all, either. They just don't mesh very well.
Very few of the Sony characters shown to be in the game thus far evoke the same level of nostalgic attachment as Nintendo characters in the SSB games.
I have a feeling the success of this game will be contingent upon the third party character lineup.
Edit: And if you guys think it's unfair to accuse Gameloft of ripping off games, have a look at Nova 3, one of their latest titles.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
What game does Nova 3 seem to be overly reminiscent of?
I can name two: Crysis 2, and Vanquish.
Gameloft is an iOS developer. They've been operating for a little more than 2 years.
Someone explain to me why Sony, who has all of these amazing studios with decades of experience, decided to let a 2 year old iOS developer with a history of ripping off other games handle their franchises? Why?
Clones tend to copy rather than bring some thing new to the table... Does it have a 2d adventure mode? Tight game play that makes you want to play the orinignal game? Do you even like the characters? Yeah none of that matters because you just need to take up for a company that is phoneing crap in now.
The controls are tight and responsive based on all the previews I've read on the game so thats not a problem at all.
most of the characters right off the bat are sony classics (kratos, parappa the rapper and, sly and sweet tooth) of course they are likable characters! thats not half of the characters yet. There will be characters that will to be interesting at all. In smash bros I didn't like every character in the game (young link, jiggly puff, pichu etc)
It might not have the same effect for for nintendo fans but for sony fans its just what we wanted
Without a health bar and no emphasis on hitting your opponent out of the ring, it's more like Power Stone than Super Smash Bros. :)
WHICH IS A GOOD THING!!! Getting a combo of the two best brawlers in history is the best thing they could have done!
Gameloft is known for blatantly copying other franchises to make mobile games.
And for a while, they've been let off the hook because their games aren't bad and the mobile market is in need of console-like games.
But this is different. The PS3 is a console, and Gameloft has no business ripping off SSB because a console platform called the Wii already exists to provide gamers with SSB.
Sony no doubt chose Gameloft to developer Battle Royale because in this case Sony's not interested in creating a different fighting game for its all-star roster. It wants the game to be exactly like SSB. And that's not ethical at all.
Additionally, Gameloft isn't a high pedigree studio. They make iOS games. And it shows with Battle Royale that they don't know how to take full advantage of the PS3.
I'm disappointed that Sony, with all its resources gave an ambitious project like this to a mediocre developer.
What are you talking about? MGS4, GT5, Resistance FOM, Motorstorm, LBP, GOW3 have all sold more than Killzone which you namedropped as one of only 2 PS3 successes.
Heavy Rain & inFamous passing 2 mil' wasn't great for new IPs? R3 passed a million over Christmas btw.
You mention Dark Souls too, but that's multiplat, and the PS3 version outsold the 360 one like 3:1. Go to vgchartz if you must.
Papertiger is right. Even the almighty Mass Effect barely passed 2 mil' a pop, let alone the Splinter Cell Convictions and Metros/Preys of the world. Why move the goal posts now just for Playstation All Stars?
...Right?