It's one of the most promising looking titles for the Wii, yet Grasshopper's No More Heroes appears to have flopped at retail in Japan.
*shakes head* why would anyone buy this console? Oh yeah, the promise of something better. Nintendo deserves every penny bilked from the hordes of casual followers suckered into that "vision". Ridiculous.
I have to say I felt sorry for those guys doing that launch event and having nobody show up.
I think the game looks interesting and, if I owned a Wii, I would give it a try.
why should anyone think it will be different this time? Every generation they come out saying this time will be different and it never is. Even when they sell alt of system third parties still can't make any money.
We'll see how it does in America and Europe. If it flops then the Wii fanboys can't say its because of tastes in Japan.
I said it before, and I'll say it again: This will be the best game that nobody plays of 2008.
Well for the sake of argument no Suda51 game sold. So flop is a relative term for his games. Going by his past games it sold nicely for just being released in Japan so far.
Wii software sales are increasing and doing very well. 3rd parties do have a few million sellers on the Wii.
I'll be buying No More Heros when it comes out and I'll be playing the heck out of it.
Oh and Madden people buy the Wii for it offers something the others can't and has great games that cannot be done on the other consoles. You guys like to focus on the short comings when the quality still outweights the bad.
you seem pretty even handed, and I have no beef w/ you at all, but I have to ask you to please take off your Wii politician hat and give a clear and subjective answer. You own all three systems right? Please tell me on average how much time you spend playing wii compared to the PS3 and XBox360? Is it even playing time among all three...do you play one more than the other? Is the Wii dominant over all other electronic gaming entertainment in your home and if so, what are you playing on it night after night, day after day? Just curious.
Actually as of right now it's pretty even play time with the PS3 and Wii. I've been playing GHIII on the Wii (finally getting use to Hard mode), Zack & Wiki, and Fire Emblem has been taking up a good chunck of the time. PS3 I keep wanting to play Uncharted again, and Everyday Shooter I'll usually play a few rounds on, and I'm trying to finish Folklore up. As for 360 I'm waiting on the new games to come out. That's me for the consoles as of right now.
edit: oh and yea I have no beef with you either I just get tired of Wii bashing so much because it really is a fun console and has games that gamers want to play (in my opinion of course ^.-)
everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I respect yours. The fact that you took the time to answer my question I give props. I guess my excitement level is metered so high, that my threshold for tolerating Wii games is simply non-existant. That's just me, but on a whole I wonder how many people feel the same and would like to have some demographic data on just who is buying this system and why. I mean if Nintendo can keep selling the way it is (Wii-wise) and the people are content on getting first party titles ever so often whilst third party devs get shafted, then it really doesn't matter what the system specs are. I just wonder how much longer this trend and pace can continue.
There's no point arguing with these guys... a lot of people have made up their mind that the Wii isn't hardcore enough... Arguing with them is like telling a religious person there is no God.
I completely agree with you though... 3rd parties are making money from Wii, and not just with mini games... resident evil 4 and resident evil umbrella chronicles have both done extremely well, because capcom put the effort in making the games work with the Wii strengths. Red steel even though it wasn't that good has passed the million mark. Guitar hero III also has passed the million mark and also sold more on Wii than on PS3. So anyone who thinks that 3rd parties aren't making money on Wii just don't want to see the truth.
I have a PS3 and a Wii, and I enjoy both consoles... I enjoy the Wii a little bit more because I feel like I'm getting a completely different experience than I was getting last gen. I'm not a nintendo fan boy, because the only nintendo console I've owned before the Wii was the N64.
What happened in Japan with No More Heroes is a big shame, but just to remind everyone, Sony and Microsoft software aren't selling that well in Japan either (they barely make top 20 lists). It seems the Japanese have different tastes in games now, and it's not just on Wii. I hope the game sells better in the west, and I definitely will pick this up...
People shouldn't be so narrow minded when it comes to consoles, otherwise they will just miss out on some really great games. I think the time for bashing the Wii is over, it has proven itself. It has done what nobody thought it would do, for longer than anyone thought possible, why? because it truly offers fun and unique gaming experiences. The Wii is a breath of fresh air for gamers, and it doesn't take anything away from the other systems.
Finally even if you don't like a console, don't buy it, but at the same time what is the point of bashing it... let people enjoy their systems. I always see people bashing the Wii on this site, and I bet a lot of these people don't have even have the system. I don't have a 360 but that doesn't automatically make it a bad system...
There are a lot of immature people on this site... to those people...
" then it really doesn't matter what the system specs are."
you sure want to be laughed @ dont you?
you have bashed the Wii mainly for its specs.
Even then you would bash it!
Ugh gamers never know what they want!
oh for sure. I don't think even Nintendo believes they can keep selling the Wii like it is now. Which is why they are keeping production at 1.8/month and not contracting out more factories to make more parts.
It is kind of upsetting that 3rd parties for the most part are getting the scraps in terms of sales. That has to deal with N64 and GC though. If you've been a Nintendo fan for the past Sony eras then you really only had Nintendo games to separate your console from the others. They just aren't use to having different games to buy lol.
laughed at for what? The main reason I haven't been interested in the Wii is system specs. My comment was basically saying that if people (like yourself) are willing to overlook the fact that the their mainly going to enjoy the "best of" Nintendo only (take Soul Calber 4 for ex.) then it doesn't matter, because people are just willing to (((wait))) for Nintendo to release the big guns. I'm not going to do it, but apparently people are willing to do so. That's why I would like to know the main demographic (age, game) of purchasing. If you're going to try and pick a flame fight at least be logical. Cry a river? Dude I would never cry for anything this trivial. You're silly. =]
you have been bashing me and calling me Nintendo fanboy while i'm one of the Few getting all 3 consoles.
Flame fight? look @ your first post you are trolling the Wii boards like hell.
So you aren't going to wait, is that a reason for to look down @ the Wii?
just look up your comments from mid-2007 you have bashed the hell out of it, trolling the boards and you ask me if I'm starting a flame fight?[ even insulting wii-owners for that matter ]
Who is the one mentioning my name in his post and claim that the Wii is only for 12 year old?
Again who is trying to flame fight?
trivial right? mister hypocrite.
Don't change your arguments because look @ your first comment here you tried bashing it, i would love to argue/have a debate with you in a normal way but don't go play innocent.
Its the Wii bashing for no good reason i'm against and you are being a part of it, I would not even care if the Wii loses but saying i'm shigi's right-hand man and crap like that isn't going to help anyone/anything.
So again i'm starting a Flame fight?
it flopped because they made stuff for the wrong demographic it just shows that japanese folks are not on the same line as America or EU for that matter.
it will sell better in America or Europe.
go cry a rivier.
This article is a joke, you know damn well that the japanese have a different taste for entertainment.
which is why Wii Sports, Wii Fit and SMG (great game) are the only ones selling. That's what happens when you go extreme casual... I'll buy this game though - I think Famitsu (or Play) gave it a great review.
i don't think an extremely casual gamer could finish mario galaxy. and if he did then i won't categorize him as casual. hell I'll embrace him and say"welcome to hardcore land".
only just come out man, jeeeeze, just wait it will out sell everything soonn, ok that was a joke,
but im sure it will sell ok, there are loads of wiis sold in japan
maybe it didn't sell so well cause the japanese think he's holding a light saber?
true killer_trap, but you don't need to be able to beat the game/collect all 120 stars to BUY the game. Maybe I assumed too much, but in my experience, I see a lot of girls, and adults who have very little interest in games like No More Heroes buying the Wii (they buy it primarily as a party/short-term amusement device). This is in contrast to the casual crowd that bought PS2s, because at least they were immature guys that could relate to the wealth of generic action/adventure games on the system. Slightly different with the Wii IMO.
don't worry...this game will be a good experience for all gamer because it's new and diffrent and well made...thanks suda 51
haha. yeah rite another sony and microsoft fanboy post. how many ps3 and xbox360 titles have flop in japan... too many to count... action games dont sell well in japan. no more heroes will sell plenty in u.s and europe
It's true that the Japanese have a different taste in games to the US and Europe so i understand that it will do better elsewhere. I dunno about America but in England there has been hardly any info about this game so i can't personally see a massive amount of sales for this game even though it looks awesome. Who knows, maybe when it is out advertisements will get it well known.
Many third parties are not bringing high quality games to the Wii to compete with Nintendo software. Most third party games on the Wii are garbage or at least mediocre at best. Weak ports with messy tacked on controls is not going to compete with Nintendo software in sales. What will compete with Nintendo software are games that are well crafted games built from the ground up that take advantage of the Wii's strength. I count that many games on the Wii with my fingers. Just look at the sales charts, the top selling games on the Wii are totally dominated by Nintendo. Which is understandable since they are good games. But if third parties want to be at the top of that chart they need to start making compelling software -- Make Nintendo-quality software as Ubisoft said.
There is only one very good third party game that hasn't sold well worldwide and that was Zack and Wiki. But it's understandable that it didn't sell well when it is a new IP, puzzle adventure game (which is not very popular), with no advertisement. I can't think of any other very GOOD third party game that didn't sell well on the Wii.
As for No More Heroes being a flop, let's wait and see how it does in western markets first, shall we?
Zhuk welcomes the news of the poor sales of No More Heroes as undoubtedly this will confirm an Xbox 360 version somewhere down the pipeline. The Xbox 360 version will be superior in every way and provide a true next generation experience that Only the Xbox 360 can provide, with the best graphics and gameplay combined with multiple award winning features that will put the Xbox 360 version of No More Heroes on top
Your an @$$...
Zhuk believes that his dad might come over tonight. Zhuk believes tonight might be the night he fondles his dad's genitalia.
Zhuk is a 36 year old man living in his mom's basement.
Zhuk, that might be your opinion, I won't say anything about them. I remain amused, and that's enough for me, thank you very much.
But others who get annoyed enough to flamme him personally... Even though you are nigh-anonymous, it doesn't mean you can be total asshats. Same goes to me as well.
you're a Zhuk sympathizer?
Hell, I'm as close to a Wii fan as one can be, to still retain a rather objective view of things. I aknowledge every system for their weaknesses and for their strenghts: does that make out what I am? As for Zhuk, I am merely amused by his comments, and I doubt strongly he's along with them with his full mind. Humour accounts do exist, people. I'd love to consider mine one as well, since I do use ad hominems a tad too often for normal people.
EDIT: For me to be against personal assaults doesn't mean I comply with what Zhuk has to say. That is all. Personal assaults are allowed if they are well thought out jibes against the message, not against the person behind the message.
So zhuk, you believe a xbox version will be better? in your dreams sucker! 3 reasons that won't happen:
1. The engine of no more heroes is simply too advanced for the poor spec of the xbox cooling system, so the chance of red ring of dead will be around 99,9%
2. It will be so overpriced because of the development costs
3. Dual analog will never be able to replace the advanced motion system. Poor xbox system - it doesn't even include motion control? what a pity
It does not surprise Dark Sniper that No More Heroes has No More Hope for being a true third party Wii seller.
Dark Sniper believes that with the advanced hardware technology of the PLAYSTATION® 3, Suda51 would have been able to develop this game to his full vision. Unfortunately, developers have been mislead into thinking there is money to be made on a garbage system that is nothing more than a Gamecube update with a repackaged Wavebird controller.
Fortunately, once Metal Gear Solid is finished, Hideo Kojima and Suda51 will form a collaborative effort to bring a sequel to Snatcher. Dark Sniper believes with Kojima's experience with the PLAYSTATION® 3 hardware, this game will more than likely be produced only on PS3.
Night4ll thinks that Dark Sniper has some issues he needs to deal with... Night4ll feels that N4G community will benefit well with the disappearance of Zhuk and Dark Sniper.
Finally Night4ll also believes that there is a cure for what ails Dark Sniper and it is very simple... He only needs to dislodge his head from his @$$ and things will be much clearer for him...
STOP REFERING TO YOURSELF IN THE THIRD PERSON!
Terry Armstrong doesn't understand what you mean by third person...
YOU NEVER SAY "I"!
Wii users do not need stupid shooters(all shooters are stupid by design).
If wii user would like to play stupid shooter he will play shooter on PC.
I think I died a little on the inside reading that.
its not a shooter :|
So we have a violent game where the player controls a nihilist guy with a lightsaber in a bloody mission to kill people and become the great assassin in the world. What I don't understand is why anybody could think this kind of game would ever be a big hit in Japan? If it is any good -- and it seems to be -- it would probably be a good seller in the US and perhaps Europe, but never in Japan. Different markets, different tastes.
NO MORE HEROES is censored in Europe and since AU plays PAL then I would be getting the AU version (if it too isnt censored).
Everyone must agree that its the blood splattering that made this game really cool
should of launched it worldwide simultaneously. I would of grabbed a copy. Will eventually when it gets to US.
What's funny is that No More Heroes is actually Suda51's BEST selling game to date, followed by Killer 7 and then some Samurai Champloo game.
Funny that indeed. I will be adding this to my library.
I am buying this game.
All credit to Suda 51, he's behind some of the best games ever made (Killer7), doesn't get the sales he deserves but carries on regardless.
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