Ade Hawkins: Much has been made regarding the rumoured power - or lack thereof - of the Wii U. The truth is, Nintendo can make those chips sing. It isn't about how many teraflops of data you chuck around, it's what you do with them. The Vita is supposedly far more powerful than the 3DS, but it's soulless (with tiddly analogue sticks). So don't worry about whether Wii U has an outdated GPU or 1GB RAM. Worry about how amazing Super Mario Galaxy 3 will look in HD, and the added dimension that controller will provide.
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This time its even worse for sony
I think Monster hunter & COD will decide the fate of the Vita.
Like I said before nobody gives Sony a chance the Vita has hardly been out and people have already deemed it as a failure. How long were people saying the ps3 has no games? Even when Sony was racking up the great exclusives people were saying that. Where are they now? Yeah their nowhere to be seen.
Give the VITA a chance and these same people talking crap about the vita will be gone...
Trolling for hits while they can is what it is.
That's why the Vita (and the PSP before it) is getting tons and tons of ports, but even a large amount of the ones that are not direct ports, like Golden Abyss, are still basically just an emulation of games that have already come out on console.
There's still hope, though. It's very early and there are some VERY promising games on the horizon.
As it stands, the Vita is doing an excellent job of being what it's supposed to be. All this nonsense about it losing steam or needing more games is pretty silly in the face of the fact that it's STILL got one of the largest libraries a system has ever had at this point in its life. Even if you only look at ports, the 3DS didn't have as many at this point; what was there, besides SFIV? I wasn't a member of the site, but I DID use it regularly at work- GameStop- and I simply do not recall this many articles about the 3DS at the same point in its life.
Though I wasn't trying to compare the two, to tell the truth. I didn't even mention the 3DS.
And I don't really see how it would be a failure. One of the most anticipated games on the system (Gravity Rush) is a game that does not adhere to that aesthetic.
That is exactly what Nintendo has been doing since the first GameBoy, emulating console gaming on handheld devices.
That's what the D-pad, face buttons, shoulder buttons and analog sticks on both Sony and Nintendo devices are for, otherwise all handheld games would be like iPhone games.
Just because the PS Vita is capable of playing ports of PS3 games, doesn't mean that's all it does.
There are several unique games for download and on retail that use the touchscreen in unique ways, along with motion and camera. None of which can be done on a PS3.
it's really a shame to see that kind of stupid logic for a gamer.
As long as Nintendo has Mario and Pokemon they will dominate the charts.
I know that its hard to create a game or character that rivals Mario but Sony should bring all of its top studios together and make them focus on a game for as long as the need to get this.
LBP has potential but Sack Boy is not iconic enough and has no personalty - he can be anyone which is where Sony went wrong with LBP.
You are talking like that, as if Mario has any personality. What personality does Mario have? A plumber saving a princess - that's a great personality indeed /s.
Guess it's hard when you have 3 new games worth playing on a system you payed 250-300(not counting storage) for. That can make you very sensitive about reality. Yeah I payed 250 too with the same experience. Hope sony gives you 20 games to play after they are forced to price drop sony fans.
My point is that people calling 3ds "not hardcore" are just feeling insecure about their purchase.
NOW I need to step in for the VITA.
It is almost as if people are ready to burn in effigy something they think is monster, but is actually a character that has a heart of gold. (If I where to make an analogy in that illustrative tone)
If I could give people that only see the 3DS side of things the low-entropy model sales pitch on the VITA, it would be that the VITA is a "gamers device". I love playing the games it has (Katamari, P3P, Ragnarok Odyssey, etc). I do not need to stand-up for the device. Those that own a VITA are well aware of the substantial software experiences that are exclusive to the VITA.
The whole business of comparing 3DS and VITA in terms of sales numbers is actually logical. One can use empirical evidence (from sales charts) to see how the 3DS is doing, project those sales and speculate further. TOTALLY FAIR.
... But saying the games on the 3DS have been, are and always will be better than the games on the VITA is dealing "definite's" in a very silly manner; games can be (and in various cases are) a subjective form of entertainment and art.
So, yeah, VITA is cool. Feels good.
I do gotta agree nothing ground breaking yet...but pushed out some worthy titles. Kid icarus, I have not played but it looks pretty good...
I don't own a 3DS yet just a Vita but I play my friends 3DS quite a bit.
Bottom line Nintendo is all about keeping their old flag ship titles fresh and releasing them over all their different consoles and handhelds. That is just how they are I don't see it ever changing to much.
There is also a hefty collection of downloadable games and demos, so that helps as well.
Back when it was first released I viewed it as an investment when I heard they were giving us a new Paper Mario RPG and a new Luigi's Mansion (two franchises I really love). So bought one and am currently waiting for those to release.
As for games I'm itching to get now, I want to get Tales of the Abyss 3D (as I've yet to play that game and I want to support it by buying it new) and Tetris Axis because, well, I'm a sucker for Tetris. I'm considering the Pac-man/Galaga game as well, but I want to try it first.
How exactly games that you mention are groundbreaking. Please explain.
edit: I know, the only thing that made 3ds unique is that it has 3d... and everyone agrees that its shit and the games are better with it turned off. Nintendo are the laziest and most out of touch company, they haven't even made a new franchise since pikmin.
Seems like Nintendo's on the decline when it comes to the core gamer audience (excluding casuals and Nintendo fanboys who forgot to take off their pre-Iwata rose colored glasses off).
There is absolutely nothing groundbreaking about regurgitated ips on the 3ds so stop it. You know whats groundbreaking? Console graphics and controls on a handheld which the vita has. Also the ability to play console like mp games on a handheld like the vita has. Now tell me sir whars groundbreaking about the software on the 3ds so i can laugh harder.
Trust me ppl arent buying the vita bcus of the software since it has good offerings in a relatively short period of time. Its just like the ps3 childrrn couldnt afford it just like they cant afford the vita but their parents will buy them a 3ds since its cheaper. So lets just stop it.
you forget that the 3ds has 3d... something the vita does not. ds had a touch screen... something psp did not. back then psp lovers are said who needs touch screen, well the vita incorporates it now.
try not to troll so hard, before i let reality smack you in the face
Monster Hunter 3G doesn't even have online play.
That is a cultural and regional thing to do with Japan, Not Nintendo or MH.
The psp ones didn't have online either.
Furthermore, online can potentially be added now that the 3ds will allow game patching and updates with its newest Firmware update.
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vita has nice specs, buy lacks the killer apps and it seems Sony doesn't have a habit of producing quality first party games on their handhelds.
Vague generalizations FTW.
so yeah it's only been out 3 months, only 3 years and 9 months to go.
This gen is really the stupidest ever. I don't think you even need an I.Q. anymore to play a game. And least the people of earlier gens had some type of sense or personality. But now it's like i am listening to 5 year olds talk. Suddenly pieces of plastic and metal have 'souls' now. Even as a metaphor that is stupid. Does my TV have a soul too?I watch that for entertainment so can it be 'soulless too'. What garbage.
Nintendo has yet again proven that you don't need high tech, useless features to have a great handheld. All you need is great,fun, imaginative software and support.
you speak of gimmicks but Vita has its own gimmicks too. High priced flashy gimmicks at that. You also scream of remakes and ports but the Vita also sports these same ports and remakes.
"but people complain when Sony charges almost the same amount or even less for game that are neither remakes or ports."
Uh ooooh, you think there might be a CONSPIRACY against Sony?? *cue scary music*
Have YOU had fun with sticks, rocks and a dirt yard more than the 3ds? Because if you have then more power to you.
All i can tell you is that i have had more fun on my 3ds than any other handheld so i don't know what logic you are referring too because that's not my logic.
This article was totally written to bash Sony. Or to get hits. Both devices are great, and will have lots of excellent software.
Its like a bizarro hulk huh?
As for smartphones and iPads, I have both, and gaming on them, while still cool, can't compare with real controls.
Lufia for DS was a reimagined remake of the my favourite SNES game, Lufia II. Only it's soul was viciously torn from it, and the charm sucked from it.
-Power not everything-
Not much and I'm not disagreeing with you on this point. Just clarifying. ^_^;
Is consoles need to be fun and exciting and when it comes to handhelds Nintendo have that nailed down pretty well.
When the original Xbox came out people still preferred the PS2 because it had games tons of them and it was fun to play.
But its not always about power, but when it comes to home consoles Sony and Microsoft aren't gonna back down anytime soon on making something more like the Wii it just wouldnt make sense.
For a handheld though again Sony have brought out a powerful handheld but its not grabbing the appeal because its aimed at more of the techy people that love high end hardware. The sort of gamers that love handhelds want something quick and easy to pick up with a fun selection of games which arent just ports.
Having said that when the DS Lite was out vs the PSP I preferred the DS Lite it was just far better to game on.
I have the PS Vita but I am losing the appeal I wont sell it though i will keep it because its a great gadget :-)
ive been playing the vita more than i thought. really because of lumines and the fact that i never owned a psp, so there is this huge library for me to play.
also cant wait for sound shapes and gravity daze
Its not supposedly when it actually is hardware wise.
Seriously, no one on this website is capable of maturity or the acceptance of different opinions, are they.
Agreed.
@pop Funny considering that little lecture you gave me, because you falsely assumed i believe that nintendo doesn't make good games.
You were really accepting of a differing opinion that day. Actually you were in rabid nintendo defender mode.
I guess you only want mature discussions or differing opinions when it agrees with yours. Why shouldn't we call bullshit, when we deem it as such, and hypocrites as well.
If your a console fanboy, fine be open about it. But don't turn around later and act like a neutral gamer that wants us to respect others opinions, when you don't even practice what you preach.
To simply say "I like Nintendo games" is usually enough to incite some kind of an argument from people in this community. But if I defend myself or my reasoning for enjoying said products, according to your logic I'm apparently I'm a fanboy who cannot accept a difference of opinion.
Oh, and by the way, I never said anything about being above anyone in the original post through sarcasm. Which you completely missed.
Strange thing is, you never ever see them posting anything positive about those consoles in other threads.
Sony have made the same mistakes with the VITA that they made with the PSP. They focused on power over innovation. Now, that might work against a chump like M$, but when you man up against the Handheld king, you better bring your A-Game. I mean, cheap affordable hardware, and a catalogue of games designed for your handheld that can't be played or replicated anywhere else. The Vita is just a portable PS3. The market want unique experiences to the device not scaled down ports.
More shovelware!!!
The market (sony/psp market) wanted dual analog sticks and full AAA games that werent dumbed down to fit a portable system.
In my eyes, Sony gave the consumer and the developers (whom they consulted with on the design) EXACTLY what we/they asked for.
The 1st handheld with dual analog sticks and rear touch screen isnt innovation?
Uncharted GA isnt even possible on the psp or 3ds.
So what r u talking about?!!?
Way to keep it real! ... real full of shit maybe.
"Droid" control? ... ur name says it all. Leave ur opinions to real gamers n stick to ur app gaming ... but let me guess, u think mobile gaming IS innovation right?
@ financial: Failing? Thats a matter of opinion. I didnt know 250,000 units a month (3M yr) is considered failure.
Wrong again ... the hardcore gamers ARE interested, its the casuals who r too cheap to purchase a quality product (unless it says apple, then its ok to overpay for overrated electronics , and if it did theyd be sold out everywhere) and arent showing interest.
Btw, check apples stocks ... theyre dropping at a steady rate but nobodys mentioning that! ... i guess "the market doesnt believe its worth it" either?
People (like u) said the same thing about the ps3 when it came out, and now look at it.
I dont care who buys it, i have one and it was worth every penny.
I have a Vita.
You do the tense-based math.
Calling all Trolls!
Groundbreaking lets talk console graphics on the go and console like
Console like controls, aswell as console like mp games on a handheld. That is groundbreaking and the competition cant offer that even if they tried. People dont be mad that just like the ps3 at launch you either couldnt afford it or mommy and daddy wont buy it fot you bcus its too expensive.
Why would we waste our time reading the article. If something looks like sh*t and smells like sh*t it's likely shit.