The format war seems to be settling on whether or not Blu-ray or HD-DVD is the choice for the upcoming years. But what about an Xbox that plays Blu-ray movies?
Consumers didn't "demand" HD-DVD or Blu-Ray PERIOD...but Sony was the one who forced the issue. If someone REALLY wants a Blu-Ray player, I'm sure they'll buy a standalone or a PS3...but MS would be foolish to fall into that trap. By the time this format war is OFFICIALLY over, MS will have announced their next console, and will no doubt have a new, non-DVD9 solution locked up for their software distribution. Meanwhile, Sony is married to Blu-Ray for however long they ride the PS3 wave...even if nobody cares about Blu-Ray anymore. MS made the right decision in sticking with DVD this gen, and launching a year early. I'd bet their next console will use a combo drive, which their current partner Toshiba (with Samsung), just HAPPENS to manufacture. That, or they'll have a completely new medium that we've not even heard of yet ; in 3-4 years, we're likely to have HD disc capacities of 200GB or more as the NORM, and at an affordable price to boot.
Are you saying there was no demand for the HD-DVD add-on? How many of those did Microsoft sell to 360 owners? There very well could be demand for a Blu-ray add-on.
Ignore CNIVEK he's still in shock from HD-DVD's death. Leave him be for awhile, at least till he regain himself.
If there was a demand for the HD-DVD Add on then there will definitely a demand for a Blu-Ray add on since it has more support from studios. Although I don't think MS will get one until it can cost under $200.
Microsoft fans always get owned..They buy cheap hardware and they expect it to work?? ..lol..Sony given us everything right out the box from the start.. The best quality hardware, games, and many awesome features...They don't screw us in the end like Microsoft.Always trying to force people to buy add on and pay for their online services.. And to make it worst it does not even work!! All the HDDVD add on supporters got butt raped for their money..I remember the time they told me Blu-ray is Sony format and it will fail, and now it isn't because its a winner of the format war.... In the end Sony will get big money from Microsoft get over it..
when they first came out with br and hd dvd microsoft said that they are supporting hd dvd but if br win it's no big deal they will just start using br. what people don't understand is that sony doesn't own %100 of br.they own a bigger % then every one else but it's below %50 because they had a lot of other companies that invested it it to and they own a part of br,not as big as sony but they own some.
YES they would. why? because like all you 360ers say......... MSFT is all about choice. LOL. it makes me laugh everytime.
Is Sony all about choice Montoya ? LOL it makes me laugh everytime
NOPE/YES Sony is about getting it done right the first time w/ their HARWARE and about choice w/ SOFTWARE. look GT5 - Racing FF13s/WKS - RPGs God Of War 3- action LBP- Platformer Infamous- Sandbox Killzone 2- FPS MGS4- stealth action all in 1st party 08 all exclusive. choice. I`d say so.
in 2008, it won`t be hard to tell the "brainwashed bots" how it is. seeing is believing. and weather they admit it or not, they`ve seen and they believe. @leathersoup is that gonna be the "new thing" you clowns talk about. get some "real life" acheivements, get some $$$ and see how good things can be. instead of being stuck w/DVD-7 and now "r.i.p" HD-DVD. Play B3yond.
all of them games that montoya mentioned MAKE ME CREAM!
If only Sony had given you the choice not to install Rootkits on your PC....
Or the choice to downgrade from Vista
if the consumers demand it, MS will add blu-ray, garrr......did they sure bet on the wrong horse
Aaahh HELL NO!!!. M$ will NEVER admit they were wrong, or in this case, that they were stealing from you BABOONS...AHAAHHaHa
Where have you been all this time?
W 3 L C O M 3 C H A N G 3
it`s is. it`s time. we`ve been saying all of this for months and got ignores/-bubbles for it. We said - 1. Hd-Dvd has no chance. Right. 2. Ps3 games of 2008 are/will be unbelieveable. Right. 3. Ps3 will start outselling 360 world wide. Right. Mart/POG/Zhuk/the brainwashed said... 1. Mgs4 will be on 360. Wrong 2. Bluray will die. Wrong. 3. FF13s will be on 360. Wrong. 4. Multiplat game will be better on 360 forever. Wrong. 5. 360 will always outsell the ps3. Wrong. funny, funny stuff. I don`t know about you, but i`m FEELing pretty good lately. play b3yond, maddens and all. @maddens(below) LOL. En Vogue is dope and fully support ps3. lol.
those FFXIII and MGS4 rumours now are like Comedy Gold!!! PS3 says:
Funny Pic.... Im getting dressed arent I?? I gotta use that one...
I dont demand blu-ray, Its beat. my upconver player is good enough for me. I dont sit 3 feet from my t.v to care bout high def media. I sit about 6 to 7 and i can not tell a dam difference. Mind you I have a Regza t.v
next time you make a comment that is of the "devil's advocate flavor," try to mix in at least a dash of logic and reality. It works! 3 ft/ 6-7 / upconver / Its beat.../ huh? wha? lol
regaza. no wonder you cant see the difference
I have a Regza and all its 1080p glory so hush up.. Its a Toshiba and who ever agreed with you doesnt know any thing either... Its like saying i have a bravia instead of saying sony... Toshiba is a very good brand and i recommend it to anybody.. The TV that is not their HD-DVD players..BLU FTW...
It's been said a million times over. Sony last year said time and time again. We have a better Business model than Microsoft. No one wanted to listen. Microsoft instead of making smart decisions they made spiteful decisions. They took routes that would slander Sony's name and make Sony look idiotic in their decisions. Microsoft knew dammnn well HD-DVD had an up hill battle. from the moment Sony implemnted Blu-Ray into the PS3 that was pretty much the Swan Song for HD-DVD. With Stand alone Next-gen format players being soo expensive Sony basically offered you a two for one special with the Blu-Ray Inclusion. The hates can't swallow it. But here is a glass a water kidds. Bottoms up. Alot of people call the PS3 the "Trojan Horse" for Blu-ray. But if you remember correctly. "The guys inside the horse won that war" : )
admit it. They don't contribute to the film or music industry, but turned on the massive blu-ray support day 1! Even Paramount was their day 1. What a joke. Make a movie MS or a in-house player, or shut up. I don't trust MS like all my 360 owning friends (they refused the dud add on and got a PS3 for xmas). Even the BDA said what they would do if they failed. But they ARE the ACTUAL theater (film production), home distribution, and hardware providers!
It should say"if consumors demand a blu ray 360 would sony let them do it?" Nope.
SCE can now officially say that Blu-ray controls over 70% segmentation of the HD market. Major studios recently including Warner Brothers, have switched to Blu-Ray Exclusives in how they publish their movies. The upperhand Blu-Ray has gotten over its competition is a very hard one, it is very likely that only Blu-Ray will be supported in the HD market by this time next year. Even our competition in some areas is looking into any opportunities as to how to approach Blu-Ray. The chance that our competition will be allowed to utilize Blu-ray in its inventory is very unlikely. I'm Phil Harrison corporate executive and a representative director of Sony Computer Entertainment, Inc. (SCEI) Also Executive Vice President of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe (SCEE).
The fact that Sony already heavily relies on Microsoft easily leaves the doors open for a deal to be made.
Who is forcing anyone. People cannot be forced to buy anything if they feel its not for them. Lots of people wanted HD video and they chose Blu-Ray as their format. HD-DVD didn't sell even as a 360 addon. This is the ultimate proof. If Microsoft wanted to sell HD discs they would have chosen Blu-Ray and be a richer company today. Now they are stuck with Toshiba and will try to market their unpopular mediacenter with hd video download. HD video downloads is not a bad idea however this will be won by Apple or Sony or someone else. This Blu-Ray win actually meant Microsoft just lost their opportunity at HD video downloads. Disagree if you may but in two years you will se I was right.
as if consumers control corporate execs. especially when it comes to M$. They've been f*cking over gamers ever since they released the 360 so what makes anyone think they will push out a blu-ray player if "everyone" pickets their office or demand a blue ray player. and exactly how will the consumers "demand" a blu-ray 360 player?
That's just asinine. Beg and cry for a feature that will drive up the price. By the time said feature would be implemented, you could just buy a player for an equivalent price. What I do think would be a good idea would be a Blu-Ray add-on. The thing is, even am HD-DVD standard 360 would be a monumentally dumb idea, because the blasted thing can't use it for games anyway. Did the N64 have a CD player? How about the Genesis? Gamecube play DVDs? I rest my case. Add-on? Yes. Standard? Hell no. It would only make them look like fools.
Microsoft when the hd dvd play was announced said that if and when blu ray became dominate they could and would support that format. and just recently they said the same thing... hmm enough said. except its a fact microsoft said this 2 years ago and recently.
I dont know if microsoft would support the idea, more then likely another company will step up to the plate. BTW, that topic picture is just too funny. "we'll im getting dressed aren't I?"
It would've made the 360 games (as well as PS3 multiplats) a lot better. But now that it's too late and they can only do it for movies, I'm sure someone in Microsoft is fighting to release a Blu-ray Addon. It may take a while, but just like HDMI, 1080p, and HD-DVD, I'm sure it'll get out eventually. Hopefully sooner rather than later because there is a LOT of money to be made off of Blu-ray hardware.
...you'd realize that was IMPOSSIBLE. The 360 came out a FULL YEAR before any Blu-Ray OR HD-DVD drives were on the market. The 360 was in full production and ready to ship long before ANY HD players were in production. Like I said in the first post, MS made the right decision.
MS MADE THE RIGHT DECISION?!?!? are you the most ignorant person on here? they rushed a not ready product with huge failure rates calling it next gen when nothing in it was next gen!?!?! they threw extra processors and a new video card in xbox and called it 360. they knew hd dvds were going to becoming out but instead of fully supporting it they wanted to rush a quick buck by getting the 360 out before the wii and ps3. but we all know that only cost them millions in repairs. no choice 360 made was the right choice. get a brain.
Plus DJ if ALL MAJOR COMPANIES use Blu-Ray INCLUDING MICROSOFT that will be nothing but a WIN WIN FOR SONY
Crap... now the Sony fanboys are in full swing. I thought we beat them and got rid of them in this generation. I hate Sony fanboys so much cuz they are so arrogant, loud, use weird symbols when they write, and defy all logic. They just eat whatever Sony feeds them. They always talk up games and when the games comes to Xbox I'm like... this game series sucks! Like Metal Gear Solid... I have never played a worse game them that. I'm about console freedom and not "p0wn!ng". I just wish they could just enjoy their games as much as they do because they appeal to them and I could enjoy the games that appeal to me. That's why I already have two of the next generation consoles this generation and will have the third when my money supports.
tethered: "Are you saying there was no demand for the HD-DVD add-on?" Only 1.6% of Xbox 360 owners actually purchased the HD DVD add on. It is/was a failure. The PS3 offered Hi-Def integrated into the system at a more afforable price since day one, not to forget, supporting the superior format. The future is Blu. The future is the Playstation 3 Super Home Computer. Jack Tretton
well actually it would be a good thing, you know make every xbox360 have a bluray drive, then you wouldnt have the ridulous 3 dvd blue dragon and 4 dvd lost odyssey
I believe that the future is Blu-Ray and Downloadable movies and I will tell you why. DLC is great when you just want to watch a movie check it out but what if you want to own the movie. Currently you can only watch downloads for 24 hours(except for older movies). And at some point you will need to back up all that HD content and Blu-Ray is the best format for that. If you know you want to own a movie it is best to buy it on Blu-Ray. Either way you will need to have some kind of storage media other than a hard drive for backing data up/copy.
If Microsoft is such a looser if it'll do that! Everyone who wants a blu-ray player BUY A PS3!!!
I don't think 1.6% adoption rate is necessarily a failure. You need to look if it brought revenue/profit to the company because that is what determines if something is a success or a failure. I am kind of wondering if they were making money on the HD-DVD drive.
The Xbox 360 is far more successful than the PS3 and the PS3 has Blu-Ray. Try to deny the 360 is more successful PS3 fans and you will be a fool. The Wii, 360, Mac and PC have seemed to do very well without Blu-Ray. Infact the only platform supporting Blu-Ray at all is Sony's, everyone else is still using DVD which still holds 95% of the market. It's going to take years to push DVD out and by that time downloading will be as mainstream as MP3s. By the time Blu-Ray takes DVD everyone will have portable entertainment that plugs into everything anywhere. DVD, HD DVD and Blu-Ray are all old tech and they are all in their dying days and the sooner the better. So have fun with those disc guys because soon the only good thing about them will be coffee coasters or portable mirrors to comb your hair in. The world is allready aware of downloadable entertainment and there are many services that reach around the world. Xbox Live, Blockbuster, Netflix, Valve and every broadband service has jumped on this bandwagon. Sony, like their gaming console is a generation behind and they are even going to offer a downloadable service and you droids will be the worlds biggest hypocrites because you will have to defend all that which you talked sh!t about and I like many xbots will be here to laugh at you like we have so many times this year. Funny how Sony went from king of the consoles to king of the toilet brush. Have a nice last place day :)
Damn that's a funny Picture :)
lol great image ;)
Huh? Demand? I thought gamers don't watch movies and Sony is forcing a BD drive on them lol
i hope 360 does add a blu ray add on, it will just prove sony thinks about long term not the short term buck. the more support blu ray gets the more you have to admit sony's got some idea of whats going on for consumers...
bullsh!t. it's going to affect 360 sales if Blu-ray wins. think about it. if you're in a store and you have a great video games console that can also play HD discs and you have just a great games console...which would you pick? if i didn't already own both and Blu-ray was in when i decided to get one or the other, i'd go with the Blu-ray games console. you hit two birds with one stone. if HD DVD dies it may not directly affect sales of the 360, but it will indirectly affect sales of it by making sales of the PS3 increase. just an opinion.
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