The fate of HD-DVD is not critical to the success of the Xbox 360, according to senior Microsoft officials, who have noted that the company would consider supporting rival technology Blu-ray if it were victorious in the high-definition format war.
Is not going to suffer by HD-DVD losing the format war. Nobody is going out and buying an xbox 360 JUST so they can watch HD-DVD's, when you can buy a standalone player for less, it's just simple math. Sony, however, has the Playstation 3 priced as one of the lowest (or THE lowest) priced blu-ray players on the market, so they are in more of a position to gain or lose sales based on the outcome of the format war.
You are correct sir. Having an optional player let some people purchase one if they were interested in HD-DVD. Personally, I did not buy one because I was waiting to see who would emerge victorious. But I do believe Sony was smart in putting a Blu-Ray player in their PS3. I will be purchasing a PS3 in the coming months once I see a good bundle deal or the price is dropped, and I am looking forward to watching Blu-Ray movies on my 1080p tv. But both the 360 and PS3 are successes already and their futures look bright for both systems.
but it`s NOT a good thing HD-DVD is dying QUICKLY for the people they have convinced to get the HD-DVD add on for 360.
Either way the PS3 is more reasonable now... they both have the same Multiplatforms and I want the PS3's Exclusives more... online is free... built in WiFi. Everything is better. In game XMB and PS Home and Downloadable Music and movies in 2008. 2008 is gonna be good
Heck yea dude!
sorry my man,
2008 is going to be UN-F**KING-BELIEVABLE!
That would be like saying the PS2 HDD add-on was critical to it's success. Nowhere was the console designed around the thing. It's tough to pull that off with add-ons, particularly ones with limited relevant support.
May have been if HD-DVD was usable for games, but even then, if the format buckled for movies, they could have still produced them for the space it provides.
I still think they shot themselves in the foot by not implementing this as standard(and usable for games of course), but they'll be alright.
Success of the 360 may not rely on HD-DVD, but I reckon the success of HD-DVD did rely on the 360. If Microsoft had put one inside the 360, rather than as an add-on, I think things would have looked very different right now. But, they didn't, and it seems Blu-ray has been allowed to win this part of the war because of Microsoft unwillingness to build an HD player into their console.
After all, I didn't buy the PS3 as a Blu-ray player, but I do have several BDs already. How many 360 owners would have bought HD-DVDs if their machine could automatically play them? And there are far more 360s out there than PS3s at the moment.
As I said, I think things would have been very different.
MSFT would have priced the 360 at $600 and would have launched at the same time with PS3, if not before but after the 2005 holiday season, and it would have miserably failed. Xbox wasn't a brand name that could afford to price themselves out of the market
lets see here... oh yea duh!
Heck Playstation doesn't GAIN anything either. The only one who makes money off of BlueRay winning is Sony Corp and the other makers.
The new formats have nothing to do with the gaming rigs what-so-ever. Xbox will still make games on DVD and PS3 will still make games on BlueRay regardless of what wins what.
the 360 dosent use either of the hd formats for its games just the movies. yeah some people jumped into the sinking ship but it was going to happen. (360 game console) (ps3 multimedia console) its whichever one you want. lets quit this BS as both camps have their games to play!
Already! It never needed a next-gen dvd format. There's no games that do. And if games were to ever need the 'BENEFITS' of BR (extra space), you'd see more games on the PC using the extra, CHEAPER hdd space of today's PCs.
until DD properly takes off how are you gonna get the games to your pc in the first place. what are you gonna do buy a HDD with a game on it?! you and i know the xbox "would" of been intense if they included a HD drive in the first place.
You can't equate the PC and 360 when speaking of storage space on a DVD since you don't install games to your 360. Games have to be decompressed and decoded on the fly with consoles whereas a huge chunk of most games is installed directly to the PC's HDD. That means that theoretically more game content can be shipped on a PC DVD game than a console DVD game.
I really don't think we need all the space of hd formats for games yet. Some of the need for space has actually gone down because there is less use of CGI in newer games.
Crysis takes up about 6 gb on a hd. Don't you think if this hardcore,extremely graphic intensive game would come on 2 DVD's( or more) if it really needed to? People with money to have such a rig would surely have the hard drive space for it.You could just install the first one and use the other while you play, it would not use that much space.
But as the guy over me said hd install is a very good thing. I think the 360 would have benefited a great deal if it had. 60-80gb as the smallest hard drive size(xbox1 was 20? why downgrade..), and you could install games on it for better performance and better use of space(as stated above).
It's not as expensive as you might think to build a Crysis able PC. My PC runs everything on high, with if I remember correctly, 3 options on very high for 740$. But I did already have a case/monitor/PS. So it's not exactly cheap but still very well in the price range of someone buying a new PC.
And if you wanted you could bare with 2 DVD's to install if it was needed am I right?
Also if you want to run crysis with everything maxed in 1920x1200 a sli GTX will still not be enough. But thats one of the nice things with computers. All your games get better graphics when you upgrade. You can use higher resolutions and more aliasing.
The RROD now hd dvd. Oh, something is gonna give! Worldwide numbers prove it. The EU made a huge deal about MS business practices. Something will/has hurt.
the format wars wont effect the outcome of the 360, first and formost the 360 is a gaming console, so i doubt anyone is using thier 360 soley for watching hd-dvd movies
however the PS3 is gonna benefit BIGTIME!
I think the a big part was the fact that ps3 didn't have a lot of great games out so people were buying blu ray disks instead of games and renting blu ray movies. I really think that played a big part in the success of them beating out hd-dvd. Sony had to known this fact and It was a very smart move on there behalf. They know you spend all of this money on a console and if you can't buy games for it your gonna buy something for it.
but Bluray's success will also amount to PS3's success, and inevitably 360 relative failure
360's relative failure? The 360 wont fail at all, even if the PS3 were to overtake it in sales, it has more than enough of an install base to make it a profitable venture for Microsoft this generation. I don't know what makes you or anybody for that matter think there is actually going to be a literal "winner" of the console war. This is business, not a playground footrace.
Oh, and nice avatar.
... and from what I see, that's not even an issue. The 360 will be just fine.
Yes, I, a PS3 owner, can state the obvious.
360 is number 1 in games, number 1 in online and number 2 in console sales, while the PS3 is dead last in absolutly every catigory but Blu-Ray movies. 360 has 29 games that sold over a million with 8 million Halo 3 and 4 million COD4 copies sold and has over 50+ games that sold over 500,000. The 360 has 10 million people on Live, over 60% of it's owners. While the PS3 has only 3 million, which is less than 50% and it's a free service. The 360 has outsold the PS3 and the Wii in software combined and has an attach rate of 7 while the Wii has 3 and the PS3 has 3 and the Wii has more consoles than the 360 and PS3 combined. The PS3 is absoluty last on everything period.
1st game sales
1st downloadable content
1st on attach rate
1st on money earned
1st for devs in profit
1st in million sellers
1st in GOTY games
1st in higest rated games
2nd in console sales
last = here is your attaboy medal
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what a gay speach that was - so gay infact I had to tell you that its gay :)
wow after that speech i think your going to need microsoft to pull your pull string and get you ready again.....
good thing microsoft never followed sony to include a high def player in their console... that would've been very bad...
as for the case of sony... i do believe they really needed blu-ray to win... not only because of the movies but because of their games... they even delayed the release of their console for this... this gen's games are consuming a lot more space than before... and don't give me the "that's because of CGI which we don't need" crap... some people want them, some people dont... but just because others doesn't want it doesn't mean that it should not be included... sony took the gamble and now its paying off... they will be making games without cosuming 2 cd's for a while... something the xbox 360 will not be able to do... "not much of a difference?" maybe, but at least it made a little difference...
Only 2% of all 360 owners have the HD-DVD addon drive.
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