Nintendo Universe writes: Nintendo have a “smart technology strategy” that many fail to recognise, according to Ted Pollak, Jon Peddie Research senior gaming analyst.
If its more powerful then ill buy it but if not then I will stick with my PS3 and 360
Both Super Mario Galaxy titles are (1 & 2) are the higest rated games of the current generation (according to Metacritic), and "power" had nothing to do with it. I can "guarantee" you that the Wii U will outclass both the Xbox 360 and PS3 (which isn't hard because both those systems are using dated tech), but that isn't what Nintendo's trying to showcase with their Wii U console. For those of you who missed out -- BC with original Wii accessories and software, will increase its library of titles, instantly when it launches this year (2012). Can you imagine playing original Wii games on the Wii U pad, without the need of a tv set? Playing the "power" game is a futile effort, cause PC's have that title under wraps. Specific brand supporters always want their console of choice to out-spec the competition, though sometimes it doesn't bode well for the company, as a whole. There's a reason why people say, "beauty's only skin deep", cause a pretty woman's persona is usually the opposite of her looks.
"Both Super Mario Galaxy titles are (1 & 2) are the higest rated games of the current generation (according to Metacritic), and "power" had nothing to do with it. " That's a good thing about Wii, they have a few great exclusives, but ... the best multiplatform games don't exist in Nintendo systems. Games from Bethesda (Skyrim, fallout), Rockstar (GTA4, Red Dead, Max payne 3), 2K Boston (Bioshock series), Rocksteady Studios (Batman's), Gearbox Software (Borderlands series)... among many other software companies don't exist in Nintendo systems. They need to launch a Wii U that's as powerful as the next gen systems (PS4/Xbox720), to receive support from 3rd party.
This feel like the Wii all over again. Nintendo Wii haters: its a gimmick and will die in a year, LMAO at waggle, Nintendo is doom. When the Wii U launches, look for MS or Sony to release a tablet like controller for the PS4/720. Book mark this comment. Edit: Yes Sony can use the Vita buts its not the same - Will Sony offer a free PS Vita with every PS4 purchase? Like i said this is like the Wii all over again - people scream that Sony thought of motion controller first so the Move is not a Wii mote rip off and that Sony invented the PSEYE first so Kinect is a rip off but if thats the case then why does Sony never release them first? The PS VITA can probably do what the Wii U tablet can do but the diffidence is that the Wii U make sure that this a main feature in the Wii U games and not just a tack on.
Couldn't Sony just use Vita?
Sony did release the PSEye before Kinect, four years before Kinect in fact. Of course you may be going off the false assumption that the PSEye was released in September 2010 along side the Move. Which would... well still make you statement that Sony only released the PSEye after Microsoft released Kinect false seing as Kinect launched in November 2010.
I dont see how a tablet controller is innovative enough, or gamechanging in any way. Whether or not PS4 and 720 copy it too, it's still a gimmick (if not, then explain to me how it isnt just a gimmick). But either way, PS4 and 720 are ALSO likely to have some form of motion controls (whether we like it or not) to also have something for the casuals. SO, with that, I ask you--what is Nintendo doing to get back their motion-controls loving casual audience back? These were the same people who made WII sell millions. It was for the motion gimmick. Now that that''s gone (and the Wii-motion plus doesnt count--its tech is way outdated and innefficient), then what will nintendo's "hook" be? They need to think about that audience too. Current gen graphics (or slightly better), a gimmicky I-pad tablet controller, an untested nintendo network, etc Are things that concern me. I dont want to buy a Wii-U when it doesnt seem to have anything about it that makes it innovative/necessary. They need something "more".
I still don't understand why they 1) Called it the Wii U and 2) Made it look pretty much like the Wii. Lots of families, mothers, etc. will see a very similar console to the Wii with just an added "U", and say to their children "We already have a Wii." I like the theme of all of the Wii technologies, but I think these are two very important issues that should have been learned from the 3DS launch. E3 will be very interesting.
I actually never thought about that, I can actually see a lot of people saying they already have a Wii and not bothering. I do think Nintendo should have changed the name and look to make it seem like a totally new console. Saying all that I have no doubt it will still sell loads, I'll probably pick one up when a new Zelda comes out and if it's to the same standard as the tech demo!
That's because Nintendo is bringing the Wii U out to gain support of 3rd party which would then lasso "core" gamers. Do you think Nintendo would re-enter the "Arms race" to attract more casuals?
They may be trying to get the hardcore back but they aren't going to let the casual audience go for one second either, they're trying to balance them both, there would be too much of a drop in sales from the Wii to the Wii U if they just forgot about the casual.
But wouldn't this also apply to Sony and Microsoft's consoles? "I already own an Xbox, why buy a 360?" People aren't stupid, six years have passed since Wii so obviously technology has moved forward to make a new console necessary.
No, the 360 looks much different and the Wii was originally intended fo kids. Please be smarter, you have 5 bubbles for a reason, use it wisely.
My comment was clearly in reference to NAME, rather than DESIGN of the system. As for the design, clearly it does look a lot like Wii, but lets give the buyer some credit in figuring out that because it's at least somewhat different in looks and dimensions, is releasing six years later, and of course comes with a hulking great touch screen control pad rather than a Wiimote, that it is in fact a new system.
Maybe they are going back to the NES day when game were heavily focused single player games hence the U. I would love for Nintedo to go back to the old days.
NES,SNES days also had 2 player mode there were no take turn playing.
So long as Wii U is a decent step beyond PS3 and 360 it should bring over the magpies in its year or so as the only next gen system. Meanwhile Wii-only people would see it as a big leap. That does sound like a clever strategy, to be fair.
Very excited to see what this system can do. Playing Xenoblade right now for my Wii. If the Big N can bring more games like that to its new system then im sold, big time.
I wish Nintendo luck with that. They have rarely gotten third party support even though they are "innovative" which I find hilarious. Putting better hardware in systems allows developers to be innovative Nintendo fan boys.... Anyway, I doubt the Wii U will receive much third party support. Maybe just because of hard ware, but I'm sure a tablet controller can only complicate things. Nintendo will just throw out their rehashed first party titles as always.... just wait.
While I'm sure you'll keep playing COD 45 and battlefield 10 and Team fortress 12 blah blah blah..getting my point-Nintendo's "rehashes" are the best games in the world while you cast stones remember that this entire industry thrives on "rehashes" not just Nintendo.
@browngamer41 No I don't play COD or Battlefield or Team Fortress.... thanks for trying. Nintendo's rehashes are not the best in the world... Naughty Dog's are which is a first party developer for who? No, I totally agree rehashes are common in the gaming industry, the extent that Nintendo has taken it to is absurd....
We already know their strategy.. Release underpowered console that allows them to make a profit, but at the same time is powerful enough for the casuals who only play stuff like Mario.
when i saw their presentation at E3 that time i knew they had the strategy, i'm glad i didn't fell for it :) (yeah i had the wii for a while just so i can witness the casual horror and the lack of innovation in their Metroid/Zelda games with my own eyes, and then gladly sold it :D ) no next Wii/Shmii Nintendo, no more :P
I disagree. I feel this will be more like the Super Nintendo and the Sega 32X addon (though I assume with less shitty games). It's hardly confirmed that the Wii U truly is that underpowered. It probably will not hold up completely to its competition, but Nintendo probably will not use out of date hardware like people like to assume is fact. Also, Nintendo intends to market this to a core audience while making it affordable (whereas Wii was strictly for the casual/non-gamer crowd). So no, we really don't already know their strategy.
It's going to be over $300..... People are complaining how the Vita is expensive at $260!!! I'd like to know how they intend to compete with Sony and MS who are using less expensive hard ware and are then over clocking it. The stage is set for Sony if they can make the Orbis affordable. They are rumored to be using the 7670 which to me, is disappointing... but it can still produce some nice visuals. The Wii U will be very much like the 3DS. A great start, which decays into nothing until a price drop is announced. Who knows! Maybe Nintendo will announce another price drop just months after they release the Wii U!
@bothebo Wrong. The Vita is expensive at $250 - $300 plus whatever fortune you wind up spending on the memory card. The 3DS is better than it was before, and the price drop is not the ultimate reason for it. It has a lot of new games for it, both physical and downloadable. The issue for the 3DS and Vita at launch was not enough unique games. Yeah the vita had more at launch, but many of those were already available on another platform already (Gravity Rush is an exception). If the Wii U has a good lineup and can properly share multiplatform titles with the its competition (the Nextbox and PS4) then it will do just fine.
Nintendo strategy is to release under powered consoles which means when graphics become 100% Nintendo will be behind and have a reason to make another console afterwards.It also means they can fully focus on making great games rather than making them look pretty.This strategy also differentiated them from Sony and Microsoft this is why NINTENDO is awesome
By maxing out i mean to a point where a next generation will not see a discernable improvement in graphics. If pc's haven't hit the graphical ceiling yet, new consoles have long time before they max out
"If you cannot acknowledge that the Wii does actually have some good, if not great games, then it's your issue, not the issue of Wii owners or Nintendo." Actually i said nothing about nintendo titles in that, either positive or negative so stop putting words into my mouth. Or learn to read better next time take your pick. I am sorry i didn't think i would have to praise nintendo's quality titles, to tell a fool that seems to think ms and sony only concentrate on the graphics and completely ignore the gameplay a fool. Since that was the only thing i was actually commenting on, and not the quality or lack of in nintendo's game. "Just because a person accepts that the Wii was underpowered compared to its competition doesn't necessarily warrant any name-calling from you." And this has absolutely nothing to do with why he was called a fool by me. Nintendo makes good games, but not really into them anymore. I don't badger you because of your console games of choice. Either return the favor or shut up, because everything boils down to taste and preference. Not every attack is based solely on your team x and he is team y, so he is the enemy mentality.
Roll on E3, if it has more power than current gen, decent release lineup of games, day one for me cant wait to use the tablet control.
Not trolling here, But I gotta ask: What is it about a tablet controller that makes the Wii-U so innovative? I need help understanding how a mere touch screne is as gamechanging as the original Wii-mote was when the first wii was announced (the motion controls being the real hook that sold the wii millions of copies by it's casual gaming audience). Please help me understand, as I am at a loss of understanding the Nintendo fan's reasoning. (Although I too am a nintendo fan, I am not yet convinced that the Wii-U is gamechanging). Please help me understand.
At this point for me it's just the potential. It's a feature that's never been tried before. It's a gimmick/innovation (same thing) that has no drawbacks like the wiimote had, since it still had the buttons. So that extra security is helpful. Even if there are no real groundbreaking uses with the touchscreen (im sure there will be) there are still standard buttons + sticks + triggers to use. But I'm really excited to see how the screen is used, whether it's cleaning up the HUD off the screen, gameplay inputs, or interactivity between the screens (gameplay taking both on 2 screens, etc.). Maybe certain first person view games can use the screen + stylus like a mouse for control. if i can think of crap like that in a minute or two i'd love to see what Nintendo can do with years of focus on their own tech. They always get the most out of their own tech It reminds me of nintendo showing off what they can do with the joystick in Mario 64, though admittedly less integral to gameplay. but that suspense is still there EDIT: Being able to play old SNES/N64 games anywhere in the house, in my hands will be pretty cool. maybe even GCN games
Thanks, you've actually convinced me (to some degree) that the Wii-U has some good potential. I just wish they would be on par with the next gen systems in terms of power/graphics so that the Wii-U's third party support can stay strong in the long run. If it can run Unreal Engine 4, then maybe. But most 3rd parties want to make a game that can run universally on as many systems as possible without compromise. I hope the Wii-U's capabilities dont fall too far behind those of the next gen (like the first wii did with the ps3 and 360). Thanks for your honest and thoughtful input.
If it does Mode 7 ill be happy! As for the critics, are you seriously so deluded to not notice how Apple sells like crack on their App Store alone? The technology is irrelevant. Only the most foolhardy thinks high-end technology is a mainstream selling point, its not. Pollak explained this quite effectively (re:720p TV's). Personally, I have no faith in the Ipad 4 breaking new sales ground because of this. How do you sell a product that's only selling point is higher resolution? Ask the TV manufacturers that.
The rest of the real Games industry article is great. "Casual players now have multiple alternatives, particularly on smartphones and tablets. They might think twice about spending $300 on a console, unless they find something really UNIQUE about it." Yes, I believe Nintendo thought they would sell a tablet bundled with a home console, and basically try to cut Apple off at their knees. I think its an excellent decision when you consider how expensive Tablets are, and also that 50% of Tablet use is at home. A tablet (admittedly with roaming restrictions) PLUS a home console for 300$? These analysts have no idea about technology.
Very well said..bubble up for you good sir-it's refreshing to see someone speak about Nintendo without trolling on em'-I love all these 12 yr old elitist on here who own 360's and Ps3's and think they know a damn thing about technology.
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