CNET: "Microsoft's popular console is still proving to be one of the only bright spots in a market where sales keep sinking, according to NPD Group..."
A don't know how the 360 is particularly a bright spot in a terrible month. They saw a year over year decline in the US larger then some other consoles we could mention. I think the real story here is how far Nintendo has dropped off year over year. Both the Wii and 3ds are selling about 40% less than last year. Considering the numbers, that's a huge drop. It's surprising to me that so many articles I've read recently are all about "Yeah Microsoft!" when the real story, and the one more important to the industry as a whole should be "OMG. What can Nintendo do to reverse their fortunes in the US?" I haven't seen a single article yet that has even commented on this dramatic turn.
actually to be fair the fact that the consoles are still selling this well, 6 years into their life cycle is impressive. even with all of them dropping, selling hundreds of thousands of units this late into a cycle is impressive for all three, esp the wii snce the wii u is on the horizon and picking up hype
Dude cnet is owned by Microsoft. What would they write about?
you do know that CENT is owned by MS .. Do you ??
CNET is owned by CBS. It has never been a part of MS. There is nothing Nintendo can do for the Wii. There best bet is with the Wii U. And if the rumors are true and it is an average console, that will be a failure. I don't believe the rumors on it's power though. That would be incredibly stupid to go for anything other than a high end machine. They don't have to compete directly with the next Xbox and PS4. But they need to make something worth a developers time. Kids aren't into cute anymore for long. They will need real graphics to survive.
Could it just be that the market for Nintendo products is saturated? Plus people buy 360 and PS3 for more than just games.
Even if the wii's market is saturated, that's the story right there but we don't see it. I'm with darkride on this one. Yes, the 360 is doing well in the US, but it actually had a larger decline over sales from last year than the ps3. Although the 360 is going strong, the picture being painted by the likes of cnet isn't as rosy as they are making out.
@panda and darkride... i dont know what you guys are trying to do here but how much it declined is not relevant so long as its still selling well and outselling the competition. and i believe it accounted for most of the software sales as well, thats nothing but a success you may be a sony fanboy but trying to make it out like ms is in a worse position becuase of a greater decline just seems ignorant. sony is currently selling less, still in a decline, not selling as much software and just recently posted their biggest loss ever. i love sony too but take off your blinders boys, their situation is worse
@captain qwark The ps3 was less than 40k behind the 360 this year in march and over 150k more than the wii. The console gained a notable market share in the US and was only down 7% from last year. Sony's loss also has nothing to do with the game division, even if there is an argument that it may inadvertently affect it. Can't we discuss this without throwing around the fanboy ad hominem? ...well I guess I can't since I'm out of bubbles :(
Dont be stupid dude, the 3DS LAUNCHED LAST MARCH.......... You think any system is going to maintain launch numbers? Really?/// Nintendo sells the most combined hardware each month basically in each region. The 3ds is number 1 in the world each month
Last year was the 360's BEST YEAR EVER (and the best year any HD console ever had). Of course the YOY is lower in 2012.
What needs to be said about the Wii that is already been obvious over the past year? It was on a decline before and after the Wii U announcement and even a price drop hasn't helped it. It is done plain and simple. The reason the 360 keeps getting praise is because it is making up 42 percent of the sales regardless that it had a drop. Most of the new games sold more on the 360 and consumers have spent more on it than the others. All this after going into the 7th year and STILL no price drop. Yeah give respect where respect is due. MS has been maintaining.
Xbox continues to reign amidst weak video game market..... In America!
yep. perhaps the fact that in worldwide sales the 360 is only 2 million ahead of the PS3 now will be overlooked. MS are in a lot of trouble and they desperately need a price drop if they are going to go into christmas with any lead at all.
lol the things people need to help them sleep at night!! this far into the cycle, finish position is only important to fanboys.
Its 3.8 million ahead. It will get a price cut later in the year and sales will pick up again.They will be fine http://www.gameinformer.com... http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
GribbleGrunger, the reason no one cares about Sony inching closer to the 360's lead is that it's so slowly that by the time it does it(and I don't believe it ever will), we will have been in the next generation for over a year. People have been talking about the PS3 catching up for 3 years now. It's not happening.
Well they will hardy want to talk about Japan will they? :P
hahaha, good one
Honestly, who cares about Japan at this point. North America is the big fish now. The best studios are here, and the largest piece of the pie, as well.
Sales are down because price have not come down. The industry is fine. we are 7 years in and the consoles are still 300 bucks. thats the problem
Exactly! Bubbles for you!
yes, but why is the 360 getting outsold by a more expensive console every week? it's odd how the lack of games is always cited for poor hardware sales, unless it's the 360
gribble perhaps you should ask the question of how the follow up to a 130+ million selling console, has struggled this gen? or how comes the company that absolutely dominated for ten years could lose so much market share in one generation??? or are they questions just too painful to ask?
@tokugawa, it's simple really. First, a few key reasons: high price at launch, launching last this generation, PS3 "had no games", Xbox 360 had some big momentum with Halo and Gears, Wii had huge casual and curious momentum due to it's unique controls, etc etc. And secondly: no company in any industry will stay on top forever, just take a look at Nintendo's journey from where they started, where they we're during PS1 and PS2 days and where they are now. I won't go deeper to the reasons behind Sony's market share loss, but you don't have to make it sound like it's something that's never happened before.
The first question is irrelevant, as it's more than rare for a console maker to maintain their lead into the next generation. But, if you just HAD to ask: being more than a year late to the party, coupled with a much higher price tag than the competition has not stopped the PS3 from selling at a faster rate than the current second place system. Oh, and last I checked, 60 million systems was hardly considered "struggling." As for your second question, we could ask Nintendo the same thing, couldn't we? The NES and SNES may have had some competition, but Nintendo was still the go-to name in gaming, even into the start of the next generation, when they faced the PS1. The questions aren't difficult to ask or answer. It's just a matter of certain crowds conveniently forgetting- or perhaps being too young to know- that Sony wasn't always in the lead, and that they're actually DOING BETTER than the 360 is right now. Yes, that's right. Do the math. 62+ million since 2006 compared to 66+million since 2005. Oh, and they're both still 30 million behind the always forgotten Wii. Yeah, it's slumped in sales. Yeah, it's not in HD. But it's still a current gen system, and it's still in the lead. Funny how fans of a certain console like to forget that.
@DK286K "So, here's a recap of today's pro-PS3 argument, just from the past three comments . 60 million - not struggling 66 million - in a lot of trouble" That recap doesn't really describe my previous comment very well. I did say something like losing market share is nothing new in business, but when you count my comment in to that recap of yours, that's just absurd. The only thing I said about Xbox 360 was that 2 of it's exclusives had huge momentum early on this gen, which most probably allured some gamers to buy Xbox 360 instead of PS3.
Sony's problems go beyond sales. They are last in sales and last in profit this generation. And I know gamers don't care about the money part. But for Sony to remain a company they kinda need that. MS has remained ahead despite the fact that their console doesn't really sell at all in one area. Japan is a huge market and Xbox doesn't sell there well. Plus the 360 outsold the PS3 last year worldwide despite not selling in Japan. And after a few years of a major hardware failure problem. So going from 10% of the market to 40% is pretty good.
Sales are down because the damn things have been out since 2005 2005!!! talk about dated, i think walkmans were cool then, and vhs!! lol....make new consoles......people have been gaming in 720p since 2000, and sometime the consoles cannot even do 720p.... alan wake was 540p on xbox360.......ewwwwwww
yet Alan Wake Looks amazing...
It looks good, but not amazing.
Isn't CNET pro 360?
Surprised by how well the Xbox 360 is still selling. Kudos to micrsoft for taking the biggest market in gaming and running away with it.
hmmm...thought this article was abit strange, till i saw he is an editor for microsoft technet......seems like his piece may be more opinionated than fact but who knows
I think the clear take away from the gaming industry right now is that there is an overall downward trend... 360, PS3 and Wii. The 360 and PS3 numbers are not as glaring because They are trending down on avg about 10% month after month and two they still have some hefty software sales both retail and digital so the revenue drop off isn't as apparent. The Wii however has definitely impacted the industry most negatively. Nintendo Wii sales have completely fallen off at an alarmingly fast rate. Compounding that is the absolute lack of support the Wii is getting software wise. Since the 1st of this year I think there have been all of about 5 new titles to come out on the Wii.. Xenoblade being the most notable of those. It is abundantly clear that the Wii is now a dead platform. Nintendo has ZERO desire to support it, and 3rd Party's don't either. So the trickle effect is now the console with largest consumer base has really nothing "new" to buy month in and month out.
MS re-sparked their 360 with bad kinect games. tis sad -_-. lol at the star wars game and FPS DBZ game haha
The PS3 is selling well to 341,000 nice try cnet.
don't bother no one in this article will admit that ps3 did amazing job in usa and gain alot of market share in usa even after the xbox year head start and this month it was only 30k behind xbox in xbox home there is not a single place in the whole world where ps3 not selling great in it you will get disagrees and i will get disagrees as well nothing will change but what they fail to understand that the agrees and disagrees won't change a damn thing about the facts
how you get market share increased when you sell less?! both are selling fine its the wii thats making the industry have a decline.
Too many handheld s for my liking and too many gaming phones, I think that's what's killing the console market. Some phones are more money than consoles and people (case ul gamers) do there gaming on these.
Yeah well, all this does not really matter because we are due for new consoles anyway. My Blu-Ray player rules the video part of my home with Netflix coming in second. Until we have 25 Mbps download speeds, I don't see any console doing well in the streaming market. (Having 10 things running off your router at all times does not help either! LOL!)
I'm trying to figure out WHY people are buying 360's. It's always...and I mean ALWAYS...because of these stupid gimmicks they come out with. Right now, it's Star Wars Kinect. I've seen like seven people I know buy that stupid Star Wars 360 with Kinect and the game. It's a terrible game! They all knew it would be. They bought it for the "cool design" though. Sony... You need to step your game up. Release a Lord of the Rings PS3. It's more important to do things like this than give us quality games.
The gaming industry is going to $hit and all gamers seem care about is the slight leads that one console has over another while they can't seem to understand that people are buying less every year.Gaming is in trouble in general and people are still cheering and bumping chest over a few hundred thousand units ahead of another system.In the end if this continues the whole industry is going to collapse in on itself
LOL! at all these comical excuses. 10,000 people lost their jobs because of Sonys struggle. Wait until God of War4, Haze 2, Killzone 4 and Uncharted 3 release. That should close the gap. Atleast those Moves are flying off the shelves. 1 year head start?!! Its 2012! Lol!
Those 10k people work at Sonys TV divisions and stuff like that. There have been no mass lay offs at Playstation-related divisions since it is like the only profitable part of Sony. They only thing that happens is studios who keep delivering sub-par game, are getting closed down which would have happened anyway even if Sony had Apple's money. BTW Uncharted 3 came out last November. There won't be a Haze 2 LMFAO. You really don't know anything about PS3 do you? yes, it is 2012 but you seem to be stuck in 2009.
@gravelord, what about Sony has been closing studio lately? If the entire gaming is doing well, why aren't they keep expanding them?
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