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Submitted by donniebaseball 837d ago | news

PS3 sales "continue to lag" Xbox, price cut "likely" by E3 says Pachter

E3 is right around the corner in June, and while Nintendo's Wii U is likely to grab the spotlight with no next-gen announcements planned from Microsoft and Sony, Nintendo's rivals could apply some pressure to the market with hardware price cuts. In fact, Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter sees a PS3 price drop as a likely outcome at E3. (Industry, Microsoft, PS3, Sony, Xbox 360)

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NYC_Gamer  +   837d ago
I expect the kinect 250gb bundle to receive the price cut
GribbleGrunger  +   837d ago
to sum up this article for those who can't be bothered to read it:

'consoles sell according to the software available'
Razmossis  +   837d ago | Well said
Stopped reading at "says Pachter".
guitarded77  +   837d ago
@ Razmossis

Yeah, Patcher is a waste of life, but I too think both consoles will see a price drop at E3. Sony needs to break the $200 magic price mark. There's just something about that $200 mark that brings consumers running... even though it's only a $50 difference. MS should offer the 320gb at the $200 price point, and both Sony and MS need to have motion control system packages under the Wii U's price point. Nintendo's new console will be the must have holiday gift and in short supply, so if Sony and MS have a better priced console and readily available it will give them both monster sales this holiday.
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brish  +   837d ago | Well said
I always find it odd how the xbox outselling the ps3 in the USA every year is news but the ps3 outselling the xbox globally every year isn't news.

http://www.vgchartz.com/yea...

http://www.vgchartz.com/yea...
KonaBro  +   837d ago
Well....
Brish I wouldn't use VGChartz to back up anything considering most people will just laugh at you.

As for Pachter, he's just being an idiot as usual. Sony isn't trying to beat Microsoft in sales. They could easily do that by dropping the PS3 to a price that no one could ignore. However, Sony is trying to make money and since they are the only console to make money at a higher prices then the other two consoles, I find it highly unlikely the PS3 drops in price in this year. If it does, it will be towards the end of the year in time for the holidays.
sikbeta  +   837d ago
PS3 will not catch up to X360 in sales...
thorstein  +   837d ago
Not to mention that this is just a pseudonym for "IndustryGamers" a site whose writers know nothing about the Industry or Gaming. They are just trolling for hits on their irrelevant site.
GribbleGrunger  +   837d ago
@sikbeta

i think you'll find that 'catching up' eventually leads to 'being caught'
brish  +   837d ago
Opinion: Why PlayStation 3 Will Outsell Xbox 360
http://ps3.ign.com/articles...
pixelsword  +   837d ago
Worldwide or US?

These articles always leave out the info that contradicts their central theme.
Edward75  +   837d ago
@ Brish , do you live in the United States? If so that is why it matters. Prices for systems are different here then elsewhere, and if you do live in the US what products and how many that sell in different countries has little affect on here. Flip the script and say you lived in Japan... Why talk about 360 worldwide sales? It makes sense.
rhcpfan  +   837d ago
@brish

lol@"ign" and "opinion"
room414  +   837d ago
Why do articles about U.S. sales always have misleading titles?
NeoBasch  +   837d ago
@ Edward75
This is what I don't get. Why do people assume N4G only applies to America. N4G is a news feed for games. Period. That includes the UK, Japan, and any other nation with significant news in gaming.
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MmaFan-Qc  +   837d ago
what Pachter say....is always futile.
DeadlyFire  +   837d ago
Well I was kinda already expecting that. Typically when a new generation is announced old generation cuts prices back. I could have predicted this in 2010.
Drekken  +   837d ago
Its just time for a $199.00 PS3. I don't care which model... its just time.
Hellsvacancy  +   837d ago
I think im gonna need another PS3 before too long, my slim takes a little while to load games, i price-cut would be handy
torchic  +   837d ago
I want $199 so that I can sell my black slim and get the white slim :D

then get the "Great Wave" PS3 skin oh yessss :)
Fylus  +   837d ago
Definitely. My Slim is sort of in a malfunctioning stage... It won't read disks after it gets too hot and it keeps corrupting my hard drive. I could definitely cough up 200$ for an all out brand new system:) It needs to happen before DUST 514 comes out though
Consoldtobots  +   837d ago
call me crazy but if you go to gamestop.com you see the PS3 for $199 and the 360 for $139.
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morkendo23  +   837d ago
U can buy 60gb ps3 @ pawnshop for 149.00 now
here in seattle.
bought second one saturday.
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MastaMold  +   837d ago
The PS3 has been in 2nd place in worldwide sales for most of this year again US does not equal the world when will people understand this, oh yea and the PS3 has sold 60+ million in 5 years it took the 360 6 years to pass those numbers it looks like the PS3 has sold way faster dont you think
Dlacy13g  +   837d ago | Well said
When will people understand that an article speaking about NPD preview reports and US sales is not meant to represent the world? When will people stop feeling the need to "defend" their console everytime a sales related article comes up? When will people understand articles like this aren't about who is in first, second or third but about expectations on price cuts in the U.S.?
Dmarc  +   837d ago
Whats so hard about saying sales lag in US flourish worldwide ?
I think if they made it known people would understand :) however they dont......
just to answer one of your questions.
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duplissi  +   837d ago | Intelligent
ill just leave this here...

as of nov 2011:
If you average out worldwide units sold per month of each console, the numbers favor Sony. Over its lifetime of 72 months on the market, Xbox 360 is averaging about 800,000 units sold per month. Over 60 months on the market, PlayStation 3 is averaging 925,000 units sold per month.

Based solely on averages, if you were to remove Xbox 360's year head start, 57.6 million units sold becomes 48 million units sold. If you were to give PlayStation 3 12 more months to sell, paralleling Xbox 360's lifecycle, PS3's 55.5 million units becomes 66.6 million units sold.
Hicken  +   837d ago
@duplissi
+bubbles.

Now, let's see someone call that a lie, or minimize its importance. It's only a matter of time.
mr_badhand  +   837d ago
Every year its the same thing. PS3 will outsell the 360.

How many price drops?
How many models?
How many bundles?

Maybe its time to let this issue die and move on. People keep bringing up the 360's headstart but it is what it is, a headstart.
If this issue is so important to some here then maybe we should be mad at Sony for not releasing a year earlier.
Muffins1223  +   837d ago
Yes but usa makes up msot of the world market and is the largest market soooo it is almost the World sales when it makes up for 75 percent of the gaming inustry
darkride66  +   837d ago
mr_badhand said "Every year its the same thing. PS3 will outsell the 360."

And every year except last year and that one year they tied, the PS3 has. What's your point?
I don't understand why this is even an issue for debate. Since the 360 had any competition, head 2 head it's been outsold. By the Wii and by the PS3.

And even though the 360 clings to it's small lead from it's time when it was sold unchallenged, we know it doesn't matter because research has shown that when it comes to consoles out in the wild, there are more active PS3's out there than there are 360's. This is what matters to the industry. It's not the slight lead Microsoft's console still clings to on paper, it's the amount of consoles out in the wild and what's moving the most software. That's what makes the industry thrive - software, nor hardware. And from the developers themselves we know that with the exception of Call of Duty - revenue generated between the PS3 and 360 are neck and neck. So in this great pissing match, as far as the industry is concerned - so far it's pretty much a tie.
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Drake117  +   837d ago
Lol i would like to see some facts and numbers about the number of ps3s and 360s "out in the wild". Right now its giving me a picture in my head of xbox 360s and ps3s in the middle of the jungle spear fishing.
banner  +   837d ago
If you have to take the advantage that one console had and say, take that away and give it to the other console..... You sir look stupid!

All this moving the numbers around is stupid... As of today, ms has sold more consoles world wide. Ms is still ahead of sony by a few million some 6 yrs later some of you just have to get over it, cause new consoles will be here soon.
DK286K   837d ago | Spam
baodeus  +   837d ago
@duplissi and Hiken

"IF" you were to remove Xbox 360's year head start, or "IF" you were to give PlayStation 3 12 more months to sell,

Why ask IF when there is no IF, you already know the result. What is the total current console sold now, as in what is the current state of gaming consoles, in REALITY, no IF?

Here is some food for thought:

You (ps3) and me (x360) join a race. You arrived late and you remained last. So instead of asking why you lost, you said "if" you were early, you could have won.

1. Well why didn't you show up early like i did?

2. Do you ever think or would admit that it is your fault for coming late to the race and lost? Should I be blamed for you being late?

3. I'll admit, you ran faster than I'm. Everyone know You and You were their favorite while I was a nobody. I join in as a rookie which you didn't even notice since you left me in the dust from the previous race. You still take me lightly this time around, running high on your ego, so you take your time thinking you could beat me, but now you just trailing behind. Who fault is it? It is me or you?

4. Haven't you learn anything from the Tortoise and the Hare story?

5. With that said, we both lost to that old veteran runner; he was late too like you. What a shocker.
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kreate  +   837d ago
@bao

i do like ur comment.

But between microsoft and sony, microsoft is the more ego-driven company.

Microsoft doesnt even care about sony. They're more worried about apple and google.
SilentNegotiator  +   836d ago
@Dlacy

So it's okay to ignore the Ps3's general sales just because? Oh, well, so long as we're ONLY discussing NPD, we can say that the ps3 is "lagging" behind the 360 and SEVERELY needs a pricecut.

"When will people learn that we can ignore the ps3's general success and delude ourselves by sticking our heads in the sand with NPD sales charts? If Pachter, a supposed professional, wants to talk as if a limited scope shows he entire picture, why can't he without you evil pstree fanbois getting all over him??"

You're more than happy to ignore how the ps3 is REALLY doing in favor of NPD numbers, though. You KNOW that if the tables were reversed, you would NEVER let a portion of sales that show the ps3 favor be treated like the whole.
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Trenta27  +   836d ago
That may have been the case before, but not anymore. PS3 sales have pretty much stalled, Sony is losing billions and cutting jobs, and they are having trouble keeping people with the console. I love my PS3, but my Xbox beats him.
baodeus  +   836d ago
@kreate

I agree with you that MS is pretty arrogant too, and that is why they are late and losing in the mobile/search market against Apple and Google; Although those are entirely different markets.

I think eventually, OS, which is MS strength, might also become obsolete.
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donniebaseball  +   837d ago
Seems like MS is in the driver's seat. If they drop price, Sony has no choice.
teedogg80  +   837d ago
I agree
CarlitoBrigante  +   837d ago
Pachter never learns, Sony won't announce any pricecut in E3 if history learns us anything. Because right after E3 its summer and its a really calm season to buy new consoles.

I expect Sony to give a pricecut around september, like they did in 2009 and 2011.
Rhythmattic  +   837d ago
With hands flailing...

Its a kinect joke....
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Sgt_Slaughter  +   837d ago
*Shakes head back and forth with a facepalm*
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Dmarc  +   837d ago
so if sony drop the price ms will do nothing ?
DK286K   837d ago | Spam
BitbyDeath  +   837d ago
@DK286K, don't know where you're from but MS dropped the price in Australia last year after Sony did.

Sony actually had their console cheaper than MS for a few weeks down here.
Dmarc  +   837d ago
@ bitby I guess he means in the US because ofcourse thats the only place that matter /s

@DK286K
The xbox 360 price dropped back in 2010 and in 2009. ps3 dropped its price in what .. august of 2011?
My original point is its doesnt matter what either one do, they will drop their prices when ever they want.Ofcourse xbox will be the first to drop its price because it was the first to come out. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to realize that.
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Megaton  +   837d ago
Sony can't break the network effect that the 360 has, especially in America. That's why they keep trailing and that's why the 360 is having its best hardware sales of this entire generation when it's delivering the worst game lineup of damn near any console ever made. Hardly any exclusive games worth a crap since 2010, yet hardware is flying off the shelves. Sony likes to talk about "momentum", but Microsoft actually has it.
KonaBro  +   837d ago
LOL
Yes and that momentum has kept them in 2nd place even though they launched first.
mobhit  +   837d ago
...Yet another person with one too many bubbles and has no idea what they're talking about.

May I remind you that Nintendo is still in the lead. Microsoft hasn't won anything unless they bypass Nintendo.

I think Sony will cut the PS3 price soon but at a time where people least expect it.
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Megaton  +   837d ago
I love how you guys turn on and off Nintendo's existence like a light switch based on whether or not you're talking about Microsoft's sales.

Nowhere in my post did I say they "won" anything. They're simply not going to be overtaken by Sony. They will always stay a slim margin ahead. Sony almost had them a couple years ago when the gap was down to around 500k, but now it's back in the millions and continuing to grow. You guys can only deny reality for so long. Frankly, I didn't think you'd still be doing it for this long.

Sony's price cuts have had zero effect on Microsoft's hardware sales. They've proven that not only do their competition's price cuts not make a dent in their units moved, but neither does delivering nothing but terrible Kinect games. It's an anomaly how they manage to keep shifting so many units while doing so many other things wrong. A real testament to the network effect and over-aggressive advertising.
Drake117  +   837d ago
Kinect is what has been selling xboxes the last few year...its not an anomaly at all. Yes the hardcore gamer hates kinect and laughs at its lineup of games but the average gamer, families, or any one else buying video games loves the damn thing.
otherZinc  +   836d ago
I agree!

@Baodeus,
That above comment is the current comment of the year!

Spot on.

If SONY is beating 360 in "Worldwide" sales by "their (SONY'S) numbers"; why did SONY have a "Worldwide" price cut this past year?

SONY's numbers are shipped & they need to get rid of that stock thats sitting in warehouses around the world.
Cocozero  +   837d ago
Its incredible that MS managed to be the No.1 console last year without cutting price. In fact the 360 hasn't had a price cut in about 3 years now only new models so they must be raking in the $$$.

If they are smart they would cut the price of the 360 right before the launch of Halo 4 for another mega sales boost.
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CGI-Quality  +   837d ago
The 360 didn't sell the most to consumers last year. They shipped more, but the way I understand it, the PS3 sold more to consumers. Only source to go by in such a case is VG Chartz. Take that for what you will, but I don't know a more credible source.

OT: Perhaps he means the US / UK, because everywhere else, the PS3 sells more than the Wii and 360 weekly.
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Dlacy13g  +   837d ago
The only source to go by is what the companies themselves report...not VG Chartz...not NPD's ...but what Sony, Nintendo and MS have to say end of story. Their financial reports are the only true source. FULL STOP

edit: @CGI-Quality..."but I dont' know a more credible source"? How about the companies themselves and what they reported:

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

http://socialbarrel.com/xbo...
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room414  +   837d ago
dlacy doesn't understand the difference between shipped and sold to consumer apparently
k-dillinger  +   837d ago
umm well how is that possible ps3 fiscal cycle just ended on march 31 for 2011 so how did they outsell them last year when numbers for Sony weren't in yet jeez talk about stretching there numbers
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Wolfbiker  +   837d ago
I cant believe there are people missing out on all these great ps3 exlusives.
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xPhearR3dx  +   837d ago
Different people have different taste. Wii killed it this gen in sales, but for me personally, I'm not missing anything by not owning one.
Rhythmattic  +   837d ago
I understand what you are saying, but as much as WII sux, there are GAMES we are missing out on...

But for the fun of it...

Its a matter of "whats more important" to you as a gamer....

Zelda OR Halo

Mario OR Killzone

Easy really... Nontendo
antz1104  +   837d ago
...or they could multiplat and have both? Yeah, theres that too. EDIT: And by that I mean own multiple consoles, lol.
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Wolfbiker  +   837d ago
Nobody buys a console for multiplats....maybe multiplayer but not multiplats....that's mental.
SuperLupe  +   837d ago
Dude I have a PS3 and I didnt care for 99% of the PS3 exclusives that came out last year except for UC3. I mean Twisted Metal came out not too long ago and I still have to even read a review or watch a gameplay trailer for it.

I dont give a damn if a game is exclusive or not, as long as it appeals me thats where I'll go.

Its pretty clear that its the same for tens of millions of gamers (360 anw Wii only owners) and dont forget the millions of PS3 owners who dont buy PS3 exclusives but only play FIFA/Madden/COD.

Theres a reason why so many multiplats sell better on the PS3 than PS3 exclusives.
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mr_badhand  +   837d ago
Amen, exclusives are important but what is the point if they're not appealing.

Wii has the MOST exclusives out of all three systems, yet most of them are not what I would like to play.

Quality not quantity.
Imalwaysright  +   837d ago
If you really believe i what youre saying then why the hell are you buying consoles? Just build yourself a PC. Seriously buying consoles for multiplatforms is idiotic at most and i say this being mostly a console gamer. BTW i hope that you dont have a 360 as it would be a redundant piece of hardware to have and a waste of money,
AusRogo  +   837d ago
It might not sell more, but by god does the machine have some of the best exclusives! Proud owner since 07, and its still goin
wenaldy  +   837d ago
Amen.
mobhit  +   837d ago
Yep. I have nearly every PS3 exclusive in my library. I have all three uncharted games, all three Resistance games and both Little Big Planets.

So many exclusives to play....
Kran  +   837d ago
You cant say he's wrong about the price cut because the Xbox seems to get a slight price cut with every E3 anyway because it's getting older.
kriauciuniux  +   837d ago
Lol ,Patcher, when was his last right prediction.
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Rhythmattic  +   837d ago
I prefer my PS3, some people will/wont understand the fact

However, I have a dust box... For the record, Geow, the reason I have one.

And why cut the price?
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Dms2012  +   837d ago
I read that you like your Ps3, whats not to understand?
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andibandit  +   837d ago
I understand you prefer your PS3, i think the real issue is you dont understand why everyone dosnt have the same opinion as you.

I prefer my xbox for online gaming. Sure the PS3 gets the same DLC and fixes and barring the xchat it should be the same...but it's not.....PS3 is the last to get ANYTHING
DLC, PATCHES, HOTFIXES
and whats even worse PS3 gets the worst bugs on multiplats. Skyrim anyone?

by the time PS3 receives COD relates stuff, it's already old news. Mass Effect 3? yep PS3 didn't even get half of the Operations, and is last to received the new free multiplayer DLC....it's like living yesterday.
A few games get update simultaneously on PS3 and GOD FORBID, first on PS3.

So when my friends talk about "zOMG this new DLC is amazing" that's where i wanna be, not tomorrow, not next week or month, NOW!.

I perfectly understand why you prefer your PS3, i too think it has the best exclusives, but i still prefer to be where the buzz is. I think it's easy to understand maybe im just outside the norm.
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jp_footy2  +   837d ago
PS3 has already sold over 62 million and it's still $249+. I wonder how many it will sell in the next 4-5 years when it's $200 and below.
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smashcrashbash  +   837d ago
People always conveniently ignore that fact. Sony's system us still the most expensive and sold over 62 million. No system that has been more expensive then the others have EVER sold that much units. Higher price usually equals dropped system.Not this time.
M2-  +   837d ago
@smashcrashbash

That's not hard to explain. What does the PS3 have that the other consoles don't, I'll give you a hint

BLURAY!

Had HDDVD beaten Bluray or had the PS3 featured a standard DVD drive yet remained the most expensive system, the PS3 would be even further behind than it is now.

Being the most expensive system has hurt Sony this gen without a doubt.
Rainstorm81  +   837d ago
I hate when people use ifs and maybes to try and prove something, in the beginning yea maybe Blu-Ray was a factor on sales...But now,BR players are much cheaper and it makes no sense to buy a ps3 only as a blu ray player
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Nathaniel_Drake  +   837d ago
@M2

How can the PS3 be the most expensive system with a DVD drive instead of a Blu-ray.

And you are leaving out the most important variable for the gap, the 1-year head start which most likely would be less of a head start if they took out the Blu-ray drive
MrBeatdown  +   837d ago
@DK

As I've pointed out when you brought up that article before, it fails to take into account what is included with the many bundles being sold, therefore making it a relatively meaningless comparison of the actual price paid per console. The article even states NPD won't provide specifics on the reason for the sudden $26 jump in average price paid for a 360. Obviously Microsoft didn't up the price $26 for a standard console, hard drive, and controller combo.

If the article is simply finding the average price paid for all SKUs, it says nothing about the average price paid per console. For every person buying a $400 holiday 360 Kinect bundle with two games, there could have been someone buying a $350 Move bundle that doesn't include two games. Obviously, that $400 isn't going to the 360 alone. It's going to the 360, Kinect, and two games included. It makes no sense to expect that a bundle with less included would sale for just as much. This isn't an apples to apples comparison.

Plus, it's rather presumptuous of you to say the averages have remained the same, however, you don't even know for sure what caused the average 360 price to spike. How can you make the claim that the average price has remained high, yet you don't know why they were high to begin with?
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KYU2130  +   837d ago
If MS does a price cut across the board then you can expect a new console announcement by the end of the year. i would anticipate a $50 price drop by summer.
Lulz_Boat  +   837d ago
Lag? yep, that's whay it sell more than 360 globally EVERY WEEK.
Wolfbiker  +   837d ago
Clearly the US is the only market that matters

-______-
Rhythmattic  +   837d ago
Unfortunately, the rest of the world is discounted, just like the 360's 1 year head start in the US/UK, and the 18month head start in all other territories...

People call N4G a Sony haven, but back in 2007 , the general populous paid out, attacked and dumped on the PS3 and its owners...

Oh how the tide has turned.....

The PS3 has momentum, Why price drop....

PS: Thinking I might watch Dark Knight on BR then play online...K3? UC3? BF3?
dubt72  +   837d ago
Terrible movie, 1 great game, 1 okay game, 1 weak game...
torchic  +   837d ago
or maybe search for 1 of the 4 000 000 levels on LBP2 to play?

choices, choices...
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Rhythmattic  +   837d ago
Well, we all have our own measure of scale...

As for me , Great Movie, and great games.....

Whatever makes you happy ay?
hkgamer  +   837d ago
If I was MS/Sony I would not price drop yet... sales are pretty healthy, might aswell keep profit as high as possible.

@torchic

4,000,000 levels to choose from? I'm not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing...
Dms2012  +   837d ago
Dont be silly, if you really want to split hairs, Sony had an entire generation head start with the Ps1, all that time to build brand recognition and loyalty. And whos fault was it that the Ps3 launched much later than anticipated? Microsofts? So cry me a river over the year head start why don't you.
SuperLupe  +   837d ago
"Lag? yep, that's whay it sell more than 360 globally EVERY WEEK."

FALSE.

The 360 outsold the PS3 GLOBALLY in 2011. I know you and all those who agreed with you know that but think that if you ignore it, it may just become "untrue"

Heres the proof: http://n4g.com/news/933968/...

I wont ask you to provide any proof that the PS3 is outselling the 360 since ... well ... it doesnt exist.
pwnmaster3000  +   837d ago
The ps3 is outselling the 360 globally right now and its been sinse 2012 started.
Now maybe it will.change during the holidays like last year, but as of right now its outsell the 360 by a good amount each month.

Its always been like that. Last year was the first time 360 outsold the ps3 globally, cus with the help of the kinect.
But usually every year besides 2011 ps3 outsells the 360
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Brosy  +   837d ago
You're right superlupe bubbles to you for speaking the truth. Just don't expect to win any popularity contest on this sony cess pool website.
Lulz_Boat  +   837d ago
look at VGChartz
SleazyChimp  +   837d ago
@pwnmaster if it has out sold the box every year except last year why is it that in five years Ps3 has not caught Xbox in total sales?
pwnmaster3000  +   837d ago
Sleazychimp
So please explain, how a 8 million gap closes to 2-4 million gap.

The proof is in sales. Yeah 360 outsold the ps3 last year, but ps3 been beating it yearly for awhile.
If the ps3 wasnt outselling the 360 at all, the gap would of been 8 million plus still

Edit.
I find it funny how you guys hold on to last years sales to prove ps3 never outsold the 360 but fail to bring 08, 09, and 10
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cyclonus007  +   837d ago
The 2011 holiday season is what put MS over the top. Sony was beating them before that. The Black Friday bundles and offers MS put out gave them their 2011 victory by 900,000 units. A victory but an ugly one.
Inzo  +   837d ago
Of course M$ is going to make a price cut, they just cant keep up with the PS3, outside the US that is, and yes the US is not the world.
sly-Famous  +   837d ago
You are not allowed to say "US is not the world" it p!sses the ignorant on this site off! ;)
MaximusPrime  +   837d ago
FYI Pachter's prediction is solely on North American sale.

Some people on here may jump to a conclusion that he was referring to their country outside North America.
neutralgamer19  +   837d ago
Globally ps3 is killing the competition month after month. Remember ppl although you may live in N.A. and you think sales in other places do not matter it sure as hell does because profit for Sony is profit no matter where its coming from and that means more resources for games!!!! that we play!!!!!!
PixL  +   837d ago
More so, consoles are generally more expensive everywhere outside US. That means more profit to the manufacturer.
TheGamingArt  +   837d ago
People here don't think of the 'big' picture * sigh
SleazyChimp  +   837d ago
The good Ol U.S.A. might not equal the world, but we are the greatest nation in the world. I really don't care what console is selling the best, I'm sick of people knockin on the US like we're a bunch of dumb asses. We're not, we just don't give a shit!
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b_one  +   837d ago
Forgot Russia?
sly-Famous  +   837d ago
You see, its people like you who make it far too easy.
Grimhammer00  +   837d ago
I'm trying to figure out why fanboys love bringing up sales figures? Has it translated into more exclusive ips? Has MS graced you for your loyalty with any new ips?

I guess 360 peeps are happy with using their gaming box for all that social stuff & Xbox new tv stuff.

I'll stick with my ps3 thanks. I want to play games - not but into MS media hub first gaming 2nd box.
antz1104  +   837d ago
Lol, are you seriously scoffing at having a system that.....wait for it.....has multiple functions? Last time I checked PS3 has netflix and plays blurays. Kind of puts them in the same category even though not to the same extent.

I love games too, and I also love that both my systems cover all my media needs, and all from one place.
Dms2012  +   837d ago
I don't see many Microsoft fanboys talking about sales on this site, thought I would point that out.
ZeroWil  +   837d ago
Too busy playing games, watching Netflix, listening to Last.fm, etc.
testerg35  +   837d ago
Grim, huh? You haven't noticed that most of the comments are: "PS3 has been winning worldwide", "US is not the world", "PS3 has exclusives"? Are you on the right article?
jdktech2010  +   837d ago
By the way, if anyone was wondering if the n4g is a ps3 fanboy dominated site but just wasn't sure yet...I present this comment section as proof that yep it is.

Personally, I think MS has done a great job this gen and it's showed in their sales. Sony has a lot of great games that I've enjoyed as well so it's a win win for me.

I think it's real obvious that this gen is coming to a close next year anyway.
Mikhail  +   837d ago
Well, every site has its own bias. Well, N4G is mostly Sony partial but other sites are the same.
Consoldtobots  +   837d ago
I lol at all the whiners that cry about site bias, they obviously weren't around when these consoles launched and this place was a MS cheerleading section.
Mkai28  +   836d ago
This is why I stopped coming here, because every time I came to this web site all I saw on the front page was "why ps3 will dominate this gen" or "10 reasons why Nathan Drake rocks". What? Is this not called News For Gamers, but I see that it is more divers now then it was. I have a PS3 as well but I wan't to here other news.

TLR: http://thelegitreview.com/
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refocusedman  +   837d ago
Both are great systems, so I always have a very hard time understanding why 360 sells more than ps3. The games aren't necessarily better, to be truthful ps3 has a better choice of games. Don't get me wrong halo gears and fable are great but those games come out every few years. As for live, if most people are first time purchasers they havent developed a preference for either live or psn. As for people who are already claiming that this is a fanboy comment try not to be so reactive and read the entire comment. And i didn't mention forza because of gt.
Wintersun616  +   837d ago
Lol, Pachter.
manman6  +   837d ago
I think if the PlayStation 3 is going to release next year I think Sony would cut the price of PlayStation 3 at E3
Resistance_lord  +   837d ago
lol What?!
brew  +   837d ago
Pachter is only NPD focused though ... it seems as though the PS3 is the #1 selling console worldwide on a weekly basis in 2012 now that we are out of the holidays , and the worldwide software sales are also high for the PS3.

I actually think the 360 with a decent sized harddrive should be the system they gets a pricecut NOW. The 250 gig is $299 for gamers and then there's yearly online gaming fees on top of that ? Come on now Microsoft. That's some straight up BS.
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Raoh  +   837d ago
Or they can remove the hard drive restrictions and allow me to put in my own hard drive unlocked, its the same hard drive in a ps3 and a laptop but ms locks it down and charges you for less.

I can pop in a 750gb or 1tb drive in a 360 for under a hundred dollars but ms locks the partition, yeah, thanks ms, i'd rather pay you more for less.

am I right yall?

pay more for less pay more for less...

come on everyone chant with me, pay more for less pay more for less.
_Aarix_  +   837d ago
Yea thats one thing I hate about the 360 but thats why I bought a 250gb for $50 online and used a transfer cable and xplorer to restore the 2nd partition so I have backwards compadibility again.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   837d ago
Im sure both consoles will decrease the price eventually.
Nutsack  +   837d ago
Funny to read the comments of PS3 fans that the PS3 sold a lot more with one year less on the market...

But it doesn't matter. We're 6 to 7 years in this gen and the 360 is still 3mln. ahead in sales. I still remember how Sony thought they would beat the 360 sales numbers in the first year of the PS3. I've seen the PS3 fanboys say each year after that, that it would be the year the PS3 would get on par and get ahead of 360 sales, but its still 3 mln. behind.

And the thing is: MS is in control. MS can dictate pricing and thus spike sales, more so than Sony can. We've seen that the past years and we'll see that till the end of this gen.

Not that it really matters in the end, they both sold solid numbers and are viable to release 3rd party games on. The real interesting thing is which of them will release the next gen console and if 720/PS4 this time around have full backwards compatibility to have a large library of games available at launch.

It seems the 360 will keep same kind of CPU/PowerPC but more cores (16 cores was rumored) and the PS4 will make a switch from Cell to some AMD CPU. The 720 will have the best cards for full BC for 360 games that will get touched up by using its power and the PS4 might have more problems on that/have to use a software emulator. Or Sony will make the same mistake again and have no BC in the end.
asmith2306  +   837d ago
I can't imagine the next Xbox will have 16 cores, can you imagine the price of that? It would be huge.
Nutsack  +   837d ago
Its not like the next gen consoles release tomorrow, they'll release in 2013/2014. What has a huge price today, can be relatively cheap by then.

Furthermore in 2005, when the 360 got its triple core PowerPC CPU, it was high end. Heck, Apple left IBM/PowerPC CPU because they couldn't deliver to their wish of a triple core CPU as fast as they wanted and went Intel and then MS pwned Apple by getting the new PowerPC CPU.

It was really high end, and an expensive CPU when you wanted to buy a triple core CPU for your PC in 2005, still it had it on board. The PS3 had the special build Cell, not with real cores, but its multiple SPU's, also a very high end CPU.

Every couple of years the power of CPU/GPU can be multiplied by the factor 2 or 4 as seen in the past, cores will be about the same. They switched strategy from getting the highest Ghz in one core to multiple cores on a slightly lower speed to save energy and being able to still reach faster processing of tasks.

So 16 cores, yes it seems far stretched today, but might not be that strange in 2013/2014. For sure MS won't leave PowerPC and it'll have a lot more cores than it has now. Sony will leave Cell probably as it hasn't brought what they expected from it. On the other hand strange, because leaving the Cell will probably kill BC for PS3 games and will have devteams to have to start all over to get to learn the new CPU used while they just learned how to push the Cell...
cstyle  +   837d ago
'm hoping to see a price cut for both consoles. This gen turned out to be very succcessful for the xbox brand. They continue to dominate here in the US. I think its safe to say that they will come out ahead of sony when this gen is over. Sony didn't dobd either but they didn't dominate as many expected they would. Competition is a great thing for the industry though.
firelogic  +   837d ago
How is it lagging when it's outselling the 360 worldwide?
cstyle  +   837d ago
You need to check again because the 360 is selling better worldwide. Still, this is only MS 2nd console and they have come in a created a strong name brand while beating sony in the biggest game market. I don't think anyone expected that when you look at what happened with the first xbox.
Silly gameAr  +   837d ago
Do you have any of evidence that the 360 is selling better worldwide? Where are your facts?
GraveLord  +   837d ago
Ps3 outsells the Xbox 360 globally, week after week. So far this year it has an ~800k lead on the 360. The gap will keep growing this year until the holidays where it will go a little back down.

Worldwide > America
Dlacy13g  +   837d ago
What amazes me most about this generation of hardware is that if you look at the PS3 and 360, both have grown so much since their launch titles. We are seeing some amazing games and being very honest I think had these systems shipped with 1GB of RAM instead of the 512MB we would easily see this generation continue on for another 3 - 4 yrs.

I suspect we will see a $50 price cut to one if not both systems at E3 or just before and then come holiday more bundle and pack in options for each console to try and throw value for the dollar up against the new Wii U.
Clarence  +   837d ago
Title should read "360 sales continue to decline globaly price cut inbound."
The PS3 outsold the 360 in 2011 and continues to in 2012.
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brew  +   837d ago
It's possible that the 360 nipped the PS3 at the end with December sales last year. In 2012 so far , it's looking like the PS3 is top dog worldwide , kinda the way it was in 2011 for the majority of the year. The casual power wears off a little after the gift giving season.

I think we'll see a 360 priceut pretty soon , and then the PS3 will go down to $199 towards the end of the year.
cynosure  +   837d ago
Uh Why are people so misinformed around here.
Xbox 360 was the number one selling console of 2011

http://www.gameinformer.com...
Consoldtobots  +   837d ago
why are 360 fans so dense?
we all know the holiday push might have put the 360 over the Ps3 but what they are talking about is who sold better for most of the year. reading comprehension is not one of your better qualities.
GamingPerson  +   837d ago
THIS IS BECAUSE CASUAL GAMERS ARE TAKING OVER!
http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...
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Raoh  +   837d ago
Meh, most people I know ended up with about 3 xbox's.

1 pre warranty that RROD'd
1 to replace the dead RROD xbox
1 to upgrade since the original xbox 360 didn't have an hdmi port

Believe it or not a few friends bought an extra xbox to keep in the closet for when theirs eventually died.

Its really just the same people buying it over and over.

I myself ended u=p buying about 3, not actually spending the total cash but through some trade in deals and exchanges it counts as sold new at the register. I even had one that was modified, died, so i took it back and got a new one through gamestops warranty, that replacement showed up at the register as a new purchase.

And yes, sony kicks ms's butt globally, only most of us americans are silly enough to invest so much in a console that didn't initially work or lacked features and get this.. is proprietary, yes, people slam sony for proprietary cards but ms is more closed as a hardware/network/and os. can't use your own harddrives, can't use your own anything. Even hackers slammed apple and sony saying that they bought the hardware and should be able to do anything with it but still have yet to install XBMC on a 360. LOL

and they pay to get online, LOL, the AOL of consoles.

MS control is primarily financial meaning they throw money at everything, they threw money at devs and publishers threw money at warranty, threw money to dumb down competition offerings, and its the fanboys paying for it through gold.

Thing is if your not into halo or gears, there is nothing on that console except paying for something you get free every where else. games have been offering xbl features for years for free on pc but ms found dummies to pay for it on console. thanks aholes for making it acceptable.
testerg35  +   837d ago
So according to your numbers there's really only about 25-30mil 360s out there. Weird considering software sales don't reflect that.

"Even hackers slammed apple and sony saying that they bought the hardware and should be able to do anything with it but still have yet to install XBMC on a 360. LOL" - Not sure what you mean. So are you saying that since hackers were able to get Sony's hardware that its a good thing?

"MS control is primarily financial meaning they throw money at everything, they threw money at devs and publishers threw money at warranty, threw money to dumb down competition offerings, and its the fanboys paying for it through gold." - LOL.. so you think Sony doesn't pay for stuff?? Really?
honkyjesus  +   837d ago
I'm on my third, the other two are in garbage dumps somewhere.
Half-Mafia  +   837d ago
I find it funny as hell when people think the US market is the only market that matters. When you look at sales for 2012 so far the PS3 has sold about 2.7m. 800k is only from the US. When you look at the 360 so far this year 1.9m. 1m from the US.

Look at 2011

PS3 14M WW, 4.5M US
360 13.5M WW, 7.4M US.

The 360 depends on the US market a hell of alot more the PS3 & Wii does.

These are VGChartz numbers. Yes there not 100% correct but its a base to work with.
Dlacy13g  +   837d ago
Ummm...

2011
PS3 - 14.1 Million Worldwide as reported by Sony
360 - 14.9 Million Worldwide as reported by MS

Those numbers are fact... Sony and MS reported themselves... so save your VGChartz BS. I am sick of people trying to skew the factual numbers that both Sony and MS reported.

Now... as for 2012... no doubt PS3 is selling better WorldWide right now...they have always shown stronger sales early in the year compared to the 360. IF that continues then yes PS3 will outsell the 360 in 2012. The holiday season kicking off around the Sept time frame and through Dec. has been traditionally where MS performs really well. Maybe they will, maybe they wont this year. I hope both give price cuts this year though as it is time.
TKCMuzzer  +   837d ago
Surely both companies can only count what they have sold on to chains/shops etc. Getting full retail sales would be hard to come by as it would require thousands of businesses to pass on the relevant information which I imagine they don't have to do.
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ForROME  +   837d ago
Correct, go off what the companies report is as close to it as it gets

VGChartz LOL, people still rely on that site? Thought it died in 2005 along with a lot of others of the same caliber
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