Brett writes - ". I’ve kind of kept my mouth closed over this whole Mass Effect 3 incident because frankly, it’s stupid. If you want my opinion on it? Bioware worked damn hard to make a game they didn’t even have to make, but did. (Cont)
for a guy who claims to have lept him mouth closed on the matter. should have continued doing so instead of trying hard to get hits on a matter that won't change anything. if any it's just going to make people pirate their game even more or just stop buying anything bioware makes.
I agree. People complain all the time that devs do not listen to the gamers. Bioware is making something free of charge just because of a fan outcry to our beloved series. This should be praised not looked down upon. Most devs would not care what we think. Kudos Bioware and EA for allowing it to happen.
the people bitching about people bitching have lost. I've read a few of these Bioware vs. the Fans articles and I have to say, good on people who actually respect the storyline enough to make a fuss. I think everyone who called gamers, who have a passion for the series; "entitled", "brats", "whiners", etcetera-etcetera need a nice boiling cup of STFU and to get ready to enjoy that FREE ending, courtesy of the "whinning, entitled, brats" :) thx gamers. <3
Bubbles. While it's a little overboard to file class action lawsuits like some, the fact that there was such an uproar should be an indicator of how adored the series was and how the ending was clearly a quick fix after the original ending was leaked late last year and didn't do the series justice.
I dont think they should have bothered making an extended ending or whatever. It was there artistic vision.. if the fans didnt understand there ending or were unhappy with it then who gives a damn. Listen to reviews and dont buy the game if u feel the entire experience is ruined because u dont like their creative vision. They put the money up to make this ending... when a single fan puts up millions of dollars for the game as an investor... then he has the right to complain... if a fan puts up 60.. then the only thing he has the right to do is save his money and not buy the game. These so called fans need to get over themselves and their strange entitlement issues. Build your own game.. write your own story. Losers.
Whine whine whine Artistic integrity whine whine whine. You actually don't know what you are talking about. Go back to beings EA's good little consumer.
i actually never bought the game. So guess im not EAs consumer.. u still are though haha... and ur the one thats angry. I hate mass effect.. though i watched the ending and i liked it. Maybe u need someone to explain it to you dummy... since u dont understand it. lol. Im not whining myself.. I just cant understand how any logical person could even change someone elses story. If you read a book and dont like the end do you petition the author to change the ending? If you dont like something about a movie .. do u threaten to sue? I would think someone would have sued the resident evil films director for not making a real resident evil film by now lol... false advertisting right? lol... Im just saying .. all this changing of someone elses hard work and ideas is just stupid. Grow up. Maybe I dont like the way your comment ended... i think u should change that too lol...
What a smug comment. Man, you're totally above everybody else. You totally have it figured out while it's going over us mere peasants' heads. You're on a video game website. You're a consumer. Hell, you're probably an EA consumer otherwise you wouldn't be getting all rowdy over a Mass Effect article. "Be a good little consumer." Don't forget the Guy Fawkes mask on the way out.
How again am i a consumer for ea if i do not buy ea products. And the way i look at it not everyone cares about the ending.. in fact most articles seem to be questioning why fans can develop a mob mentality on a game that did them a favor by making it. They should have made the ending one big dream so part 1 never took place.. that would give the middle finger straight to those so called false fans. The ending could have been way worse.. And you know what.. theres nothing wrong with bitching about how much u hate ending.. the ending however is not yours to change.. the story was never yours... so it is wrong to try to make someone else change their vision... espeacially through legal means, which is just rediculous. I do hope the ending doesnt change.. they just explain it with an extra scene. I am however a game developer so .. yes.. this bothers me to see such mindlessness. And if I sound smug to you.. its cause im using something called logic... logic is usually undenyable. You go ahead with the name calling though... that works since you cant explain your reasoning like i can.
@Kurylo3d Never bought the game = Not knowing what you are talking about. You are delusional if you think books, movies, and games, aren't changed because of feedback ALL the time. You really think "artistic integrity" matters when you try to sell something? Wake up. The fact you call yourself a game dev makes your comment even more ridiculous. Go ahead disregard fan feedback and see what it gets you. Go ahead make a pile of crap and see how many people buy your "artistic integrity". Don't like how my comment ended? well if you paid for my comment I would certainly listen to your feedback and if making a change will ensure you will keep buying my comments then I will consider doing so. However, since I am generously providing my comment free of charge I can tell you to shove it. Make sense?
I'm sick of these stupid articles. Quit complaining about the complainers. @Dno The issue is the problems still aren't being addressed. They're sticking to the original ending. Which was retarded, hence the mass complaining by fans.
I'm sick of people like you, quit making complaints regarding the people complaining about the people making complaints!
Heh, I see what you did there...and now you're complaining about people like me who complain about the people who complain about the people who make complaints.
I've been standing up for Bioware's rights as artists through this whole thing. For that reason, I want people who agree with me to stop acting like Bioware is completely whoring out their story to whining fans, because then I look like an idiot by proximity. Bioware is only promising to add to their ending with closure for characters and some better explanation of what the hell happened. at least, that's what it sounds like right now. Besides, it's similar enough that the more indignant fanboys are still whining about it, and that, to me, is becoming a good sign.
Bioware did not lose. They actually won. They made ME3 for the gamers and fans. Now they made a new ending for the whiners. Basically they covered everyone, win-win
Actually this is victory for us gamers... DEVS need listen you fanbase, and this is a fact.
what if the fan base is split down the middle? What about the people who liked the ending.. but now suddenly might hate the new one? There is no pleasing everyone.. the fanbase is not even united @ below.. my only point is it really doesnt matter if its a bad ending. many games have had worse endings.. they shouldnt be trying to make someone elses life a living hell by taking them to court in order to get a stupid video game story change.
there isn't going to be a new ending. all they are doing is expanding on it which they should have from the get go. i agree with the gamers on how they feel about how Bioware have misled them and made them feel like their choices in the series mattered when in fact it didn't. the problem i have is with articles like this (which is clearly for hits) and gamers screaming "Entitlement" or "gamers are whiny" is because if you go to Bioware forum the people there are civil. but when you have article like these and gamers trying to complaining about whiners aren't helping the matter at all and if anything makes people more upset. But i do agree that gamers aren't united. which is a reason why developers and publisher do the thing they do and feel they can get away with it. which with probably be a reason why we will be paying $65 for a incomplete game and be nickle and dime into paying for a complete game.
nobody liked the ending though. :(
This has Nothing to do with Bioware or EA to do this for gamers, this is more about the reputation that has been damaged from Mass Effect 3, they covering there holes. Also this is announced a day after being voted the worst company in USA.
not all endings are happy
So, they aren't really making a NEW ending, just fleshing out some of the epilogues and trying to offer a little more clarity as to the fates of the characters, races, and such. Why would that be considered losing? I think losing would be putting out more paid DLC and ignoring the requests of that many fans. Did that fan donation campaign really raise around $35,000 for charity to get Bioware to take them seriously? Impressive if true.
It raised 80,000 before being shut down.
I only finished me2, me3 ce is wisely waiting near my pslim . While I can understand people have the right to like or dislike something... ... I think its a bit exaggerated, how some guys do react. I mean, its like you asking a rich and gentle guy if he can offer you a Ferrari, a green one, with 30 options. The guy will work hard, and 2 years later, the guy bought you a ferrari, with the 30 options you asked.but, the guy thought yellow wouldn't be that great, and he decides to go red. You get your Ferrari, and start posting comments on forums, offending the constructor, you walk in the street, and tell people your were fooled and betrayed by the rich guy, because you wanted a yellow Ferrari, and.got a red one. Damn, fuck the color, you still had your Ferrari !!! All the opinions and arguments taken into account, and even if people still believe that whining is legitimate, damn, bioware still - made an incredible awesome game - made an incredible sequel - listened to fans feedback(for example, no more boring planet exploration) - completed a trilogy that will remain in people's mind, until they get alzeimer - made me3 better than me2, in every aspect - gave people 150h of joy, that most gamers will probably only experience once, in their life - promised a trilogy and MADE a trilogy. - will certainly continue or start a new trilogy, based on mass effect world, on ps4/360 - respected gamers at least 100 times more than, for example, craptivision, the cod milk factory Ok guys, even if you still think you have the right to whine,(you do what you want, its your lives), just stop 10 seconds, and ask yourself which any other game/trilogy gave you 150 hours of happiness, and let you control and choose your actions, like mass effect did. Which one? WHICH ONE? Ok, thanks for your answer...
1. I agree with you. 2. Skyrim has given me 150 hours of greatness (on xbox, as the ps3 freezing thing would have driven me insane.
I guess those of us who grew up in th Clint Eastwood era just have to get used to this whiny Twilight generation...oh, and emo, can't forget that...
I'm not a fan of the series, so I didn't buy ME3, but from what I've heard from other gamers, is the Bioware lost because they lied. What bothers me is that gamers are being called whiners because they're unhappy at being cheated. If anything, I commend the gamers who had the guts to stand up to being cheated. (However this doesn't mean I condone those who went too far and started harassing Bioware.)
I dont think Bioware mentioned that everything you do in the 3 games will affect the ending completely, what they mentioned many times is the actions of first 2 games will affect the 3rd game in some ways. They should get the freedom to have a linear ending if they want to. The first 2 games choices do come through in some way or another in the 3rd part. I played ME3 without any imported save and liked the game very much. Now Im playing the game with a Paragon save from 1 and 2 and wow there are some positive changes and you can see they do come through, it doesn't have to happen right at the end. Its just a minority of gamers who saved their masterbating moment to the end of the game. Now they want a wank from Bioware.
Despite what people think of the "whiners", the endings are bad. Objectively bad on so many levels that an entire group of fans were convinced it was all a dream. I kid you not. To them there was no way BW could screw up that bad. I could go into all the details as to why the ending was horrible, but it would take way too long and would be filled with spoilers. If you really want to know why the majority of fan hate the endings you find plenty of videos on youtube explaining it. If not, well enjoy those 16 epic endings.
I have not played it yet if they change one thing i will not finish the series as i will be to pissed the whingers influenced it a holes.
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