Recent reports indicate that Sony is aiming to ship its next gen home console code-named 'Orbis' to the market before the next Xbox. If this is indeed true, it will be a very smart move from Sony.
i wonder if this is why the rumored specs are so low?
@ slavish Aren't the PS4 specs very similar to the rumored Durango (Source: http://n4g.com/news/973893/... )? But if we're to go off of those specs, the next PS4 console should be way cheaper than the Ps3's launch price. Sony launching a little earlier is also a plus in my book if nothing is sacrificed, especially if big launch games are there.
Well even with does rumor specs dont expect the PS4 and the next Xbox to be way cheaper than what the existing consoles were when relesed 5 years ago.
Whether they come out a day or week or month before the 720 isn't the issue. If they both come out holiday 2013, then that'll be great for Sony. Its biggest disadvantage aside from its starting price point was its year late release, although it was a better built system. Both systems will be great to own but as far as "winning" the next gen race, releasing the system the same time, if not slightly sooner, against their biggest competitors is important. I just hope they don't take shortcuts JUST to get an earlier release. That wont benefit us!
I really don't see the PS4 and Nextbox selling at a launch price of over $399. I think that's a great price for starting the next generation, and the Wii U shouldn't launch at more than $299 (less if the rumors of it being only on par with PS3 and 360). Since hardware doesn't seem to be the huge innovation for next-gen it looks like software, OS, and gimmick will be the selling point of these consoles. I'm anticipating this E3 and the next.
I think both will launch at $399 too. APUs are much cheaper than two separate chips. It's one chip for the price of two. So that alone makes the machine much cheaper. Add that the die size is far cheaper and the chips themselves will be less expensive. The number of chips that you can get on each wafer plays a huge role in the cost of the chips. Going to 32nm or 28nm chips from 90nm is a huge savings. Add the fact that it is one less chip also. Bizzel I agree with you on the Wii U price. I disagree on the power of the new systems though. I believe the rumors of the Wii U being 3 or 4 times the power are true. And the PS4 and Next Xbox will be much stronger than that. I believe the next Xbox will also use at least one of the GPUs for computing. Maybe some kind of ray casting set-up. Two separate machines according to that last rumor. Or maybe really a a dual core HSA machine with two APUs. Look up HSA on AMD Fusion chips.
Sure it would be smart to beat Microsoft's next console to market, but Msoft will release an unfinished console to market if it means being first, that they proved when they released the 360 to unbelievably high defect rates and overheating issues that they never bothered to fix for years on end.
they don't have to rush the hardware and other stuff just to launch first.
I don't want a Wii or Wii U knock off to be honest. I want to see a jump in almost everything but on the other hand, I don't want to end up paying $600 either. SONY and MS need to balance the price versus hardware ratio smartly.
To be honest, I have a feeling that, in terms of power, both next-gen consoles will most likely end up very similar, just like we have now. The things both MS and Sony have inevitably learnt from this gen are: 1) Getting a lead in the race is a BIG advantage 2) Making consoles easy to develop for is imperative as third party titles really have come to their own this gen (in terms of quality and importance) 3) Its not just power of the consoles that will be their defining feature, but the way we interact with the games- so hardware in terms of motion controls or whatever that distinguishes this gen from the next. Either way I'm happy. My PS3 and Xbox 360 have given me some amazing experiences. No doubt the next-gen will get even better. And I love the competition between the two. In the end, theoretically, the consumer wins(notwithstanding rumours of lockouts on 2nd hand games, DLC culture and increased price of games offloaded to the consumer amongst other things)
Next Gen Jump in power will not be as big as this gen, better go moderate and make easy for the people to buy the console rather than ask $600 for it which is insane right now, sure Sony and MS know that already, although MS can go nuts with power and subiside the console
I really don't understand the people that keep bringing up the 360 being rushed and somehow applying that to the next Xbox. MS announced that they had been working on the next Xbox before the 360 launched. Since '04. It's now '12 and the average console life cycle is usually 5 years but some think the next Xbox might be a rush job. 9 years is not rushed. RRoD was a really bad thing but get past the headlines. Or are some too big of a fan of one company that they stopped thinking completely. Again, 9 years is not rushed. Sikbeta I disagree. A 7 series ATI GPU is a huge jump over a 19xx series ATI GPU. And rumors are there will be dual GPUs. That is an even bigger jump. The Xenon in the 360 was Power4 based. We are approaching Power 8. Even if the next Xbox core is Power7 based, that is a huge jump over Power4. Just from the standpoint of having 4 threads per core instead of the 2 in the Xenon. There will be a major upgrade. Plus I believe the next Xbox will have HSA and that will be an upgrade over current PCs.
I have a sneaky feeling that the new Xbox is going to be much more powerful than the new PS4. Check this out. I know.. I know... hard to believe on a paste bin.. but it is interesting to see that he was right about BOTH consoles code names, and now the PS4's 4 core CPU as well, and the paste bin thing was post back in December of last year. Interesting reads at this link about next gen IF true... http://pastebin.com/j4jVaUv...
That was the very first Durango and Ps4 rumors right (December 2011 lol)? I'm quoting IGN/Kotaku's recent PS4 and Durango specs where specs in both consoles are basically the same. Edit: @ Megaton below The next MS console was rumored (first btw) to use anti-used game technology. Don't know why you tried to confirm that for the PS4 lol.
Nope.. Durango name was revealed this year. 2012 in Feb. Not sure loling. http://kotaku.com/5885539/t... That link I originally post is from December last year, and Orbis was just announced this month. So ya. That paste bin has been right about 3 things so far, and was post months before they came out in main stream news. Don't get me wrong.. I know it's hard to believe.. but as of yet.. NOTHING revealed has been wrong. He was right about Durango... Orbis.. and now the PS4 having a 4 core CPU. If that paste bin is true.. wow, what a find. Like finding gold out in the hills or something.
Wait, wait and stop! right there, dead in your tracks.. "The PS4 will feature a 4-core 32-bit processor." So your telling me that PS3 with it's 64 bit processes is going to downgrade to a 32 bit chip. Smelly, smelly BS.
@Neo Geo... I'm not telling you anything. I'm just posting a link to a past bin file, that someone post on my site, and I thought it was really interesting. It would be crap if nothing was right. So now we have Durango announced... Orbis announced, and now talk of PS4 having a 4 core cpu.. just like the file bin says. You have to admit. For a file bin article to be post in December of 2011, and to have both code names correct on the consoles, and now be correct about a rumored 4 core CPU for the PS4... that's not bad being 3 for 3 so far. Just remember this thread if or when it's announced that the new Xbox comes with a 500 gig HD, or the being connected 24/7 thing. It's going to get interesting up in this mutha!
If you go to the NeoGAF forums, they have taken that pastebin and gone over it 100s of times now. The only thing that is right about those rumors are the names. Everything else is bs.
HOLY POOP!!!! Thanks for the links!
Calling bs on that, noway ps4 is not having HDD n no DX11 support especially when their going with AMD, and no he wasn't right about ps4 4 core cpu because nobody knows what it is, if you read the rumour they didn't believe it either n state it will be something higher by time of release.
I call BS on this BS, several developers have already come out to say the specs are very similar with the PS4 being slightly more powerful than the next xbox. This post is stupidly naive if the writer thinks anyone believes that bullshit.
While some things might be true there are some very clear flaws in this article. 1. 64-bit CPU. Everything is 64-bit including AMD's new APUs. 2. Four core AMD CPU is vastly different than 4 core or even 32 core PowerPC CPU. If you know nothing of CPUs you will not understand this, but that is understandable. 3. Hard Drive. A system that has a network to download files from that doesn't have a hard drive is a failure. Will not exist without one. With more focus on digital content in the future. You honestly think it won't have one? 4. RAM. 2 or 4 GB. Can change overnight before launch. Really not a factor. Once one sees the other have more they will add more if that is the case.
I don't know why it'd be hard to believe when the last gen xbox was 4 times more powerful than the Ps2. This gen was quite even. Who knows which will be more powerful next gen?
@fatgayandbald why would the ps4 have direct x support when direct x is ms owned they would be breaking copywrite laws if the did try to use it.
Looks like Prince Dim Lu's paste bin source was right about another thing. Well, maybe not right, but another of the things said from that paste bin has light shed on it today. http://www.vg247.com/2012/0... New Xbox is going to use Blu Ray. Just like the paste bin file says.
There has been too many rumors thrown around latley its ridiculous. Can't wait till we hear some real news from MS and Sony. Fingers crossed this E3 is going to be massive. And I hope Sony doesn't rush the next console. I hope both companies iron out hardware problems before launch, (i'm looking at you MS).
So low?? Well i guess if you want to pay $700 to $900 they can make a special console just for you!The rumor specs are just fine for a close system like a console!
In 2006 and 2005 the PS3 and the xbox came out with cutting edge . The had the best of the best. There is no way with a $75 graphics card we're going to get 1080p 60fps standard not with this. If this and the anti used game policy comes into play then I guess I'll go PC permanently. If I have to use the same for 6+ years to play the games I then I demand cutting edge even if I have to pay a pretty penny.
@slavish did you by any chance read the article you just commented on?I see no relations to the rumored specs.. OT I honestly dont think it matters if they release first or last.Because, on a marketing standpoint it would be smart to have that early momentum however if the hardware is faulty it could be a stupid marketing move.So if they arent 100% sure the hardware will work,they should take their time with it and if this gen is any indication of future sells, they can afford to do so.
Low? They're much more powerful than the PS3 and Wii U specs and even the rumored Xbox 720 specs. It's powerful enough and affordable to last 5+ years.
ehhh i guess is nice going first but i think sony should launch the ps4 a couple of months after the next xbox. You get more attention when your the new kid on the block. IMO sony is in great position to gain the gaming market back next gen. Both consoles sound cheap and the factor that will defferentiate that will be exclusives. Can't wait to see how this turns out.
They'll both be doing a very close launch,I'd say within 2 months of each other. I almost guarantee MS/XBOX will release September 2013. Sony not sure but i'd guess either july or august 2013 if they really want to go first, but just my opinion.
who cares?? im happy with my PS3
@slavish Google 7670m (AMD radeon mobility gpu) Watch some youtube gameplay it may seem low but actually its a bg step up to the gpu mobile gpu in consoles this gen, and first real step into Pc visuals low end maybe but still better. No jaggies Better hopfully fov Richer textures shadows better lighting DX 11 witch means you now get a taste of tessalation And last of all a increase in frame rate dependng on games of course.