Ubisoft: WW2, Japan and Egypt are "the three worst settings for an Assassin's Creed game"

OXM writes: "Thanks to Mass Effect 3 and the Devil May Cry reboot, there's been a lot of talk lately about whether fans should have a say on the direction a videogame series takes. We're generally of the mind that the last word belongs with developers - but we will admit to sticking out our lower lips when Ubisoft's Alex Hutchinson, creative director of Assassin's Creed 3, told us that he'd hate to set an Assassin's Creed game in feudal Japan. What?"

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Snookies122449d ago

Well that's him... I'd personally love to see feudal Japan Assassin's Creed. That would most likely be a day one buy for me, and that's considering I love the series for the most part, but have never bought one on release day. :\

360GamerFG2449d ago

Right?? What does the creative director of the game know anyway??

SilentNegotiator2449d ago

I don't care if he's a master wizard with clairvoyance of the future. Assassin's Creed set in Japan could absolutely work.

WW2 would be too cliché. It's not that it couldn't be done, it's just BEEN done.

hellzsupernova2448d ago

so assassins creed has been done set in ww2? when? i cannot think of a ww2 game even remotly similar i oculd be wrong

QuodEratDemonstrandm2448d ago

So WWII is too cliche but feudal Japan isn't?
The whole reason Assassin's Creed features Nizari Ismaili is that, as cool as they are, the Ninja have been Done To Death.
There are enough video games featuring at least one ninja that a list of them merits a separate wiki article. And, apparently, the cliche has progressed to the point that people think an Orange Jumpsuit is appropriate ninja attire (see Naruto).

PhantomT14122448d ago

It's his first Assassin's Creed...
Also, lead writter Corey May is thinking about feudal japan (near the end of the vid):

VanillaBear2448d ago

Didn't someone at Ubisoft say a WW2 setting would be good. I'm sure it's when they were talking about a female Assassin years ago, saying how it would be set in London when all the men have went to war and the city is mostly women.

aCasualGamer2448d ago (Edited 2448d ago )

I would love to see an Egypt setting. Just imagine, the time when the pyramids and other monuments were built you could see a young Assassin parkouring his way through those wooden build stands. Maybe they could add a story surrounding the economy of that time and how the pharaohs managed to build these monuments without going bankrupt. Maybe we could see some ceremonies where mummification took place. The Pharaoh being the final boss battle, it would be a memorable game. The glyph puzzles could be to decifer hieroglyphs. Or imagine playing in this setting when Caesar and Cleopatra were still alive. Unlocking the mysteries surrounding all those events. Playing nearby the Nile river would be amazing!

Japan would also be a great setting considering the unique architectural design of ancient Japanese buildings, many parkour possibilities. Imagine being a samurai assassin or a ninja! Throwing knives, ninja style!

WW2 is a setting too close to modern warfare which basically means, without hardcore guns... you're fu**ed! And it would take away the parkour element of the game.

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Nimblest-Assassin2449d ago

WW2 has been done to death by shooters.

Egypt, although it sounds cool at first. Whats their to scale? Present day egypt would make more sense, but you would be moving through deserts and very small towns of low leveled builings... it would not work.

Not sure why he opposed Japan, because out of the 3, it would have worked pretty well.

But India does sound kinda cool...

Akiba962449d ago

WW2 has been done to death by shooters, but it is still a really cool setting.In stead of another shooter in WW2, I'd really love to see a more emotional take on the war. It would be kinda like heavy rain but set in WW2 on the front-lines. Your walking from foxhole to foxhole in the cold forests of Bastogne, shaking the dualshock to keep your character warm, then mortars start flying and you have to use the same Heavy Rain controls to remove some shrapnel from some guys chest while he's screaming in pain, and you really don't wanna let him die because you've grown attached to his character. Kinda like a video game version of band of brothers where you get emotionally attached to the characters and have to make decisions on the fly and execute to keep the various characters alive. But I digress lol.

Grap2449d ago

"low leveled buildings"
hahahahaha yah like USA have the tallest building in the world hahahaha

Nimblest-Assassin2448d ago


There are a lot of trees... their are low level buildings in America, but at least they thought around it by implementing trees.

What can you climb in egypt, pyramids and sphinx that are apart by a large distance?

Or would you like to parkour sand dunes?

arjman2449d ago

Katanas, Naginatas, Monks, Ninjas, Assassins, etc...

Assassins Creed in the times of the Samurai would be amazing.

GroundsKeeperJimbo2449d ago (Edited 2449d ago )

As cool as all that sounds, its an assassin game not a ninja game. I feel that is the main reason they don't want to do it.

In my mind: It would be awesome if the ninja's were opposed to the assassins cause, but that'd make no sense because, outside of the masters, most ninja's were farmers/peasants. That leaves the Samurai but them seem more Templar than anything. I guess they could be competing for the same targets, but then they'd be working together.

I guess what I'm saying is they want to stay separate from ninja themes and have there own lore fit better; hence a different setting.

ginsunuva2449d ago

At above^^

Ninjas are Japanese assassins.

White people culture has stereotyped them as retarded black-clothed monkeys.

GroundsKeeperJimbo2449d ago (Edited 2449d ago )

Yea... because that is what I said?

Here is a wiki article for you on arguing, please read and see how it applies to your comment.

Sony3602448d ago (Edited 2448d ago )

There's alot of things that fans don't take into consideration when it comes to games design.

The developers do, and know what they're talking about.

arjman2448d ago (Edited 2448d ago )

Ok get this, we know that the samurai were noblemen right? Some may say they were corrupt noblemen. What if the samurai were the templars of Japan, trying to seize control of the empire and the setting of the game took place during the Meiji period.
As an assassin or ninja (since they're both perfect assassins of their cultures) the emperor could task your order with the job of killing the remaining samurai 'templars' who have been inciting rebellion in the public. Which leads to the fall of the samurai and the unification of Japan, defeating the templars.

Or they could go for a last samurai type story where the assassins are samurai trying to fight off the western powers and the corrupt Japanese clan leaders. This fight could go on through the Boshin wars and Satsuma Rebellions leading to a massive war on the modernisation of Japan. The end result could be a desperate last stand by the assassins/samurai ending in defeat and a templar victory (I think the good guys have won too many times in this series).

I guess the moral of the story is that I want a video game (either Assassins Creed or a Red Dead style story) based on The Last Samurai and Feudal Japan :)

Think of an assassin fully kitted out in Japanese themed assassin gear (armor choices such as Samurai armor or Ninja clothes) with dual hidden wakizashis or tantos, a hidden matchlock gun, a katana as the melee weapon, a no dachi or naginata as the heavy weapon and throwing stars for thrown weapons. Tell me that doesn't sound amazing :)

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omi25p2449d ago

Id love Assassins creed Tudor times.

Nugan2449d ago

I think Hutchinson's point wasn't so much that you couldn't set an Assassin's Creed game in these setting, as it was that WWII, Egypt and Ancient Japan have been done to death by previous games.

Maybe we haven't had this type of game in those settings before, but there are a lot of places and times that video games haven't touched at all, and it would cool to be able to experience them.

I know the Revolutionary War setting has me a lot more interested in AC3 than I was before.

RayRay362448d ago

He's just sayin that because that's what conventional thinking points to. I remember an employing saying there might be feudal Japan in the future. Both Japan and Egypt would work and he knows that, idk about WW2 though.

Simon_Brezhnev2448d ago

I rather it be in warring states period China. Japan settings had been done a lot just not as much as WW2.

MostJadedGamer2448d ago

Totally agree with Ubisoft. Ubisoft wants, and needs to cover fresh settings that haven't been covered or that haven't been covered much.

Don't cover settings that have already been done to death, but keep cover ettings that haven't been done or rarely been done.

MostJadedGamer2448d ago (Edited 2448d ago )

Japan is one of the last historically settings I want to see in a AC game. That would not be good. We don't need another Samurai, or Ninja game

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GoldenAge2449d ago

I can think of worst settings than Japan, Egypt, and WW2.

dirigiblebill2449d ago

Shetland, Wisconsin and Milton Keynes.

Slient Knight 92449d ago

whats wrong with milton keynes

dirigiblebill2449d ago

Well for starters, it wasn't here 100 years ago. Any takers on the idea of a present-day AC? Set in a two-storey town?

Ness-Psi2449d ago

Add croydon to that.. oh and lower stowcroft.

SilentNegotiator2449d ago (Edited 2449d ago )

lol, Assassin's Creed: Wisconsin. I can see the back of the box already; "Make cheese, deliver phony doctor's notes, and assassinate the governor! Over 65,000 sq miles to explore!*

*(64,000 sq miles are voids and summer camps)"

Septic2449d ago

lmao @ Milton Keynes. Ah you legend

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Son_Lee2449d ago

South America - Mayans. That would be a good setting. Roaming through jungles, climbing temples, etc.

DragonKnight2448d ago

Now that's something to get behind. But this creative director needs to shut up. The only reason a setting could be the worst is if the creative director sucks at making it good. Egypt I can see skipping only because it'd be similar to the Holy Land in AC1 and Constantinople in AC2. But thinking an era America is better than Japan is just stupid. Just because a setting hasn't been done much, doesn't mean it will be a good setting or refreshing. Hell, that's probably one of the reasons it hasn't been used.

This idea that you can't do a game in Japan because ninjas are apparently cliche is ignorant. For one, where is it stated ninjas couldn't be the Assassin's guild of Japan? The goals are compatible. The Assassin's Guilds of the world fight against corruption and tyranny. Ninjas were peasants fighting for the same reason. The artistry of Japanese architecture would be amazing to explore in an open world game and there is so much history there.

Or why not China with more history than that. Simply put, this creative director probably sucks and wouldn't know how to make the setting work. His idea is to bring the series closer to the Present day and place more emphasis on firearms that completely take away from the spirit of the gameplay the series began with. Slowly stalking and silent killing your pray. In this game, Connor's (hate that name) main weapons are a tomahawk and a pistol. What's next? Take away any melee altogether in favor of ranged?

This guy is a nutcase if he thinks Japan is a bad setting for an AC game.

-Gespenst-2449d ago

I agree WW2 and Japan would suck. They're done to death really.

Eygpt however could be cool. Perhaps a little too ancient though...

MrBeatdown2449d ago

I was going to say the exact opposite.

WW2 Germany in particular sounds great. I keep picturing Call of Duty: World At War's levels, but with an assassin jumping around in the background.

RememberThe3572449d ago

I agree with WW2 and Egypt was cool about 4000 years before the first AC. Egypt fell to the Roman Empire in the first century AD. I'd like to see a game of AC caliber take on Ancient Egypt but I don't think the AC lore goes back that far.

Japan on the other hand would be pretty cool. We've seen other games do feudal Japan but none that have captured to detail and authenticity that Ubi brings with AC. However it's probably precisely because other games have been set in feudal Japan that Hutchinson doesn't want the series to go there.

Bimkoblerutso2449d ago (Edited 2449d ago )

It kind of makes me think they wanted to avoid the backlash the setting would inevitably bring from the thriving weeaboo culture we have here in the West, complaining about "historical inaccuracy" this and "westernization" that. You know...typical otaku BS.

SolidSystem2448d ago

that's possibly true about the lore. The lore is pretty biblical. and without any real signs of things like "the ones who came before" and other Christian religious ties in Egypt, it would be hard to pull it together. (no apple of eden etc). while the assassins were world wide, I'm not sure how the greater story would carry on.

while the Japanese could be aiding, none of the cultural backdrop really fit.