Crytek GM Nick Button-Brown has said that “PC is our next-generation” and that they’re already ‘way ahead’ of other next-generation platforms.
Problably still wont beat Uncharted 3
Hmm? Crysis 1 maxed on pc beats uncharted 3. The hard evidence is there ladies and gentlemen. It's not just a opinion. There is a reason these pcs are $3000 and the 6 year old consoles are only $300. So if you want to show your console fanboisim and your lower iq, then please hit the disagree button. If your just a console gamer you can't notice these things by just watching youtube videos because the compression really kills the quality. I used to think unchrated 2 and 3 where just as good as any pc game, until I got a pc, sat on it playing bf3 for a month, and then tried to pick up uncharted again. I mean the game looks good, but when comparing it to the pc it truley is almost a generation behind. My mind was blown, textures that I used to think looked amazing looked like crap compared to my time on the pc.
You mean medium settings @1280*720 beats uncharted.
$3000? You can build a rig for a round $500 that will blow consoles away with ease
Yopu can get 3000 quid Pc's that blow Consoles out of the water. You can get 700 quid PC's that will also blow consoles out of the water. Just that the 3000 PC also blow the 700 PC's out of the water...if you know what I mean. Any gaming PC that costs 700(including Windows 7 etc) will destroy the consoles Now. 5 years makes that big of a difference. Even just 2 years makes a massive difference. Not even two years. 8800GTX > Consoles. That came out the same year as Ps3. Then each year...new one releases and the gapo keeps getting bigger. Anyhow, you only 'need' a 700 doller PC to High-Max(depending on what FPS you want) most games out now for PC.
i'd say i'm in disbelief at andibandit's comment...but that's par for the course for most ppl on this website. people are simply willfully ignorant. they LOVE not knowing anything. it allows them to make blind statements like that. reminds me of liberals. "UNCHARTED 3 IS THE BEST LOOKING GAME OF ALL TIME!" "MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCIENTIFIC FACT!" I really look forward to seeing what Crytek is capable of in the next couple years on PC. I just turned on Crysis a few weeks ago (having played nothing but console for the previous couple months) and i was still blown away. There isn't a game on console that can touch Crysis 1 or Farcry 2. EDIT: And you know what. Watch 2 videos side by side of Uncharted 3 and Gears of War 3 in action...even that is night and day. Uncharted is really just an incredibly overrated series. I'm so tired of people propagating this myth that Uncharted is the epitome of console graphics. it's not. the problem is...people think cutscenes = graphics. and naughty dog have mastered the art of tricking dumb ppl into thinking the in-game quality matches the cutscene quality. they do an excellent job with their transitions. and i'm not saying it's a bad game...or an ugly one. just that it's HUGELY overrated.
Imo it's a case of wishful thinking and people confusing the actual tech behind those game and art design . It's obvious that stuff like Crysis kills Uncharted .. how the hell should it not anyway ? However i much prefer the art direction and the way design is handled in some of the console blockbusters on both 360 and pc , over the current PC ones wich rely more instead on their godly raw power and tech . I've only been blown away in 2011 on pc by the art direction of stuff like the Witcher 2 , day-one multiplatform releases , and a few "indie" titles
While I agree that Crysis 1 beats Uncharted easily tech wise, it is still lagging behind tremendously in things like the animation department (And hardly any game competes with Uncharted there). Animations just look too stiff, but they really improved them in Crysis 2. However, I still don't understand the "ou can build a rig for a round $500 that will blow consoles away with ease". 500$ is still 300$ over buying an Xbox. And for 300$ you can buy 5 new retail games, double that for older back catalog games, or 20-30 arcade games. That's a lot of gaming hours right there, and I actually rather have that. The actual question is: how much better is a 200-250$ PC rig compared to consoles? Because that's the new price range. Can you even get a reasonable gaming PC for that money? Lets exclude the PC screen costs assuming that we wish to connect it to a big screen TV just like consoles.
@Spydiggity reminds me of liberals, "MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCIENTIFIC FACT!" holy sh*t we have a Jesus freak over here!
"i'd say i'm in disbelief at andibandit's comment...but that's par for the course for most ppl on this website. people are simply willfully ignorant. they LOVE not knowing anything. it allows them to make blind statements like that. reminds me of liberals. "UNCHARTED 3 IS THE BEST LOOKING GAME OF ALL TIME!" "MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCIENTIFIC FACT!" " At first I was like "YEAH", but then I was like "WOH". Your comment is the equivalent of someone making the stand that guns don't kill people and then shooting yourself in the head. I really thought we were past this at this point. Even most republicans agree now that man has had an impact on global warming. Almost ALL scientist agree. Really, just look at all of the Scientific journals from independent studies showing the same results. There are only a handful of studies that show otherwise and they have all been called into question. Next you'll argue that the earth was created just over 2000 years ago, that oil wont eventually run out, and that the Jews buried dinosaur bones to test good christens beliefs. Sorry bud, but if you don't believe that man has had an effect on global warming, you are in the minority, no matter what Fox news tells you.
@fluffy I'm just referring to the pc parts that are enroute via newegg for me atm :D i7 3930k system with a 3d asus 27inch monitor. Will pick up a 680 and mod a water cooler to it whenever the hell I can get my hands on one. And as for ppl talking about pricing and being able to get more gaming out of a 360 for the price. Well then you obviously don't care about the quality and with that logic so why don't you just got get a super nintendo with every game available. More game time for the price right?
@catguy: "Even most republicans agree now that man has had an impact on global warming. Almost ALL scientist agree." uh...no. they don't. this is just liberal propaganda. do research of your own before spouting out nonsense you got from msnbc. notice i didn't say that global warming isn't real. i didn't even say that man-made global warming isn't real. i implied that liberals will announce it emphatically without any real evidence...kinda like you're doing right now. and no, i don't think the world is only 2000 years old. i don't understand why you people make such idiotic leaps. but i guess that's what it is to be a liberal. make assertions without proof. @F7U: no idea why you're getting agrees when you made that idiotic assumption. i happen to be an atheist, not that that is relevant at all. what does religion have to do with anything that's being said here? i'm surrounded by idiots. ...it's to be expected, i suppose. for the record: being a conservative or a liberal has NOTHING to do with one's religious or social views. it's that kind of irrational thought that is becoming more and more typical of people in the US and abroad (but especially in the US).
@geth1gh, As much as I do care about quality, there is a certain level where you are getting to a point of diminishing returns. I mean, I can always ask you how come you're not investing in a quad-card setup and connect it to a 4K 65" TV which sells for arounf 80,000$... So while NES games obviously don't make the cut (and infact I think that they will actually cost you more now), Xbox 360 and PS3 games mostly offer identical content to their PC counterparts, while the games are selling at around the same price and even you couldn't come up with a 200$ PC setup that can provide an alternative. There are only a handful of games that actually make use of the PC hardware - barely any games on the PC even bother with higher quality textures (Skyrim, Crysis 2, Battlefield 3 and Rage are a very few counter examples). Most of the PC games just offer higher resolution and higher AA+AF, but for the most part this doesn't matter when you're sitting even 12 ft away from your 55" TV. If you actually want to notice the differences, the alternative is to sit extremely close to your small PC monitor (even the big ones are usually not over 27") - which is just an inferior experience to sitting on a sofa with a proper surround sound system calibrated for the living room. The PC can also output higher FPS count on most games which is one of the biggest pluses, but the lack of proper VSYNC on most PC games just negates this huge advantage because unstable framerate is a big detractor (if you REALLY care about the quality at least).
I get it, if your poo... have a low income you stick to consoles. Not hating, that's why I am finally getting into pc gaming just within the past year of my life. Been consoles since a toddler. But if you do have the money to invest, go for it.
Also let me counter all the points you just made... First off, high res textures. Thats what the modding community is for and one of my favorite features of having a pc. Second, Vsync issues. gtx 680 pretty much fixes this. Third, surround sound. Surround sound headphones are where its at. I prefer to wear my triton ax pros over using my surround sound any day. And being a foot away from my 27inch true 120hz led 3d monitor is more than adequate to see the vast difference.
I hope he is not referring to the PS4/new Xbox when he says that. I'm hoping at least one of them will be bleeding edge in terms of tech. :/
It doesn't make a difference. PC's are always ahead of consoles.
Pretty much The difference is like night and day
I'd have to agree because although next gen consoles will we be an improvement, there is already tech out there at this moment and in the further that will be further advanced than tech of consoles. Unfortunately as consoles come into market, they are already considered old tech. I love playing my PS3 and 360, but playing battlefield 3 on a PC is miles ahead of playing it on consoles.
The PC is always ahead but only on a technical level. It's like giving a 12 year old unlimited colors to use for his painting while a true artist can create something magical with just a black marker. This is why console gaming is actually hindering PC gaming, it's where the marketing is and because of that it's also the platform many well known game developers flock to.
True bleeding edge tech comes at a huge premium, console hardware will always be at least 12 months behind that of a PC, purely because it has to be financially viable for the manufacturer. A consoles advantage is that due to its unified hardware, it gets fully optimised unlike PC so doesn't require that bleeding edge tech to give impressive results.
That's true to a degree. Console hardware is usually a generation or two behind in terms of raw horsepower, but they often have concessions made for future-proofing. Like the 360 with its unified RAM and the Cell with its unorthodox stream processing capabilities. These features, coupled with the optimizations afforded by a uniform architecture, can be exploited to allow for eye-candy and features that would otherwise be unachievable on PC equivalent hardware. One often finds that new consoles are roughly capable of matching or exceeding the best of what mid to high-end PC hardware can achieve at the time of release. More importantly, this is all done at a fraction of the cost (usually about 50% - 66% cheaper) if all components were to be bought new. Of course, this all changes about 6 months to one year later as PC hardware ceaselessly marches onward. I have a feeling that the next-gen consoles won't be as bleeding edge as everyone hopes. I also think they'll be adopting a number of consumer-unfriendly "features" and securities that may usher in what one might consider a "dark-age" of gaming. I don't know why, I just feel like that's where it's all heading.
well yeah. It wouldn't matter if the new PS4 or Xbox had today's latest video card from Nvidia or AMD, or the latest processor from Intel, because it'll only take a few months until the next benchmark is available, but only for the PC. But that's not what's important, since when it comes to consoles, optimization is what will make newer games look better and run faster. In 2006 could anyone fathom graphics the likes of BF3 or Uncharted 3 on console? We would have likely claimed the PC as the only platform capable of such (which we did) But look where we are now. But I hope Crytek gets their act together with the next Crysis, because Crysis 2 was abysmal. They know why, and I can only hope they won't sell themselves short again in an attempt to make an extra dollar; which in the case of Crysis 2, backfired anyway.
Their name suits them well. Cry tech, lol. Go cry in a corner
I think you need to cry because you're going back to school because you can't read. It's Crytek. Not crytech.
The best way to judge a platform is by the games available.
"The best way to judge a platform is by the games available that appeal to you." FTFY
Precisely , and that's one of the only few factor at play here . Who cares besides tech junkies if the pc is more powerful ? Either you care enough about the still console based games or not to get a console . I hear someone already murmuring "emulation" . it does indeed exist , but is only usually a factor many years after a console's "real shelf life" . It's a plus , but it's hardly that smart to gloat about playing Valkyria Profile 2 in 1920 and more , after 6 years , and still some minor bugs (Black/Purple vertical lines popping up and distorted cutscenes ) , depending upon your hardware and the version of the emu .
Yup and PC has the most games
Well, then don't publish your stuff on consoles and we'll see how much money you guys gonna earn. :)
They sold just as many copies of the original crysis on pc as they did of crysis 2 on any platform. Mind you that all digital PC sales yield twice the profit. They made enough money to make crysis 2 off of the original crysis, so im gonna say they make plenty just off the PC market.
Then they should just stick to it. :)
Yea pc is ahead every single time. 2006 I bought a desktop with hardware higher than all consoles and enjoyed every multplat and pc excl. Had some hiccups in performance in some multiplats due to bad porting. 2010 end I bought an A........ M15x laptop and now just rape any game that comes its way (cept Metro and Crysis 1) As soon as the next consoles are announced with hardware specs etc, im gonna make sure my next computer purchase in the future will be a lot better in hardware than the next gen consoles. Its basically how the pc gamer thinks. We position our purchases to always be ahead :D Cant help it, we just like to play it in HQ. Next step for my would prolly be 3 way or quad sli on next gen Geforce 700 series with a massive 3d Tv and the next gen intel or amd processor chip.
Aka. you overpaid.
Nope I paid for the service and extremely cheap refurbished upgrades. I went from 4 to 8gb ram in 23 quid lol and gtx 260m to ati 5850 to gtx 460m with a total cost of 100 quid(including phone calls , coffee and cigs). A........ have some badass service, well atleast in UK, got my MB replaced , graphics card changed even tho it actually turned out to be a speaker fault in the laptop front end lol lol Ppl dont know shit bout stuff. I customize my own desktops but I have reasons for certain brands. Also I can sleep well knowing my work wont get jeopardized coz im gonna get sorted in 24hrs In the end I dont mind spending a a bit more than others so that I can enjoy high quality stuff in my limited time that I have. I prefer playing on full hd. Nuff said
Lul, An m14x can rape any game out right now if your willing to set aside SSAO. It really doent take much to max any game available at 720p...
" PC is way ahead of other platforms " No shit... lol
Current hardware>6-year-old hardware Obvious fact is obvious. Why do devs have to repeat this same thing again and again and again.
The day new consoles are released pc hardware will still be light years ahead
The PC......oh you mean the audience you guys screwed over when you focused on the 360 more with Crysis 2
i agree, but what the hell crytek. Do you miss the big money you guys made on pc suddenly? Consoles werent what you expected?
they are indeed schizophrenic . They flatter the ego of the pc world , while at the same time butchering their games for greedy reasons .
I think sales of Crysis 2 were much lower than expected, especially when compared to Crysis. The original sold better on PC alone than the second did across all platforms combined (AFAIK). This is largely due to the facts that: 1) They seemingly turned their backs on the PC audience and 2) The console audience don't know and don't care enough about Crytek or Crysis. It's the same with id Software (RAGE). I suppose now they're trying to butter up the old PC fanbase in the hopes of being welcomed back with open arms. We'll see.
Sounds more like they are prepping their next game engine for a reveal. What better way to sell bleeding edge tech than to pitch it to its biggest audience. Very likely I believe. CryEngine 4.0 A true successor to CryEngine 2 and 3(2.5) :P I still say all they did was optimize CryEngine 2 and slap a 3 on it. This one is different this time. A massive shift. Photorealism + Mass Destruction?
I know the pc is. But Id rather a ps3 or 360 since all the exclusives are good and you cant get on pc.. but thats just me , I guess.
Why do people think that when a company does a console game they are turning their backs on PC or visa versa. I love the Crysis series, can give a rat’s ass as long as it plays well on the PC.
crysis 2 is a joke compared to crysis or far cry. Most of it was because they tried to please console gamers.
Then make your next game bleed PC tech. Also, add multi-monitor support from the ground up and not tack on (^^).
just wondering if anyone else has noticed the lack of PC GAMES in the shops
What does water turn into when it touches boiling point? Nvm you cant reply, but I bet you're getting the picture.
Steam. Impulse Greenman gaming Origin Gamefly Gmaergate I got a whole lot more. But you will soon see this since consoles will go to it.
Crytek 2008: Consoles are our future, PC gamers are all pirates Crytek 2011: Releases a console game that becomes a grainy buggy mess and sells poorly. Crytek 2012: "PC is our next-generation, way ahead of other platforms" STFU Crytek
3 mil copies in 3 months. And C2 sold poorly? Rigghhtt....
Yea they "shipped" to stores 3 million copies on 3 platforms (including PC digital sales), but notice how they never mentioned sales ever again? That is because they haven't sold much more than that since. And 3 million of a much hyped sequel with a decent marketing budget over 3 platforms isn't that great, especially considering the first sold 3.5 million copies on PC with very high min specs for the time. Crytech said they expected 7+ million for Crysis 2 before launch.
Firstly, C2 was like a new franchise on consoles yet it was a sequel which probably made a lot of people hesitant to try it out. And no Crysis 2's marketing was piss poor compared to Homefront that was OTT. I'm thinking had C2 been marketed better or released a few weeks after Homefront, it would've sold more copies. And yes 3 million shipped is still a pretty good number
You truly believe that then don't release the next game on consoles. Let's see how much money you don't make.
their next 2 games aren't on consoles... Fibble is an iPad game and Warface is a PC exclusive Besides they never said there wasn't money to be made on consoles and I am sure they will be happy to take the console money to fund their high end game engine.
The US army is using their game engine for training.They are paying more than the average gamer would ever dream of. Even without making any games for both the consoles and PC, Crytek is still raking in money from licensing alone.
These guys just doesn't shut up do they??
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