This article gives new perspectives on why Metal Gear Solid 4 will never come to the Xbox 360.
bots are mad cause they have to buy a ps3 to play this!
a BAD HD DVD news can convert even a stubborn person like him to the PS3 camp
We PS3 owners are just having too much fun today. Gosh.
I hear ya there. Some "360 owners" (bein' a little polite today) deserve this abuse (or maybe I'm not, lol). With all the ranting going on about 360 getting MGS4 even after proven wrong countless times, it feels good having xbots shut up like this...again.
again with this?
yeah.. again.. and again.. and again... this sh*t just won't die
when xbots flock to any article mentioning the game is going multi-plat. Xbox family? Who ever heard of that site before they said it'd be on 360? Give me a break. Lems, you're not getting this game. The good news is I might get Mass Effect and even Bio-shock one day. MS exclusive games are not really exclusive because they make the jump to PC later anyway. You'll not see Ratchet, Uncharted, GT5, the Team ICo game, and MGS4 anywhere but PS3.
But hey, you'll always have those HD-DVD movies to enjoy.
Because I checked GameTrailers and such news never appeared. It will never happen!
the AI algorithms could only be calculated by the CELL
PEOPLE we might be lucky enough to see real time raytracing at 60FPS on TEKKEN 6.
PS3 is the only cpu/gpu that can do tertiary RAYTRACING
not even an 8800GTX can do double/secondary raytracing .
RR7 and NGS runs at 1080p @ 60FPS
not even a LIVE game runs at 1080p NATIVE at 60fps
DONT compare UNCHARTED with MASS EFFECT.
UNCHARTED looks milesssssssssssssssss better than any x360 title.
The only x360 title which comes remotely close to UNCHARTED is BIOSHOCK but it is REMOTELY CLOSE
UNCHARTED has the best water and the best looking environment.
CRYSIS has the best foliage
GT,GAMESRADAR and GAMEREACTOR say so
x360 is a low powerful machine
PS3 is a super powerful machine.
PS3 anc CELL can do something which contemporary CPUs/GPUs would take years to do.
CELL vs 8800GTX vs other PROCESSORS
DONT COMPARE LOW POWERED x360 with PS3
DONT compare CELL with lower powered processors /quad cores
CELL vs QUAD CORE
PC has no response against CELL
When will people stop saying 360 isn't capable, Cell is the best, etc??
360 and PS3 are fabulouse machines. And this game is a much better game than Crysis, Mass Effect or Uncharted?
It will be a very good game indeed, but will not be a game that will make people goooo CRAZY. And believe me, if anyone managed to make a game in the next 2 years that couldn't runon PS3 or 360 it would certainly make people go CRAZY.
"It is too much taxing for anything other than PS3
the AI algorithms could only be calculated by the CELL
PEOPLE we might be lucky enough to see real time raytracing at 60FPS on TEKKEN 6."
Man you are so annoying and talk SO much Bullsh!t that it's just sickening. If the PS3 is so powerful, why is it that all of the Top titles to this point Uncharted, Ratchett, Motorstorm, etc are all listed at 720p.
Why didn't the devs just turn that baby loose and run these games at the full 1080p so that they would be compatible with all hd TVs. Let me ask you this, will the real time raytracing be at 1080p, I mean come on, the cell processor should be able to do this easily right. STFU! You are the most annoying poster on this site. Dude you seriously have a problem, your sh!t talking never takes a rest.
I bet even your family hates you.
I apologize to the other PS3 Fans out there, but this jerk never shuts the hell up.
The problem with you and many others is that you just don't get it. Do you believe the Cell should be able to do this all on its own? You're dumb if you said yes. Developers must know how to program for the Cell before it is capable of doing this. It doesn't magically go POOF! and there is your 1080p. If you don't have a team of developers with the correct understanding and experience with the hardware, it will never be possible, no matter how powerful what your programming for is. This is simply power developers must learn to harness. And the learning part isn't that simple. So why don't you shut up and go play ur Wii.
There's no point trying to discuss something on threads like these. TANOD is quick to use his other 10 accounts to disagree with you.
Interesting thought, though. How come far from all games run in 1080p if the PS3 is as powerful as some people claim?
Sony's mad propaganda before they released it really paid off on some. People like TANOD act as if they were cult followers.
@Talyboy - your argument is one that has been used for quite some time now. The PS3 has been out now for over a year, however the games being released right now have been in development for much much longer. So, while you're telling people to shutup, perhaps you can try to have a more open mind and stop being such a blind Fanboy
@ ohwii & Jenzo - You both make a very interesting points. I have had my PS3 for a while now. My biggest problem is that the TV I have it connected to doesn't support 720p. So I have missed out on some of it's best releases thus far. I got Uncharted for Christmas, but took it back because it said only 720p on the package.
I was hoping that aleast game published by Sony would be full 1080p so that I can atleast play them at 1080i. But, so far no such luck on the titles that I have been interested in. Hopefully this will change soon. Sigh..oh well so swell.
The only reason the rumor keeps coming back is because of similar articles.
1 and only 1 reason is needed, because Konami said so.
I love MGS. It's my favorite series. But I have to say... I just don't care anymore. Bring it to whatever you want, as long as the PS3 version doesn't suffer, and as long as the game is quality.
I think by 2009, third party exclusives should be dead, period. Ninja Gaiden on PS3. MGS on Xbox. Everyone enjoys everything, and then first party devs will be forced to up the ante with titles like Motorstorm 2, Infamous, etc...
You're right. But the point here is that 3rd party exclusives today are the same as firt party games. The only thing that makes a 3P exclusive is MONEY.
Companies could afford that with PS2, where every 'GOOD' game could easly surpass the development costs.
At this moment, the best platform to make money is the 360. I believe they will make money going PS3 Only but going PS3+360 or even 360 Only would give them a MUCH more money.
So, Sony is securyng this game with a very big money bag, as they're doing with FF and MS is doing with Bioshock, Mass Effect or Ninja Gaiden 2
only because of some of the jerks that are lems. You know who they are. They bash Sony repeatedly and the last bastion that remains is MGS4 and Final Fantasy when it comes to big 3rd party exclusives. I also care because, well heck, I paid all this money for this shiny black box and I want to think it can do something that the cheaper comnpeition can't. I already know it can do one thing that 360 can't do-not break down with the same frequency. But I want to believe that blu-ray, teh cell, and the SPUs are more than just inflated numbers. That they mean the difference between a MGS4 on PS3 and not on 360.
As Kojima said "PS3 is the theatre" and Xbox is a "dvd." He should have said Xbox is an HD-DVD. That would have been funny.
It's funny, Microsoft buy games left right and centre, but everyone forgets, Sony have deep pockets as well and have bought exclusives in the past.
Half-Life on the PS2 for instance, no Dreamcast version.
I have to agree with reason number 1. True dat.
Great night for news people.... n4g has never been sooo???? busy?
who DID'NT SEE THIS COMING, WHO?
THEER IS THE BAD GUYS AND THE GOOD GUYS. THE GOOD GUYS HAVE THE LAW IN THEER HANDS, AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA LEAVE SOME STUPID EXCLUSIVITY QUESTION TO ROAM N4G OR SHOULD I SAY R4G.
for misuse of CAPS. Sorry but it piss' me off.
lol, i hate when people do that
imho i dont care if it doesnt come to the 360 at all, i got:
4.ninja gaiden 2
Bioshock 2? It aint even in development yet...and there will be a PS3 version too.
Gears of War 2 is your only hope and it is not comming out this year, they have not even developed it yet...Epic might rush it and get it out...this year...but think more fall 2009...they are working on UT3 for the xbox 360 first...
none of those other games in your list can compare to MGS4 or final fantasy 13 or little big planet...
"Gears of War 2 is your only hope"
????? MGS4 will be a very good game I guess. But don't think every PS3 owner will buy the game. And don't think PS3 sales will boost by Millions. The two things I think will REALLY boost console sales this year are 'GTA4' and 'price drop'. There are Millions(Yes) of 360 users that don't have Halo 3. It's not a game that will make a console. And LBP and LZ2 will be good games I guess. But look at the games #llamaman13# listed and you'll see that 360 will have BIG games too.
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Dude that is a LAME AS$ LIST. First of all Bioshock 2 will be on PS3... as will the Mass Effect series and the rest of them all suck. THEY ALL WILL BE DECENT BUT U CAN'T PLAY DOWN METAL GEAR SOLID... ONE OF THE BEST GAMING FRANCHISES AROUND. And its only one. Killzone 2, Gran TRurimso 5, God of War 3, Syphon Filter, Resistance 2, Uncharted 3,THEIR ARE ALOT MORE THAN THAT. Socom(big franchise), Fainl Fantasy... dude what are u trying to prove. The only game ever woth ANYTHING in that list in NG2(which will not be anything specail at all) and Gears of War 2.(Which I will happily purchase for my 360.) PS3 has the best game BY A VERY LONG SHOT. I didn't even name that many and all the games I named are gonna be very big, GREAT games. Little Big Planet. Motorstorm 2. 2 Rockstar Exclusives. You might as well stop being in denial and get a PS3 if u want the best games. You will see. You just actually believes Gears, Bioshok , Halo and Mass Effect would be the only good games this gen. Boy, you were so wrong.
if any one buys halowars your A TOOL
the man speaks the truth- but he contradicted himself in the end, who spotted it?
OOOH OOOH I DID. Your talking about the part where he talks about "even MGS4: substinence will be ps3 exclusive" but at the end he says " hey noone is saying a MG title is not going to come to 360, it jsut wont be MSG4.
I WANT MY COOKIE NOW!!! :))
I'd go with the number 1 reason its a ps3 exclusive...Konami said it is. Why is that hard for people to accept?
1. XBOX3sh!tty sux
2. xbox is too loud for snake to sneak around
3. snake has a weakness of rrod systems
4. sony and MGS4 is like PBJ they just go great together
5. it's the 1 GAME to rule them all
lol @ reason number 2, made me laugh. Have a bubble! :D
Wouldn't it be cool if they released a game that was exclusive to competent people? Guess you'd be screwed then though. It's not even that offensive or funny. It's just the same old joke you hear over and over. And anyone who thinks calling xbox 360, xbox3sh!tty, is clever is just a flat out moron. Sorry, just a pet peeve.
Even though that was extremely biased and extremely offensive towards all 360 owners, it was still funny lol.
i agree reason 2 is pure comedy gold i can picture it now
guard on ps3 version: "hey so how is your famil........arrgghh (snake slits his throat)"
guard on 3fixme version: "hey so how is your famil..... wtf is that fan noise (guard turns around, spots snake and gets an exclamation mark above his head)
Thank god you explained it, I was lost until you did so.
it's a day one purchase for me. Although I've never played any of the other ones. Aynway can't wait for this game. I just hope it doesn't get delayed again.
Finally a person who writes about metalgear solid 4 that isnt an xbot!
A 360 version WAS in development, but some reshuffling of management over at SCE in early 2007 led to numerous exclusivity deals being solidified, MGS4 being one of them.
Keep telling yourself that. Im sure it haelps you sleep at night.
thats just a flat out lie. mgs well NEVER be on 360. is a sony playstation game
"Especially at a time when the PS3 market share is likely to rival Xbox's"
WHY? What I see is 360 doing better in USA, UK and Australia. PS3 doing better in Japan and Europe.
I don't see PS3 catching up 360.. At least if AAA titles keep coming to the MS machine.
PS3 will sell very good. But so will do 360. Specialy with the same 3rd party games. I'm looking forward to see where GTA4 will sell the most.
GTA4 might sell more that the PS3 version ONLY because there are a bit more 360's than there are PS3's. Simple as that. Please keep in mind which console had a year head start. Second, the PS3 is selling more than the 360 in worldwide sales. So where you get your info from is unknown. Also, BluRay keeps aquiring studios like Paris Hilton recieves STD's. In case you didnt know Warner Bros. just went BluRay. And a little history lesson for you. PS1: CdRom, PS2: DVD, PS3: BluRay. See the pattern. All three consoles sell like hotcakes. The PS3 will win this war. Even though its an unfair war since someone had a year headstart in which people forget. PeAcE.
Rival mean near about, not necessarily pass.
With sales at there current rates worldwide, PS3 will be closing the gap a little, but percentage wise this mean the share of the market will be increasing. then with games like GT5, final fantasy and MGS4 coming out, this will boost the PS3 sales further.
So yes, the PS3 user base will rival the Xbox user base by the time this game comes out....please don't be offended.
PS3 is gonna sell this year! HOME is coming out, Metal Gear Solid 4, God of War 3 and a few more exclusives! It's gonna be awesome. But its staying an exclusive no matter how much fans cry about it and complain!
they keep on saying "as of now we have no plans for it"( A good statement because there not held accountable for it weather it does come out OR not).
this one baffled me a lot, is ps3 getting only 1 MGS game, because MGS 4 is the last in the series. what does kojima have in store for 2009 or 2010 ?
"sigh" all of what i said is true, kojima did say mgs4 is the last in the series.
Well, Zone of the Enders 3 is also in the works and is also going to be a PS3 exclusive, he's also working on Project 'S' with Suda 51, assumed to be for 360.
Portable Ops 2 is also rumoured to be in the works, for PSP.
And he's writing and Producing the Metal Gear Solid movie.
mgs4 is the last one with snake in the game. there will be spinoffs just like halo wars from halo etc.
1. They're fanboys
2. The're fangirls
3. They have thick skulls
4. They do not believe in logic
5. THEY ARE FANBOYS!!!
PS3 is the best
1. there TOOLS
2. brainwashed in to thinking theres system is better
3. well buy any game and still pay for internet access TWICE
4. halo 3 proved there tools to there system.
5. mgs wont go to xbox
Damphear, I ran what you said through a translator, but nothing's coming back. Try again.
Seriously, you Halo haters are so f*cking jealous it hurts! I see your posts every day and it just brings a huge smile to my face :)
Sorry, you'll never, ever, ever get to have your very own copy of the greatest game on Earth. Sorry, droids. You're stuck with Kiddy Big World. No Halo for you ;) Not ever! =]
*professer Buzzkill* umm exuse me sir but you stated the same reason twice
oh wow i cant play halo. i never once played the game it looked like crap and seemed gay sence every one was the same just blue or yellow.
greatest game ever?? no most sold. but that doesnt prove its the best. crack sells more than any thing but does that make it the best?? no.
halo is really lame and if you think its the best proves your lame and a slave to that feeds you.
Ever thought that with sony making the MGS movie, konami could be getting a more than fair share of the profits providing MGS4 remains an exclusive
oh yeah i forgot about the metal gear solid movie! Are they really making it?
Yep. Kojima is doing the story and producing and Sony Pictures are footing the bill.
David Hayter also submitted a screenplay, but it was rejected, so no filming has acually begun.
3 more reasons why the 3fixme owners wont get mgs4:
1) they cant understand a plot that goes beyond- "they are bad guys...shoot them"
2) they dont understand gameplay mechanics that go beyond- "here is a big gun....press r to kill bad guys"
3) they will destroy what the game is about, why? you just know that they will take out the assault rifle, go into fps mode and start holding down R1 to.... yep you guessed it- shoot bad guys
Wow, you sound completely f*cking braindead. Too bad ALL of the AAA GotY titles are 360-exclusive, most of which are not shooters like Halo or Gears, but are RPGs with some shooter elements, like Mass Effect and Bioshock, and the "BEST" PS3 game out is Unfarted and R&C, both of which are half-assed, unoriginal shooters (Gears meets Tomb Raider FTL), and the most anticipated PS3rd game is, oh wait, KRAPZONE 2, ANOTHER SHOOTER!
What have we learned? How to get f*cking raped, dragon nerd.
wtf? you kinda just proved my point about 3fixme owners being dumbasses- you sound gay, depressed lonely and above all VERY VERY angry- what happened hmmmmmmmm? have to wait yet ANOTHER 3 weeks for a replacement console? the "please swap disk" sign on lost odyssey get to you? your hddvd add-on being rendered useless? or was it that your parents wont buy you a ps3?
ratchet is not half-assed you dumb sh!t you just say that because you feel the need to troll every ps3 game- its actually polished in every way (i was playing it 30 mins ago and it never ceases to be enjoyable and the graphics never cease to amaze me)
and i didnt say that every good 360 exclusive is a shooter dumbfcuk i just said that they are angry and always want to kill stuff (you and millions of others on XML (xbox malfunctioning live) prove my point) and killzone 2 (not krapzone you blinded fanboy) is not the most anticipated ps3 game- its FF13 asshole, an innovative and beautiful RPG
please dont post comments again because you'll only end up proving the points of sony fanboys
Non Ps3 owners don't know what they are missing. i can confidently tell everyone in this forum that, ignorance will let any one compare xbox 360 to Ps3. I am an Xbox360 owner but after taking the Ps3 for a test drive i Can't wait to send my Xbox360 to the Pawn Shop. Microsoft can keep my Xbox live accounts and Points. I'm Done!
PS3=MERCEDES BENZ XBOX360=FORD CONTOUR AND WII= GEO METRO.
This means comparing my Xbox360 to my friends Ps3 is Like comparing a Ford Contour to a Mercedes Benz because they are both driveable.Sory that's a big mistake!
good for you- you can now play mgs4 and all the other great exclusives coming to ps3, but why do you say that wii is worse than xbox- at least the wii has some innovation and fun ideas and its great for parties, ps3 is for the gamers and for more next-gen features than you can shake a stick at and the 3fixme is for heating up your toast and eggs in the morning and an experiment to see how many bricks you can drop on it before it breaks (or a similar experiment)
We must stop these postings, the xbots cant take anymore of this!
How long is N4G going to keep fanning the flames of this non-story?