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Submitted by acronkyoung 996d ago | opinion piece

The PlayStation brand needs to die

How can Sony make the name PlayStation synonymous with quality game experiences in the minds of the millions of players that only started taking the hobby seriously within the last generation or two? They can't. The PlayStation brand needs to die. (Industry, Microsoft, PS3, Sony, Xbox 360)

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Tolkoto  +   996d ago
I don't know, fortunes can always change. I mean, the PS2 was way more popular than the Xbox, and then the swapped places in the next cycle.

Although people who owned an Xbox weren't held to as much ridicule as PS3 fans are today.
chriski333  +   996d ago | Well said
Just another lonely fanboy trying to get hits. Playstation brand is just fine. I own both systems and I use the ps3 way more then xbox it all come down to switch one u prefer. Both systems have there ups and downs
Captain Qwark 9  +   996d ago
my bad, i accidentally disagreed. well said sir. i have both as well but much prefer my xbox. simply put,

i prefer the controller, user interface, and extra features far more, plus the majority of my buddies have 360.

playstations blue ray and internet are nice but not overly useful to me, internet for porn and blue rays are to expensive to use regularly.

as far as the games go, most of my favs are multiplats anyway so i always get them on 360. then when ps3 gets an exclusive i want to play or a fighting game, i get it for ps3.

overall, i have and always will, game on both. when the next systems drop, ill get sony's and ms's again cuase thats how i roll.
sikbeta  +   996d ago
Article is really made to get attention, mision acomplished on that one, as for the title, another PS3-like console (pre-slim era) and he'd be probably right...
MrDead  +   996d ago | Well said
From release Nov 2005 - Feb 2011 360 WW 52.1m
From release Nov 2006 - Feb 2012 PS3 WW 61.7m

PS3 has sold better than the 360 since its release, Playstation brand is fine. These articles should not be approved.
WrAiTh Sp3cTr3  +   996d ago
^^^
Hmm, you've seemed to have forgotten to add another year to the Xbox numbers and the total along with it, lol. I must say, I would be intrigued to find out your reason, lol.
Dante112  +   996d ago
@ Wraith

He just needs to edit his year numbers (2005, 2006), but he's still right about the PS3 outselling the 360 if you compared both without the year lead.

Source: http://ps3.ign.com/articles...
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darthv72  +   996d ago
I think I understand....
the name itself was a key to the success of the PS2 because it was synonymous with the popularity of the original "playstation". Now maybe this guy is thinking that a reinvention of the name is needed.

Meaning that to continue the trend of just adding a number denotes a lack of originality. We could look at sega and say that each platform they had was in and of itself its own name and identity. Similar to nintendo and how they changed from the first 3 platforms (nintendo, super nintendo and nintendo 64) to the gamecube and subsequently the wii.

Although, when a brand has name recognition you dont really want to just cut ties with it right away. Playstation as a brand is very popular in today's culture. If sony were to be creative with their next console you can bet it would be playstation....something but they should drop the number system for the new model.

MS has been using the windows brand since its creation but it was the consumer that would tend to drop that part of the name. Early versions were referred to as windows...(insert version). Then with windows 95 came the advent of simply calling it 95 and later 98 and ME, NT, 2000, XP, vista...etc. Yet they were all under the brand recognition of "Windows". Will MS all of a sudden change that and remove the key part of the name that people know most?

Playstation brand does not need to die. It can be perfectly fine as the umbrella to which other sony platforms can derive their association to each other. We as the consumer can choose to drop it from the naming when discussing it but the brand will live on.
ABizzel1  +   996d ago
The PlayStation brand is arguably the best in gaming. I think they're having problems simply because the market has changed and Sony's still stuck with a 1990's or 2000's mentality.

Times have changed and they need to get on board. 60+ million PS3's sold and continuing to sell is a success. That may be a large drop from 150+ million PS2's and 100+ million PS1's but neither of those consoles had as many problems as the PS3 has had, both just and unjust.

An item sells if it's popular and affordable. Coming off the success of the PS2 the PS3 was considered to be the most anticipated console of all time. But then it launched with a $500 & $600 price tag and lacked a line-up of games and performance to backup that asking price. So off the bat Sony was in trouble, especially when you could pick up a 360 and a Wii at the time for about the same price.

Being cheap and offering a new experience (gimmick or not) the Wii was the go to console for the casual audience that the PS2 once had, and the 360 being cheaper and dropping Gears of War showed that the Xbox 360 was possibly better than the PS3 since it had "the game" to show it, and it too was cheaper. Also with the 360 getting exclusive content, games, and DLC buying a PS3 at the time seemed like a bad investment.

Fast forward 5+ years things are different, and the Wii has fizzled out, the 360 is still doing great in America, but the world has seen the true potential of the PS3 with a massive array of exclusives in multiple genres, and more features than any other console it's become the best selling console worldwide on a weekly basis.

The PlayStation brand isn't bad, nor does it needs to die. It just needs re-branding.
ABizzel1  +   996d ago
Step 1. "Online" Sony needs to reconstruct their online network so that's it simple, intuitive, and screams connectivity. Establishing a network and community where gamers want to be is the most important thing Sony must accomplish next gen.

The PS Vita has fixed some of these things and is headed in the right path, but the PS4 or whatever it's called needs to expand above and beyond what the Vita does.

Step 2 "Innovate" Sony has stuck to what works and that's where the problem is. Yes they took a chance with a new processor, but gamers aren't concerned with what's running their console. Only what's playable on it, and what it looks like on screen.

This is where PS Home comes in. IMO Home has the most potential in the world, but the ball has been dropped from the Empire State Building. Home should have a sports arena where you can play simple sports games like in Wii Sports all for free. They should have a track where you can play simple karting games for free. They should have arcades where you can play classics for free. They should integrate some games into apps like EyePet so you can have a virtual pet in your apartment/studio/whatever.

Home has some of these things like the EEA sports complex, but it's just not to the level of what I'm talking about. Long loading needs to be cut down significantly, long downloads as well. Home should be the OS for the PS4 if they can make it run how I envision it.

Step 3 "Price" The PS3 didn't pick up in sales until it hit $400, so don't make a console that cost over $400 to manufacturer.

Step 4 "Games" Sony has the broadest array of games on consoles IMO, and that's their greatest strength. They have some of the best developers in the industry exclusive to them, so make sure everyone's on the same page and all produce the same quality that Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica are producing. Get the others caught up, although they're not far behind.

Step 5 "Market" Get the news out there, get the games and consoles in people's hands, show commercials, get your games at competitive tournaments, have tours around the country or in Sony stores, Get a spokesperson who represents the gaming community, do whatever it takes to get your product known.

Step 6 "Partners" Get Google on board since you guys seems to be in a serious relationship (Chrome web browser, Android apps, etc...), Make Crackle a dashboard app (free Sony movies is a +, and having it on the dashboard is a no duh), Get whoever else you can on board, you scratch my back I'll scratch yours. When you feel that you've got your money's worth you're more satisfied with your purchase, and those kinds of customers will spread the word about your item.

If you re-brand the PlayStation make sure it's not just a simple name change, but a complete upgrade & update.
Spawn-KING  +   996d ago
I argree 100%
both has their own great exclusives.
ChrisW  +   996d ago
I don't know about needing to die... But there is a level of ambiguity concerning marketing. Sony should have stomped Xbox into a mudhole all the way to China only a couple years after launch.

They should have, but didn't.
_Aarix_  +   996d ago
I swear to god does litteratly EVERYONE here have beef with the 360. I own both but is it really so wrong to prefer the xbox experience over the ps3s or prefer gears and halo over uncharted and killzone. I LOVE rachet and clank and heavy rain and ive played all 3 uncharted, in fact my slim just got ylod and I still bought a uncharted 3 bundle instead of only having a 360. To me, the ps3 experince is basically loading, loading, syncing and "this action requires you leaving game". I love both I really do but why all the damn hate. Why?
badz149  +   996d ago
@Tolkoto
"the PS2 was way more popular than the Xbox, and then the swapped places in the next cycle."

PS2 - 150mil and counting
XBOX - 25mil and dead!

vs

360 - ~65mil and counting
PS3 - 60mil and counting

I can't see how's THAT considered as "swapped places" at all! yes, the 360 is dominant in the USA just like how most XBOX were sold there too back then but worldwide, it's too close to call for any dominance that most publishers especially the big ones are opting for their games to be multiplat rather than exclusive unlike last gen where PS2 dominated in terms of 3rd party exclusives!

the abundance of exclusives on PS3 this gen is solely due to Sony producing many in-house games and MS too lazy to make any as they are more comfortable spending money on exclusive content/advertising/DLC for multiplats!
SilentNegotiator  +   996d ago
So the author's argument is that there aren't dedicated playstation fans because he had a conversation with some people?

"If my coworkers are any indication"

Bitmod is releasing some very pathetic anti-playstation articles lately.
THILLREBORN  +   996d ago
@Wraith
MrDread was pointing out that at the same time in their life cycle the PS3 had actually sold better. He doesn't need to update years just elaborate his logic a little better.

As of right now the PS3 is selling the best week over week. I know that last comment is going to bring disagrees but the truth is the truth...can't ignore fact oh and by the way I'm not talking NPD I'm talking globally.

Oh and don't give shit sites like Bitmob hits for trash articles...the only reason they posted this is because it's slow on real news and they don't want to do real journalistic work and create real content for real gamers not fan boys.
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joab777  +   996d ago
You are right. It sounds like a case of a bunch od cod players on xbox. That won't last forever. Though, i guess if cod caused millions to become xbox fans, it was worth it for microsoft to put a premium on online and the call of duty brand.

Anyway, next gen I'll be judged by what it is...and isn't.
Wigriff  +   996d ago
I think the sensationalist title is necessary to pull people into an article that may otherwise be overlooked. This is a valid viewpoint, and something that needs to be discussed and considered. I seriously doubt the impetus for this article was to generate hits.
R1CAN617  +   996d ago
Its always about hits when some one disagree's.
nix  +   996d ago
if he brushes his teeth and prays to tooth fairy every night.. he might get his wish.
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vega275  +   995d ago
@ _Aarix_
does it really matter what anyone on this site really think of the 360. i mean as long as you enjoy it then it really doesn't matter if all the sonyfanboys on this site disagree with you.

i own both systems and a gaming pc. and besides my gaming pc (which i play more than anything) my 360 comes in a close second for my playing time. where as i don't even touch or buy any games for my ps3, which i haven't played since my friend let me hold uncharted 3 (which i've never been a fan of) and gave back after two days.

i have played most of what sony has to offer for the ps3 and I'm not impressed at all. but that's just me and my opinion. many of my friends don't touch their ps3 either but i'm sure they have their own reasons why not.
jeseth  +   995d ago
Didn't even give the site the hit.

What an ignorant attempt at flaming. This article is 4 years late and seems like it should have come during the start of this gen at the start of the Sony/MS "console war".

What a troll.
HarryMasonHerpderp  +   996d ago | Well said
I get the impression that the majority of americans
are pro 360 but over here in europe its a different story.
I for one am all about nintendo and the sony playstation.
I like my xbox but theres not enough variety in genres like
the PS3 in my opinion.
I wish some americans would get it out of their heads
that america does not = the world.
Just because japan doesn't like the 360 it hasnt stopped it
from being succesfull.
Same goes for playstation in america.
Btw i am aware that some of you love your playstations
=)
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TBM  +   996d ago
I own both but my ps3 gets used way more. right now my 360 has been a paperweight since gears 3.

playstation has always been of variety for me and that's why its played more.
MysticStrummer  +   996d ago | Well said
It is an american problem. If I go to a midnight launch in my town, I'm in the minority by far as a PS3 user, and the Gamestop here pushes 360 over PS3 in a blatant way. I've never been one to follow the crowd, so I buy quality hardware over popular hardware every time. Just like iPods and iPhones are inferior, yet popular in the US, so is the 360. I bought my PS3 in early 07 and have never regretted it. Meanwhile, every single person I know who bought a 360 because it launched first no longer has one. They traded up to PS3s and are all happy with that move. My money will go to the Playstation brand until they lose my interest, just like Nintendo before them and Atari before them. Based on PS1, PS2, and PS3, PS4 is where I will be.
vickers500  +   996d ago | Well said
Everyone I know except for like 3 or 4 people (who I actually successfully converted to playstation 3) plays Xbox 360. It's so frustrating hearing these idiots say things like "the ps3 doesn't have any games", and when I proceed to prove them wrong by listing them off and their reviews and awards (I know those aren't definitive proof by themselves, but they are proof that a console "has good games" if there are a ton of them), they just say they've "never heard of it" and shrug it off as if it's a crappy game JUST BECAUSE THEY'VE NEVER HEARD OF IT.

I guess by their dumb@ss perception, if something isn't popular as hell or if they haven't heard of their dudebro friends playing it, then it must suck. I hate these drone/sheep who judge something based on how popular it is. I even had a guy adamantly defend the 360 while trashing the ps3, who knew almost nothing about the 360, he thought the 360 used hd dvds.

I think the only way to counter these kinds of idiots, is for Sony to waste billions of money on marketing (that could go towards making a new game or two) so these name recognition whores will finally buy a ps3.
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DigitalRaptor  +   996d ago
@ vickers500

Those types of people make me sick, and are probably the main reason why the PS3 has been so abused this generation. Similarly in other entertainment industries, these people are the reason why so much great content from amazingly talented people is being ignored in favour mass produced "popular" trite.

It's the culmination of media propaganda, misinformation and the spreading of childish, ignorant BS over years, that these people have been led to believe. The youth of today are so much more ignorant than before because they have been force fed entertainment, latched on to their friends' interests and don't really make the effort to go and find things that they personally admire - rather, they just take in what the corporations feed them, rather than be forming healthy, individual tastes and expanding their mind to welcome great creative output.

That is a huge problem, and you're right, the only way for this to change, is for Sony to waste their money trying to amend this appalling situation. Sadly, sheep will be sheep.
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Oner  +   996d ago
I'm American and partially agree with your point Harry (to an extent)...but I don't believe it's "just" Americans per se. I think it's more along the lines of the the American media bias that tries to portray us and the situation in that light because I have LOTS of friends and family (Americans) who contradict that "mind set" and actually prefer the PS brand over the others any day of the week!
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memots  +   996d ago
Most store you go to in America have giant display of Kinect and TV showing MS stuff. That is marketing people. There is no giant cardboard character cut out of Resistance when it came out but they still had the giant master chief there.
Sony has failed to get to that level in america.

Ill be giving you a real life example here , My friend mom wanted a Kinect to get that Dance game but they have a PS3 at home. She was ready to dish out all that money just to play a Dance game. I hooked up a Move to their PS3( she never heard of "move" before ) and we rented Just Dance and guess what? she freaking loved it. < --- This my friend is why Sony is failing in North America.

Now don't get me wrong i would rather them spend money on making good game and hardware but the problem here is that they could be making way more money just by advertising correctly.

And the DudeBro syndrome is all too real. Talk to any of those cod360 sheep about Killzone and they never heard of it and would "not know how to play it" even if you tell them it is the exact same controls scheme. Some of them don't even believe that you get free online on ps3 to play teh COD
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slaton24  +   995d ago
Well said...I myself am an american but i prefer my ps3 and wii...i have a 360 but not really played it to much because of payin online...thats really it.I never pc gamed because im not into any pc exclusives seein how the really good ones are a pay to play services
Chitown71291  +   996d ago
The only thing Sony doesn't know how to do is keep the momentum rolling......Im a PS3 fanboy , i'll admit it. But Sony has kept promising us things, and have failed to deliver on those promises. E3 2005 , the list of features that thing had was crazy. But they ended up cutting some of those features out....that was the start of their misery, and then the price.....and then they failed to deliver on Home. Now am I saying that all of this was a failure? No. Im saying they failed to deliver on their promises. But at the end of the day, I bought the PS3 to play some of the most cutting edge, media pushing games out. And they most definitely succeeded on that. MGS4 , Uncharted series, LittleBigPlanet, InFamous, Gran Turismo....I could go all day lol. But I see the tide turning in Sony's approach to things....When they released the Vita....they didn't promise you anything... They showed the console...showed what it could do, and let it speak for itself. I think that should be their approach from now. I love Sony and want to see the best for them in the future #SonyForLife.
GrandTheftZamboni  +   996d ago
But Sony also delivered more than promised: Killzone 2 looked better than 2005 trailer, which everyone thought was impossible to have on a console.
andibandit  +   996d ago
I dont see the tide turning in Sony's favor in regards to the vita.

No Commercials
No "try it out stands" in the gameshops
No flagship game
High price

You do get alot of great tech for the price, but that dosn't matter for me, if someone wanted to sell me 100000$ worth of gold bars, for 50000$, thats great, but i still cant afford it. Now that example is greatly simplified but it's a strong analogy.

On top of it all, they managed to make the Vita look so similar to the PSP, i bet most people walking into a gameshop wont know that it's a totally different beast.

Turning tide you say....what tide, it's just the same stagnant water we've been seeing for a while now.
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Chitown71291  +   995d ago
@Andibandit
Dude.....thats so exaggerated . No one can afford $50000. But $250 for the Vita is a steal. Your a gamer I assume. And 9 times out of 10 , unless your a child that , every gamer has a smart phone. You know what a smart phone these days cost without a contract? 499-599 EASY! Your telling me that for a portable device, that cost as much as your phone does WITH a two year contract, that you can't afford it? No.....you can afford it, its just where you don't want to put your money right now. As of now, I would get a Vita solely because of its features , which I want Sony to get right this time, and which I feel they will.

@GrandTheftZamboni: I know dude! I told you they delivered on the games front......I just wanted the features to be more awesome.......buts its all good, Because, i know Sony is gonna get it right with their next console. This is really their first time in the online arena, so tbh its not fair to put that against them. I think they did wonderful for their first time!
Persistantthug  +   996d ago
Considering that MICROSOFT seems to only really be interested in Kinect these days...
The author should ask his coworker friends how they feel come mid May or so.
TekoIie  +   996d ago
I think it's more about them trying to get all multiplat games to utilise it in some way. Me3 did it pretty well so I didn't have to pause to use powers that weren't mapped. GRFS kinect gameplay is a joke but using it for gun smith is pretty cool.
Persistantthug  +   996d ago
@Pekolie...... I'm sorry....were you trying to sell me on Kinect?
Save your breath and efforts bro.....I know gimmick & worthless gaming bulls%!7 when I see it.

My 1999 Samsung Cellphone had voice command (sch 3500).....( I think I paid $100 for it.)
gamingdroid  +   996d ago
@Persistantthug

To some it is a gimmick, and to others it is a worthwhile feature.

In fact, some would say video games are gimmicky considering how it all started and what it still lacks today!
Nimblest-Assassin  +   996d ago
Oh god... not Bitchmob again

All they do is whine and complain, just dismiss this as nonsense.

He wants Sony to kill the playstation brand...

Why do so, when the playstation brand is so popular? And then he goes on to talk about the 360.

I hope you guys can see this is flame bait, and do not try to look up what he is rambling on about
JoeReno  +   996d ago
Sony isn't dumb enough to kill the Playstation brand. Its one of the few areas where Sony as a whole is doing well.

I'm sure the the VPs at Sony are rolling their eyes at this flame bait like the rest of us
Merrill  +   996d ago
Articles & so called journalists/writers like this need to die.
dboyc310  +   996d ago
sony is gaming !!! until this day Sony is the only company that have been giving gamers what they want and thats GAMES!! They off new and innovative IPs and they will most likely get the crown next gen. This gen they did a lot of mistakes and im sure they learned.
kikizoo  +   996d ago
"How can Sony make the name PlayStation synonymous with quality game experiences in the minds of the millions of players that only started taking the hobby seriously within the last generation or two?"

hmm because it's again the best brand for the last "generation, or two"...poor bitmob delusional fanboy :)

"I don't know, fortunes can always change. I mean, the PS2 was way more popular than the Xbox, and then the swapped places in the next cycle. "

hmm no, ps3 has better hardware and software (just facts), and really close (or even beyond) xbox in sales, so you can't compare with ps2/xbox generation.
CHARLIEBROWNE  +   996d ago
The most flame bait troll article in history ever.
xtremeimport  +   996d ago
SO because he got made fun of, he thinks the Playstation brand should be killed?
lol K.
THESONYPS3  +   996d ago
Got a problem with our company brands? We are technically ahead of 360 in sales because we are like 3 million of and ccame out a year late. W easily get over 11 million on average each year. We arecatching up quickly :)
Septic  +   995d ago
Wow....fanboyism so extreme that the user refers to the playstation brand as himself. And he gets agrees for it.

Lol at the comment section of this site. SDF kids and their rants. Comedy gold.
scissor_runner  +   996d ago
The name was not the cause of sonys success or failure. Sony succeeded because of new media formats that gave them the lion share of developers. This is the one key reason for their success.

The problem with blu ray is it was only needed for story based hd games which fell to the dominance of fps games with online. Another problem is price and the fact there are no Oscar worth video game stories.

Then there is the empty hype... And promises. Multiplatform quality is the reason why America buys Xbox games. Many people in America do not like Sony exclusive games or their controller. Xbox had this problem and a new controller was made, Sony ignores this so America ignores them. Plus America has a long history of fps LAN parties, it's been in our culture since doom 1 dm.

Back to the empty hype... Sure the cell was a great idea but we have too many pc gamers that know why multi core chips are good or bad. It's been agreed by professionals that this chip was more hype like intel cheating on benchmarks... If you do see it in software then it doesn't matter. It did not help that pc gpus passed the ps3 that same year in performance. Yet fans continue to say how powerful it is, maybe this could best be described as emotionally powerful since the specs where shockingly good till the bottlenecks where exposed.

Unlike DVD blu ray is an elitist media similar to laser disk back in the day... Those guys almost hated video games thus they are not great evangelist. Lots of ps3 are only movie players because of this in the states.

On top of it all Sony got to see how weak they are without third parties. The wii is the only exception to the third party rule... As it was only designed to prefect 3d game play ideas.

The reason why you havnt seen most of this is because the media only likes to talk about flamebait ideas, there is no casual player only a skilled player and there are no loyal fans only consumers looking to be entertained.

Their are graphic whores though lol yet plenty of people who enjoy cg art and creativity also. Ps3 does try to have original art yet they only really need better game play and controls and addictive games design. Sony is almost there but they will need to correct their studios more to succeed. The playstation brand is one of the coolest brands out. Yet so was Atari. It's not the brand it's the games.

Plus more power may help Sony on the ps4 yet if that power doesn't get showcased with fun addicting and engaging games then they will fall flat and that power becomes a very expensive gimmick.
Moentjers  +   996d ago
You are talking about the North Americas I presume. I only saw a lot of friends getting a PS3 this fall/winter, main reasons are still the strong brandname and the price. Those aren't people that check the gamesnews every day but just go to the local store to get a 'Playstation'.
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Eddie20101  +   995d ago
It's that time of the month. the Xbots are on the rag. how else would explain all the miss directed anger.
morkendo23  +   995d ago
with my only bubble:

who wrote this shit?? lonely fanboy trying to get hits??
Darth_Bane79  +   995d ago
Please report the person that posted this for posting flamebait articles to gain hits.
Hueynewton2012  +   995d ago
This site needed the hits, so i hope objective users didn't give this well known xbox fanboy site. the hits it was looking for. BTW these sites are increasingly putting out anti Sony articles again because the Xbox doesn't have anything to talk about gaming wise that PS3 doesn't have as well sighhhhhhhhhhh. Flame me if want i actively play both systems. Xbox gamertag: HueyNewton2010/ PSN spenn2008

When your too cheap or poor to purchase both systems and its games you become one sided and ignore the facts of quality. The only feature i prefer on xbox is the party chat and THATS it, oh i will be purchasing the Witcher 2 soon. That's the only unique game the 360 has to offer 360 only owners and its not even a system exclusive.

If the Playstation dies, Hard core console gaming DIES its as simple as that.
THR1LLHOUSE  +   996d ago
I think the better idea would be to not release a console later than the competition and also costs more.

The problem isn't with the PlayStation brand, it's just Sony kinda screwing things up in general. They've been playing catchup ths whole generation, but like the comment above me said, the ps2 was the shit. It's not like people just got instantly sick of the brand.
Megaman_nerd  +   996d ago
this article speaks the truth. Even within the fighting community where 95% of the tournaments are held on PS3 consoles a 99.9%% of all the players only game on the Xbox just because they all think the PS3 is lame for no apparent reason at all. But it seems this brand problem is just in the US though....
TopDudeMan  +   996d ago
I think your proportions are exaggerated a fair bit, there, old chap. I'd say about a 60/40 split is much more realistic.

I mean the 99.9%. I mean, that'd mean there'd be 99.9 xbox fighting game players for every 0.1 ps3 fighting game player.
How can anyone disagree with that?
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TheGamingArt  +   996d ago
Did you just state that ....... really
TopDudeMan  +   996d ago
^Your comment was most helpful.
TheUnbiasedLion  +   996d ago
Yeah this "BRand" problem is clearly from a US perspective and even then the article goes over board a bit its not that bad.

I think the ps brand is sony's staple liek the walkman brand used to be before it and its the only one turning a profit atm.
Tito08  +   996d ago
As far as I know, tournament players, for some dumb reason, game on the Xbox(must be that lame "perfect flame" excuse or Cross game chat), yet, fighting games are sold & are played more on the PS3, knowing a great community of players in my area that are fighting game players, plus those in foreign countries, especially in my homeland Dominican Republic, & others like Peru & Ecuador(Some tournament players play Tekken on dualshocks BTW)....

Out of all my fighting game friends, only 3 play on 360, & I whopped their asses with so much ease on their Xboxs, I don't think their claims on that "more responsive" or "perfect flaming" BS is any valid to be honest, as far as I can tell, it is totally the same on both systems, both systems play the games well, & are responsive!!!!!

They might be totally tournament players, but anyone of us in N4G, no matter if we are PS3 or Xbox players, can whoop their asses for sure, because they're not athletes, & I already know friends of mines that can destroy them for sure, especially dumb-ass Justin Wong!!!!
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Godmars290  +   996d ago
This "article" is no different than when the Xbox 360 first came out.

How does this kind of mentality persist?
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scotchmouth  +   996d ago
Inbreeding is the answer to your question.
VanillaBear  +   996d ago
It's a shame most gamers new to this gen hate the PS3 for no reason, but because the 360 was cheaper, and still is, plus the fact most people choose the 360 because there friends do (and so on) because of social situations like how they don't want to miss out when they all talk on live and play COD...it's understandable why this has happened. The PS3 is great and the amount of love Sony shows for it and their fanbase is amazing....it makes me sad people nitpick at the smallest things Sony do even if other companies like Nintendo or MS do it.

All I have to say though is if you play on your 360 because of those reasons, always play on FPS and have never played games like Heavy Rain, Uncharted, inFAMOUS, Metal Gear Solid 4 etc...then how can you call yourself a gamer.

I mean I have a friend who hates the PS3 for a silly reason....he can't afford one.
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raytraceme  +   996d ago
It's funny how people say the ps3 is more expensive than the xbox when the xbox, after the cost of a hard drive and a year of gold, is more than a 160gb ps3.
Prototype  +   996d ago
Uninformed people, and "follow the leader" types don't see that; they buy into hype and what other people say rather than fact and taking the time to research.
VanillaBear  +   996d ago
Thats the thing though....people these days need things to be obvious

It's all about common sense to be honest

For example, if people saw two items for sale

Item 1 = £300

Item 2 = £200 + £40 + £65

They would think straight away Item 1 was more expensive because it LOOKS more expensive at a first glance.

It's silly people still say the PS3 is way more expensive when really, after you've worked it out, it's not.
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irepbtown  +   995d ago
PS3 is more expensive because the PS3 costs more.
The xbox only gets more expensive once you add LIVE and all the extra bibs and bobs.

PS3, £229.99 (cheapest I can find for 320gb).
XBOX 360, £177.99 (cheapest I could find for 250gb) - NOT EBAY!

This Ultimately means the PS3 is more expensive. Doesnt make it better or worse, just proves the PS3 is more expensive.
cstyle  +   996d ago
I don't think that most gamers hate the ps3. Its just more people like xbox better this gen than they did last gen. There is plenty room for both. Its a huge market.
xPhearR3dx  +   996d ago
This. I've owned both, and I actually hated the Xbox last gen. This gen, I prefer the 360, but I don't hate the PS3 either. Thankfully, I haven't missed out on great games like LBP, Heavy Rain, Killzone, MAG, MGS4 etc. But if I have the option of playing a game on 360, I always do.
Prototype  +   996d ago
PlayStation brand is the reason why I still hold faith in gaming today. If PlayStation was to die out, I'd actually either stick to the older games released or find a new hobby.
THC CELL  +   996d ago | Well said
Unknown sites need to die
Chitown71291  +   996d ago
/-___- *salutes*
LOL_WUT  +   996d ago
Unknown sites need to die
Well said.
aDDicteD  +   996d ago
best comment in this article, nice!
Ult iMate  +   996d ago
Poor fanboyish game journalism need to die also.
gtxgamer2  +   996d ago
Ive been with the playstation family since ps1 an i will never change. #sonyforlife.
Ulf  +   996d ago
I didn't realize how ignorant some young people can be until I got old and started trying to read their articles.

Was I as ignorant of the truth, as this guy, when I was young? Man its scary to think so.
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Dogswithguns  +   996d ago
PS2 4ever..
Ryo-Hazuki  +   996d ago
Xbox has 2 million more install base than PS3 but the playstation brand needs to die??? Well if sony could get the ps4 out at the same time as xbox and not be the most expensive console off the bat than this guy will eat his words. Funny article
Godmars290  +   996d ago
Amazing how when Xbox1 was 80+ million behind the PS2 no one was "seriously" talking about that brand name going away.

Heck, Nintendo took their hit with the N64 and NGC and people only expected them to remain for the long run.

Guess most of the PS-hate comes from the Dreamcast, even though that was Saga's fault.
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Jazz4108  +   996d ago
I own both consoles but choose to game on the 360 because the ps3 is a pain to navigate and always is trying to make me update firmware or install this and that. I just want to game and I know a lot of other people choose the 360 for ease of use and live and more consistant multiplat game experiences. This is just my opinion and my reason but as I said I do own both and do choose to play on 1 a heck of a lot more then the other for these reasons and a few more not listed.
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Crystallis  +   996d ago
So basically you play the 360 more bc you have a lot of friends who play the 360. The updates are far less annoying to me then navigating xbox live, that's my opinion anyway.
Parapraxis  +   996d ago | Funny
" ps3 is a pain to navigate "
Yes...up/down/left/right is difficult to master.
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dalibor  +   996d ago
Seriously, how much simpler can the XMB interface be? And updating firmware goes for both systems. Both systems are easy to use, easier than a computer that you are using right now. Ehh I just don't get it. It's alright that you don't like the PS3 but at least don't make it seem like the Ps3 is the only system that gets firmware updates.
MysticStrummer  +   996d ago
The XBL menu is a big mess. XMB is sooo much better, imo. You play on 360 because your friends do. Period. Live is no more stable than PSN. You're really paying for those social features, even though they make you pay to play online also.
memots  +   996d ago
Your one bubble says a lot.
Septic  +   995d ago
I'm sorry but all you Sony fanboys need to take a step back a little.

The PS3 is a pain to navigate and operate a lot of the time in comparison to the 360. Let me spoon feed to you how:

* Mandatory installs- this is a joke. This takes an age on the PS3 on many games. Also take into account downloading demos. On the 360 you can download a demo and that is, start playing when its finished downloading. On the PS3, you download, then install then play.

* Updates- the same updates install in under 7 seconds on the 360. These updates average around 5-10 minutes on the PS3. Why? But I'm sure you kids will be content with that (had it been the other way round you would have mocked the 360 outright).

* The interface- it has evolved several times over the years. Sony have invested hardly any if no time at all updating it.

* Messages- the ORIGINAL Xbox even had a more streamlined way of chatting with your mates online (via the dashboard). On the PS3 I watch my little brother constantly sending messages he has to type out all the time. No party chat- well that's obvious but even deluded kids on here have argued against it. So much for a cohesive online environment.

"The updates are far less annoying to me then navigating xbox live, that's my opinion anyway. "

Navigating Xbox live is in no way hard unless you suffer from mental disabilities. In fact- using the marketplace etc is far better.

"The XBL menu is a big mess. XMB is sooo much better, imo. "

Wow. ANd in my opinion you clearly you don't know what you're talking about. The comparatively slow-loading uninspired XMB interface with its silly exhaustive list isn't a mess?

I know this site is dominated by 90% Sony fanboys, but sometimes I cannot resist the urge to step in and knock some sense into you kids. You kids would argue that black is white in a desperate attempt to save face.
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DarkSniper  +   996d ago | Well said
This article is absolute hogwash. If this particular writer wishes (Alex Young) death on the PlayStation name, then Dark Sniper shows no mercy on any emotions that the author may feel.

The fact is simple as this. PlayStation has been a key influence in our daily lives since it's inception in 1995. With over 250 million consoles sold across three generations, the PlayStation brand name has been etched in stone as THE household name when it comes to consumer electronics.

There is no need for any changes to an already successful platform that gives gamers the most extensive library of quality gaming content and provides versatile multimedia functions for any and all owners to enjoy. PlayStation has always been at the forefront of enhancing the living room with new features and media that were not readily available to the public (cd-rom,DVD,Blu-Ray etc.)

As much as there are doubters and naysayers who wish doom and gloom on PlayStation, the fact is that it isn't going anywhere. Dark Sniper will continue to enjoy his PlayStation experience beyond PlayStation®3. When PlayStation 4,5 and 6 finally does reach the market, there is nothing that this writer or anyone else can do to stop the Sony train of success.

$niper
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Outside_ofthe_Box  +   996d ago
DarkSniper, LX-General-Chaos, and EvilDead360 should all have a brawl lmao.
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squallheart  +   996d ago
Well said bubble for you. The only consoles I game on is on playstation and dreamcast (yup i still have it). I tried the 360 but just couldn't find my self to like it. The game arent varied and so far only two titles peaked my interest one of them I was able to get on PC anyway. I noticed all this hate on playstation when it was sony who took chances and still does with different studios. I hope it continues on and I will be a strong supporter. Everytime I ask someone why do you hate playstation they try to over reach for an answer. They either say the controller sucks or psn store is horrible.
Godmars290  +   996d ago
Actually want to give him a bubble for it, but then he keeps writing his own name in the 3rd person.

Writing. His NAME. In the 3rd person. The 3rd person.
thehusbo  +   996d ago
Wise words of wisdom as usual.

Well said bubbles.
torchic  +   996d ago
who needs Kevin Butler when you can have DarkSniper?

very well said. +bubbles
PixL  +   996d ago
Dear author of the text. I checked your profile and saw that you have an avatar with a small girl, possibly your daughter. What would you say if somebody wrote that she should die? Would it stir your emotions? I think everybody knows the answer. Of course, a company brand is not a human being, by very, very far. But still, many people have lived many years with this brand and associate it with some great moments of joy. Just like a person, to some extend, without any direct comparison.

So, next time, before you sit down and try to grab for hits writing something like this, think of that. Would you want somebody to wish dead to somebody you loved? Or to wish dead to you? It's not worth it, really.
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Moncole  +   996d ago
I wonder how fast this will be top article
GraveLord  +   996d ago
http://n4g.com/news/968421/...

Coming from the same guy who is suing Sony lmfao. Good luck with that!
Parapraxis  +   996d ago
Actually different guys.
None-the-less, both articles are f***ing stupid.
TheGamingArt  +   996d ago
I'm sorry, but the unexplained hate is the only thing negative with the Playstation brand.. and that's coming from just the US market. Ask anyone and they'll tie Playstation with the 'Apple' like branding of gaming AKA high quality grade. I thought an opinion of high quality was good?
M83_  +   996d ago
I don't want it to die. What would the alternative be like? 2-3 exclusives from Microsoft a year with fuck all variety. Call me a fanboy but I've only had a ps3 for 2 years so I weighed up both consoles and knew what I was getting myself into.
The only thing xbox has over the ps3 is online (It doesn't bother me because I don't see the difference) and next gen will be totally different because the ps3 will be built around it so it will have the games, the online, and variety lacking in the xbox.
Personally I see the ps4 making a big come back, maybe not number one but ahead of the xbox based on the trends I'm seeing with the ps3 and vita.
BrianC6234  +   996d ago
He sure works with a lot of losers. Just what we want. The gaming industry to be all about Microsoft and all games to be shooters. Microsoft wouldn't even be into console gaming if it wasn't for Sony showing everyone it's okay for adults to be gamers. I sure don't want to see Sony out of gaming.
JeffGUNZ  +   995d ago
Don't the most popular games (killzone/uncharted) involve shooting?
BrianC6234  +   995d ago
That's about all the 360 has though. There's plenty of games not considered shooters. The PS3 has a lot of them. Nothing against Microsoft and the 360 but I don't want them to be the whole gaming industry.
JeffGUNZ  +   995d ago
Forza, Fable, Assassins Creed, Lost Odyssey, Marvel Vs. Capcom, Final Fantasy, etc...I don't think it has anything to do with a system, it's just FPS are popular now and what are selling, so more companies develop them now. Each system has a varied selection of games to choose from to think the PS3 is a more varied system is a wrong thought. You can play tons of games that are not FPS on either system.
ExitToExisT  +   996d ago
if u says so..
SageHonor  +   996d ago
Clearly somebody looking for hits but yeah in a few hours it'll have 800 degrees and on the front page
SlowBurn  +   996d ago
Dog chases tail...
The one man band plays on in an empty auditorium.....
happpy11  +   996d ago
Flambait article.
Apocalypse Shadow  +   996d ago
MARKETING!

microsoft didn't spend all their money creating a better product.they spent all their money making people believe that their system was better.

the system broke down often,they made you pay for high priced accessories to even equal ps3, makes you pay for basically an ONLINE PASS every year just to game with others,then raised the ONLINE PASS price and added features gamers didn't need and closed most of their studios.

then added worthless studios that add no value to the company,doesn't create new franchises or bring back classics like crimson skies,rallisport,etc.they have no new mmos and cancelled most of them.they spend money making gamers believe that exclusive DLC is something great when it's not even a full game,they make contract with third parties to dumb down their games sothat ps3 doesn't have and advantage....because we all know that all this DLC sh!t would fit on a bluray disc.

perception is key.and yes sony missed the boat in marketing ps3 to the eggheads in america that have been fooled by microsoft.wanting to game on other systems is fine.but microsoft gives nothing.only takes away as much money they can from the gamer.

somehow a better system with free online,with PS+ giving you free content,MMOs you can play for free,new franchises,old franchises brought back and some remastered,no region lock outs on games,a free 3D online community,3D games before anyone,high def movies and upscaled dvds,the list goes on and on is somehow beyond the american and english understanding of VALUE.

yes.microsoft pulled the wool over on a lot of gamers this gen.can't wait to see what they do for next gen with all that marketing money.

and just so you know,i am american.but i'm a wise consumer first.
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M83_  +   996d ago
You're right. If Sony seriously upped the advertising and marketing their producs would do so well. I know the games speak for themselves but that doesnt draw all the non gamers in.
Normally I wouldn't care if their games sold fuck all as long as they're still really good, which they are, it's just that I don't want them selling out and reducing exclusive and focusing on the casual like another certain videogame company...
torchic  +   996d ago
you're right. if Sony can advertise PlayStation in the States like they do here in Europe, then PS3/PS4/PSVITA will be (more) successful there.

here in Europe, Sony has the best advertising space in the EU, arguably in the world; one of the official sponsors of the UEFA Champions League. that in my opinion is a big reason why PlayStation sells so well here. Sony is synonymous with football here, and that's huge.

Sony needs to build something like that in America.
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Hicken  +   996d ago
I laughed as I imagined how someone would refute your claims that the PS3 is better.

As a system, the 360 is pretty good(since the Slim, anyway). But MS has definitely dropped the core gaming ball in recent years. As an American myself(and a seller of video games and systems), I'm embarrassed when I see how blind people are. And I tend to get a little annoyed that people think we're ALL like that.

But Microsoft spent their money on marketing, and at least here in the US, it's paid off.
OMEGAZONE  +   996d ago
Biggest troll article this site has ever seen.
Kran  +   996d ago
I dont think it needs to die. Despite flaws Playstation has had over the past few years (with the hack and everything), Sony has certainly done all it can to bring the Playstation brand back up, and honestly, I think they've done it well.

I mean look at the community they've achieved. Massive!

Getting rid of the brand now would be the biggest mistake Sony would ever make (I rhymed!!!)
Drainage  +   996d ago
they are already phasing it out with the SEN PSN thing. Im sure the next Ps4 will be called the Sony Entertainment Station
Edward75  +   996d ago
This is the thing, Sony as a gaming company will be around. But it is time to drop the Playstation name. Very high percent chance that "Playstation" will be dropped from Sony's next console. It makes sense. All/ or many of us will buy the next system whatever it was named. New name, new and fresh, easier to revitalize market around it. Like I stated,most hardcore gamers wouldn't care about the name.....
BigBoss1964  +   996d ago
Drop the Playstation name? that makes no sense why would they drop a well known and established brand name
Edward75  +   996d ago
@bigboss it may be established and known, but changes are needed whenever a company goes from top of the hill (last gen Sony was definitely number 1 hands down ) to possibly 3rd. This is not because of the great games.. It's marketing.. We all know the name, but it isn't working. Bigtime lead to last... (as far as profit, system sales, everything that matters to the company). That is EXACTLY why a name change is in order. Sony has the potential to be #1 again. All companies do it, it is time, give us a fresh new name, drop the Playstation name.
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sypher  +   996d ago
The article is just so dumb it doesnt warrant a response. The Playstation is highly successful, just because its not #1 in America doesnt mean it has to die. Must be stupid teenagers writing these articles.
TheDivine  +   996d ago
I find that people who hate the 360 or ps3 are ignorant and dont know anything about them. All the people who say the 360 has no games or only one or two interest them have never acually looked through the library. If only 2 games interest you out of 6 years of retail, original xbox games, and xbla releases then your just not a gamer. People who say the ps3 sucks for whatever reason can never be swayed, theyve made up their minds already. Both consoles have tons of great games that cant be found on the other so people with one really are missing out.

Dont forget about nintendo either. People rule it out because its not hd (i myself have neglected it over shiny pretty games on ps3/360) but the fact is the wii has just as many great games. Theres some of the most hardcore shooters, platformers, fighters, rpgs, srpgs, and nintendo remembers that fun comes because everything else, gameplay first. Kid Icarus has reminded me why i loved the big N in the first place.
honkyjesus  +   995d ago
Wii does not have as many great games as the others unless you really dig Mario or Pet the Pony. Nintendo let the console die three years after launch and you are backing them up? Great job.
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