Neigh says the man from Chicago! But with opinion in a state of flux and the 'professionals' to busy to comment on the topic let's have a closer look at the argument at hand and the artistic side of gaming.
Art is hard to define these days.
No its not, Art is borin, all you do is look at a paintin then move on to the next paintin "hmmm, oh yes, it looks divine darling" Take the Mona Lisa for example, wtf, its just a paintin of some women, i wouldnt buy it, pay to to see it, even if i had all the riches in the world i wouldnt pay no more than £10 for it Games show you more than just a paintin, games take you behind the paintin, you immerse yourself into them Ive NEVER been to an art gallery, IF i was, id like to go to the H R Giger museum in Switzerland http://www.hrgigermuseum.co... what he does is what i would call "art" Art of imagination
WTH are you talking about? lol
Anyone who poses the question "Can [blank] be art?" is an ignorant fool, and will always be no matter the answer...
For a couple years now, every time this question comes up, I've been quoting the response that Kellee Santiago of thatgamecompany gave: "We're not debating whether games are art anymore. Just say that they are. It allows us to move forward in a more thoughtful & positive position for talking about the future of video games."
Had I not already quoted Ebert I would have included that as well, but then I'd have turned the whole thing into a re post of two other people's opinions. I think Kellee is right, but I think in the end it won't matter. Kellee will, without tragic intervention, outlive Ebert and her opinion is one of a more relevant generation; ours. :p
Speaking of these two individuals in particular, I wonder what he has to say about Journey? Did he say anything about Flower that I don't know of? I'll wager it was something ignorant, if he said anything at all. I've never understood why people can't comprehend that things aren't tied down to only their interpretation of things. It would be like me- being a black male from inner city environments who'd HAD to run from the cops and duck a few bullets- saying that heavy metal isn't music because I didn't grow up listening to it. Of course, I DID grow up listening to it, and classical, and country, as well as rap, gospel, R&B, and so on, and that all colored my view on music; not a fan of the screaming in death metal, but the drummers in bands like Norma Jean are unreal, to say the least. I digress. What I'm getting at is that it's not terribly difficult for people to see outside their standard range, and yet sometimes they make it SO hard on themselves. Ebert seems to be one such individual, but I'm wondering if he could honestly sit and WATCH one of Kellee's games being played and then argue that what he's viewing isn't art.
This is a stupid question. Game development is an art. Who do think writes the stories? Designs the concept(art)? Uses 3D programs to SCULPT the models and design the worlds?
It is a stupid question, did you read the entire article?
Video games are art BUT developers aren't artists.
So video games are art...but those who create video games aren't artists... If your job is to create things that are considered works of art, aren't you an artist?
Arts are created by artists though, see the problem? I personally see games as 'interactive art' but then some would argue that it's because they are interactive that they can't be art. You can win a game, but not you don't earn credit points for staring down the Mona Lisa. :P
For something that people don't considered art, it sure takes a lot of artists to create.
Its art in the USA and there for free speech.
Unfortunately I exist in a country where "Games are Art" isn't a logical excuse to bunk homework... Yet anyway.
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