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Submitted by gulevski 999d ago | opinion piece

Next in The Metal Gear Series: Action to Replace Stealth?

It has been almost four years since “Metal Gear Solid 4: The Guns of the Patriots” was released for the PlayStation 3. Like the previous games in the series, “Guns of the Patriots” received near perfect reviews and multiple awards when it was released by Kojima Productions. In 2009, Hideo Kojima, director of Kojima Productions, officially confirmed that there would be a fifth installment of the Metal Gear Series coming to PlayStation and Xbox 360; “Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance.” (Metal Gear Solid, PC, PS3, Xbox 360)

Nyxus  +   999d ago
When did Kojima say he didn't see himself working on a traditional Metal Gear game again, and that Rising is the future? He already said that fans who want a traditional Metal Gear game 'have to be patient', which sounds like it's on the way.
Snookies12  +   999d ago
Yeah, if a Metal Gear that Kojima is working on ever "stops" being stealth, I'll have lost my faith in gaming. :\
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Kenshin_BATT0USAI  +   999d ago
I recall him saying Rising isn't canon and that it could be it's own separate series if it wants. Sounds like he wants the Solid series to be stealth.
RedDead  +   999d ago
......4 was more of an action game imo...you could just do stealth if you wanted to.
Ravenor  +   998d ago
Guys, guys...I think what RedDead meant to say is that Stealth is always an option, but in most scenarios in the game you could feasibly shoot your way through just fine.
dark-hollow  +   998d ago
Its a spin off people!!!
Its not gonna effect the solid series in any way!!!

Its like OMG They made halo wars so every halo game gonna be RTS!!1!1!1
Xof  +   999d ago
Hasn't that always been the case with Metal Gear? I remember going into the second game as a kid, after hearing about what a great stealth game forever, only to give up on it after the first boss because, suddenly, MGS2 thought it was an action game.

Seems to be a common flaw for a lot of Stealth games: make badass stealth gameplay, then toss in boss fights that ignore stealth gameplay mechanics.
Solid_Snake37  +   999d ago
Mgs3 fixed that
Baka-akaB  +   999d ago
The boss in MGS1 werent exactly stealth based for at least quite a few of them . So yeah it's common .
But thena gain what kind of stories and scenes can you tell about you just sneaking behind a boss and slicing his throat ? Doesnt leave many option if you still tell a story , or uless you go for the tale of some dude killing rather anonymous foes .

And mgs3 actually went back further into stealth . MGS4 went action again but optionally . With the option and challenge to completely go stealth if you're a purist . Felt like a win win to me , instead of just making it impossible for the least patients .
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cpayne93  +   998d ago
Yeah none of the boss fights in mgs are stealth based but what's wrong with that? Most of the gameplay is still stealth based, and the boss fights in mgs are well done and mix things up a bit. I would rather have the awesome boss fights with the stealth then stealth alone, makes things interesting and changes up the pace.
Akiba96  +   998d ago
Agree with your comment but I do not agree with "none of the boss fights in mgs are stealth based"

A few that were almost purely stealth based were: The End; Crying Wolf. Come to think of it, most of the mgs boss battles included some stealth elements like getting out of sight and making the boss unaware of your position. So you could then get behind then and shoot them in the back( like The Fury) I remember that this was key to beating some of the bosses on the hardest difficulties.
cpayne93  +   998d ago
@Akiba yeah you're right, got carried away there. ;)
FinaLXiii  +   999d ago
Rising Storm is a complety diferent style no stealth involved
DeadManMcCarthy  +   999d ago
Kojima should remake the first two Metal Gear games from the MSX.

I mean the MSX games were ported to the PS2 subsistence version of MGS3, but it's not very widely known. Ask the average person and they won't know jack about the MSX games or story.

Kojima should just remake those two games that way he could bring back a young Solid Snake and an evil Big Boss.

This Rising game looks like crap, I won't buy it. It looked good at first but now it's way too gimicky.
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Red_eyes_Gremlin  +   999d ago
Where is that picture coming from?

its BAD ASS ! :D
Nyxus  +   999d ago
That's from the VGA trailer.
Iceman X  +   999d ago
This is Metal Gear Rising, Not Metal Gear Solid 5. Which is 2 totally different games. MGS:5 will be GREAT as always, while i think MG:Rising will be something different, good but not on the level as MG5 will be.
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Dark11  +   998d ago
"good but not on the level as MG5 will be"
so you are comparing Action game with Stealth game?

alright then by that logic i can safely say the MG:R will be the best in the series cuz it will have more gameplay than 6 hours of cut scenes.
madjedi  +   998d ago
For the crap you people give mgs4 for it cutscenes at least it's better than most series uninspired
Typical fpser troll. There are many elements to a game, as shocking as it is to hear storyline is actually relevant to some gamer so is character development ect.

Kojima isn't touching it that is reason enough for metal gear fans to give it a skeptical outlook.

You sound like you would fit the 4th paragraph on my other post to a perfect tee.

Seriously a dec 2011 account, that is all i need to know, be gone troll.
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Baka-akaB  +   999d ago
It doesnt even try to wear the brand's full popular name , i doubt there is cause to concern there , other than expecting quality , whatever the genre chosen for the spin-off
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Son_Lee  +   999d ago
Rising doesn't try to be stealth, so there are no expectations for it to be, which is fine.
xBigxBossx  +   998d ago
This is not Kojimas baby, he handed it off to "Platinum Games". Kojima can't even give actual MGS material to his in house teams because they "do it wrong". MGSR is an action game and that's what it was stated from the beginning, that's why they took out the Tactical Espionage Action.
GillHarrison  +   998d ago
The next Metal Gear will definitely be like MGS4, you could go all Rambo if you wanted.
madjedi  +   998d ago
Yeah try doing that on harder difficulties and see how long you live, try to rambo too much and snake would start to crash.

People are too used to quick action twitch shooters with regenerating health and blazing through games on autopilot. And not being challenged to think of a solution, beyond the usual if it isn't dead yet shot it again or to slow down and try it from a different approach.

Going rambo is the mindless fps approach and the smart lethal approach is silent and deadly with silenced weapons and cqc knife kills.

Any idiot can run through mgs4 going crazy, setting off countless alerts and going rambo on easy difficulty killing 100+ people like a retard.

A true metal gear solid player, will go through trying to set off 0 alerts if possible, while not killing anyone because he or she wants to get the fox hound or better emblems.<-- These are metal gear players, the ones who probably broke a controller on the motorcycle section on big boss or harder modes going for their respective emblems.
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Lord_Sloth  +   998d ago
A true player plays for fun and in their own ways. Gill said you COULD go all action. Not that you should or definitely will.

On occasion I run through each entry in the series with a "Gunz blazin" mentality. Doesn't make me any less of a fan of the franchise as your statement suggests.
Shotcalm  +   998d ago
Velkommen etter da! fyfæn for noen idioter.
Omnislash  +   998d ago
As far as im concerned, Metal Gear Solid ended with 4 which was one of the greatest games this generation. If Metal Gear Solid 5 is made and replaces stealth AND is multiplat, I will still call MGS4 the last one, or at least the last REAL Metal Gear. I have faith in Kojima though, I know he will make another great exclusive.
THILLREBORN  +   997d ago
I've played and own all of the MG games except 3 and I don't mind an action game. MGR is another type of game nothing wrong with trying different things and it's being done by both Kojima and Platinum which is win win.

I think gamers need to grow up and stop acting like kids who don't want to try anything new.

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