Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City developer Slant Six Games has suggested that it doesn’t understand why the game has been panned by critics.
Maybe because we're fighting more people than Zombies in a game which takes place in the Raccoon City incident? Food for thought.
Not to mention, the numerous bugs and technical issues that many reviews have mentioned.
Who was surprised by this? Slant Six ruined the Socom franchise. They just aren't good at developing games that have originally been developed by another developer.
Any more bugs than MW3 or BF3 had the first day out? It's been almost 5 months and both of those games are still suffering from day one issues. Also I thought you people hated reviewers, something about their word couldn't be trusted and they whore themselves for money and blah-blah-blah-blah... oh now all of a sudden review scores matter. I'm picking this up once it's released for PC...the MP looked like it was a lot of fun and that's more than I can say for the heavy hitters out now.
Not to mention, it sucks.
@F7U12... Oh but didn't you know? When gamers decide to hate on something it is entirely ok if they betray everything they have been saying since the beginning of time so that they can hop on the hate train along with that critic! Not to mention anytime a beloved franchise is messed with even a little bit, people get up in arms. They wanted this to fail even before the negative review scores came in. As for me though, my problems with teh game come more from the fact that the game auto-sticks you to cover, your auto aim tracks targets through solid objects, Slant Six hired entirely incompetent voice actors and the weapons come off more like pea shooters given how many shots it takes to kill even the most basic enemy. That's just what I encountered in the first mission. Ugh.
@MAJ0R Zipper ruined Socom way before Slant Six (i.e. S3,S:CA). If anything Confrontation (after patches) brought Socom some dignity which was once again ruined by S4. Other than that, Slant Six is not very good with launching without bugs.
@snipes101 right well all of that can be tweaked and worked out with just a couple of updates. I really don't see the problem. BF3 on the other hand with its poor hit detection on PC and the input lag on PS3 5 months out, now that's a real problem.
Come on guys, blame S6? IF it wasn't for Crapcom pulling out a Wada (Western likes COD, make all our game COD-like) this game would have never saw the light of the day it was released...
Slant Six ruined the Socom franchise." lol actually zipper ruined socom name...
Slant Six screwed over Socom fans, now its time for them to screw over Resident Evil fans. It took almost 2 years for all the bugs to get ironed out on Socom: Confrontation, so I would expect more of the same with this game.
Confrontation launched with many bugs.. this is true, but my biggest disappointment was the fact that they shipped a game that was not finished. Not to mention trophies being patched in later, oh.. and has anyone seen the requirements for the trophies in that game. They're near impossible!!!
I will explain everthing for you sir: Your game is a pile of shi* It's an horror/survival series and not something like Call of Duty. Are you crazy? Make a real/proper survival/horror game if you want a better review. If you want to make COD games don't use the "Resident Evil" brand.
Is it really 'that' bad though? 3/10 etc? Honestly judging from the vids is definitely not that low...but what do I know?
Its not that bad. I don't think anyone expected a AAA goty from them. Its a solid 6 or 7 unless you're taking points for it not being "resident evil" enough.
the reverse works too you know ... people wouldnt be trying to find positive things in it , if it wasnt a resident evil title . If it was a "just ok" new ip instead of a popular franchise's spin off , we wouldnt be talking about the game . So no imo it's not good enough and should be better
Why even play the "but is it THAT bad?" game when we've established that the game is well below par? The game is bad. It sucks. Reviewers rarely give review scores below 7s anyway; 1-6 is pretty much just dead space for 'a game not worth playing'
I'm expecting it to show up in the mail from Gamefly this week and I'm hoping it isn't as bad as some are making it out to be. However, I enjoyed RE5 while everyone was trashing it, so I may like it.
Yes it really is that bad. Watch the IGN review. The girl who did the review knows more about Resident Evil than the fucking developers of this game and the executives of Capcom who all deserve to be fired. This series died after Resident Evil 0. If you want survival horror Dead Space is the closest you're going to get. Resident Evil is just a call of duty wannabe now. Disgraceful.
The reason slate six is that no one trusts u anymore. You messed up with socom and there are bugs in this game so you need to fix them like right Damn now!
Because Zipper came out and showed us how SOCOM should be done with Navy Seals/4 right?
WTH no way.Socom confrontation is awsome now.Im sorry but zipper f&^ked the franchise with socom4 and MAg two of the biggest piece of shit games I have played in a while.Im not going to lie and say that I dont like RES OPR because I do.The controlls are smooth the game plays so well.I havnt come across any problems at all with the game.Its not the best game out there but its fun and im enjoying every second of it.Until you havbe played the game personally then you really dont have a place in here to make a comment.
Socom confrontation was at least trying to be a socom game, Socom 4 was just a complete disaster.
@finbars75, i liked MAG
"FinancialGamer Because Zipper came out and showed us how SOCOM should be done with Navy Seals/4 right?" Trollface.jpg :P That's the truth right there, Socom 2 was the peak of the franchise, everything else just can't hold on much in this day an age where gamers want killstreaks/perks + autoaim and laser-like shots in their shooters, but the Socom Hardcore crowd wants the old formula Catch22: is if it's not like COD, it'd not sell and if your change the formula of the old games to be like COD, it'd not sell as well, unless you can afford a giant ad-campaign :P
^MAG is awesome. Wtf are you talking about?
Confrontation turned me off with $15 dlc, who do they think they are capcom?
Maybe because RE fans didn't want RE + SOCOM mix. I personally was excited at first for maybe a RE + L4D type playstyle. Til I saw how the game really was.
You've played the game or only read reviews?
I was chaating with a bunch of dudes while playing the game when I mentioned the game got 4 out of ten on ign we aagreed that reviewers didn't know what they were doing anymore and we continued to play well off into the night... for hoursss nd we had fun
The game is awesome no if's or buts about it!
TBH I think a reviews of anything should not be taken in by anyone as this is there point of view on the game. Its like people who review the new Iphones and say its amazing and the changes in it are more advanced than anyothere phone out there. Yet it is the same OS as was on the Original Iphone. Or a review for a film saying its the best film ever but when you go and watch it its crap. Its all personal choice at the end of the day look at homefront last year. Yes it was by along way not the best fps game ive ever played but it was better than the reviews I had seen. The biggest problem with this world at the moment is there are a lot of sheep out there who decide things on other peoples words rather then trying it for them selfs. If you like something that someone else dose not like so what as long as your happy with it who cares.
@MAJOR - How did Slant Six ruin the SOCOM franchise after only developing one SOCOM game?
Clearly you must have never played socom confrontation to make an idiotic comment like that.
well i thought they ruined socom then i played the Sh*t pool that is socom 4. So i had to go back on what i said about slant six ruining socom and gave the title back to the original holder ZIPPER.
@Commander - I played SOCOM Confrontation and it was crap but it was the only game developed by Slant Six. SOCOM 4 was developed by Zipper. I would make more of the comment that Zipper ruined the franchise by not redeeming the overall franchise when they released SOCOMAG 4. Not sure why you needed to make a statement that my comment was "idiotic" when its obvious you didn't understand my comment.
They also made ftb3 on the psp, which threw away most of the tactical open level emphasis of the first two games and replaced it with linear levels and regenerating health.
That's not quite the reason why. I would suggest Slant Six listen/read the reviews instead of just looking at scores.
Here Slant 6 let me help you to understand!!!!!!!! Your Call of Duty clone SUCKS! I hope that makes it more clear for you!! Thanks for wasting the Resident Evil name on shovelware!!
In a way I feel sorry for slant 6. To be quite honest they take big risks by making games in established franchises. Just look at the heat Ninja theory are getting for the Devil May cry reboot. When slant 6 messed up Socom Confrontation all socom fans screamed out for zipper. When zipper finally made a new Socom everyone was screaming for a game like socom confrontation. I really hate Capcom this gen and they deserve to get some reception like this but from the videos I've seen the game looks pretty good and I've witnessed some of the tech issues and bugs in this game on other games that scored way higher.
SOCOM Confrontation was the exact same way. Ton's of problems with animation, environmental glitches galore. I'll give them credit though, they patched the hell out of it and in the end the game didn't turn out too bad...
Of course they don't understand. It's same lack of understanding that has led to the development of this shoddy work. They don't understand how to make good games.
Except everyone who's playing it is enjoying it you wouldn't know though
Yeah, I played it for about 15 minutes earlier today. It's on the mundane/monotonous side of average, and apparently has numerous AI bugs and gameplay/design issues to boot that I didn't get to see (and don't really care to either, based on my time with it). Yeah, I like totes wouldn't know.
I'm not convinced that 15 minutes is enough time to properly evaluate a game. Maybe it just wasn't for you, but unless a game were truly trashed by EVERYONE who played it, I can't imagine 15 minutes would be enough time to properly evaluate a game. When Arkham Asylum came out I played the demo, and afterwards thought "Meh, it was ok. I don't think I'll ever pick it up though." After hearing tons of my friends tell me how awesome it was I finally gave it a shot. That few minutes of the demo did NOT represent the game for me at all. I was very glad that I had given it a shot. So, for me your 15 minutes doesn't convince me that this game is as bad as you claim.
Gamefly is a God Send because i already knew this game was crap but had to validate the negative reviews for myself!!! And by and by this game owns up to the reviews set forth! playing single player shows all the faults of the Co-OP AI, the horrid AI of the enemies and the bland environments and cluncky character animations! honestly the characters aren't fun and the execution just wasnt done well! The game is a total fail on everything it set out to accomplish. Capcom needs to get it together This crap was really just an attempt to cash in on the Name's brand and the COD crowd, Slant Six honestly doesn't have the know how to make great games and are less than capable of handling a brand like this and i hope they dont sell anything worth to get a sequel out of his because its trash! This reviews are spot on, Mediocre on its best day. Its ok! you can shrug the reviews off all you want, the consensus stands among the reviewers and the vast majority of those who went out and got the game via renting or owning. The game sucks! Potential squandered to the very end!
No good background explanation for people new to the franchise is not fun(important in an older IP like RE). Watching yourself get killed with infinite melee combos is not fun. Having to knife someone over and over and over and over for one kill is not fun. Wonky camera angles are not fun. Brain dead co-op and enemy AI is not fun. Bullets have little stopping power. I'm not going to continue, i'm sure everyone but Slant 6 gets the point by now.
2-3 quick knife slahes followed by X does execution, TRI does special execution (ps3). Aim for the head, they go down much faster, harder difficulties take more shots so aim for head and conserve ammo with melee on weaker enemies. Also hooking up character abilties and unlocking better weapons help. Don't run head strong into spec ops guys or large melee based monsters. Make some friends and don't play alone. Spend more time learning the game rather then complaining on a internet forum, it can do you wonders. Game isn't perfect but me and all my friends are having fun with it and having no big problems that ruined our games.
We're allowed to have different opinions. Look, more people agree with both of us than not. Sure some of those issues can be solved by tailoring my game play and some can't. Overall I just didn't enjoy the game very much, but you and your friends did - and that's okay - there is room in the internet for both our opinions. It's important for people to hear both the good and the bad about a game before they buy it.
Slant Six, really? Alot of the reviews have stated exactly whats wrong with the game, and Slant Six is this daft? Let this be a testement that giving great franchises to incompetent devs will always fail.Resident Evil, Silent Hill and my beloved DMC. Butchered.
i agree for the most part, clearly when capcom decided to make this game they didnt consider slants previous "horrendous" work and NG3 without itagaki... and obsidian :/ and DMC...well im gonna wait on that one for now, i don't like t judge things until i have played them
obsidian??!! what!! are you kidding me? knights of the old republic 2 and fallout new vegas are some of the best RPGs out there, and both of this squeals are better then the original games, the sith lords>kotor new vegas>fallout 3
It's kinda disappointing when devs don't listen to complaints or when they say they don't "get" it. I mean, if multiple reviews and fans are saying the same thing, wouldn't it be wiser to listen to the complaints so you can improve on your next game? Hell, if a teacher told me that my essay needs [insert constructive criticism here], I'm not going to cover my ears and go "lalala! Can't hear you!" I'm going to listen to those complaints to I can do a better job next time.
to some degree, i agree. there is a time to listen to fans and a time to not. a time to listen to reviews and fans are with technical issues or features that just dont work well, need to be cut or improved in certain ways. i dont think its a good idea to listen to fans 100% of the time though becuase if you do that then some of the art of making a game is lost imo. it should be something like 60/40 or 70/30 with the majority being dev input and the other being fan input. tech issues should always be considered wherever they come from. the idiots at slant six are just mediocre to poor devs who just don't understand constructive criticism or even how to make a game properly. if they read any reviews about socom when they made that, they would know it was full of technical issues, glitches, and bugs. that should have been a priority to squash all those before release. and idk how a cover system like that would make it past testing
@Captain Qwark 9 right on the money listening to your fan base is great but 60/40 or 70/30 is a good number so dumb they don't listen to all the technical issues that this game has. Reminds me of Dead Island great game ruined by bugs.
I didnt no DMC was out yet...how is it? /s
I truly thought this game was gona be meh but after the 5 hours I played it for last night, its indeed socom with zombies and 10 tons of badassery and Im loving the game very much. There is a heafty number of weapons and powers to unlcok for each charecter so youll be doing th4 campaign for all the stuff, if not then for the insane zombie action. Id give it an 8 out of 10 since the AI is indeed on the short bus side and some of the technical problems I ran across were a little annoying but the game is awesome, like seriously.
Another thing to note, after they fixed the technical nightmare the socom they made was, it was truly socom and I loved the game dearly...compared to that shit zipper made and stuck Socom on the box w. Even MAG was better then the poor excuse for a socom they made...
other than socom 4, nearly every edition of the socom franchise done by zipper was exponetially better than the versions made by slant six. They did ok with the psp fireteam bravos but their ps3 games are real buggy.
slant six only did ftb3 and tactical strike, the others were done by zipper.
Yeah Zipper should of stuck with Mag and supported it.
MAG is my favorite online shooter period.
they should just patch it making weapons do double damage then people will be pleased it seems.
I don't really care for this game. If the main focus of a game is it's multiplayer. That means that game is not for me. I really enjoy single player campaigns better than multiplayer.
I had a chance to play it alot more last night and yea the AI is bad. When your fighting zombies it's so much fun but when mercs come out with guns it's boring. I'm not a computer engineer can the AI be fixed in a patch guys?
The game is garbage and that's no surprise
I have it, and im enjoying it the story so far is interesting and the (fight more then zombies remake is just silly.) your fighting RPD/USBC/and the army (all which make sense.) amongst classic Resident Evil G and T-Virus monsters. The team Ai isnt the best but it shines when me and friends co-op and just talk R.E while mowing down zombies, fun game its for the fans of the series, from the characters to the on the nose remarks, and level settings I feel you shouldnt bash a game if you have not played it, and basing your will you buy it or not based on a glorified fanboy review is simply silly.
Seems like anyone who says they are enjoying it seems to be getting disgreed with. I'm still wondering if half the people talking about it are going off of actual experience or merely reading and watching. Though reading and watching does give one some experience it does not in fact give them the overall experience at least not as much as playing it. So far I have heard quite a few saying don't expect GoTY material or even superb material but something that can be fun with friends. Really that's all I expect from games and if I can have fun with friends then I will surely at least look into it more. I probably won't look underneath the hood as much as others but I could probably still enjoy it. If some technical issues arise oh well I'm sure patches will fix them and while some will argue we shouldn't have to expect patches to fix things that shouldn't be broken in the first place. Well that I agree with but a lot of games these days have come out this way and a lot of people still praised the hell out of them and continue to play them. So hopefully others will say at least give it a try, go rent it at your local video store or something. Give it a go before pulling out the stick and joining the mob.
I agree, the game is fun if you play co-op with friends. But there are issues, one thing I didn't like it, is the hit detection. It almost feel like I didn't hit anything most time, unless you got head shot. I have to put LOTS bullets just to kill an enemy. AI just like many reviews says, useless. We, pretty much have to do everything ourselves, don't expect much help from AI. That being said, I like the level up/rank up system. Where we can purchase and upgrade abilities, weapons and of course the co-op parts. I think the game is fun and I think because it is a "Resident Evil" game so people have high expectation of the game. Still, I would not spend $60 to buy it.
I agree with what you added, the other night I tried to play it alone, and their is a Horror aspect, I wanted to hide under my blankets from the joke team AI, whos combat tactic is run out into the field to get shot, ripped apart by hunters, lickers, zombies, nemesis, Mr.X...so fworth and so on, and when you have to rely on them for help. hahaha...never seen so many game overs sins the original Ninja Gaiden. How you going to make a SQUAD game without giving me squad command controlls. Slant Six I boo you sirs, and ladies, I boo you.