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Submitted by fozzness 947d ago | opinion piece

Final Fantasy XII - Did you enjoy it? : RPG Gems

GamingUnion: "Final Fantasy XII does so much to reinvent the JRPG template that it hardly belongs in the same genre, much less part of the Final Fantasy series. Concepts like the "field map" and 'battle scenes' have all been blended together into a more cohesive whole." (Final Fantasy XII, PS2, Retro)

richierich  +   947d ago
Im a huge Final Fantasy fan (well I used to be) but FF12 and 11 are the only ones in the series I never bothered finishing. FF11 was too time consuming and FF12's battle system just didnt work out as good as the turn based system
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Kamikaze135  +   947d ago
One does not simply "finish" an MMORPG.
killerhog  +   947d ago
@richierich I stopped after 8. I played 4, 6, and 8. seen my brother play the others and wasnt interested. Although I have FF-IX, X, and XII in my room. we (that's including my bro) skipped XIII & XIII-2

@kamikaze
Yeah you can, by reaching the point you want to reach.
Kamikaze135  +   947d ago
@killerhog

That doesn't mean you finished it. There is always something to do. Being done with it and finishing it are two different things. I can be finished with Final Fantasy XI in a week. That doesn't mean I actually finished it since there is always something to do.
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Godmars290  +   947d ago
Despite Fran's ass, I got bored with it.
Magnus  +   947d ago
I tried to give 12 a run but I got bored of it just like I got bored of 13. In my eyes FF12 was when the series went down hill to me when I put it in my PS2. It lost its lust that I got when it was a new Final Fantasy game I couldn't relate to the characters and it felt stale. I actually prefered FF10 there are fans out there who like FF12 but I don't I traded the game in a long time ago and stuck to Xenosaga and Ar Tonelico.
killerhog  +   947d ago
For me, FF-X where it got lame.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   947d ago
I enjoyed 12, though it is a step back from the previous titles. It's better than 13 and 13-2 IMO.
Tigerfire  +   947d ago
12 was freaking badass in my opinion.
Bimkoblerutso  +   947d ago
Yeah it was great, I agree. Most hardcore FF fans apparently couldn't appreciate the lack of melodrama and romance, but I loved the fantasy politics of it all.

And ironically, when all's said and done, the battle system is not that far removed from previous entries.
HeavenlySnipes  +   947d ago
THIS
The change from the 'destined hero saves the day from big bad guy" story that FF players loved in FFVII,IX, and X was refreshing. All the party members except Penelo were equally important, yes Ashe was the only one who could use the stones but all the characters contributed equally. Also the voice acting was TOP NOTCH and the many side missions and the humongous world makes it the best FF game to date for me
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   947d ago
"And ironically, when all's said and done, the battle system is not that far removed from previous entries."

Exactly. Apart from the auto nature of the battle system it was pretty much like the old FF games, but happening in real time.

That is what I think the future FF titles should be like. Turn-Based, but happening in real time.
SandwichHammock  +   947d ago
MY favorite FF actually.

I would love to see it remastered for PSV but I very much doubt that. Sony/Squarenix could always just release it as a PS2 classic and have those be playable on PSV. Still remember playing it and encountering Omega for the first time and beating her with that coin toss skill. Cost me 400k+ if I remember correctly.

Cheers.
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NegativeCreep427  +   947d ago
FFXII was definitely underrated...
and was totally blackballed. The Gambit system was not "convoluted" or "confusing" like so many members of the gaming media painted it as. It was different, and sometimes different is good, and sometimes going against the grain (i.e. not following popular web opinions and buying into all the criticism) works out best.

I put in over 55 hours into that game. To be honest, If my Slim PS3 could play my old PS2 games, I would have gone back into it and tried to find and complete all the Marks.

There is one popular gripe about FFXII I will concede to though: Vaan sucks like a Hoover.
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Bimkoblerutso  +   947d ago
Yeah, totally agree about Vaan. I read that the developers originally wanted to focus solely on Basch, but SE pressured them into creating Vaan because they felt their audience wouldn't relate to a mature, middle-aged man.

It's sad, too. Basch and Balthier are two of my favorite characters from any FF.
Jihaad_cpt  +   947d ago
loved 12 it was one of my favourite Final Fantasy games to be honest
Summons75  +   947d ago
its alright not the best but much much more enjoyable than 7 or 10.
Optical_Matrix  +   947d ago
I think its one of the best in the franchise. With one of the best stories. A lot of people found the story boring because it was 'all about politics'. But to be honest, that gave it depth and a higher level of require intellectual engagement. If you didn't engage with it, sucks to be you really. Only complaint really was the generally forgettable cast of characters.
v1c1ous  +   947d ago
The story had intrigue, mature plot, and alluring conflict. Too bad this always happened off-screen and your characters were always in some cave away from all this action.
v1c1ous  +   947d ago
It was a good RPG, but a bad Final Fantasy. does that make sense?

it was the first FF title i had to force myself to finish.
Shivan  +   947d ago
final fantasy 12 was wonderful
Shivan  +   947d ago
final fantasy 12 was wonderful and is very much a japanese rpg
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darthawesome90  +   947d ago
Final Fantasy XII was ok but not great. The art direction was amazing. The overall story was ok but could have used more depth and a proper villian. What killed Final Fantasy XII was the very long MMO grind without much story in-between areas. For example I would wander through the desert or the tower near the end of the game that would take hours to get through with no story whatsoever, just a very long level grind. Also the main character Vaan was one of the most boring characters ever and nothing made him likeable. On the other hand XII had some of the best supporting characters I have ever seen in a Final Fantasy (Balthier, Fran, Ash, Basch). Unfortunately as good as these characters were I felt like I was observing them and not actually creating a bond with them which hurt XII as a whole.
violentheart  +   947d ago
The gambit system was probly too complicated for the average ff fan girl at the time.
josephayal  +   947d ago
FF12 is a great game but Battle system is horrible omg just like ff13 and ff13-2
Wintersun616  +   947d ago
Those systems are nothing alike. In XII you actually had control over your characters. You could tell them what to do and you could make them be anything you wanted. The level of freedom in character development in XII is something I have never seen any other game pull off. XIII on the other hand only gave you an illusion of choice in character development but in the end you are always forced into a certain mould. Crystarium is just a poor mask for linear character development.
helghast102  +   947d ago
Yes.
I love it.
KrimsonKody  +   947d ago
Loved FFXII.

The grid system was fresh, free & fun.
The battle system is very exciting at first, but then the excitement of how it workz dulls down, but overall, the system is not bad @ all.
& the story was actually good, not ok, but good. It had a very classy, noble, king-esque kind of feeling to it & the story never strayed too far from its plot.

As for a FF game?
I still feel the story & setting was fitting to be called an FF title. It remind me much of the earlier FF titles (before 7), where the story focused on kingdoms & betrayal, etc.

I think that FFXII would've been better appreciated if it was placed either after FF8 or before FFX.
After FFX, the bar was raised, new consoles were in the talks, & expectations were high for the next FF, especially being released on a new console.
But that's all in retrospect, we now know how 'this' played out.

Oh;
& I think that if FFXII had the production & budget as FFXIII & was released on the PS3(360), it would've been better received & much more respected as an FF title.
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banjadude  +   947d ago
It was good, but the combat system was over my head (yeah, I'm terabad at the game).
TheColbertinator  +   947d ago
Final Fantasy XII is still my favorite FF game of all time.I loved everything about it.
No FanS Land  +   947d ago
This game is about one of the biggest games I ever got to play, FFXII's story is giant, (took me roughly 90 hours to beat the main game, and its sidequests and voice acting are among the best.

the bad thing though is because it gets so many gameplay elements right, albeit very different from previous titles, versus a "non-traditional" story for FF, earns it the black sheep of final fantasy.

FFXII is a technical and execution masterpiece. I think the most irritating thing about it is the fact it got shadowed by FFXIII at E32006 and released a mere 3 weeks before the PS3.
iamthebozz  +   947d ago
I enjoyed FF XII a lot, gameplay was decent, the battle system was an interesting change of pace and refreshing; the only thing I didn't like was the story.

It's hard to say what I didn't like about the story without spoiling it. :(

I just feel that the game could have benefited from a more grounded story. I wonder if the story changes are a reflection of Yaz leaving the project mid-way through production?
Kenshin_BATT0USAI  +   947d ago
I guess I'm in the minority. I actually loved FF12. It was huge, and there were so many things to do, I clocked over 250 hours. In terms of content at least, THAT IS how you make an rpg. As for gameplay/battle system, that's up for debate.
izumo_lee  +   947d ago
It is not my favorite FF game but i did enjoy it for its more grown up story. Just like FF Tactics this game has a very deep, engaging but often confusing storyline. Since it was mostly about political intrigue then what we are use to in past Final Fantasy games. The characters are hit & miss...Balthier being a hit while Vaan not so much. Personally i like Penelo as a character, do not know why but she grew on me.

The battle system it did take me awhile to get use to cause it has a huge learning curve, but once you get it and have patience with it, it is actually pretty neat. I didn't like the license board that much as a character customization system but it did not make the game unplayable.

Overall it is a very underrated game in the series. Since it has that huge learning curve fans that are not patient will have problems with the game. Those willing to take the time & some endure frustrating moments the game is deserving of the final fantasy name.
VileAndVicious  +   947d ago
Dude FF XII, FF tactics and Vagrant story are all premium RPGs.
IMO these three games represent a theme thats missing in newer RPGs of this generation. A very mature story thats not as cut and dry as good Vs evil. XII was without a doubt underrated but to me FF9, 12 and tactics (yeah I put tactics in there) were the best in the entire series.

God I spent so many hours back in the day playing each of them!
izumo_lee  +   947d ago
No arguing with you there. My belief that FF 12 did not receive the recognition it got was that the fanbase was not use to the more mature,'grown up' darker stories that Hiroyuki Itou is know for.

The game was also a huge change of direction in all aspects of the game that it was kinda a shock for the fan base. Like i said FF 12 was a game that the player needs to be patient and learn what the game is before you get to enjoy it. Some fans are just not use to that type of gameplay and are turned off by it.

My only regret with FF 12 was i was never able to get Frans best weapon & defeat Omega Mark XII...damn that guy was tough!!!!
TheMutator  +   947d ago
mehhh FF series died in FF9 the rest is pure square enix crap
catfrog  +   947d ago
i very much enjoyed 12, i also hope SE will do for it what theyre doing for 10. i would love to play that game on my vita/ps3
Skateboard  +   946d ago
When I first seen this game at my friends house I was hesitant to like it cause I saw how much it changed the gameplay, but after owning it and doing all the marks and putting 120 hours into the game, I had to bow down to my copy.

It's my favorite Final Fantasy.

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