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Submitted by NewMonday 911d ago | review

IGN Review : Ninja Gaiden 3 a Bloody Disaster

Wondering how Team Ninja fared without Tomonobu Itagaki at the helm? Well, read on for some seriously bad news. (Ninja Gaiden 3, PS3, Xbox 360) 3/10

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NewMonday  +   911d ago
the review reeks of nerd rage, hard on this and easy on ME3, is it the advertising?

will have to wait for more opinions
Abash  +   911d ago
The reviewer sounded really pissy, either he was a big fan of the series and is severely disappointed or he was having a bad week and took it out on the game. Either way the review screamed "Im reviewing this and Im angry!" which just made me really have the "O_o" face the whole time reading it
kaveti6616  +   911d ago | Well said
Well, IGN are run by human beings and obviously a big fan of the series decided to take off more points than technically necessary just to metaphorically flip the bird to the people involved in its production. I don't blame them because the game looks like it was made in 2008. Virtually no visual improvement, and an omission of what NG fans love: weapon variety and meaningful dismemberment.

"In another questionable step backward, Ryu sticks with just one weapon for the entire game."

That is the stupidest decision Team Ninja has made.
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NukaCola  +   911d ago
The score is lower than the review led on, but at the same time this game looks outdated and I can understand everything he says and can feel his problems. I don't blame the review, he wasn't comparing it to other games, he wasn't bashing it recklessly or being an idiot about it, he was telling us that the game is flawed in designed, uneventful and over all of poor quality. I thought when the game came out, it would either be a real mind blower or a total let down. I was prepared for this.

I wonder why he didnt touch on the multiplayer though. Not up yet?
jetlian  +   911d ago
actually there is footage with other weapons in the game

edit: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Seems ign is going for hits even I who beat sigma 2 today know with all thats been changed the lowest this could get is a 7.

They claiming this worse than I am alive which I know is a lie. And I think I am alive is an 8
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geddesmond  +   911d ago
Nah IGN are just looking for attention and I doubt Team Ninja payed them for a decent score so this is the result. I mean I bet the reviewer played the game on the easiest setting and then bitched about its ease.

Ah well IGN reviews can never be trusted, they'll give 9s and 10s to the games that get advertised on the site but not to games that don't
Markarie  +   911d ago
@NukaCola - Did you read the review? He definitely mentioned the multiplayer, saying it was plan bad.

I'm not sure why so many people are so quick to defend this game. You can go ahead and try to make up conspiracies about IGN giving better scores to games that advertise on their site, but the fact is that games with a bigger budget tend to be better and have more advertising. Of course there are exceptions, but that would be the trend. Ninja Gaiden 2 was all over IGN when it came out. Did you really think this game would be great without it's visionary at the helm? Ninja Gaiden 3 sucks. Get over it. This author just saved you $60.
gamingdroid  +   911d ago
I cancelled my Collector's Edition at GameStop today and I'm like the biggest fan ever. I spent hundreds of hours on NG2 and own multiple copies of every game released.

This game from start to finish sounds like a disaster. The signs have been there all along:

- no dismemberment
- one weapon
- QTE
- enemies that beg for their life

... and now repetitive Dynasty Warrior like game play!?

I'm saddened that I have to drop Ninja Gaiden out of my top 3 game series. Thanks for destroying what I love Hayashi! :(
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NukaCola  +   911d ago
@Markarie

I watched the video, but totally missed any multiplayer talk. I am not defending this game. It sounds like this game not only failed to address past issues, but it has created all new ones.
jony_dols  +   911d ago
Kinda of reminds me of IGN's over-the-top moany & bitchy review of Silent Hill last week.
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otherZinc  +   911d ago
@gamingdroid,

I agree with you 100%!

I called this disaster a long@ss time ago when they announced QTE'S!

This was my second favorite franchise of "All Times", now, this is killing me.

Thats ok. I'll play Ninja Gaiden, NG Black, & Ninja Gaiden 2 for my sanity!
Boody-Bandit  +   911d ago
Wow what a fall from grace.
I didn't like what I saw of this game, 1 weapon, QTE's, decreased violence, etc... but I didn't think it was going to be this bad. I still might give it a rent to see for myself.
jetlian  +   911d ago
seems I lost a bubble in here lol and theres alot of new accounts made on this site

dont worry Im about to follow peeps and mark every comment you make!!

brutal I already proved there more than 1 weapon
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iamtehpwn  +   911d ago
I can imagine Itagaki reading this review while smoking and thinking "Told them they needed me more than I needed them"
Cupid_Viper_3  +   911d ago
It sounds as if the game is broken and uninspiring. So i'm not too against the score applied to it. but my question is this, Why can't there be consistency in the review system, because there are games who have been using the same engines with little improvements over 2-3 games even. like COD and Street fighter and likes. those games are getting high marks when they barely improve on anything and just recycle
BitbyDeath  +   911d ago
Maybe Itagaki paid them previously for high scores? LOLZ
specialguest  +   911d ago
Oh you mean like this:

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killerhog  +   911d ago
Wtf would itagaki of added? Even bigger breast? Better six-axis tit control? he wasn't doing anything innovative with either the doa or ninja gaiden franchises. Ign sweats the shit out of itagaki, probably why they were so harsh on this title. I bet if itagaki made ninja gaiden, and just added bigger boobs, better six-axis tit control, and nothing new as the past ninja gaiden games this gen, ign still give it a 8-10
WetN00dle69  +   911d ago
@killerhog

Still an 8-10 would be better than a 3 if Itagaki was at the helm of things. I worry for the fate of my beloved Dead Or Alive! Team Ninja NEEDS Itagaki no if or buts about it!
irepbtown  +   911d ago
With Itagaki at the Helm, the Ninja Gaiden's use to be absolute masterpieces.

When he is not, Ninja Gaiden turned into sheep poo.
They needed him, and now I bet he is laughing at them.

And IGN is inconsistent, giving games such as COD top marks yet it is repetitive and graphics haven't changed for 5 years (COD4 was the only magnificent game). Yet (just an example) Battlefield 3, which has showed great improvements from Battlefield 2 gets same as MW3 which had literally no changes.
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Arnon  +   911d ago
@killerhog
Dismemberment? Better combos? More weapons? Better graphics? Bigger tits (yes, this is awesome)? He sorta did create the franchise, you know? Pretty sure I'd trust him over his obvious failure of a team.
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OmegaSlayer  +   911d ago
An 8 from Official XBOX Magazine.
Seems a fair score.
http://www.oxm.co.uk/39359/...
kikizoo  +   911d ago
I don't know, since the game is not even out...but, xbox magazine has xbox games for standard, ign has all the others, it's probably the reason why you can see 3 and 8...

other reason ? one of the 2 reviewer didn't made a good job rewiewing this game.
OmegaSlayer  +   911d ago
Exactly, when scores gap more than 2-3 (out of 10) points, one of the reviewers is biased or unable to do his work.
GTANJ  +   911d ago
@OmegaSlayer - Right, because everybody knows that you must have the same opinion as others and if you don't then you are evil and should be banished for all eternity. Grow up.
ShinMaster  +   910d ago
The only 8's were given by dedicated Xbox sites
which have a stronger affiliation with this franchise.

So realistically speaking. It's a 5.5/10 if you average them out.
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admiralvic  +   910d ago
@ Omega (the 2-3 gap reply):

You can't control who gets what. Being a fan vs being a non fan vs how many games you play vs how far you get vs how well you know the series vs skill.

Too many elements come into play which allow for different scores. In the end, it's not meant for every reviewer to agree, but for them all to offer their views on everything. While not everyone will be perfect, once you get an idea of how everything works, you should get a good understanding of the games value in your own perception.
callahan09  +   911d ago
So far, two 8's and a 7 are the other scores that have come out besides this IGN score. And one of the 8's and the 7 are from notoriously tough-scoring sources. Makes me question the validity of IGN's review, though it's not like the vitriolic and spiteful tone of the review wasn't already enough to make me question their intentions. Very unprofessional tone. If this were a restaurant review, you could only assume that the food was covered in hair and tasted of saliva and the waiter made you wait 2 hours and yelled at you when you asked for a refill. What could Team Ninja or this game have possibly done to the reviewer to warrant such outright flaming?
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undisputed  +   911d ago
The game can't be *THAT* bad. Which is why I never take reviews as gospel. I'm on the fence with this one regardless.
killerhog  +   911d ago
Let me make it simple. Ign are itagaki fanboys they sweat the sh*t out of him.
undisputed  +   911d ago
killerhog, I wanted to say that this guy is probably angry that Itagaki left, the game doesn't play how he remembers it under Itagaki and took it on this game but this is N4G so saying this would get fifteen disagrees.
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DevilishSix  +   911d ago
Yeah but that OXM review reads like a 5/10 game but the reviewer coped out and gave it an 8. Reviewers are not doing gamers justice when they slam a game the entire review saying it is a shadow of its former self then give it an 8. How do we send developers a message that their game sucks if reviewers are afraid and gamers buy anything with a name?
Raider69  +   910d ago
Well you must understand that the guy that review it is a Fan of the series.This is the way games should be reviewed,by someone that haves knowledge of previous games from the series.The 3/10 could be seen has harsh review by somepeople but for me a fan of NG from the NES times its totally deserved,i already tested the game and the game dont feel like a NG game.Yosuke Hayashi its a kid,to me he already had proven on the Sigma versions that he was a Ninja dog and not a follower to the Path of the mentor!Yosuke Hayashi ruin Ninja gaiden an most likely will ruin DOA too.
Sony360  +   911d ago
This is where you blame IGN until every other publication says the same thing and you suddenly go quiet about it.

So the cycle continues.
BrunoM  +   911d ago
They will say it ..

But not 2 and 3 they will give it 7-8 even 6s but giving a game a 3 is to much I mean if they can give angry birds 7-8 lol give a game like NG a 3 is plain sad ..

I mean a 4.0 for graphics ?? Lol what did MW3 get ? Come on really ?

But what ever it's his view of the game .. To bad he forgets he has people who read it
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Ryo-Hazuki  +   911d ago
I hope NG3 gets more 3s. They put in health regeneration, no upgradable weapons, 1 primary, no yellow essence, no treasure chests, and infested with QTE's. It's a slap in the face to the NG fans
DevilishSix  +   911d ago
Totally 100% agree. This is an action game not a Ninja Gaiden game. This game was made before, it was called Ninja Blade but at least that game had many more weapons.
oricon  +   911d ago
4.0 for the graphics? All i gotta say.
JANF  +   911d ago
This is a shame, for such a great franchise. Itagaki must be furious.
Patriots_Pride  +   911d ago
Somewhere in the world Itaki is ROFL.
honkyjesus  +   911d ago
I kind of went through the NG3 review, and a lot about it sounds like what should have been the Mass Effect 3 review. IGN has been giving any AAA game, especially franchise games, with marketing a 9 or 9.5 for quite a while.

If there is a big game coming out, seems like they have to love it.
STONEY4  +   911d ago
There is absolutely nothing wrong with ME3 except for the ending, which is poorly done. It's a 9.5 game until the last 5 minutes. It vastly improved from ME2, and it's not a broken game.

This genuinely sounds like they took everything that made Ninja Gaiden... well, Ninja Gaiden, and just butchered it. 1 weapon? QTEs? No gore? Really?
FutureTechnologies  +   911d ago
Seems like he didn't got the fat check in time.
showtimefolks  +   910d ago
This is IGN don't trust them just laugh at them.

i am alive 4.5
silent hill 4.5
yakuza dead souls 5.0
and now ninja giaden 3.0

all those games have or are getting better scores every where, i don't know what's going on at ign they have not only been harsh but just idiotic
playboi28  +   910d ago
Well, Silent Hill was pretty bad but I'm still not sure if it deserves less than a 5. IGN is ridiculous. I'd expect this from a reader score but not a professional critic.
admiralvic  +   910d ago
No idea on I am alive, though I've seen many low scores for it.
Silent Hill follows the standard storyline, so it's predictable and could use some small tweaks. While I don't think it's a 4.5, it's certainly not an amazing game either.
Dead Souls uses the left thumbstick to aim (from what I've read), which in it of it's self makes it awful (if true).
Demographics 101. Most NG fan will read it and casual people who know it's hard won't. It is directed towards hardcore fans, but the game lacks everything that makes it NG... so how does it deserve a high score?
Andreas-Sword  +   910d ago
IGN is not a serious gaming site!

STUFF gives Ninja Gaiden 3 a 5/5 (100%) score.
source: http://www.stuff.tv/review/...

And here are some another serious Ninja Gaiden 3 reviews:
CVG: 8/10 (80%)
http://www.computerandvideo...

OXM UK: 8/10 (80%)
http://www.oxm.co.uk/39359/...

OXM US: 8/10 (80%)
http://www.oxmonline.com/ni...

Metro: 8/10 (80%)
http://www.metro.co.uk/tech...
gamingdroid  +   910d ago
So what happened to the lower scoring reviews?

On metacritic, the overall score sits at 60 based on 7 reviews so it ain't all roses unless you selectively pick the reviews:

http://www.metacritic.com/g...
playboi28  +   910d ago
The lowest I saw on metacritic was a 50 other than IGN. That at least sounds believable. I'm not saying the game is good or deserves a high score. But you can't seriously tell me it's the worst game this year. Maybe biggest disappointment, but not worst game. So, of course the metacritic score is very low. One score of 3 can greatly impact the average.
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playboi28  +   910d ago
I agree. A 3? Really? So, this game is worse than Velvet Assassin, X-Blades, and Venetica? They all got better scores. Even Soldier of Fortune got a 6.1 and it was completely broken. I no longer trust IGN for reviews. They aren't fair. If they don't like something, they completely destroy it in their score. If you don't believe me, look at the score for El Shaddai. IGN gave it a 5 but everybody else gave it an 8 or above. Hell, download the demo if you haven't played it and tell me what you think it deserves... I thought it was awesome.
likedamaster  +   910d ago
For next game, I have 3 words...

Unreal Engine 4.
50Terabytespersec  +   910d ago
The game got lame after it did multi platform..
Nothing but hand me down graphics from old Xbox and nothing new or exciting..Can you say boring as well.

Give me God of War anytime..
MASTER_RAIDEN  +   910d ago
so sick of people like you. if a series you might like doesnt get a great score, it MUST be because the reviewer is a jerk with a hidden agenda. its just NOT POSSIBLE that a game you might like could ever suck. they must be purposely putting out negative press.

Im a fan of the series, yeah. but lemmie tell ya, it doesnt seem like anything the reviewer says is out of line. i havent played the game myself, but throughout the review i immediately noticed that the graphics werent exactly top notch, and the constant zooming in and out was nauseating as hell!
Be honest with yourselves people: some games just end up sucking. It's a reviewers job to bring you his/her opinion of the game, positive or negative.

wait wait...."cant spell ignorant without IGN!!"
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EmperorDalek  +   911d ago
...... My jaw has dropped. I am sad.
Drake117  +   911d ago
yeah this sucks. Im a huge NG fan idk wtf they were thinking with this one!!!!Damnit!!!
Laxman  +   911d ago
If you're a huge NG fan, try the game for yourself instead of conforming to the mass internet mob of change-hating armchair critics. Ive been a fan of the series since the NES, and think this game looks excellent. Ninja Gaiden was never about choice of weapons, its always been about the rewarding challenge and ultra-stylish violence. Which this game looks to have.
Drake117  +   911d ago
It sounds like the game has a whole lot more wrong with it than a lack of choice of weapons...The guy even said it was jokingly easy and felt nothing like previous NG games.
rjdofu  +   911d ago
@Laxman: 1 NON-UPGRADABLE weapon, though there'll be 2 more on DLC (talon & scythe), still pathetic compared to the enormous amount of weapons of the last 2 games. No essence, dumped down difficulty, regen health, stupid UT (slash every one on screen, really?), only 1 overpowered ninpo, etc. It just lacks variations and creativity on every aspects. There's no sense of rewarding nor re-playability in this game.

You still think I have to waste my money to try this garbage?
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Sony360  +   911d ago
Shame really...it was a great series.
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dragunrising  +   911d ago
@Laxman

Did you even read the review? It clearly states that the game is easy and repetitive. When has Ninja Gaiden ever been described that way? The series has always been about gameplay and challenge. As a Ninja Gaiden "fan" you should be curious to know if the gameplay is intact or changes in a meaningful way. If you read the review (once again) you would know that gameplay has been dumbed down to an extent that its barely Ninja Gaiden as fan's would remember it. It also says that the story gets in the way of the gameplay. Ninja Gaiden has never a very coherent story however it never got in the way of gameplay. Perhaps the review was a little harsh, then again I haven't played it. The review was at least rational and should make you question a purchase.

I generally I don't put too much stock in a single review however its difficult to dismiss all the problems raised in the review. I will at least give the game a rental and decide from there.
NewMonday  +   911d ago
did he try playing on a harder difficult? did he bash it because it didn't force you to play hard.

so their are some set piece narrative encounters, when has that been a bad thing?

and his the reviewer's tone made me lose trust from the start.

and the game got 36/40 from famitsu, so it can't be that big a difference
undisputed  +   911d ago
I know I said I would get this game in a bargain bin but I can't help but try it.Sometimes playing something for yourself and being the judge is the best route.
Sevir  +   911d ago
Picking up the game tomorrow. ive seen 7-8s which really
Are pretty high. Given all the changes of the I can see it getting a 7 but seriously after Reading this review my consensus is that this guy was very angry! To the point where his bias affected the game. Very unprofessional!
ape007  +   911d ago
me too man, I remember NINJA GAIDEN for xbox 1 in 2004 was absolutely amazing, gameplay was second to none, graphics was ahead of its time and it had that Magic feel about it, this is sad, i knew the game gonna suck, i saw a preview earlier this month and the level they showed SUCKED as well as graphics
ElasticLove  +   911d ago
Holy S*it, I wasn't expecting such a low score. But I'll look into this game more before judging it off of one review.
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kaveti6616  +   911d ago
I think the score is deserved. I played Ninja Gaiden 2 in 2008 and expected a much more noticeable improvement in Ninja Gaiden 3 than what I saw. Yes, yes, I'm speaking merely about the graphics, but the gameplay videos weren't encouraging, either. There was no dismemberment, and less gore than in Ninja Gaiden 2.

Everything about the game at first sight looks abysmal and I expected it to be a mediocre title. I didn't expect a 3/10 but I'm sure IGN is merely venting it's rage on the game because they're disappointed. People who like the series will probably pick it up and enjoy it anyway, but I think IGN gave it a 3 to punish the developers and publishers for putting so little effort into the game.
Hozi  +   911d ago
It's not like I ever expected NG's story to win awards but the story of this one is so mundane and dry. I really thought the story in the first two games beat the crap outta this one. and to make matters worse, every thing from bad camera angles to repetitive combat is present in this game. I will wait for Gamespot's review to see if it further solidifies this horrible score IGN has marked it.
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DARK WITNESS  +   911d ago
I played a bit of it at the Eurogamer expo last year.

It was only a demo, but honestly it was enough for me to make up my mind.

I complately lost interest in the game and have no plans to buy it.

NG on the old xbox was my second favorite game on the system after Halo CE.

NG2 was good but there were little things I thought could have made it better...

This on the otherhand, I just don't see how anyone could really defend it. It almost makes Ninja Blade look like real competition for it!

The score does not supprise one bit. maybe the tone he used is a bit off, but in all honesty I don't consider it anymore exaggerated then all those reviews that give games 9+ scores that don't deserve them.
Surfaced  +   911d ago
Oh man... if the reviews are all like this, people at Team Ninja are going to lose their jobs.
X_GAMER_X  +   911d ago
I have seen the game. Its really not Ninja Gaiden.
I am a big fan of Ninja gaiden and I have bought every F** game out there. But this one, This one is a total wrack and a bad entry.

I remember Ninja gaiden Black, Maaaan, I finishd that game maybe 20 times and never got sick of it.

Everything has an end. Lets see if 343i can pull this of, Or make Halo *fresh and *new like what the new tecmo did with Ninja Gaiden. right down to the toilet.
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Megaman_nerd  +   911d ago
Oh dear: http://www.reactiongifs.com...

The funny thing is that I was actually going to buy the game day one just because it was Ninja Gaiden but if the other reviews are going to be like this too then you can bet this game will hit the bargain bin in a matter of weeks. I think I'll wait, I was thinking about buying SFxT too, maybe I can buy them both cheap by next month.

But seriously, NG was one of my most favorite games ever right beside FF and DMC but it seems that Japanese devs are on a mission of destroying all my fav franchises. ;_;

Parasite Eve- check
FF- check
DMC- check
NG- check
Megaman- check

what is left?
MGS (who knows)
KH (main entry, not crappy handheld spin-off)
Suikoden (MIA)
Persona (MIA)
DQ (stuck on handhelds and soon an MMO)
Valkyria (massive flop and now stuck on handhelds)
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Surfaced  +   911d ago
That's the reaction for jizzing in your pants.
You jizz in your pants when something is orgasmically good.
Not orgasmically bad; such a thing does not exist.
Try again.
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segamon  +   911d ago
lol wtf!
Inception  +   911d ago
I agreed that some tittles from you're list are being crap lately. But Persona are MIA? P4 just released 3 years ago and this year we got Persona 2: Eternal Punishment (PSP), P4: Golden (Vita), and P4: Arena (PS3/360). Also Atlus already confirmed that they on the drawing board (maybe further) for Persona 5.

And which Valkyria do you mean?
Is it Valkyria Profile from SE or Valkyria Chronicles from SEGA?
If it's VP than yeah i agree. But VC still have high quality even 2 & 3 are on PSP.
Rainstorm81  +   911d ago
P4:Arena is a fighting game, i wouldnt quite count that in the mix, but i will be picking up P4:Golden
NewMonday  +   911d ago
Persona is a spin-off MegaTen game, if you love get the new Devil Survivor 2, it will help you wait for P5
Heartnet  +   911d ago
yet FF, DMC and NG have not been ruined lol FF still a decent franchise which sticks to decent story telling and hella nice cinematics :)

DMC is looking to be a great game and if u dare mention its not looking good cuz u dont play as the same dante you have played as 4 times already then go cry somewhere else

and NG looks decent lol :) may be slightly easier than the previous titles but this will help peopel struggling with the franchise :) it has never been about the visuals but the fluidity of of combat
jokia005  +   911d ago
just let me cry
silkrevolver  +   911d ago
Ninja Gaiden 3.0
badz149  +   911d ago
lol
more like Ninja Gaiden 0.3!
Sony360  +   911d ago
Swing and a miss.
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tehpees3  +   911d ago
Well played revolver
GamingTruth  +   911d ago
im done trusting internet reviews of games, so lacking in the credibility department
Surfaced  +   911d ago
How do you know if the game is any better?
Have you played the game yet?
What makes you think this review is so inaccurate?
torchic  +   911d ago
agreed. where there is smoke, there is fire.
BuffMordecai  +   911d ago
IGN is one of the most unreliable review sites out there, but this game does look like its lost its way.
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playboi28  +   910d ago
I am almost completely sure it's better than a 3. I'm not saying it's good, but look up some of the worst games you've played on IGN and you'll see they have all got better scores except for Rogue Warrior which got a 1.5. Hell, they even gave Duke Nukem Forever a 5.5! Do you honestly think Ninja Gaiden 3 is worse than that??
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Digitaldude  +   911d ago | Funny
Go risk $60 and prove everyone wrong.
GamingTruth  +   911d ago
ok then, so the reverse side of that same coin should also be true by your logic my friend, i know that every since about 2007 people have been constantly attacking games that are classic franchises in favor of glorifying new franchises, case in point games such as:

duke nukem, zelda, mario, call of duty, final fantasy, halo, and im probably forgetting some

and they do it all in the efforts to cut off someones possibly years of waiting for a game or whatever else that they have expectations of, thats exactly what the pc gamers are trying to do with the ps4 and 720, trying to kill your expectation with the saying that, "oh, well the graphics leap wont be that high" or "the next gen systems wont even be as strong as current pcs" in which thats definitely trying to kill your confidence since i really aint seeing nothing on pc that i can say is a jump from current gen, so thats a pitiful jump if im still waiting for pc to show me something to me more impressive than ps3 exclusive games, but thats another story

so in all i get your point, but i also have noticed the internets new fetish with attacking new games that come out to kill peoples expectation, many are already trying that same garbage with halo 4, so yeah my feelings on the matter still stand, ive played several games with horrible reviews that to me and my group of friends i came up with enjoyed and thought completely opposite of what the internet says and forums and gaming communities such as this say, and collective agreement and thumbs ups and agrees means nothing when its nothing but collective fan agreement that is really doing exactly what ive described here, i could have 500 disagrees and 1 or 2 agrees, and you could have 500 agrees and no disagrees, and i could still be right, thats called collective fanism and its seen very much with pc fans on this site and gametrailers youtube even nothing more nothing less
DARK WITNESS  +   911d ago
@ GamingTruth

In my opinion, the only people killing expectations are the publishers who give the green light to rush a half assed game so they can please the shareholders, or the dev's how take great concepts and just throw more and more crap ideas onto a game once they run out of the good ones.

Maybe gamers have become a lot more critical etc, but then when you feel like you are being milked for every penny, why wouldn't we want to be more careful.

Dev's/ publishers are the ones who keep pushing these old franchises because they know they will sell on name alone, even when there is no need to and maybe it's just best to let the series hold it's place as an old classic from back in the days.

They are all going down the same road; make it more accessible, add a few gimmicks, strip out what you can so it can be sold as dlc and poof! Sales, sales, sales...

Does not matter if the game looks and plays like shit, the casuals would not know the difference anyway.

For us fans, we get to watch our beloved characters and games go down the pan.. of course we will bash the hell out of them!
GTANJ  +   911d ago
BuffMordecai - How can a review be reliable or unreliable? It is only an opinion of the game, is it not? For it to be reliable, it has to be a static entity. If IGN reviews are not static and are ever changing, that means they should be the most "reliable" in terms of nonbias. Maybe don't get upset or call IGN unreliable just because you don't agree with what they think of games.
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playboi28  +   910d ago
It's not just the review. It's the score that's the problem. You can't honestly say there is nothing good about the game. I'd expect that kind of score from a user review, but not a "professional". A game has to be damn near unplayable to deserve a score that low.
plmkoh  +   911d ago
Just because a game is different or is a departure from previous game does not make it a failure. What does make it a failure is if they were unable to capitalise on the changes to the point where simply meeting the status-quo would have been a better game...and quite frankly from the review it doesn't sound like that, rather it reads like an opinion of someone who is butt-hurt because he cannot play the same game he has played for the last 5 games and completely ignores the good points.

I'am no fan of the series nor do I really care about the games, but I do care when a reviewer (especially from a site with influence) out-rightly pushes an agenda rather than seeing the game for what it is.

This is saddening.
Grap  +   911d ago
no it is failure. you like it or not
Markarie  +   911d ago
Wow, you are completely blind if yOu got the feeling that he didn't see the game for what it is. What it is, apparently, is boring, repetitive, not what fans OR newcomers are interested in, easy, and all with crappy tacked on multiplayer. Maybe the author was a little "butt-hurt", but wouldn't you be if you were eagerly anticipating a game for years and it turned out to be crap? What is truly saddening is the overall level of intelligence on this site. Gamers, especially NG fans, should be up in arms over the quality of this game, but instead they choose to defend it (though the author played it and you didn't), make excuses for it, and bash the person that is trying to stop you from wasting $60 on it. Get over yourself.
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plmkoh  +   911d ago
Ah so disappointment automatically means a 3/10...right, you know what that smells like to me, an overraction. If this author was to write in anything other than video games, he'd get skewed alive and made sure never to set foot in a publication as long as he lives.

But no, thanks for the lecture, pointers that use "apparently" or "maybe" are real solid interpretations of what the author was REALLY implying. Love how you insulted me at the end grouping me as what a fan should be doing, when I already said I don't care about the series nor have an interest in it.

But let me leave you this before I do "get over myself", the last time I saw a 3/10 from IGN was for a Puzzle Bubble game for the Nintendo DS, and that was only because you'd get stuck on level 32 due to the boss not spawning...obviously a score reserved for broken games, comparable to NG3?
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Rainstorm81  +   911d ago
I agree it may have been an overreaction but so is CoD getting 9.5s..... and i was extremely disappointed with MW3 but because it sells uber millions good scores must follow

There is hypocrisy in gaming journalism and the only way to get around it is to find out for yourself.
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GTANJ  +   911d ago
Disappointment can = 3.0 when you BELIEVE the game is a 3.0. A review is an OPINION. Do you even understand the words that you are saying? He was disappointed in the quality of the game, so he thought it deserved a 3.0. It's as simple as that.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   911d ago
Who said 3/10 was reserved for "broken games"...?

According to IGN a 3/10 means that the game is "awful" broken or not.

***"What does make it a failure is if they were unable to capitalise on the changes to the point where simply meeting the status-quo would have been a better game...and quite frankly from the review it doesn't sound like that"***

***"I'am no fan of the series nor do I really care about the games, but I do care when a reviewer (especially from a site with influence) out-rightly pushes an agenda rather than seeing the game for what it is."***

So let me get this straight... from reading the review you was able to gather that NG3 capitalizes on the changes and is a better game than one that would have stayed true to it's roots... only you don't know what the game's roots are since you aren't a fan to begin with...

You're only concern seems to be the score as oppose to the written review itself. You made that comment because low scores are rarely given. I bet I won't see you making a similar comment for 10/10 scores.
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plmkoh  +   910d ago
Thanks for the analysis of what I commented on, unfortunately you didn't even begin to understand the subtleties of the words I chose.

" from reading the review you was able to gather that NG3 capitalizes on the changes and is a better game than one that would have stayed true to it's roots."

No I did not say that, I said that the author has an ideal that's too far up his ass that he failed to credit the positives where it was due. Notice how I said failure comes from being unable to capitilise on changes and also giving you a carbon copy of the last 5 games would prove a better game according to the author, never once did I say NG3 was successful in that regards to become a better game, but rather has shown highlights to be fairly credited. No I don't know it's roots, as you have said, but clearly the IGN author seems adamant that he does, which just furthers my point, does it have to be a grass-roots game, don't think so.

"You're only concern seems to be the score as oppose to the written review itself. You made that comment because low scores are rarely given."

Not really, if that were true I wouldn't have mentioned that the author"out-rightly pushes an agenda rather than seeing the game for what it is. ", if I simply reacted to news of a 3/10 as simply a score, I would have just mentioned the rarity of it. With all said, it would seem as if your concern would be seeing someone out-rightly attacking a popular media outlet for scoring the game.

"I bet I won't see you making a similar comment for 10/10 scores."

Correct, because I'd be commenting on how there are too many 10/10 games these days that don't fit the bill of a 10/10 game.
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Outside_ofthe_Box  +   910d ago
I'm failing to see how the author was "pushing an agenda." Too me it appears clear that the reviewer saw the game for what it is and apparently thought it was "awful" hence the 3/10.

I have no problem with you "attacking" IGN. I just feel as if had the score been a 7/10 you wouldn't even be commenting right now.

And don't tell me that the score isn't your issue when you think a 3/10 is an "overraction" and should be reserved for broken games. I don't see anything in the review that can be taken as the reviewer being butthurt that the game isn't a carbon copy of NG2. He even acknowledges that NG3 attempts to do something "fresh and interesting" which he adds is an "admiarble ambition" but in his opinion that is what's responsible for the games' "failures."
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Rampaged Death  +   911d ago
From the very start the game looked like a huge disappointment.
3 out of 10? I see IGN has hit a new low. Not even Asura's wrath is worth 3 out of 10, and that game has no gameplay.
torchic  +   911d ago
you need to understand that as human beings, we are all unique. while one person will think X, another person might think Y.

IGN's reviewers aren't robots who are programmed to think in the same. everyone feels differently about the games they play and then will assign a score that's appopriate to what they felt. no need to bash an entire publication based on one person's opinion.

I'm defending IGN because there are some really proper reviewers at that site, like Colin Moriarty and the guy who gave Rayman Origins a well deserved 9.5 (forgot his name :( lol)
LX-General-Kaos  +   911d ago
Its always sad when the newest entry to an amazing franchise gets thrown in a fire pit. I own the first two and its unfortunate that this one won't make the cut. My prayers go out to the good people that will lose their jobs over this disaster of a game. Now may we bow our heads and pray together that Dead or Alive 5 does not suffer the same fate. This is a major hit to Japanese gaming. Hopefully this will not land on the Nintendo Wii U.

@Below.. I guess we will see if scores like this take away from Team Ninjas bank account.

R.I.P Ninja Gaiden

Rated 3.0 For Everyone
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No, this is a major hit to western journalism.
sikbeta  +   911d ago
Let me guess, you're saying this because it's not on the wii, right?

XD
LX-General-Kaos  +   911d ago
why must you...

http://www.gamesradar.com/n...

That is Ninja Gaiden 3 announced for the Nintendo Wii U. Try again my fellow gamer. Everyone gets to suffer through this one.

Rated 3.0 For Everyone
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ritsuka666  +   911d ago
Geezzz, looks kojima san is right:Japan games is crap in this days... -__-
GTANJ  +   911d ago
English MF, do you speak it?!?
guitar_nerd_23  +   911d ago
Ouch, Team Ninja did a Square-Enix?
segamon  +   911d ago
lol hilarious!
Reaper9937  +   911d ago
No Itagaki-san = Death of Team Ninja
John Kratos  +   911d ago
This.
CrazyRap  +   911d ago
:(
I'm shocked..
Zynga  +   911d ago
Gonna rent this at redbox just to see how the story ends. Man what were team ninja thinking.
mysterious_warrior  +   910d ago
Thats what I said. How hard would it been from Team Ninja to implement every weapon available from NGB and NG2. They could have at least did that. If all those weapons would have been in there I think the hardcore fans would have cut them some slack... And yes I know DLC is coming but again why not have that in the game from the start?
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young7yang  +   911d ago
WOW!.. i will hold judgment for a few more reviews.. but this game has been a disappointment from the get-go. I remember when i saw the first demo of ninja gaiden II i was so excited.. this game on the other hand has not impressed me at all. If team ninja has any sense they will get on all fours and beg Itagaki to come back..
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Leviathan  +   911d ago
Oh..ok. SO it's *exactly* like the other Ninja Gaiden's.
This reviewer has never played one before, I'm sure of it.
lol
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Markarie  +   911d ago
You would describe the other Ninja Gaiden games as easy, boring, repetitive, etc.? If so, I would have to say YOU are the one that hasn't played them.
Leviathan  +   910d ago
I have played them. I just don't care for the series. Were all entitled to our own opinions.
wenaldy  +   911d ago
This is unexpectabble.. Well, i'll wait for another review..
Zephol  +   911d ago
OMG! hahahaha
Optical_Matrix  +   911d ago
Itagaki will be furious.
MattS  +   911d ago
lol. Like IGN knows how to review a Tecmo Koei game. They don't advertise, you see.
josh14399  +   911d ago
if it wasn't a ninja gaiden game it probably would have got a higher score. I'm assuming the reviewer gave it this score because it's terrible compared to previous games in the series. When the first gameplay videos of this game were released I new I wouldn't buy this.
360GamerFG  +   911d ago
One weapon? Why remove one of the best features of the game?
rdgneoz3  +   910d ago
I swear you can use more than one weapon in the game, unless it was a last minute thing. 5 minutes, 15 seconds in, you can see in the video (linked below) that the guy can switch between 3 weapons at the start of the game.

http://www.msxbox-world.com...
sly-Famous  +   911d ago
This is BS, if it is anything similar to the previous instalments then its AT-LEAST a 7.5
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despair  +   911d ago
dated graphics, one weapon and lack of variety..so not exactly like the other installments.
GTANJ  +   911d ago
You should read the review before commenting, he said it was nothing like the previous installments..
sly-Famous  +   910d ago
I did read the review and every word this guy was spewing sounds like what ever is wrong with the game is what HE didnt want and I saw some gameplay and it looked very similar to previous instalments.
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