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Penny Arcade bitchslaps Epic's Mark Rein over UT3 mod support on PS3

Tycho lays down the reality of putting mods on the PS3 in response to an email from Mark Rein: "As Huckster General for Epic MegaGames, of course you have interpreted your products with the maximum charity. As a consumer, I've assessed them by a more robust standard. Be sure to send any other tidbits my way in the future, so that I may again separate wheat from chaff."

Or rather, how you can't put mods on the PS3 version of Unreal Tournament III, at least not yet.

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CRIMS0N_W0LF3495d ago

don't you b!tch about your RRoD or the frame rate issues of great exclsuive like Mass Effect.

Biased bullcrap. CAG is better. CAD while crap is better too.

riqued3495d ago

They are right to complain that the tools are not released, but they talk sh*t when they say that 40Gb owner can't use mods later!

Somehow they "forgot" that usb is standard for all models.

Omegasyde3494d ago

1) Voice Communications suck. You have to at default, press the right directional button to talk. I found this out from a friend who found this info in a forum. DO you realize you have to actually stop moving in order to talk? Atleast it is there right?

2) The back of the box states: " Add mods and maps created with the Unreal Engine 3 Toolset and use them on your PLAYSTATION 3 computer entertainment system." PS3 users got 4 maps, in which 2 of them actually freeze the console requiring the user to turn off and on the system via the switch in the back.

3) After playing Gears of war, I expected a rich experience coming from the single player campaign mode. Its sucks, and it disappoints. All the campaign is bot matches with the Narrator of the story tring to explain how a Capture the flag match is actually a mission to turn off power respawners from the enemy. Its even worse that the A.I. is not that smart and people get confused, thinking the opposite since the AI is just accurate.

4) No split screen whatsoever, despite only a EPIC developer in October stating that there would be local play (not Lan) and split screen CO-op. Google the topic if you do not believe me, there are about 10 links stating that a EPIC team member talking about this feature.

5)Gears of war has great single player with laggy multi, EPIC follows suit, with "craptacular" and half ass'd single player along with laggy servers. Not all the servers lag, depending on location however alot of people are FUBAR. I can only find 4 servers on average with a ping less than 100, and I have a 4mb transfer with my Cable company.

/RANT, the game doesn't deserve anything over a "8" score and was definitely rushed for the holidays.

Kaneda3494d ago

If he creates game for Xbox 360... medias considere him god...

if he creates game for PS3... medias slap him like biatch...

Real Gambler3494d ago

"1) Voice Communications suck. You have to at default, press the right directional button to talk. I found this out from a friend who found this info in a forum. DO you realize you have to actually stop moving in order to talk? Atleast it is there right?"
You can use the Play button to lock the talk. So voice is always open. No push button to talk.

"2) The back of the box states: " Add mods and maps created with the Unreal Engine 3 Toolset and use them on your PLAYSTATION 3 computer entertainment system." PS3 users got 4 maps, in which 2 of them actually freeze the console requiring the user to turn off and on the system via the switch in the back."
What the game was not long enough as it is??? I have finish the story mode (many hours of great fun, discovering the maps) and I'm still playing online. Not sure when I'll download the mods. What's the rush. Let them fix the bug first.

"3) After playing Gears of war, I expected a rich experience coming from the single player campaign mode. Its sucks, and it disappoints. All the campaign is bot matches with the Narrator of the story tring to explain how a Capture the flag match is actually a mission to turn off power respawners from the enemy. Its even worse that the A.I. is not that smart and people get confused, thinking the opposite since the AI is just accurate."
Well, I loved it. Love the fact I cool fool the AI by playing dead. Love the fact that the AI is not always aware of where you are. Sure it's not perfect, but the goal is to discover the game before you go online!

"4) No split screen whatsoever, despite only a EPIC developer in October stating that there would be local play (not Lan) and split screen CO-op. Google the topic if you do not believe me, there are about 10 links stating that a EPIC team member talking about this feature."
If Mark Rein would have said that, then sure, you would be right. He is the PR guy for Epic. Now if "A" guy made a mistake, it's the end of the world. Jeeez, from now on, they will likely lock all their employees until the game is finished!

"5)Gears of war has great single player with laggy multi, EPIC follows suit, with "craptacular" and half ass'd single player along with laggy servers. Not all the servers lag, depending on location however alot of people are FUBAR. I can only find 4 servers on average with a ping less than 100, and I have a 4mb transfer with my Cable company."

Well, I'm giving you this one... Somehow, the ping doesn't seem to mean much. I got a bit of lag on servers with really low ping, and got none on servers with horrible ping. Definitively something we will hear about until they fix it. I guess they didn't had enough beta testers to sort things out before release. I think it sold 70K in the US alone in the first week. Hard to get 70000 beta testers to rock those servers...

"/RANT, the game doesn't deserve anything over a "8" score and was definitely rushed for the holidays."
I least you still have Gears of Wars.

dantesparda3494d ago (Edited 3494d ago )

Wow, these guys really sound like they are b1tching over nothing. I wanna see if they will be or are this critical about a 360 subject

Update: Oh ok, if 5.1 Fanboi is right, then ok, that makes more sense, they are just acting stupid, its their schtick

Omegasyde3494d ago

Real gambler,

The game was rushed. Flat out. The game is better than GeOW but then again so is halo 3. I do like the game but this is clearly not PS3 game of the year nor multiplayer game of the year.

The stigma surrounding the title ( to me) did not meet expectations like the previous Unreal Tournaments. In the end I just wish the game was delayed a month or so, for the game to be polished.

ravinash3494d ago

But thats fine as a lot of people have now been able to enjoy playing this game over the Xmas break....not me however as I'm in the UK.
From what I hear, there are no problems with the basic game its self.
I hear that the voice thing can be set to on by holding down the talk button and then pressing the select button (or start or something like that).
The Mods will be fixed, so i don't know what all the fuss is about.

Kleptic3494d ago

Omegasyde...rushed?...maybe... but it still delivers pretty more than any other console game in the multiplayer department...

and frequent the forms more...there is a confirmed open mic glitch by pressing the right directional button and then start to lock open mic support...while Epic has commented that the first client side patch will allow that to remain, or give a settings option to leave it open mic enitrely...Epic heard the complaints about push to talk...it is being addressed...

the lag?...the p2p servers have it at times (its usually their ISP, not yours...so you are right to not blame your own connection)...but there are also over 60 Midway official servers...of which I ping regularly at exactly 100...never had an ounce of lag in any of those, and they still support the custom character models (disabling that drastically improves performance for p2p servers)...the official servers have been going on and off lately due to maintanence, but 3 or 4 are always available without being full for the most part...and with dedicated high speed servers such as those...don't worry about the ping as much...they are usually extremely smooth even with pings upward of 300 for most (a static ping doesn't always reflect how fast of a connection you can establish with the server)...

the mod support dude...don't worry about...no worthwhile mods have yet been built anyway...it will be a few more months before the contests start...and that is when the support will be important...there are like 60 maps or something shipped with the game...if you have all of those memorized and are ready for more than I salute you...they will come soon...

and finally...anyone expecting a UT game to have an extremely compelling single player experience purchased the wrong game...I can already tell that you were not a big UT fan before this..."after Gears I expected..."...you expected what?...more Gears of War?...luckily UT is NOT Gears...its as fast and crazy as shooters get...the single player is only a hardener to get you ready for online...you play bots...its not a true on rails single player game in any sense...its a practice section for getting used to the speed...and nothing more...and UT3 has the biggest single player campaign of any UT game yet...

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HarryEtTubMan3495d ago

I've been playing UT3 for 4 days straight... it is such a good game that screams Uber PWNAGE..... the graphics in HD are really really good too!

JasonPC360PS3Wii3494d ago

Can you download user created without Epic? Uh no! ahhh sh!t thats a bummer LOL.

dantesparda3494d ago (Edited 3494d ago )

And if thats a bummer Jay, then 360 owners must feel really bummed out by the fact that they cant do that on the 360 at all! And why aint you playing your 360? Troll!

SRuN43495d ago

Seriously.. have they made a game?

Until they do, they can stop talking for all I care, really dont care how popular they are with gamers. I didnt even know who they were until the whole Assassins Creed thing went down anyways.

Omegasyde3494d ago

Does it matter?

1up/ign/gamespot/any other game reviewer sites don't make games but are in the business to evaluate the game and give criticisms. Just like movie critiques.

EPIC rushed the game out, and Mark Rein dropped the ball.

gamesR4fun3495d ago (Edited 3495d ago )

they didnt deliver on their promise at launch hopefully they will soon.
ps you can transfer files from an i pod or just about any mps player/camera etc without hacking lol I suspect most ps3 owners have something they can use

Lumbo3495d ago (Edited 3494d ago )

Whole lotta backpedaling and redefining of their own words there.

First they claim the PS3 version has no mod support at all, they did not say the PC versions editor lack it, they specifically called the PS3 version unfinished. Getting the reply that the PS3 version is already fully equipped with the support they now CHANGE their stance and claim they meant that the missing editor feature would nullify the PS3 UT3's mod features (which is BS to be frank)

So instead of coming clean and admitting that they flapped their mouth before they knew for real and more than 2nd hand information they biatch and change their "statement" to fit their agenda. I would expect something like this from a PR department, but not from a webcomic page.

Next blunder is the "memory stick" BS, they interpreted MR's statement about how to get the mod to the box as memory stick only, and completely forgot the USB ports and DiskDrive in the console. Sadly instead of correcting their error they now claim they again meant that it is the spire of evil to ask a customer to use ANY sort of tool to transport the mod to the System and it be only more evil on the 40GB unit... and additionally they failed to know that ipods support the data transfer system to work as an external usb stick if switched to the right mode, no hack needed there, neither some "linux" system, boy what have they been smoking over x-mas?

I really like the comics, and i generally love to read the comments and rants, but this was handled less than perfect by the PA guys. In fact they come across as whiny kids who throw a tantrum over being corrected.

Bolts3494d ago

Rule number one about PA is they can never be wrong. They're not journalists, they're more of a graphic rant/blog site. Being right and credible isn't the focus, the goal is to entertain through absurd fanboyish and over the top reactions to everything. Any attempt to correct PA regardless of how reasonable and factually true, will result in massive flames or another brutal comic.

Real Gambler3494d ago

Well, even bad publicity is still publicity.

icechai3494d ago

seriously that rant about the "memory card" really pisses me off, and PA's forums are so annoying to navigate I can't find a thread about it to rant about their rant :P

Armyless3494d ago

Low-brow humor at best. Any idiot can rant, just read the comics and they prove me right.

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