GamePlayer writes: "Indeed, Fallout 3's been the biggest blip on our radar for about two years, since the Bethesda boys stopped working on Oblivion. We won't get it until 2008, but we're seriously looking forward to the collision."
FF13 is the biggest game of this era FF13 will be the RPG of all time FALLOUT 2 beats FF13???????????????? OMG @MK there is no RPG other than FF . Fallout 2 averages at 86% on GR . Fallout 3 might even perform like that or fare worse. MK ---what is happening to you FF13 has next gen graphics and gameplay. Fallout will be severly degraded since it is a multiplat title
FF13 is great and highly anticipated but: A. This is the most anticipated RPG / "FPS" there is. Mind the FPS part. B. Of course Fallout is more anticipated than FF. FF has had 12 games and endless spin-offs while being a great series mainly for it's story and themes. Fallout has had 2 main games and 2 spin-offs but the 2 main games are considered to be among top 5 best RPGs ever created from their deep character development system that is undisputed to this day to game's unique classical gameplay. Plus, it's from Bethesda that made the biggest RPG of this gen, namely Oblivion. EDIT: If average score on GR is important, they why StarCraft is at 88% while it's considered the best strategy game of all time?
gameplayer cant invent a new genre . It is just not logical. Fallout is not evn among the top 10 games of 2008. dont invent things by your own Yes it COULD BE ONE OF THE MOST ANTICIPATED NEW IPs of 2008 ---but it should be on any list among best 5 rpgs? FF7 is the best RPG of all time. all of FF sequels fight for top spot. There is nothing on earth that can even rival FF @jason It doesnt matter. the game comes out on PC as well as PS3 However very few people would be buying it especially when there is FF13 ---the biggest game of this era
Read my post to scrillakiller: Fallout = (Sequel to one of top 5 best RPGs ever) + (Bethesda / Developer of Oblivion) + (All the awards at E3) = Most Anticipated RPG Also, it's among top 10 most anticipated games of 2007 according to every major site and magazine.\ And don't forget, it's not a new IP. It's a sequel to a game that is among top 5 best RPGs of all time.
TANOD just hates this game because the 360 is the lead platform. P.S. TANOD do you just fallow MK_Red around? FF and MGS4 is that all you think about, what happens when those games come out? where you going to go then? They don't pump FF and MGS games out each year like Tom Clancy games. "FF13 and MGS 4 are the biggest and most anticipated games of this era" haha thats sooooo true (not) stop useing drugs.
Believe me, I've wasted quite a bit of my life playing JRPG's some pretty good, others repetetive pieces of crap, and so far they pretty much all have the same damn game play. These new western rpgs try poking into different elements of gameplay and discover something out of the box which ends up being amazingly fun, I mean, look at stalker, amazing gameplay if you bothered to play it.
Microsoft thanks you for your purchase of Windows to play this game on PC :-)
You can stop crying now.
@Tanod Mk_Red means that it is the most anticipated because major developers which made amazing games are working on it. It doesn't mean it will be the best or anything, just that people are looking forward to it. In other words its just being hyped. And truthfully I think Star Ocean would rival Final Fantasy, good thing both are coming to ps3. :)
Anyone who has ever played Fallout 1 or 2 knows that anyone who underestimates the franchise not only doesn't know what they are talking about, but also making themselves out to be a fool. This game franchise is widely considered the pinnacle of the WRPG genre, and for good reason. Claiming that the FF series could somehow be better when you have never played Fallout is like claiming Ridge Racer is better than Gran Turismo when you have never even played GT. PS the irony of Tanod calling anyone else delusional is nothing short of absolutely mindblowing.
A superb comment The Snake. Bubbles for you my friend. Great points and example (Ridge Racer and GT). And better than all, an undenniably true and perfect line: "This game franchise is widely considered the pinnacle of the WRPG".
"FALLOUT 2 beats FF13????????????????" Yes.
Stop using the argument that since developer made a great game before therefore Fallout 3 will be the best. Bioware made great RPGs and Mass Effect doesn't live up to the hype. There is more hype for FFXIII. Aside from PC guys even 360 guys are jealous that FFXIII is exclusive for PS3. I bet if there was a poll for a 360 gamer to have either FFXIII or Fallout 3, the 360 gamer will vote for FFXIII because of the "hype". I'm not saying which is the better game. I'm talking about hype.
GameRankings.com scores: R&C:Tools of Destruction PS3 89.0% Uncharted Drakes Fortune PS3 89.9% Folklore PS3 76.5% Heavenly Sword PS3 81% MotorStorm PS3 82.5% Resistance: Fall of Man PS3 86.9% BioShock X360 95.3% Gears of War X360 93.8% Halo 3 X360 93.3% Mass Effect X360 91.8% Forza Motorsport 2 X360 90% What did you say, TANOD?
F*ck ff 13, stupid asian crap, whens it going to end, ff 120 give me a break
why cant you give it a freaking rest, you argue over videogames like you'll die if you don't.
Wehn I look at this game I don't even puut it in the Jrpg game type. Yes still an RPG but it's nothing like a Final Fantasy type game. This will be a great game, you'll see. The devs are top notch. FF13 won' t be out in 2008, who wants to put money on that. If were looking at a Xmas 2008 window for NA when do you think EU and othe rparts will get it? It took like ayear to release FF12 here in the state. Anyhow this is anitipated, as well as FF but not the environment.
@Mikeslemonade - "Bioware made great RPGs and Mass Effect doesn't live up to the hype." Sure it does. Mass Effect is one of, if not the best game this year. It has a few things to improve upon, but it is truly an awesome game. The only reason you said that it doesn't live up to the hype is because it's not on PS3.
MK Red is just a fanboy(check his avatar). Yea Fallout MIGHT be consdered the most anticipated RPG/"FPS" of 2008 but to say the 3rd best selling and most valuable franchise of all time.... is even in competition with Fallout.. a game I had never heard of until the 3rd one... and no one really even knows or cares about yet. There is no reason to argue. YOU CAN LIE. But is very well known that Final Fantasy 13 and VS. are the biggest RPG's in the world being released practically this whole generation... not just in 2008. I am EXTREMELY excited for Fallout 3 also. Some of you guys are so bitter towards the PS3 you just lie. And you,yourself KNOW you will be buying one in 1-3 years. And to even consider Fallout as " a sequel to one of the top 5 RPG's ever" is HIGHLY FANBOYISH. No one even knows what fallout is... or what the stroys about. Stop lieing. Final Fantasy is BIG NUMBER 3 ALL TIME BABY. Gran Turimso is BIG NUMBER 10 ALL TIME BABY. You can lie or just not agree... but it is fact.... and the million who will be buygin FF13 also disagree with you ;)
You hate everything in the western hemisphere and you adore Japan. We get it, give it a rest already. Jeez, do us all a favor and just go live there.
Hopefully with a super strong E3 showing, Fallout 3 becomes THE most anticipated game there is (As it is for me).
Everytime i see this game, it gives me the bioshock effect (I thought bioshock was a decent game when i saw it annouced..but oww boy did it rock when i played it). Hopefully my gut feeling is right, and this might be a classic.
FF13 and MGS 4 are the biggest and most anticipated games of this era. FALLOUT 3 will sell like 1 copy in EU /JAPAN and might even bomb in NA no one is looking forward to this game. FF13 is totally different from previous renditions since for the first time FF will feature a FULL FLEDGED NEXT GEN GAMEPLAY @MK all anticipation of any game just fades away when there is FF13 and MGS4 any hype for any game is being killed by those 2. I agree Fable 2/Killzone 2 might rekindle their own hype but certainly everything will be washed away by the invincible FF13/MGS4 No game of this era could counter those 2
Nicosia, BioShock was actually partially inspired by universe of Fallout and it payed homage to Fallout in a couple of ways, from using same some music tracks to using Fallout's icon and symbols. The devs have also confessed that Fallout was a one of the biggest influences on BioShock. Plus, Bethesda of Oblivion fame working on sequel to Fallout (One of the best game of all time according to GameSpot, IGN, GameInformer, CVG and others), it HAS to be a classic (I hope and pray :) ). TANOD, it may indeed sell not too well but sales were never show of anticipation or quality. Look at Shadow of Colossus, a highly anticipated PS2 game that ended up a truely timeless classic but sold very few copies. Another example is Wii's highly anticipated Suda 51 game, No More Heroes which bombed at least in Japan. As for no one anticipating Fallout 3, how do you explain Bethesda's servers going down because of traffic pressure when they put Fallout 3's teaser online? (Something that only happend to RockStar when they released GTA4 trailer). Also, did you see best games of E3 award winners according to GameSpy, GameSpot, IGN, Game Informer and others? Fallout was Game of the E3 nominee along with best RPG winner in most.
Thanks for clearing that up MK, now this game is officially on my most wanted list :). If the vibe is bioshock style then i am happy! Also Bethesda working on it, bonifide awsomeness!
Glad to hear :) Bonifide awsomeness indeed! (Though I wish the original Fallout 1 / 2 team had made Fallout 3 but still, Bethesda is also uber great. I didn't love Oblivion as much as Morrowind but hopefully Fallout 3 ends up better than both of them.)
I am really looking forward to Fallout 3. If it is even close to being as open ended and deep as Oblivion, I will be very happy. The 360 is doing a really good job in the RPG genre. There has been atleast one truly epic RPG every year since its launch, along with several other pretty decent RPG's.
somehow i missed it.im not anticipating this game.im just waiting to see what its about
It's the sequel to Fallout 2. Fallout 1 and 2are among top 10 best RPGs of all time according to all known sites and magazines. Among many classic and old school RPG players, Fallout 1 & 2 along with Baldur's Gate 2 are considered THE best RPGs ever created. Also, this sequel is being made by the team that made Daggerfall, Morrowind and most recently, Oblivion. Not to mention that during last E3 (2007), Fallout 3 was nominated for Game of the E3 / Show by all sites and mags and the game was only 10 percent complete and 1 year and 8 months before it's release. Not mention how it won almost every best RPG of the E3 as well. Sequel to one of top 5 best RPGs ever + Bethesda / Developer of Oblivion + All the awards at E3 = Most Anticipated RPG there is :)
what are you saying Falloout 2 averages at 86% on GR and was refuted by all websites and mags OMG it is not even among the top 20 best RPGS/JRPGs MC and GR reviews dont matter much eg GR takes into account most of the reviews of pro-x360 sites so GR score for most x360 games are actually higher. Well no review/recommendation is actually valid /strong against the biggest RPG/GAME in GENERAL of this era --FF13 i am willing to buy Fallout 3---looks great However i am hyped for FF13 cuz that is unmatchable in terms of gameplay and graphics
MetaScore / Average score has never been a show of quality. Just check StarCraft: http://www.metacritic.com/g... It's at 88/100 but it's THE best strategy game of all time. Ask any RTS player and they'll tell you it's THE best in the genre. So 88 means it's not the best? Also, as for the bests or not, check IGN's list, GameSpot's list, CVG's list (In which Fallout was 5th or 7th best PC game of ALL time in general) and other sites. EDIT: @ Charlie2688 I know what you mean and see how TES series has changed. Bethesda has changed a lot and has made mistakes but I still have faith in them (Though there is no way on earth I'd trade Black Isle and devs of original with any of Beth people). And Oblivion is indeed nothing but a shodow comprated to something like Daggerfall (Even though my fave TES is Morrowind). I'm not defending Oblivion, just using it to show how F3 can be so highly anticipated. Still, I know what you mean, they have simplified the TES in every sequel. Daggerfall was THE classic as were Fallout 1 and 2. I'm more than sure that Fallout 3 won't come near those classics but hey, what other game has?
grow up, not everyone likes FF, I'm not even going to buy it, i dislike jrpgs, i like games like uncharted or mass effect more western games, but we don't all think like you(thank god)
everyone except a few likes FF It doesnt matter whether you like it or not BUT IT WOULD be smashing several records this time FF13 is the biggest and the most anticipated game of THIS ERA
psssht lol FF most anticipated game of this era.....bahaha lmao....ummm hardly Hell Halo has taken that crown for a bit...jus because of the retarded hype machine it had for part 2 and 3....but anyway past that.... Yes people do lkie their FF but it is hardly the biggest game around....There are franchises such as Gran Turismo and GTA that sell more copies and are usually more anticipated then your FF games.....im sorry but when you have made so many damn games using the same name....I think there is time for a change......Personally I hate FF games....cuz I prefer games that take skill not and over glorified cg movie....well in my eyes thats what it is like...jus not my taste..... Even though it is not a game I like I can still gaurantee you this game is not the most anticipated game....yea people want to see it but...games like MGS and GTA are being way more anticipated then your "precious" lol ....meh o well whatevs lol * my bad ill give it maybe one of the most anticipated games in say Japan...but do we live there...no????didnt think so lolg
@MK_Red: I don't think putting Bethesda in an equation that equals good or "quality" is a good thing taking into consideration what they did to the Elder Scroll series over the years and what they are slowly doing to the Fallout franchise ("to hell with the old make it a FPS!") And NO people buying Oblivion cuz for all those nice scores or/and how if you struggled in RPGs this one you were magically good at doesn't make it a good game even more if you bother to compare it to previous game of the series and realize that with each new game you get prettier graphics, bigger world but in exchange of having pretty much everything else chopped out, simplified or completely removed that is why Oblivion is but a shadow of what the masterpiece Daggerfall was if you don't belive or simply what to defend Oblivion for ANY arbitrary reason go and play Daggerfall and I bet you will be saying "Damn why didn't they made this one with the Oblivion engine"
I must disagree bro. Now I never played Fallout 1 or 2, and I'm not too much into the Fallout 3 hype. But saying Fallout 2 is not good because of the GR score is like saying a game with below a 90% score is not AAA. Both comments are not accurate. BTW: I too am excited about FFXIII, but that does not mean I'm going to miss out on other great games because of it.
it's been too long since the last fallout
This game is going to roooooooock. It will truly be my Oblivion, since I detest western/euro/medieval fantasy. 2008 is going to be the best year for games man and this is the truth.
You are a whiny child. Game reviews mean nothing. Game reviewers almost always fall for hype (Halo) and are often paid off by publishers. Fallout 2 is the best RPG ever made, plain and simple. I'm not saying that Fallout 3 will be one of the greatest ever due to it being delveloped by a different company than Fallout 2. However, Oblivion was a huge smash hit and I expect Fallout 3 to be much better than Oblivion due to the Fallout pedigree and the fact that the developers ditched Oblivion's poor leveling system for an experience based one. Now, go play some more Final Fantasy and keep letting review sites tell you what is good.
We can only hope he lets the review sites tell him what's good, because that will guarantee he plays this. Then maybe he'll be possessed of one less ridiculously asinine opinion.
This is definitely a part of my most anticipated rpgs. Now the list would be 1. ff13 ( and its spin off versus) 2. Star Ocean 3. Disega 3(sp) 4. Fallout 3. Thats like at least $300 there. :(. How will I afford it, not to mention other non rpg games. CRAP I NEED TO GET A JOB SOON!!!!!
Dude games arn't cheap, these things can cost more than drugs (not that I do drugs) but you get the picture. You could work as a tester if you can get to level 3 and like working for about as much as a McDonald's job for about a year and are willing to play broken games that you would never play (Vampire Rain, Gundum or Daikatana) <---all have to be tested believe it or not.
Actually I'm kinda only 15 and my parents disapprove of getting me a job since im only in grade 10. But, They said its okay on the condition that my grades don't slip and that I start after the break. @ Genuine I was actually thinking about that, but after high school I want to make sure I have a job since I don't really think I will have enough for my university education. Then there are other things which I will need to do such as getting a car, insurance, eventually rent for a apartment room (planning on going to a university which is quite far from home).
Not trying to tell you what to do hellbringer, but if it was me, I wouldn't geta job until I were 18. When you finish school, your going to be working for the next 50+ years of your life. You don't have to be in a rush, you'll be working your a*s off soon enough. I've been working for 18 years, and if I had it to do over I would have waited until I was no longer my parents responsibility. Besides, most of the jobs that you can get at age 15 barely pay enough to afford gas to get there and to get a bite to eat on your lunch break. My suggestion, if you need a few extra bucks mow yards or shovel snow for cash.
This game will be garbage, mark my words. Fallout 1 & 2 were amazing, Oblivion was garbage. I can't wait until the PC modders make the game right when beth releases their crappy game.
So true. I doubt many console gamers realize how much their copy of Oblivion absolutely sucks which is highly unfortunate. Only the PC community realized how flawed the game really is and made strides to mod it into the game it should've been. But thats par for the course with the PC, they don't have fanboys but actual game designers who can backup their whines with action.
have'nt really seen any trailers to this game but if the 360 is lead platform then that means the ps3 version will get screwed over atleast thats what ive seen over the past year any game that has to be ported over to the ps3 uslay lacks in graphix framrates. so ill just look forward to kz2 mgs4 for and gow3.
Bethesda is making this game. The team that made Oblivion and made an incredible port from 360 to PS3. 360 was lead for Oblivion as well but we all know how great the PS3 port ended up. EDIT: @ DJ Read my earlier comments or what The Snake has said in response to first comment in this story: "This game franchise (Fallout) is widely considered the pinnacle of the WRPG".
But I didn't even hear about Fallout until this article. What's so special about the series?
Simply put, Fallout is widely considered the greatest WRPG franchise of all time. It's like the WRPG equivalent of Starcraft.
I would say its the best rpg of all time not just wrpg it beats the crap out of any j and w rpg.
All this talk of western and japanese rpgs.... I'd love to see a middle eastern rpg for once...
this game is the biggest title in 2008 but no big as FF13, MGS4, R:FoM2&KillZone2
FF probably has more fans than Fallout due to FF appealing to a much younger crowd, but I don't think that RFOM2 or Killzone 2 will be as popular as Fallout 3.
dont even know Fallout so think about it, it may have 2 fansites or som, but its not that popular, and sure it will be a better sold game in america, cause america just buys amercian stuff lol even when it breaks they buy it again and again. Yes i think thats stupid, there is no love which lets the person buy this thing, its pure dumb'ness.
Lets get this out of the way. The vast majority of N4G users doesn't know jack about this franchise. For one they're console fanboys who worthship lame RPGs like FF so the Fallout universe is completely alien to them. I believe to actually know WTF you're talking about regarding Fallout you gotta be 25 years old and up so the demographic for this game isn't exactly of the mass market variety. Even the original Fallout and Fallout 2 didn't exactly sell like hotcakes in their days. Another problem with Fallout 3 is it's not a Fallout game in a classical sense. There's this weird synergy of Fallout meets Oblivion FPS and thats a radical departure from the top down/turnbased gameplay that made the original a cult classic so it might not appease the hardcore fans. There's so many way this game could fail but I believe Fallout 3 will be ok if the devs stick to the R rated theme of the Fallout universe.
Sure, it could be a bomb, but I think you're basing your argument on false info. Your understanding of the relative markets is a bit off. First, FF fans are not young. They are in their late 20s and early 30s. EDIT: Sorry about that, the first point should be aimed at CryBaby, not you. Ignore this one... Second, and probably more importantly here, do you know how old the average gamer is across all genres? I'll give you a hint; they aren't teenagers. Fallout won't suffer from age-based bias, it'll only suffer if it sucks. (I'm looking forward to seeing it.) Look it up. You'll probably be surprised.
Diablo 3 will beat both though
Easily one of the best games for 2008. Can't wait!
ameRankings.com scores: R&C:Tools of Destruction PS3 89.0% Uncharted Drakes Fortune PS3 89.9% Folklore PS3 76.5% Heavenly Sword PS3 81% MotorStorm PS3 82.5% Resistance: Fall of Man PS3 86.9% look at the games ! ps3 hasnt even brought out the killer games, and tose game for xbox is the best ps3 can offer ;) ps3 still has the ultimate lineup for 08 ( sry for bad english :P from norway= BioShock X360 95.3% Gears of War X360 93.8% Halo 3 X360 93.3% Mass Effect X360 91.8% Forza Motorsport 2 X360 90%
RPG elements involve!? I'm in for this game.
So excited for this one. Oblivion has some of the deepest RPG mechanics accompanied by the deepest gameplay mechanics I've ever seen in a game. The gameplay possibilities in Oblivion are just endless! Add a modern action combat system to that (kind of tired of the whole medievil setting really) and I'm in gaming heaven! Please release in 2008, PRETTY PLEASE!?
"deepest RPG mechanics accompanied by the deepest gameplay mechanics"? Have you ever played any other Western RPG's before? the mechanics and gameplay is so ruddy shallow, you'll not need a ruler to measure it. http://gravitons.gametraile... Read my review and respond to all the problems I pointed out with the game.
"Have you ever played any other Western RPG's before? the mechanics and gameplay is so ruddy shallow, you'll not need a ruler to measure it." True words. It's funny how most people that praise Oblivion's RPG elements obviously haven never played an RPG before.
"Oblivion has some of the deepest RPG mechanics accompanied by the deepest gameplay mechanics I've ever seen in a game." Notice the "I've" in there? And to clarify, I've never played a game that includes: stealing mechanics, pickpocketing, burgling, looting, creating spells, casting spells, mixing ingredients, repairing weapons, echanting ranged and melee weapons, trading/selling all kind of stuff, hunting animals, riding horses, eavesdropping, spying, exploring secret passages, puzzle solving, gambling, etc etc. Seems pretty deep to me! definitely beats RPG's such as Mass Effect/Fable and the likes. I haven't played all that many RPG's no, but that doesn't make my statement any less true. Oh, and thanks but I know exactly what's wrong or isn't with Oblivion as I've played the game to death myself. So I don't need you to point that out for me. Oh well. Perhaps I'm not enough of a 'hardcore PC RPG fan' to have a valid opinion on this. Yeah, that's it. [/sarcasm]
Wow. Is that the best you can come up with? Since when was spinning a little circle around as a conversation system a deep system? Since when was a HACK HACK SLASH SLASH BLOCK BLOCK HEAL HEAL fighting system ever deep? Play less crappy games.
People are hyped for this game???? Theres nothing there at present which makes me want to buy this, however i found oblivion boring as hell so that could be a reason
Well, I'm quite exciting but this never as FFXIII, Versus XIII and White Knights that 4 sure. BUT, I'm absolutely 110% agree with u about how boring Oblivion is at least for me is completely boring and lifeless >_>. I'm not alone on this world anymore hahahaha ^_^.
I'm sure "The Elder Scrolls V: Fallout 3" will be a huge hit, but I doubt it will be a worthy sequel to Fallout 1 & 2. The quality of FO 1 & 2 is irrelevant, since FO3 is not developed by Black Isle, but by Bethesda. "But Bethesda created Oblivion!" Exactly. And they showed they know nothing about what makes a good RPG. Oblivion might have been a good FPS, but it was a crappy RPG. The dialogue was very limited, rarely did you get to make any choices (just one way to finish a quest), the world leveling up simultaneously as you removed the RPG aspect from the game, and so on. Bethesda have already said they find Fallout's humor "silly", so there wont be any of it in FO3. They've said that dialogues cant have a negative outcome ("because they don't want to punish the player"), and so on. They're not interested in making a sequel for Fallout, but for Oblivion. Oh, and the sudden growth of so called "Fallout fans" since Beth announced FO3 sickens me (however they hate everything about Fallout's gameplay, atmosphere and so on, and are very glad beth is going to "fix" that). Hypocrites.
i've heard about the game last year that bethesda was working on it and i read a cover story on it in game informer. and it looks impressive, but when you mention rpgs for this year, any game magazine and website has it listed as FF13. i'd say that the 2 best western RPG makers is bioware and bethesda