Starting at 6:00AM on Boxing Day (that's December 26th for Americans), Futureshop will be offering up the HD-D3 for a mere $99.99 while supplies last...
toshiba will be bankrupt soon as they are practically giving them away and begging people to buy it
why can't it work for toshiba?
Seems like it's working for them, but I dont think they can go on like this forever.
I bought the A3 never heard of the D3
Since the PS3 loses money on every unit sold and Tosh's entry level gen3 HD player is sold at a profit, even at this $100CAD price tag... See the new Venturer model, is a rebranded, slightly stripped A3/D3 and sold at a profit for he cheap price at $100-200US.
The big profits are in the long run fellas, just do some research on how much Toshiba makes on patent licensing alone with normal DVD... I'll give you a hint, it's in the billions ;) ]
Besides, at the end of the day, this is Canada's Boxing Day, similar to US's Black Friday. I would pick one up in a heart beat if sold here in the US!!
Cusco is correct. Toshiba makes tons of money doing R&D for chips. Hell Sony is even paying them now to produce the Cell now. Tosh big money will always be the DVD patents. You can't even make a DVD or DVD player without paying them a fee.
While stocks last. So its a model thats being discontinued. Maybe Futureshop just want rid and it has nothing to do with Toshiba. Do you think Sega wanted retailers to sell the Dreamcast for $50 when it was going down the pan? or Sony with discounted Betamax players?
And you folks comparing this to the PS3 price cuts are idiots. This is a CLEAROUT FIRE SALE! Not even remotely linkable to the Price cuts to PS3. Not even PS2 sells this cheaply... do you get it yet? If not i'll spell it out.....
HDDVD IS DYING! Deal with it. And I say the sooner the better so that we can get on with HD.
1. HD-A3 was just recently released.
2. Boxing day is a Black Friday deal. Expect it to be a door buster type of sale to get people in the stores.
3. You suck at life.
D3 doesnt support 1080p....confined to just 1080i ONLY
D3 was released at the very beginning
It is a clearance sale.
HD DVD would sell so would BD on Boxing DAY and SO WOULD BE THE BD movies
BD movies would outsell HD DVD by big margins in the last week of December as well
HD-D3 is the HD-A3. It is an entry level HD player. For films, the difference between 720p and 1080p is there at different viewing distances and screen sizes but 1080i to 1080p you will NOT notice a difference. Think about how 3/4 of the US population with HDTVs have a 720p/1080i HDTV, what's the point of 1080p player? If you want 1080p, get a 1080p player. Just like if you want a player that can handle bitstreaming of DTS-HD MA or other HD audio sources, pay more for it. Besides, a good 1080p HDTV will deinterlace the 1080i source signal and output to.... OMGHI2U... 1080p...
The HD-A3 (aka HD-D3) was released at the end of the summer. Go research it before you make your bold and blubiased PS3 d*ckriding claims...
Thanks for playing though. Go spread your bullsh*t FUD on BD.com, they love trolling fanboys who don't buy BD films like you over there... What's next, the lossless vs lossy debate while using TV speakers? or higher bitrate showing an advantage? or the disk protection that is needed for BD? or having more studio support when majority of players are Sony branded? or the profile MESS? Need I go on? :rollseyes:
NEWSFLASH: HD DVD and Blu-ray are 2 solutions to the same problem. Technically the physical BD disk is better as it holds more information which is good for a PC storage medium but preaching $30 BD25gb disks when HVD 1tb disks are on the horison isn't something to boast about... As a means for HDM (high def movies) there is no difference between the 2 formats and has yet to be seen. BD just charges more for their players and is probaly why 92% of all BD players are PS3s, 4% are Sony branded BD stand alones and the remaining 4% are split amongst ALL OTHER CE supporting companies that the blu bloods preach. How exactly is this not a Sony format?
why don't they do deals like that over here in the UK?? At that price i would pick up a HD DVD player just for transformers and bourne
wow, thats cheap! if i didnt have blu ray(ps3), i would have bought that instead of a blu ray player.
The free movies is worth the $100 itself! And think about it, even if HD-DVD does lose, imagen how cheap you'll be able to get movies in the future!!!! Then you can upgrade to a combo player in the future and already have a HUGE library of movies!!!
That's 50 quid - The price of one game over in the UK.
That's the price of two games over here...
everything is expensive here in the UK, the price difference is £1 = $2
Lol next they will be giving them away must be a really crap player
Probably no pause button or forward button..:)
You will throw this away when you get your 1080p TV....
Good thing to know that the mass of people own a 720p/1080i HDTV. I guess it'll be about 96% of all HDTV's out there
@aiphane: There isn't a dimes worth of difference between 1080i & 1080p ( http://www.hometheatermag.c... ), but if you want to continue placing blind faith in the claims of snake oil salesmen, knock yourself out.
but sorry already have a ps3 in 1080p . But i will take it for free im not going to lie .
OH NOES FIRESALES EVERYTHING MUST GO!!!11
But they need another company making hd-dvd's also.
Even the high end hd-dvd players look cheaply made.
They need someone like pioneer to aid the effort.
They aren't helping themselves with these firesales. Onkyo had a HD-DVD player ready for the market but after the $99 A2 firesale, Onkyo canceled all their plans for HD-DVD. Toshiba undercut the market on them, who is going to spend $500 on their player when they can get one for $99 during one of these firesales.
Google: Onkyo DV-HD805 $799 at most places
Go to B&H in NYC and go see one in person. It's on 420 Ninth Ave.
Integra (www.integrahometheater.com) aka Onkyo's higher end brand has one as well and it sells for just over a grand.
Mis-informed BD fans.
ITR, ya look at my post "ready for market," meaning they had started making them already. That Onkyo you tout and by you're admission for $799? A few were produced and are on the market, look up if Onkyo is still making them, you'll find that they aren't produced any longer. If it makes you feel better they aren't making Blu or HDdvds right now.
HD DVD and future shops are trying to get people to cash in on those gift cards. HD DVD has to do something to counter those 1 million PS3 that will be opened up tomorrow here in US. HD DVD logical with only 40% use there PS3 for blu ray movies could mean death come tomorrow morning with the 400,000 new blu ray owners according to HD DVD logical.
Sheesh... you'll get one free in a cereal box soon! Do these prices strike anyone as deperate at all?
I've always wandered who's daft enough to commit to a HD format by only having a 1080i machine? I know its very cheap, but the fact is, the media is NOT cheap. If want to pay 2x the price of a dvd, then surely you are doing it to get the very best quality? Why do it for half the picture?
Half the picture? Ignorance is priceless: http://www.hometheatermag.c...
Half the picture?
The only difference is the frame rates.
One just flows a bit better. 90% of the time you can't tell if it's 1080i or 1080p.
30 vs 60 fps.
Do you think DVD manufacturers got desperate when they started selling DVD players under $100 bucks?
Nope, they did it because at that price they can sell volume, which in turn makes up for the lower profit margins.
Futureshop doesn't ship internationally, so all you Americans shouldn't get too excited. Im going to be picking up 5.1 Surround Sound speakers, and a GPS this boxing day!
Hundreds of dollars below cost can only mean one of two things: desperation to win, or desperation to get rid of stock before closing the format for good.
playstation 3 theory
Except its working for the PlayStation 3
PS3 murders x360 in terms of worldwide sales
so it should be X360
I can't be bothered being there at 6 but i might cruise on by around 9 and see what they have to offer. I am sure if i see one of those players left for $99 then i won't be able to resist the urge. If the blu-ray player was that low i would get that too but they have the sammy on for $270ish.
why dont they just give this up already...its friggin annoying...we need one format, they need a court ruling or something...just chose one HD format already
What people don't understand is that this is pretty much Black Friday... deals galore for us Canadians. It's basically getting rid of all the unsold stock of 2007. So I would guess that specific model isn't selling well with Futureshop, so they're selling it for an insanely low amount... and they will be gone fast. Same how Best Buy is selling most new games for $40 and older ones for $20... They need to get rid of it to make room for the new stuff coming in next year =)
I personally will be out at 5 or 6 in the morning to get a Monitor, a bunch of games and a bunch of Blu-ray movies ($20 each!).
This specific model was only released on December 15th so it has nothing to do with not selling. Now people that buy the HD-A3 can't price match because this sale is for the HD-D3 (same player, just includes an HDMI cable).
Clearance sale before the ship completely sinks.
You ask and you shall receive...
Every shop does this to get rid of backstock.
Reference 4 up
I mean damn its a great product! same for the blu-ray haters.
Because It is essentially toshiba and ms that is slowing down HDM penetration.
Ppl can say the that to blu-ray also but the differce is there is MUCH more industry support for blu tha hd-dvd
That argument doesn't really hold though because it was sony that broke away from the DVD forum because they wanted to try and start their own format. They do like to do that, which is a pretty large pain in the butt.
wallace read up on this
good read, good post
bubbles for you
when sonyfanboys cannot win they pull out conspriacy theory....LOL i wish i had control over the worlds governments like microsoft seems too....
dont worry HD-DVD owners Hearts will go on Forever
Nice..That is priceless right there.
that's a good deal.. even for a DVD upscaler...
ohh and yeah DJ and others... do I own Toshiba? nope.. so, what do I care if due to competition companies are forced to give their stuff?
Only a fanboy is happy paying more for (i.e. PS3, blu-ray player) just so they can say.. uhh look my format is winning...
I personally hope that these two formats endup ripping eachother up in pieces till the point that they include a free player with the purchase of a value meal at Mcdonalds...
I'm sure that if blu-ray would have no competetion... you would be getting no free movies and it would probably cost at least $800 to buy a player... ohh and the PS3 would still be $600...
To be honest with you ... I was hoping that the PS3 would beat the xbox 360 in the US at least 1 month... just to see microsoft drop the price of the xbox 360 again... I can't wait until the xbox 360 cost $200.... I wouldn't have to pay as much as I did for the 4 xbox 360 I purchased to give to some members of my family.
We wouldn't be getting free movies in the mail, and the PS3 wouldn't cost $399. But I prefer to live in something called reality, not hypothetical situations.
"I was hoping that the PS3 would beat the xbox 360 in the US at least 1 month."
Sorry to hear that, dude. I'm sure Sony will make you happy someday by...outselling 360 in the U.S.? Damn, you have some weird logic. But if it makes you feel better, PS3 outsold 360 in worldwide sales for the year. I know that's not "U.S. Sales", but it should put a smile on your face, since that's what you're hoping for and all.
It really doesn't matter which console outsells the other. Just be hopeful that your favorite console(s) does well enough that the hardware manufacturer supports it for a good 6 or 7 years. That's about all that any of us can do.
what kind of an idiot would pay $100 for piece of garbage??!!! I would rather spend 100 buck on games or BDs and DVDs.
bladestar: u r one the dumbest fanboys out here, so shut the fcuk up! xbox?lol!! why anybody would buy this garbage, that don't have games on 2008.
mmm... geee.. I don't know... I was asking myself the same question about those that paid $600 for worst $h!t, just to see the manufacturer matching it's true value to $399 because no one was buying it only 6 months later.
But I do agree.. there are better things to buy... like 10-15 xbox 360 games or 2 more xbox 360.
but who knows... some people are just plain dumb...
Bloodmask, you make me laugh.
In fact, a lot of people make me laugh on this site, and most of them are 'fanboys'.
Sure, we complain a lot about some of the idiots on this site, but think what it'd be like without them. Well, i'm not exactly sure what it'd be like, but it would certainly be less entertaining.
Keep it up, Bloodmask! And the rest of 'em too. You keep this site alive.
but toshiba has to let it go , only people supporting HD-DvD is the people that bought one. HD-DVD probably is great but they have to go blue .
a couple of months ago. It was pandemonium at the stores.
If thats what Toshiba must do, well sony had their firesale(everythig must got) with the PS3 and it helped a little. Well just a little spikes.
For the buffoons that keep saying Toshiba will go bankrupt, do some research and you'll see toshiba has technology and research with many partners.
How many format wars has sony lost but yet they still around. That because they are not only in it for a damn format...fools
Cheap so soon means only one thing. A sellout. Toshiba could be trying to sell out their stock of units so cheap because they are probably not selling. If you google sales for blu-ray around the world, you will see that it is higher than hddvd. The blu-ray companies could if they wanted to sell their units cheaper which Samsung has already done and others to follow.
Here is an eg. http://www.pocket-lint.co.u...
Toshiba might as well just call it quits
they don't have a chance anymore.
Blu-ray is the main format used upon more than 70% of the movie industry.
Only two companies other than MS support this format exclusively and that's Dream Works and Paramount.
Blu-ray also has more variety than HD DVD by a lot.
7 out of 10 box hit movies have went to Blu-ray compared to 3 to HD DVD.
Sorry Toshiba but transformers isn't enough to keep you in this competition.
The millisecond I saw that price, I knew it wouldn't be 1080p.
That's the clincher for me, as I see myself getting a 1080p tv in the next 3 or 4 months.
Thank you, PS3!
Not a bad deal for the price.
i meen there are more HD DVD standalone bought then there is bluray so why should they leave
standalone players are were its at...you think the whole world is going to buy a PS3 for a bluray player NOPE
for people who dont have an hd dvd its an amazing product...because i own one =)
WHO DELAYED THE WAR!!! SONY DID...WHY?
they put a bluray player in the PS3!!! it would have been over by NOW!
pshizle you are right why should hd dvd give up? Hd dvd has an installed base and those people would really be angered if hd dvd just decided not to make any more movies, same goes for blu ray. No doubt hd dvd looks great, same with blu ray, they both rock compared to dvd, but dvd aint to shabby either. The blu ray & hd dvd group should just conjoin and call it truths, so that way each movie company releases their movies on both formats, this would work really well when things get even cheaper to manufacture. I would love to watch the matrix on blu ray & iam sure all you hd dvd fans would want to check out the new james bond movie on hd dvd. One more thing it isn't just sony, its the 9 founders of blu ray, even if sony didn't put blu ray on the ps3 blu ray would still be around ala standalone players, you got to remember that.
Are they going to rise the prices of hardware when they "win" the format war?
Or are they just desperately dumping hardware to have chance to stay in the game?
A quick question, Im looking to buy a Blu ray or HD DVD player seeing as how I have none at the time. Should I wait until one format clearly wins, or when there is a dual player or what. And btw does blockbuster only exclusively sell Blu ray or HD DVD because If there is no dual player i will probably end up gettin whatever blockbuster rents out.
Oilers Fan check out some of the movies that are on blu ray & hddvd, if one format has more movies that you like than i suggest get that format. As far as blockbuster goes they support both formats online, usually they have a wider selection of blu ray movies though in their stores, at least the one that i go to does. Both formats are going to be here for a long time so its not like you will get shafted anytime soon man. Another thing, both formats look awesome if you have an hd tv man. Have fun watching some movies in high def
1080i contains the exact same image data as 1080p aka. there is no difference in image quality that results from an HD player outputting 1080i vs. 1080p ( http://hometheater.about.co... ). The fact is that 1080i vs. 1080p is only a valid selling point for HDTVs, but this story isn't about HDTVs. By the time most consumers consider an HD player it's too late to matter anyway as they already have an HDTV attached to a wall at home & Toshiba's $100 HD-DVD player will deliver the exact same image to that set as Sony's $400 PS3.