With a $399 price tag and some heavy hitters like Burnout Paradise and Metal Gear Solid 4, now is the time to purchase a PS3.
line up man, 2008 is gonna be a killer year
Yep, I don't think many people still grasp at how large Sony's first party development has grown since last gen.
Last gen you had 125+ million people from around the world buy PS2s for Sony's combination of first party + third party games.
This gen you have the PS3 that has virtually every one of those first party + third party games with the addition of an insane amount of new exclusive first party games.
The PS3 has of course long passed the 360 in Japan. And the PS3 now has passed the 360 across most of Europe other than the UK in just nine months. So by the start of 2008 the 360 is only going to be leading in installed base in just NA, and the UK, and maybe a few random minor countries.
Third party developers are looking at two consoles:
* Selling well in all three major console regions
* Most powerful console by a huge margin: Killzone 2, GT, Uncharted, etc
* Next gen storage - 25/50 gig discs
* Rock solid reliable console
* Open and developer friendly online system - Epic/Unreal, NCsoft games, etc.
* Dead in two of the three major console regions
* Weak and difficult to use graphics hardware - idiotic too small for 720p 10megs of EDRAM setup forcing developers to waste time writing tile based renderers or just skipping having decent AA in their 360 games
* Gimped storage format that is 1.5 gigs smaller than last gen
* Unprecedented hardware failure rates
* Closed and developer hostile online network - Epic is having to waste a half a year rewriting UT just to work with Microsoft's online network
HAHA SONY DRIODS ARE DESPERATE AYE SO we shud buy aps3 says a nobady makiong up storys hahahaha i will never buy a ps3 till 2009 maybe
stay an xbot. YOu're one of the biggest x-DROIDS around. Stick to your own and don't violate the Laws of Nature. Could be the end of the universe.
Naruto is better than DBZ. the jap version is the best. Eng sucks
Watch it here and dont cry
(mind the language)
I have a PS3. It is beating the XB360 in two regions. The XB360 is far from dead in the European region. It is actually quite on par with PS3 sales in Europe. I think the PS3 will win in two regions, and it will be a tie in NA... but the XB360 have made great gains this generation.
In Japan it is dead. In NA it is leading. In Europe it is competitive. Don't act like a frustrated drag queen.
i've downloaded the WMV files off gametrailers. It WORKS on PS3!
There are actually two TV Spots to enjoy. ;)
embed it too, thanks.
EDIT: @TheMART. some of the games you mentioned are first party titles. if you noticed games like rachet and clan, when that came out people were going crazy for it. so i think its better to show your product now and get the consumer's attention.
People were going crazy over Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted...
Is that why Uncharted only moved 117k in sales? And R&C didn't sold a lot also?
To Tanod (below)
So why did Sony need to drop the price of the PS3 in Europe within 6 months from 600 to 400 Euro? Because the PS3 didn't sold like they expected.
Why don't PS3 owners buy games then?
PS3 attach rate @ launch: 1.5 game per unit
PS3 attach rate now: 3.6 games per unit
360 attach rate @ launch: 4.5 games per unit
360 attach rate now: 6.6 games per unit
The PS3 isn't doing well at all. Sorry to burst your bubble. Again.
Ucharted outselling a 360 game? Hahaha come on. Halo 3 sold 5 mln. copies in a few months. Gears of War sold over 5 mln. copies. Even Mass Effect outsells Uncharted.
go play your cartoon HALO 3 or ur BREAK BOX 360.
people buy x360 because of games????????????
Oh really . This is why X360 is the least selling console on a WORLDWIDE basis
PS3 has far better lineup with Resistance, UT3,Motorstorm,NGS,Ratcget and ofcourse the AWESOME UNCHARTED
x360 has no games except HALo 3 --the cartoon game.
Bioshock and Gears are on PC too. UT3 is upgraded version of GEARS LMFAO.
BTW UNCHARTED makes Bioshock /Gears or any game on any console look like OUTDATED TRASH
The AI of UNCHARTED is TRUE NEXT GEN. The GRAPHICS are only matched by CRYSIS
BTW Uncharted is outselling all x360 games on a worldwide basis . Dont take just NA sales into account. TAKE worldwide sales and then see what happens
PS3 attach rate now: 3.6 games per unit
360 attach rate now: 6.6 games per unit
The 360 has been on the market for roughly twice as long as the PS3.
Thanks for showing that the PS3 has a somewhat larger attach rate than the 360 even with your inane Xbot numbers.
The PS3,Wii,360 all have roughly the same attach rates unless you are using vgchartz fanboy fantasy land numbers.
The problem for the Wii though is that even though it does have roughly the same attach rate as the PS3 and 360, it is 90 percent first party Nintendo published titles.
I don't get it. When the games mentioned will release in 2008, why is it now the time to buy a PS3?
It would be smarter to wait till those games release (for example MGS4, GT5, KZ2, God of War 3 and Little Big Planet about all release at the end of 2008), there is a big chance the PS3 price has dropped to somewhere between 200 and 300 Euro/Dollar, you get a rumble controller with the package, Home will be there finally and you can get it in white.
Buying it now would be pretty stupid
buying xbox 360 now is a very risky move.
After all that hype with bad customer service, unreliable machine, noisy fan, RRoD, pay for online service, pay for HDDVD expansion when HDDVD figure are dropping.
PS3 are doing well at the moment. There are more games out than what you think.
If you dont have PS3 WHY BOTHER POSTING?
So you're picking one up at the end of 2008 then?
all the things you mentioned have been public knowledge but yet it hasnt stopped people from going out and buy the system. the reason for that is GAMES. games that are currently out are driving the console sales not games that will be out.
people were saying its stupid for MS to only show this years lineup i mean look at the console sales do people still think it was a bad idea?
"buying xbox 360 now is a very risky move. "
Wrong. All 360's that have a MFR date of October and up, have 65nm chipset and the extra heatsink. No problems of overheating. It has the best gaming experience and a 3 year warranty. Buying a 360 for a gamer is the best move now. A PS3 maybe next Christmas. When the promissed games aren't delayed any further to 2009.
"If you dont have PS3 WHY BOTHER POSTING?"
Because this video saying buy it now and mentions the games for 2008 is stupid, as mentioned above. Get rumble, a lower price and the games when you buy it the 2nd half of 2008. Simple as that.
It is staggering to look back at the performance of the PS2 worldwide since the first Xbox was killed off by Microsoft.
Sony has sold more PS2s worldwide in just the time since the first Xbox stopped being produced than Microsoft managed in the Xbox's entire life.
That is what gets you developer support across the globe in all three major console regions.
No sane developer outside of pc centric US developers are dumb enough to tie their development resources to a console like the 360 that is:
* Selling at roughly the same rate worldwide as the first Xbox marketplace flop
* Made by the company that pulled the plug early on their last console leaving developers scrambling to deal with the mess
* After two years on the market still has unprecedented hardware failure problems
* Actually has 1.5gig LESS storage than last gen
* Is dead in two of the three major regions
what the point? IF gamer want a PS3 he will buy a PS3.
OF`COURSE BEST is to wait 80GB bundle with MGS4 in spring 2008 with dualshock3 for 449$. But people have a CHOICE when to buy, IT IS THEIR MONEY.
OVERALL, i hope we agree, that PS3 will DOMINATE in 2008? =)
MART: Microsoft Action Response Team
@TheMart: Agreed 100% +bubbles exactly what i wanted to comment. The damn list of games has been shown since E3 2005 and after 3 years most of the games are nowhere to be seen. MGS, GT, FF all are getting delayed and maybe even land up in 2009 so why the hell would anyone pay $500 to play ps2 games or watch BD movies? When they can pick up 360 at lot less and play great line up of games.
What do u mean alot less? the standard and playable Xbox 360 is selling at 350, which is only 50 dollars than PS3. It makes all sense to pay the extra 50 bucks for the solid and superior machine... Well, unless you are a cow or a mule then ya you'll probably get a last gen 360..
If I was a developer I would not be exclusive and I sure as hell would get on a system where I could sell some games 360 but I agree you should buy one when those games come out and I dont know be able to play them. This is just an ad to get people to buy PS3's so if you have one why are you posting.
sony fans can do all the likke the 360 is kicking sony ass u can type all u wamnt to soothe urself but at the end of the day 360 is owning ps3 hahaha why even replay to this sony kids hahaha they are crying so they get on the net mgs4 old/tekken 5 garabge/ther eno game in 2008 that good coming out for sony ps3
if it wasn't for your avatar, and your constant anti-Sony postings, this would be considered a very valid and un-biased post. I agree with you. With all their big IP's coming next year there really is no reason to rush out and buy a PS3 now. Next year will be a different story.
BTW, I'm not so sure you're right about the 360 overheating problem being solved. And having to fork over 50 bucks right out the box to even play with your friends online is still a rip off.
Its was a good deal then, and with the proce drop an even better deal now.
And I've had hours of fun on it.
2008 is Ps3's year then the year after we got final fantasy, it's all over we won
What is the price you get from "winning"?
... The Mart will cry, thats our prize.
(The Mart is Bill Gates)
The PS2 has reached 125-130 million worldwide with the single greatest library of games ever for a console:
Metal Gear Solid
Team ICO Games
Ratchet and Clank
Jak and Daxster
As those gamers upgrade to 1080p TVs over the next five years wonder which console they will be buying...
it's called the wii.
EDIT: i love how i got 2 disagrees within seconds.
sonyfans need to wake up and smell the coffee. ps3 will NOT sell 120 million.
ps2 was the only good choice last gen, this gen there's actually variety.
stop being pansies and accept it.
The casuals are buying Wii until the big games of PS3 hit the scene
Most of the wii owners would be buying a PS3 when it comes down to 250/300
The owners of wii are mostly underaged KIDS and SENIOR CITIZENS who play wii in their spare time
PS3 will sell more than PS2 in its entire lifetime
xbug 360 has nothing left, no games for 2008.
UNCHARTED killed all hype for x360 and all its games .
imagine what happens when FF13/MGS4/GT5 lands .
Ah right... that's how you call:
Gears of War 2
Splinter Cell: Conviction
GTA IV the complete story incl. 2 episodic downloads
Left 4 Dead
Fallout 3 (development on 360)
Huxley (40 gamers online in Resistance? What about 5.000 in a city/area and 100 vs 100 battles?)
Ninja Gaiden 2
Sorry, you failed. Any game the PS3 would have, the 360 at least has one alternative.
"Any game the PS3 would have, the 360 at least has one alternative"
I'm not going to make this long. I'm only going to say "LittleBigPlanet".
Now I'm eagerly waiting for your response :)
Alan Wake ----what a JOKE ....did u see the gameplay footage of that garbage game
Gears of War 2 ----We have UT3 . uses the same engine as Gears /Gears 2.However it is totally unimpressive VS UNCHARTED ---The real next gen GAME
Too Human ---arent u even ashamed about this game. See its disappointing gameplay footage at GAMETRAILERS
Splinter Cell: Conviction ---lol another EA/Ubisoft crap. available on PC too
Lost Odyssey ----Looks like a PS2 game (IGN)
GTA IV ---PS3 has exclusive content too and comes on a single BD disk unlike 2 disc for x360
Left 4 Dead ---lol what a joke game
Fable 2 --------lol again
Fallout 3 (development on 360) ----also on PS3
Huxley ---Agency/3 other MMos for PS3 . one being GUILD WAR PS3
Ninja Gaiden 2 -----another mega flop game . Will flop in Japan and Eu. Only some XTARDS will buy it in NA
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NOW TIME FOR SOME PS3 CARNAGE
FF13 ---BIGGEST AND BADDEST GAME OF THIS GENERATION
MGS 4---2nd BIGGEST GAME THIS ERA
GT5---THE BIGGEST RACING GAME OF THIS ERA
KZ2---THE BADDEST AND THE BIGGEST FPS OF THIS GEN
MOTORSTORM 2---THE BEST OFFROAD RACING GAME
WKS ---2nd BIGGEST RPG OF THIS ERA
WAR DEVIL ---TOTAL INNOVATION like the AI of UNCHARTED
LA NOIRE ---WOULD REDEFINE GAMING
HEAVY RAIN --FULL FLEDGED AND TRUE NEXT GEN INTERACTIVE GAME
AFRIKA -----------------do i go on
HEAVENLY SWORD 2 --THE CONTENDER for GOW3's glory
UNCHARTED 2 ----UNRIVALLED
PS3 has all the games of X360 but better
FF13,MGS4,GT5 are the biggest games of this era
GT5 makes Forza 2/PGR4 look like wii games
well actually i am drunk now so i don't really now but good work
@ 6.4 Turd oops sorry tanod
And you're the biggest blindest bat, sony droid, lemming , fanboi of all.
some heavy hitters like Burnout Paradise
Only retard would consider buying the 3FIXME BOX.
was the "a" too big a word for you to use? and you call other people retards. I bought a PS3 and have now confirmed it is a waste of money. I seriously dont know what you fanboys are on about, the games on 360 are both better and more plentiful. I would love to see a must have title so I could justify this bluray player. I played uncharted and it is an awsome game but very little replay value there so I sold it. now I have only one game and I dont think i will be ejecting COD4 on the 360 for a few months. All multiplats are gonna be on my 360 and only exclusive PS3 games if they ever get released will make it to my PS3 if i dont sell it on craigslist first.
Persinally I enjoys PS3s line up more, but first and foremost I'm a gamer. If someone makes a good game, then buy it.
I love these commercials.
Hopes and Dreams
...along with more xbots starting to feel a bit more jealous at the PS3 crowd.
in b4 denying it. lol
Hey of course xbots will think everything promoted by Sony is stupid. Cause hey, otherwise you have to be jealous of what you dont have, amirite?
Well that's fanboism in a nutshell. Insecurity. People who secretly wish they had the other console as well and can't afford it, so they bash and hope the other fails, because they don't want to be missing out on something they can't afford.
Show me someone who can afford all 3 systems, and I'll show you an unbiased person who is enjoying themselves. Show me an insecure person with one console, I'll show you a fanboi. Then, a person with one console and a good attitude, not a fanboi...and enjoying themselves.
And no, I'm not talking about just 360 owners. The Wii and PS3 fanboism is ridiculous here also. (although in my observation, 360 fanboism is the worst and the most widespread.)
And particularly on this site. Xbot fanboism and attempts at creating flamefests are started on a daily basis here. What is you people's problem? Are you that insecure? Are you the much of a trollish human being? Are you that broke?
And spend your time playing your godsent 360 that you are so loyal to instead of talking about and looking up articles on PS3 to start crap. You are so obviously jealous. And that goes to some of you others with other consoles.
I own only a PS3.
I rarely look at articles on 360 or Wii. I don't need to. And they don't need my comments.
I hardly ever comment in 360 or hd dvd articles for that same reason. Unless it interest me of course. Like lost oddessey. When it comes to that game I do comment on occasion because it was one of the only games I actually wanted on 360.
It does get tiresome when people that don't even HAVE a console like to attempt to find articles just to try to make the console look bad. There are quite a few of them but I won't mention any names
They are getting better at it.
YOU CANT ARGUE WITH A XFAG THEY ARE STUPID THEY ONLY REACHED 4TH GRADE IN SCHOOL BEFORE DROPPING OUT TO PLAY GALO ITS SAD REALLY SONY HAS BEEN IN THE VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY FOR 15 YEARS AND JUST BECAUSE A NEW CHALLENGER STEPS INTO THE RING WITH SONY THE XTARDS SIDES WITH THEM AND ALWAYS BASHES THE PLAYSTATION BRAND ITS PITIFUL AND ITS NOT WORTH SAYING ANYTHING OVER ANYMORE
Hi, Xbot in disguise (I sure hope you are)
Sony really should just show user made vids. They are FAR better.
I personally for 2008 will include only MGS4, KZ2, GT5, LBP, FFXIII - and that would be OWNAGE.
But, maybe their ads just appeal to casuals..
*Sigh* Am I the only one bored of the constant console bashing on the boards?
Anyway 2008 looks to be a great year for Playstation 3 owners, I hear the console "has no games" a lot funny that because there are so many games I want to get for Playstation 3 I can hardly afford them all.
With Grand Theft Auto IV, Metal Gear Solid 4, Silent Hill V (possibly), Killzone 2 next year is going to be awesome. Although seriously when Grand Theft Auto IV finally releases I doubt I will be playing anything else for AGES.
I was just taking a break from some marathon WarHawk wig-splitting. I must say dayum, because TANOD - you outdid yourself with #6.4.
I wasn't even going to comment, but that post was just fuccin' Nuclear. I thought my monitor was going to explode or invoke spirits or something.
That was Epic. Rock on.
P.S. - I love my PS3's & all of that *wonderful 3rd party support! 8D
was impatient waiting for the ps3 release so said why not ( im a gamer not a fanboy )got 3 games tenchu gears and forza . i liked them yes as it was a step above the ps2 which was a system i loved . initially got the ps3 as a blu ray player because with being in the studio recording a lot i didnt have much time for gaming (never went gold with xbox 360 for same reason).got 3 games at launch with ps3 cod3 resistance and motorstorm. all 3 of these games stood up with anything id already played on the xbox. over the past year i have noticed the quality of games are getting better for both systems but the ps3 is starting to outshine the 360.my xbox now has since rrod on me but to be honest the more im seeing of the ps3 the less i care for the 360.yes i am a sony fan i like their games - and after what was the success of their previous 2 consoles i dont get how people can think this will be any less a success.seems to me that xbots will say anything to bring down ps3. all i can say to maybe 1st time buyers is dont be suckered into buying a system that has a defective rate like xbox has , it has good games but system is truly junk.anyway 3rd party support is getting stronger and from mid 2008 onward i doubt it will even be an issue, but to be honest i think most people bought a sony system to play 1st and 2nd party games on it not gonna list them you being a sony fan like myself will know what is coming .you maddens seem to be one of the few level headed ps3 fans in here and bring up some good valid points so have a bubble as it seems your dropping the past while . happy christmas and happy gaming !!!!
Hopes and dreams eh? you mean like MGS4 coming to the 360. Yeah man totally true.
Is that all you can say?
You sound dumber than Fart (at least he explains even though without success why he hates sony). Come out with something more original, or are you too stupid to speak?
GUYS I just got my PS3 TODAY!!! and have been playing it all day!! I got Warhawk( WOWHAWK) UT3( freaking Awesome!) Resistance and Motorstorm!!! Lets pwn some noobs on UT3, Warhawk and Resistance... I'm gonna make another PSN ID but for now its.... LloydChristmas1
UT3 is sooo good!
thougth you claimed that you got your PS#3 on Black Friday?
Wonderful. More PS3s online makes the internet a better place. More people on Warhawk is always a good thing.
PSN ID: TFX-Razor
Look guys, I notice that you like to bust The Mart and Bloodmask's balls all the time, but understand that this so-called "war" is all in fun. Stop taking it all so seriously.
The Sony Playstation 3 is going to have a great 2008. There's no doubt about that. But to assume that Microsoft and Nintendo will just sit back and allow them to gain more Market Share is a joke. You KNOW that they'll do whatever it takes to combat the strong titles from Sony.
In my opinion, The Mart and Bloodmask are the only ones on this site that have passion along with facts to back it up. The bulk of you Sony Fanboys just spew fanatical garbage that doesn't quite add up. ESPECIALLY TANOD. Oh my God. If you Sony Fanboys want him on your team, feel free.
The facts are:
XBOX360 has a 7 million console lead right now.
One of the first heavy hitters for the Playstation 3 is Killzone 2.
Killzone 2 will NOT move consoles. It's not mainstream enough. Sorry.
Haze has been delayed.
Little Big Planet (a real console mover) has been delayed.
Metal Gear Solid will move consoles, but not as many as you fanboys think. A stealth game is not mainstream enough. Sorry again.
At the end of 2008, Sony will still be behind the XBOX360 by 7 million consoles. Just watch. Because the one thing that Sony can't deal with is a MAJOR price drop from Microsoft. That would be a AAA Title KILLER. In addition, Microsoft has a strong list of titles of its own. You don't think Halo Wars will garner buzz just from the name alone? And you don't think that Microsoft is going advertise HEAVILY that the downloadable content for GTA4 is on the XBOX360?
One last thing, if Metal Gear Solid doesn't move TONS of software in that first week. That will be trouble for Sony. That game had better move a million right out the gate.
If not, what will that do for the rest of the so-called Heavy Hitters for 2008?
And what if Gears of War 2 actually DOES unveil for Christmas 2008?
Do you honestly think ANY Sony title can compete? Just a thought.
Good luck guys...
I don't know mate. I mean I don't have any lovely big sales numbers to bring up because quite frankly I don't care enough to get them. But I do have my own thoughts. I'd say the PS3 will grow in sales just from what i've heard from people. Like I said this isn't official stuff from Sony (but I can easily ask as there is a member of Sony NZ in my house) but i'm just looking at trends.
I've asked a number of people I know have an interest in games in my community about their consoles. Of course when it comes to next-gen the 360 outnumbered the PS3. But the vast majority of people own PS2s. Out of every person I asked who have PS2s every single one (And I mean every) said they have plans or are saving up to get a PS3. In my country they aren't too cheap either (NZ$800 for a 40GB without games) so it seems most people here are slowly saving money for the PS3.
From what i've also seen is there are a number of people over here who know very little about what's coming up but once I shown them Killzone 2 (Killzone is fairly popular over here) they were stunned. Along with the mention of Final Fantasy XIII and MGS4 they became convinced that a PS3 is the way to go.
Like I said this is just random stuff not big numbers but a personal touch to this kind of stuff should be appreciated. I could however check out the *real* Sony sales over on another laptop which would also have Sony XD Cam, Bravia and Blu-Ray sales info on it but I can't really be bothered. So yeah, by next year most people would have saved up or made their decisions over the IPs they are very farmiliar with. This will probably mean the PS3 will overtake the 360 over here, but I don't know.
Off topic: Is it just me or are those bloody comments in capslock annoying or what? Please, capslock is very hard to read just avoid it.
2009 is my year to buy a ps3.
it reaches $129
Great, another please buy me attempt.
I really love my PS3.
Do you really think 7 million lousy consoles is a lot to Sony? Listen to yourself think before you say stupid things on the internet son. Market share is the answer to your so called "lead". The loss of market share can dramatically effect the course of this "lead". The more you give up, the smaller the number of people influenced in buying the product and obviously the end of those people buying the product there altogether, thus making it sell at a slow rate. So the other company's console sales go at a much faster rate. Of course there's a lead because the 3fixme laucnhed 2 years ago. But it was too early; & you will replace the 360 in '09 and fleece your faithful once again.: Fatal Flaw #1
-- "And what if Gears of War 2 actually DOES unveil for Christmas 2008?
Do you honestly think ANY Sony title can compete? Just a thought." --
Here's a thought - of course there are games than will compete with this game and I for one believe the *only way it can improve is by imitating or trying to one up KILLZONE II. GOW was XBox360's zenith (in graphics) and nothing else has gone there since. It will have to go through a massive overhaul to match the mayhem on screen I've seen and know will be in KZII. It's tired now, familiar; almost pedestrian. There's no way it will match that game, because KILLZONE II has defied the odds and made what most thought was impossible, a reality, and because the 360 does not have the CELLBBE nor a Blu-Ray gaming format. Microsoft was left with egg on their face after KILLZONE II b*tch slapped the crowd and all the doubters at EEE3 '07. In fact, it's makers back HD-DVD, which is losing in some areas of the world by as much as 20:1.: Fatal Flaw #2
You underestimated Sony and your public and effectively killed the XBox (games) and basically wiped out bac-compat. You beLIEve that a console's best cycle is every 4 years. So, guys get ready to shell out more money for more *rrod which sadly I know you'll do in 2009. Fatal Flaw #3
-- "One last thing, if Metal Gear Solid doesn't move TONS of software in that first week. That will be trouble for Sony. That game had better move a million right out the gate." --
What are you a damn company comptroller? Give me a break. Sony knows exactly what they're doing and I guarantee that you don't. You're in a game forum doubting a company that has served *millions of consoles to the people of the world for decades. Do you believe Hideo and Sony (probably with Ken in the shadows) are not orchestrating a great marketing campaign to present to the ad guys? I like what I see from Sony right now. Good things are happening. Stop fooling yourself. Don't fight it, just game and live in peace and drink Coke. Take care.
I'm sorry, your comment=FAIL