Daav from NoobFeed.com looks at where Sony's been before looking at where they're going. How has their track record been in the handheld market and does it pay to jump on board blindly? History says no, but that doesn't mean anyone should. Still, a bit of hindsight and caution can't hurt. Sony has made these claims before.
The thing is worth EVERY SINGLE PENNY.
after the launch games, my most wantend now are :
Dragon Crown
LBP Vita
Gravity Rush
and i want western releases for:
Ragnarok
Tales of Innocence
night of the Katimari (was the best reviewed game at the Japanese launch)
cant wait for E3
Who exactly is he talking about? Himself?
This article was all about the author b****ing about the PSP.
One minute he talks about PSP in general, then suddenly the PS Vita, then some other shit...
It didn't make sense.
Is he complaining about PSP as a whole or just the PS Vita?
I mean, the PSP Go was a flop, but that is it. The original PSPs were absolute class. The PS Vita is just (insert adjective), seriously though, the PS Vita is absolutely amazing.
Fifa
3DS
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
PSVita
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
F1 2011
3DS
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
PSVita
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Actually, more power and better graphics means more potential for bigger worlds, more lively worlds, and more clarity for control.
But controls have a lot more to do with gameplay potential, anyway.
And which system has two control sticks and a backpad (along with all of the other controls featured in the other system)?
I guess we could argue Mario vs Uncharted at this point, but we both know that would never have a conclusion. But we both also know which system has greater potential for gameplay.
Sure I was excited for games like Re Revelations and Legend of Zelda: OoT, MGS3D
But I had no game to come home with it. It had a really bad launch line up compared to the Vita, had to wait 2 months before I even got a game for it (OoT)
Because I was an early adopter, bought it for 249.99, half the promised features are not even included, no proper video player, no proper browsing, no 3d recording. AND NOW... THEY HAVE A PERIPHERAL FOR A SECOND SLIDEPAD AND A RACING WHEEL? WTF?
Those Ar cards can keep a man entertained for so long....
And to add insult to injury, Nintendo drops the price by 80 bucks and offer me games I own physically for the GBA and games I have on virtual console.
And then I lost the damn thing...
Should have waited for a Vita, now I am tapped for cash, and now have to play the waiting game, hoping the vita has a price drop.
Hell the thing had a way better launch than the 3DS (games wise). I blame the sales because Nintendo seems like they are dicking the Vita as much as possible in order for it to lose sales.
JAPAN LAUNCH: Release Monster Hunter 3ds
US Early LAUNCH: Release RE revelations and MGS3D
US LAUNCH: Reggie says that their will be big nintendo news on the same day.
God, last time I am buying a handheld at launch.. Nintendo has been the company that has hurt me the most, simply because they defined my childhood.
It had ups and downs, but I eventually moved away from my wii for a Ps3 and a decent gaming PC.
But I will most likely buy a WiiU for a new Smash Bros, just like why I bought a Wii.
GOD DAMMIT NINTENDO... YOU OWN MY CHILDHOOD!
@robot
Sure graphics don't mean anything for gameplay...
BUT A SECOND ANALOG STICK DOES!
Controllers are the big ones, still costing $50+
How much does 32 GB save anyway? How big are VITA games?
Controllers are a HUGE dam problem, they haven't gone down a dam dollar since day one. IF you plan on having a vita for a long time after you buy it,(and who doesn't) 4GB and 8GB are useless
Rewind your brains back to when vita was first announced we were saying £300 -£400 minimum.
My point is yeah you have to pay £40+ for a decent card but overall its still way cheaper than we all originally thought.
A memory card is mostly a ONE-time purchase. You make it sound as if you have to keep buying them.
____
@ -Alpha
Games are between 1GB, 2GB or 3.xGB. Download-only games tend to be smaller than 1GB.
I just depends on what you're buying.
____
@ Derekvinyard13
4GB and 8GB cards are not useless.
If you're planning downloading all your games, then sure go for the 16 or 32.
But a 4 and 8GB card is more than good enough for game saves, apps, music, etc.
i got a 16gb card, loaded with games+demos+MP4 movies. still got available Gigs.
but 8gb is the sweet spot between cost and space IMOO, a comfortable number of games.
4gb will give you 2-4 games+saves, works if you are on a tight budget.
32gb is overkill
@NeoTribe
4g is enough for saves and digital games, just keep the non active games in your PC or PS3, and just buy the physical copies of big games.
4g is just 20$ or free with bundles.
You really have to spend some good time with to understand.
And like Snookie, I haven't touched my consoles since having it. I truly "Never Stop Playing" now that I have my Vita. Game in bed, game on the couch, game on the shitter - really, I can get 2 minutes of gaming in if I want, or play for 4 hours until the battery drains.
It's really THAT good.
But yeah, honestly I can't seem to stop playing on it... I've been tearing up Hot Shots, Stardust, Escape Plan, and Dissidia Duodecim. This thing is honestly making me lose sleep...
Eh... don't want to burst your bubble, but that's not gonna happen, it has problems in the land of handheld gaming and outside Japan, handhelds are not as popular as home consoles, so I don't see Vita being as big as PS2, heck probably will never reach the sales of the PSP...
The Vita has already proven itself to be an incredible system with an incredible library. I don't regret it the LEAST bit! My 3DS was a different story... :/
Whether the Vita (or 3DS, for that matter) are decent gaming platforms of overpriced paperweights is not something anyone can know now, and we won't know for a few years. The fact that both Sony and Nintendo have made several... questionable choices with their latest handheld doesn't exactly bode well, nor does the continued strength of last generation handhelds.
Sure, both the PSP and PS3 managed to turn things around after a while... but the Gamecube and Xbox were in much the same position, and neither one made much of a dent, so the Vita's future is still very much in the air.
I guess I went off on a bit of a tirade. Sorry about that. What I mean to say is that if you call yourself a gamer, you cannot judge a gaming device on its hardware, you can only judge it by its software.
I really like the psv but i do think Sony need to stop putting such high prices on there products if they want them to sell as well as Nintendo and Microsoft's consoles as at this moment in time people want the cheaper products that do the same as the expensive ones this is part of the reason why Sony have lost out in the tv and console market.
Im not sure how well the psv is selling now it is out for the rest of the world but here in the uk i have not seen any sold out signs yet for the psv like i did with the 3ds so sony may need to look at doing something with the price of the psv maybe a memory card and game bundle but its still early in its life yet lest wait until another 6 months have passed and then well will see if the psv is about to be a flop or success.
Never has. Never will.
If having the best tech meant anything, a PS3 game would be the highest rated game this gen - but guess what?
The highest rated game is Super Mario Galaxy on the Wii - the weakest console of the three.
http://www.gamerankings.com...
Similarly, on Metacritic, the 3DS has 3 games rated 90% or higher, while the highest rated Vita game scored 88%.
Before you mark me down, see for yourself.
http://www.metacritic.com/b...
http://www.metacritic.com/b...
The Vita might be the best technologically, but the 3DS has the best games.
That's not my opinion, that's the opinion of hardened, experienced game critics.
Yeah it had a great meta average but did it in game of the year? Did it beat COD in sales? The answer simply put is no. Reviewers may give it a good rating but their rating is solely opinion which is no better then mine or yours. Other then that score there are no other indicators sales wise or by GOTY that indicates Super Mario Galaxy is as great as the reviewers say.
Lets say COD, Halo, and GT5 all had a meta average of 7 but they still sold the way they did. Do you think that your average gamer is going to care about a score? Heck no. And the fact that those games are still some of the most overplayed games and the wii only serves as a coster now-a-days....... Yeah........
I have Katamari, Uncharted, Wipeout, and Mod Nation Racers on my Vita.
I'll be getting MLB 12: The Show, Little Big Planet, Gravity Rush, and Ninja Gaiden: Sigma in the coming months.
Do you mean to tell me that the 3DS has games on-par with the Vita's lineup?
I mean, Mario is fun. Really. It is. So is Zelda. But...haven't we already done all this like twenty times before?
The 3DS has been out for almost a year. The Vita has been out for a week. You mean to tell me that the 3DS's lineup is just now coming into order while the Vita already has like six or seven games worth a full price purchase?!?
You're kidding me, right? Metacritic or not...I'll take a FULL BLOWN Uncharted game, The Show that matches the PS3 version almost feature for feature, or the best Wipeout game ever made over a new Mario any day...
The first Xbox had lots of potential vs PS2, and it still wasnt a huge success.
However im sure the Vita will turn it's potential into success if that hasn't already happened.
I mean why doesn't he grow a brain and follow whats on the PS Vita and whats coming up before he decides to buy one.
Also his last bit where he brings up the 3DS and says they don't compare and the nice picture of the dude holding a PSP with a T shirt that has a NES controller on it which I assume is the dude writing that article just sounds like a worried 3DS fanboy trying to do his part for Nintendo after hearing the Vita had a sucessful western launch. Its these reasons I hate fanboys and website run by fanboys
Let me get this straight. An industry professional comes out and explains the issues with piracy for third-parties, someone who has made games for the device and knows about sales versus other factors, and I'm supposed to take a blogger's word over his about how piracy affects sales? Can't I just look at the horribly low attach rate for the PSP in the first place to learn that it's already an issue as well as the ton of sites out there that walk you through and provide you files for pirating PSP games?
"When trying to rebrand the handheld with a new color, Sony posted an ad in the Netherlands that depicted a white person submitting a black person. “PSP White is coming,” was placed next to the artful photo of what would become target of racist protest."
http://www.joystiq.com/2006...
Very informative article - you should all read it before you comment.
Related image(s)
It was an "artsy" advertisement that showed a new psp color would be available. It suggests NOTHING about darker skinned people, unless you're trying too hard.
This is a prime example of a society that has touch with reality in its witch hunt for discrimination.
Chink is a racial slang for Chinese but the headline was really trying to say Kink and got things mixed up (which usually is the case) but even though it was just a mistake and was never intended to be anything racist, someone got fired for it.
Now I agree that racist and racism is full of sh!t but sometimes there are things that does not truly portray this, we just interpret it as such because we are too hell bent on being politically correct and that has to stop too.
And I'm Chinese living in the Philippines. So I know what being in a minority and racism is all about.
---
As for the article, there was one point that was lacking in the "There are no PSP games - blame piracy" section. When the author said the DS had the same amount of piracy but still sold more games.
That's because you have a demographic that is not tech savvy (kids, grandparents) meaning they either don't know about piracy or even if they do, they don't know how to.
The PSP demographic on the other hand are tech savvy gamers. (Tweeners and Teens).
Do we see a Black women holding a white man like that? Then advertising a black PSP?
Although I dont find this offensive myself other people will and it SHOULD NEVER have been used. It's an absolutely ridiculous advertising showing there was NO brains behind that what so ever. But as you mentioned it is many years ago and I haven't seen any Sony advertisement like it.
Wow, who gives a F#@k, every company had done something stupid marketing their product. Just because they use a white and black person doesn't mean it is racist. Maybe if the black person was in rags and picking cotton I could understand. This looks like a failed attempt at art.
THe fact this fool proposes that Sony shafted owners by not supporting the PSP is factually incorrect when even in 2011, they dedicated time to it during their E3 press conference as they have done every year since its release.
And, Yeah I saw that ad campaign fiasco way back when and again, being black myself, I couldn't give two sh*ts. This is my opinion, just like the article has its. Deal with it.
Do you need a history lesson? O_o
That image depicts something negative, and I'm sure any minority person (besides yourself, apparently) would agree with me.
It's true though - each gaming company was either quoted saying something foolish, or did something that was a total head scratcher (Satoru Iwata:"Gamers don't want to play games online.").
Its a damn picture, thats all, not even remotely racist in my opinion and there are other pics below in Titanz linked article that prove that. People want it to be racism and are excited to be "fighting for equality' but in reality its more ego and self elevation than a real issue(in these cases).
Focus on real racism and blatant human abuse based on skin color, rather than nitpicking every picture and blowing it out of proportion(just like they did with RE5).
Morgan Freeman said it best, if you want to stop racism, then stop talking about it. Making the distinction and pointing on every possible thing that's different or bothers you just keeps the idea alive.
http://www.joystiq.com/medi...
http://www.joystiq.com/medi...
Again, from your own link... so, basically, blown out of proportion. The ad is a little misguided, but it's not just as simple as that line would have you believe. In fact, the most ignorant thing about it is that people assume a white person and black person fighting it must be over race.
Just like certain people (still to this day) actually say/believe the PS3 "only has 256MB's of ram" ~ http://n4g.com/news/944943/...
And when you prove them wrong with pure confirm-able FACTS they STILL won't adjust what they said/believe to be "correct" and informed properly.
Pirate, it's just a waste of time when it comes to "certain types of gamers" here on N4G (let alone in the media). They don't want to hear it, let alone have an open enough mind enough to even contemplate what is right over what is wrong.
Okay. So in your defense you say that you've supported the PSP platform by owning a PSP and some games. I understand that, but honestly when you say that Sony has "shafted" us all. What do you mean?
Because the way I see it, and probably any other avid gamer is that they in fact stood by their system until the very end. If you think about it Sony could have pulled a Sega, and went the way of the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast. Remember those consoles the Dreamcast was so far ahead of its time that it caused Sega to stop making hardware.
What happened to us gamers who had a huge library of Dreamcast games, and Payed to play Phantasy Star Online, or Quake 3, or Unreal Tournament. We all got shafted sir.
So to clarify I would not have reported your article if it wasn't so misleading because if you ask me, a company that stands by their product until the end is a company that is trying to support its community of gamers even if the numbers aren't where they wanted them to be.
So then, if you can explain to me how we have become shafted in anyway by Sony, I will cancel my report and approve this opinion piece. Thanks
Some bonus points if you will
"Finally, PC gaming has been dead for longer than I’ve been getting laid. And guess what? Business has never been so good"
-Exactly how has PC gaming been dead? I'm confused by this.
Also you go on about how your PSP didn't play games for about a year and you used it for music.
-This is funny as you are painting exactly the type of article I've called it out to be, as an opinion piece, from a guy who calls himself a game critic you fail to realize the faults of others in the same category (3DS). It's been a year almost and finally the 3DS that I own is getting dusted off with the likes of Mario Kart, Super Mario Land 3D, Resident Evil: Revelations, and Metal Gear Solid 3D.
I say we don't need any more articles like this getting a spotlight because, it is getting really old. It's almost like some of you guys writing these completely one sides and bias articles are doing it for the hits on your website. It is simple really the fundamentals of writing something that will hold no interest in a gamers mind, and something that will favor one side over the other. That is the perfect way to get attention to your article and yourself.
If I wrote an opinion piece on how long my 3DS hasn't been played and titled it "3DS makes a better paperweight than a handheld almost one year in" I can promise you I'd get noticed.
Yes, I've realized my comment has gotten very long. I just wish would-be "Game Critics" would stop comparing this to that and actually write unbiased articles from time to time.
Really the gaming community would become a better place.
The Dreamcast was originally referenced in the piracy argument, but cut due to space. This is an equally valid opinion as far as I'm concerned. I don't view the Dreamcast as a failure, but some could rightfully feel shafted by the sudden death of SEGA's manufacturing plans. I'm much more disappointed by the Game Gear, which did succeed (in part) at the time, due to heavy support. "Lead by example" could be stated, though that was easier for SEGA at the time than for Sony now.
If I really need to give a concrete opinion on the PSP, I'd say I'm 'content' overall. Though I don't like to make black or white stances on any opinion articles, as there's always more sides to a story.
Edit: I'll break this paragraph in order to edit in your claims of the article being 'one sided' or biased, even though it actually has a claim not to compare the 3DS and does favor support for the PS Vita. The closing argument couldn't be clearer on the fact. I'm also the first to have clicked agree to the first comment here. Please, do be content with the Vita as it looks awesome. It doesn't hurt learning from past mistakes though. Also, the PC gaming is obviously a quip, explained the line after the context pull there. The rest of the below comment was what was there before the edit.
The PSP had its moments, has some memorable games and at the coming end of the cycle finally has a library I'm happy with. But the promises were much greater than an eventual contentment. Though the article serves more of a reminder not to make the same/similar mistakes with the PS Vita. A form of 'don't let history repeat itself' thing, if that makes sense.
How has Sony shaved US as gamers?
This whole time my main issue with your article is the headline (other reasons as well but I can look past them as it is an opinion piece), you seem like an intelligent person judging by the structure of your article. You are literally saying Sony did something to it's community that it did not.
Opinion piece of not it seems like you titled it this way to get attention on your article.
Maybe if you titled it "I won't be shafted again by Sony with the Vita", then I'd understand and would read it as an opinion piece, but the way you have it set up now it just seems like pure trolling.
So I'll say it again to people who disagree with my report.
There are literally pages upon pages of this same type of article comparing the PSP to the PS Vita, and it's just getting old. N4G can do better than this. Write something that is worth reading, write something that even if it makes fans of said content angry, they still can't argue your point. Thats what good journalism is, something you read and it sticks with you and makes you think about it.
Not this kind of stuff where you literally read it and realize there was 100 other things you could have done with your time besides read another article about the potential failure of the Vita because of the PSP.
Here is something not one of you fanboys can argue.
-Even if the Vita is a failure or whatever or doesn't succeed to your standards. Remember that Sony will continue to support its device and do what it takes to make it successful enough. They will not abandon it and move on. They will not "shaft" you
What considers a console a failure anyway? Is it because its not doing better than its competitor, because a failure to me would be one of my beloved systems of all time the Sega Dreamcast.
In he modern world when a company supports it's products we should not be trying to drag it's name though the mud with headlines but supporting them.
I suggest maybe you change your headline, mainly because it does not relate to the content of your article, like many so called articles approved for this site.
Sony truly let the ball drop on the PSP. Just not enough games released on the system.
Sony! You bad track record! (sarcarm)
What annoys me is the constant comparison and prediction of failure referencing to the last system. That seems to happen a lot especially on Sony's side. The PS3's mistakes are expected to translate to the next system.The VITA is expected to go down the same way the PSP did. Also Nintendo and Microsoft are already being thought to win next gen before they even reveal their systems.Like I have said several times if I went with what happened last time then I would have expected the Wii to bomb big time and the next gen Xbox to set the house on fire the moment you plug it in.
What is the stupid trend of thinking a system will die or win before we even see the results? The PS4 could crush the competition for all we know. It took a single gen for Sony to almost pile drive Nintendo and Sega out of existence and a single gen for Nintendo to take it all back.Why do people keep referencing back to the PSP?
If I wrote a piece constantly poking at Nintendo and Microsoft's failures and mistakes it would be marked as trolling but it's okay to keep prodding at the PSP as if it was the worst idea in history and people forgetting the shaft other companies have given them by prematurely shutting down their consoles after I went through so so much trouble to buy them. I am still waiting for the apology from Nintendo for buying their N64 and Gamecube and getting 'the shaft'
What I'm finding out is the reality is a lot of the tech and financial sites out there are very much run by MS evangelists, MS has worked on these people for many years. Their influence is spewing over into videogames sites, who are sourcing tech and financial blogs (remember gamespot is owned by cnet). While many sites do remain impartial, the influence from other sites does have it's effect on the general consensus - which in turn effects the smaller sites.
I know a lot of people like to think it's just sensationalist headlining for hits, which does happen - but the sources of these stories aren't usually the site with the sensationalist headline.
I bought a 3DS preowned from Gamestop...beat RE:R before my 7 day return period and got my money back.
No, 3 days does not equal a week.
But when you release a product in the middle of the week you get only half the days of sales.
Sounds like you're the one that needs to go back to kindergarten.
Try thinking for you.
PS Vita.
oh yeah..um.. and the vita is the best think ever that happen to handheld gaming.. so stop whining buy one and enjoy it!
Waited for my xbox 360...ps3....loved playing the old games....finished uncharted 2 last night.
we just tend to deny it
Racism goes beyond just bias or a vague belief in the most common stereotypes. It becomes a belief that some races are superior, or that others are inferior.
There is also a point where people imply racism exists even when it doesn't. This can also be considered a form of racism.
I do agree though, that anyone who feels their colour makes them a better person than his fellow man is ignorant.
Humans are created equally.
Sorry for off topic
One problem, the price seems pretty high. Looks what happen with 3DS launch. Not to include the high price of the memory cards too. It is like when people were complaining about the expansive x360 HDD. You guys should complain about PS Vita memory storage too.
I do believe that the Vita is 'going' to be the hottest handheld system ever. However, @ this moment, there's not enough material for it. Similar to how the PS3 started out, it's going to take a little time for the system to take off. When I got my PS3 @ launch, for the 1st few months, I was saved by backwards compatibility.
I think that Sony is on the right track by trying to make some material work on the Vita, but again, we will grow to love it, in time.
For now, just let the system breathe.
Pros
1) OLED screen super vibrant and can be seen at all angles (big screen)
2) 2 analog sticks
3) Nice graphics
Cons
1) vita brand name does not chime imo
2) speakers are not loud enuff
3) needs better browser
Speakers - The speakers are perfect kuz if it gets louder you'll be b****in' about the battery life
Browser - That's no surprise even the newest androids can't perfect their browsers. Hopefully they'll fix it by time.
I very much like the opera browser on my android... they should allow you to download opera.
At least the thing had dual sticks to begin with. Who the fuck pays for an extra stick?