Devil May Cry 4: Side-by-side analysis reveals few differences

A couple weeks ago, we ran a preview of Devil May Cry 4 that mentioned offhandedly that the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of the game, based on our brief time with them, looked and played identically. Unsurprisingly, this prompted a few readers to crawl slowly out of the woodwork, chanting in arcane rhythms about "framerate" and "processing power" and "memory" and generally calling bullshit on our assertion.

[UnblessedSoul]

Agreed the ps3 is the superior version, the xbots are just confused they will get help soon enough by a doctor

[TANOD]

so GR comparisons should have to be approved

Just because GR says that PS3 version looks a tad better doesnt mean that it wouldnt have to be approved at N4G

[n_n]

why does this even matter... just get it for your platform and enjoy the dam game already...

[Mikey_Gee]

.. no, I think you are confused. That would mean the superior version is HEAD AND SHOULDER better than the competition. It is been said over and over and over ... the difference is TEENY TINY "AT BEST" or as the video creators would say .. "barely noticeable"

So from that, it is easy to see "YOU" are the "Confused" individual.

Get over yourself you fanboy.

[mikeslemonade]

I think it's safe to say that DMC4 doesn't push either system. The reason there's better textures is because it's less compressed on PS3. This game is 720p, the enviroments aren't that large, the graphics are better than NG2, but that's not saying much. The earlier levels are confined maybe in the later levels the 360 will chug a little because in Burnout if you boost through a straight away it will chug.

[Slayer OP]

I am putting a stop to this comparison crap. they are both the same. accept it.

[TANOD]

Then why not GR comparisons

GR is a bigger gaming website than GT and is also more reliable

Unlike GT which doesnt turn on FULL RANGE RGB mode on PS3 while doing comparisons

[BLUR111]

i dont care what system has what , this game is going to be amazing cant wait!!!!

[pwnsause]

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[TANOD]

two BOTS after the news since it SAYS that X360 version is a TAD inferior

WHAT A SHAME that these people are REPORTING COMPARISONS done by one of the biggest gaming websites ---Games Radar

@POG

shut up .

You will be reported for REPORTING an ARTICLE BY GAMESRADAR

shut up u POG

IT is not JUST AN OPINION BUT A VALID COMPARISON DONE BY ONE OF THE BIGGEST FAMING WEBSITES

If you REPORT THE STORY then YOU WILL BE REPORTED TO THE ADMIN

@super saiyyan

RSX is also more powerful than XENOS (an r420 based card)

RSX has access to XDR at 3.2ghz which makes a huge difference

X360 cant even output 1080p NATIVELY

PS3 has 23 1080p NATIVE games

eg RR7 and NGS ran at full NATIVE HD @1080p @ 60FPS ----something the x360 will never be able to achieve .

UNCHARTED murders all X360 games including the upcoming ones in terms of Graphics and AI

You would need 10 XENON to implement AI algorithms of UNCHARTED on X360

[pwnsause]

I approved it to see the reaction that you had just now! HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

[Mikey_Gee]

Um, you may want to research that.

I am not trying to sound like a 360 fanboy, but in reality I will have my PS3 on the 25th.

I just hate when fanboys (from both camps) talk from their aZZ just to try to crap on the other. Get your facts straight or refrain from posting.

[power of Green]

The the footage is too blocky the charactors cape is made up of blocks for crying out loud. lol.

We don't know what a Sony fanboy will try so we must believe the first video that was clearly showing us how it really was. No one needs to see some block bullshit footage with a fanboy opinion attached.

EDIT

HERE IS SOME PICS FROM THE ORIGINAL VIDEO, #8 IS CORRECT THE PS3 COULD HAVE BEEN HOLDING BACK THE 360 VERSION SO THE DEVS COULD MATCH BOTH VERSIONS TO MAKE SONY FANBOYS HAPPY

[Mikey_Gee]

His red scaft in particular. And AA on the top edge of the barrel of his gun. Details on the buttons on his coat.

[brooklyn127]

1up.com says the ps3 version looks and plays better also.plus less loading time and full 5.1pcm surround sound beat that,and no screen tearing like the xbox360 version.

[TANOD]

GR cant make X360 version of DMC 4 look better when it simply doesnt look as good as PS3 version.

GT's video showed the same thing too

didnt it

all VIDEOS would reveal the same things POG

TRUTH CANNOT BE HIDDEN

can it?

[SuperSaiyan4]

If its not the washed out colours its definently the amazing traite the PS games and the PS3 games have...Foggyness...The 2 versions have different lighting methods it seems however based on the indoor bit on the video its clear the 360 version stands out to be better looking without the foggyness that plagues PS games in general.

Also I want to ask all the PS fanbabies the question:

How can PS3 games ever look better than the 360 when:

1)The 360 GPU is 1yr ahead in technology over the PS3 GPU

&

2)The 360 has 480mb of available system memory when the PS3 only has 416mb.

So the 360 has a more advanced GPU and more memory available so theoritcally the next wave of games the 360 versions will ALWAYS look better.

Its the same with the PC there is no way in hell an older graphics card and less memory = better graphics than the latest tech.

Get over it PS fanbabies the Xbox 360 IS the ultimate gaming system, I own all 3 machines so I aint no fanboy, its fact live with it or sacrifice yourselves for Sony cos I know you probably will if they asked you.

[pwnsause]

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[Milkman541]

Well the way I look at it, multi-plat games pretty much look the same so who cares...all that matters is how exclusive titles look and from what I've seen...Bioshock, Gears of War...Uncharted, GT5...that both systems have decent power and nothing is gonna be out of control way better on any system....

[Barreldragon00]

So they said that the PS3 looks just a little bit better then the 360 and you get so upset that you have to pull that fanboy crap out of your ass.

[ravenguard88]

people would stop talking about technical specs. Now, if Power of Green's pics are untouched from the video, it's clear to me that the 360 atleast has better normal mapping, that's about all I can see. From the video, I saw absolutely no difference.

Can we stop arguing about the hardware? Honestly, when will you people realize how incredibly close the hardware is. You have to understand that the final hardware (talking CPU, GPU, MEMORY) didn't change a bit since the launch of the 360. The Sony numbers lie, and the PS3 can and does not achieve 2 Teraflops of performance. They claim the RSX achieves 1.5+ teraflops, about 3 times the performance of the high-end PC cards of this generation, and it is older technology than the 360's GPU. The 360 is still no better, if anything it has an edge in more memory due to the fact that it's operating system uses a clean 32mb. If a game was built from the ground up for both systems, it is likely the quality would be very similar and the main differences would be due to the difference in hardware, simple things like one looks slightly brighter, or one looks crisper. These are common differences in graphical hardware especially common at the time of the PS3/360 prototyping.

[crank]

Oh, is it my turn?

Yeah, SS4: you are a ***king idiot. Kill your self.

[MK_Red]

What's the point? This is a rather bad comparison with terrible quality. What was GamesRadar thinking? They say they used 720p for both to compared but put the a 240p or something version for us to see. How is this a side-by-side analysis?

[sloth4urluv]

wtf are you n00bs arguing about, they look the same, they looked the same on the other video, if they were not side by side you could not tell the difference.

Why dont you guys go back to counting the pubes and your nuts, and measuring the dimensions of your pixels to check for uniformity.

[ravenguard88]

He's got a point guys :P

[socsca]

But he's right...

[Winters89]

If the The 360 GPU is 1yr ahead in technology over the PS3 GPU, Then why are we seeing identical looking games?.

[shmee]

GARPHICALLY as well as in GAMEPLAY

PS3 can natively output 1080P . I have yet to see that on x360 . Ofcourse i would be happy even if x360 can manage that 30fps

[Mikey_Gee]

if you did your comments would be a bit less bias.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

the end product will be near identical, i guarantee it

i love capcom, they won't let anyone down.

[vloeistof]

@ ss4 xbox360 ultimate game system lmao

[Darkiewonder]

Complete, retail version please. thanks.

[wolfgang]

MS PR people VS Sony PR people.

Both Sony and MS hire people to pretend to be gamers and post on various sites like this one. Gamers don't have hours to waste trying to figure a way COD4, DMC, Skate or Barbie goes to Vegas 12 could look better on their console. They are spending way too much time playing games.

So what if COD4 look better on your 360 ? I still have bigger pen|s then you.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

I see Droids are slapping on the "Desperation cologne" again.

[harv052]

Whether the comparison is the same for the PS3 and the XBOX 360, both parties (with their superduper laser-eagle enhanced vision) will always say their version is the best. This unfortunately, will never change...

[P4KY B]

that it takes a sh!t load of bullets to kill something.

[Mikey_Gee]

I am glad I was not the only one thinking that ....

LOL

[The Karate Kid]

360 Has Achievements!!!!!!!

360 version Has Voice Chat!!!!!!!!

360 Version Has Custom Sound Tracks!!!!!!!!!

360 Version Has Temporary Rumble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS3 Version Has The Original Controller!

PS3 Version Has Slightly Better Textures and Smoother Frame Rate!

PS3 Version Is The Lead Version Of The Game!

I am PRO-PS3 and ANTI Microsoft, but Sony really needs to hurry up with Playstation home and there on trophy system. I am tired of 360 owners having there advantages with every game.

[Meus Renaissance]

The Voice Chat and Custom Soundtracks are not related to the games but an OS issue with Sony and their firmware updates.

[gunnerforlife]

a dont treally give a crap if the 360 version was better id still pick the ps3 version over it

[JasonX43]

Is this what HD has reduced gamers to? Arguing over the slightest difference in pixels and framerates? Capcom is one of the best third party devs in the world and they don't do crappy ports and half ass jobs like Valve handing off The Orange Box to EA for the PS3 version! Devil May Cry 4 is going to be a classic whether you play it on PS3, 360, PC, NeoGeo, Dreamcast, or even TurboGrafix 16! Grow up, people!

[Devr]

I agree. These graphics comparisons are going WAY too far.

[PirateThom]

All you fanboys are idiots.

For one moment, imagine that both consoles are capable of producing stunning visuals and games and maybe actually play them instead of complaining about minor difference you won't even notice on the intertubes.

Edit: Anyone who disagreed with this isn't a gamer, they're a corporate shill who would rather plege their love to a faceless company that hates them and loves their money rather than play games.

[tk]

Uncharted looks the best game so far in my opinion... but has nothing to do with DMC comparisons.

It seems to look virtually the same on both consoles. I don't need DMC to look better than the XB360 version to play it and enjoy it. Neither would I cry myself to sleep if it looked slightly inferior to the XB360 version.

Bottom line is - both looks great. Hopefully the game will play great. Thanks to the devs for giving both platforms a good game. Fanboys - reviewers with money in the pocket or ulterior motives - go away.

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

X360 controller sucks for DMC as it sucks for all games except Racing.

and no PS3 pad sucks for FPS too as much as X360 pad.
All pads suck for FPS. good thing PS3 has alteritave controllers already which emulate mouse and they work super good.

[Mikey_Gee]

way back since the Atari 2600, and really love the layout of the 360 controller. Thumbsticks in particular. I HATED THE ORGINAL XBOX controllers.

I am already looking for an adapter for the 360 controller so I will be able to use it on my PS3

****** @ comment 28 *****
Dude, you are so right. props for you and bubbles

[NikV3]

saying the ps3 version looks slightly better and more kids crying about it. does it really matter, just wait for it to come out, play it and enjoy it. is it really that hard. how can people even argue the power of the ps3 after a DEMO of GT5 looks years beyond anything on the 360. stop crying about all this stuff and just go enjoy your games.

[gnothe1]

last gen it was NEVER about the graphics it was about the games, now all of the sudden the sony fans were told their system can produce BETTER graphics now it's all about graphics!! both systems do a few things better than the other. PS3 lighting, 360 textures but their 99% equal. so why do we have this crap EVERYDAY!! I have both systems an I hardly play my PS3 because the 360 has the majority of the GAMES i wanna play, so why cant we just play the system we have an enjoy it without all this fanboy bickering!!

[DJ]

Actually, that's been every generation. Physics, sound, and animation have their time in the spotlight too, as PS2 showed.

[icechai]

yeah, graphics and animation and art direction. Look at how they promoted Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, God of War. Sure they were great games, but people took notice at first because of the superficial aspects, just like DMC. Also Xbox owners went bananas toting Ninja Gaiden, its just that last gen there were less multi-plat big games to compare.

[FPS nut]

Cry baby fans like this. Some PS3 fans have a real physiological problem about not being in 1st anymore. Some of you were born into the Playstation brand and refuse to go outside of it. Nintendo and Xbox fans come from past consoles or PC and are ok with trying other things. Guess what harcore PS3 fans you're not in 1st anymore, Nintendo is and Xbox is 2nd again. GET OVER IT!

[fopums]

why does it embaress you too own a PS3? fanboys are stupid no matter what console they own and shouldnt effect how you feel about it.

edit: every kind of fanboy wants to makes petitions, I just dont think the SONY fanboys are worse then the rest, granted the bad press and negetivity aimed at PS3 could be reason for its supporters sounding whiny more often, but thats no better or worse then sounding plain stupid or irrational.

http://boards.ign.com/final...

http://www.gonintendo.com/?...

[FPS nut]

It's the crying fans and you have to admit Xbox and Nintendo don't have whiny fans as much as PS3 does. Remember the petition signing of this game and look at this example here. It doesnt make you wan't to slap fellow PS3 owners in the head and knock some of they whinyness out? I see two kinds of fanboys, fans which are the same as a football or sports fan and morons that are just, well there is somthing wrong with them upstairs. Know what I mean? Fans I can deal with and enjoy their arguments and smack talk, it's the ones that will say stuff like the PS3 has a higher attach rate or that the Xbox doesnt have a high failure rate and try and convince people that it's true.

[achira]

haha, ps3 version is better. xbots so upset, lol, idiots. you bought the wrong machine.

[gnothe1]

buddy you have been STUPID since you been on this site, you were one on the main ones talking about how the PS3 was gonna destroy the 360 when it launched which hasnt happened by the way!! the PS3 is a good system but its just not what sony said it would be. I got to give sony credit, they know how to prey on the minds of the weak!! good thing your not little girls an sony was a pedophile, there would be sore asses everywhere!! you guys are just so gullible!! you can tell anybody with the capacity to think for themselves can see both sony an MS for what they are, huge companies that only want our money an thats it!! they both are full of lies but sony is just lie more!!

[Tone]

A psychologist could write a paper about you fanboys, am amazed infact that someone has not done so already.

They would probably come to the conclusion that fanboyism is similar to being in a cult or something... a lot of you certainly act like you are brainwashed by (insert brand) Product.

Also.. it seems a lot of you seem to have the amazing ability to be able to know more than the developers whom know the game inside and out.. i am well impressed!!

End of the day... who gives a flying toss what game looks slightly better or worse! as long as the game plays the same, its all good!! :D

Now come on guys.. get back to reality eh... your making an ass of yourself... and crap like that does not impress the ladies lol

[BigKev45]

The PS3 version will be washed out.

[aceman7]

Just because I put "Fact" at the end of my sentence it means it's true.

Why doesn't Uncharted look washed out?
Why doesn't CoD4 look washed out?
Why doesn't UT3 look washed out?
Why are you such a fanboy?

[yeh]

It's quite clear that the ultimate next generation console, Playstation 3's version is superior. With it's award winning, high profile Blu-ray drive and its' built in HDD as standard. Leading developement on the true next generation console to give gamers the graphics that they deserve. Developing on any other platform would result in a sub-par game with choppy framerates on Microsoft's Xbox 360 console (currently under multiple lawsuits). As a Playstation fan, I am happy that all gamers get to enjoy this game to the fullest due to it being built on the ultimately amazing Playstation 3 platform.

[Bill]

Sony is of course going to be a better overall experience. Devi May Cry will be the first of many experiences better done on the PS3.

[NanoGeekTech]

I believe they will be pretty much the same...The PS3 version may run smoother because I believe its the lead platform.....

One issue comes into play...DMC4 for 360 will have achievement points....What will the PS3 have? will it have Home? Would I have to wait till fall 2008 to be part of it?...

--I may purchase the 360 DMC4 just because of the Achievement points...especially when they are pretty much the same..

--But I will have to with till it comes out an see...which one deserves my $59.99 plus tax.................

Damn it feels good to be a gamer...............can't wait till 08

[jackdoe]

PS3 version has no loading times because of an installation on the harddrive. 360 does not feature this option.

[jctoyou]

oh look i will buy that game for 360 cause of achievement points!get a life only a 12yr old cares for those things

[scrillakiller]

who givesa hoot u idiots.just buy the damn game and play it u morons.stop pulling out magnifying glasses to eyeball pixels u jerkoffs.this site is really pissing me off.i like ps3 better but so what.stop being fanboys and just play what u like and shut up.aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Raptors]

PS owners should be mad, not bragging. We were all promised a system that was gonna blow everything out of the water and so far it hasn't happened. Don't get me wrong, there's been some pretty PS games however it is not what was promised.

[devilhunterx]

fanbots got pwned!

[xg-ei8ht]

POG - you sir are an idiot!

Now onto other matters, this game is supposed to look exactly the same on both systems, the same way gta will look.

A few of the cross platform games may look slightly better on one system due to af or shadows,darks and lights etc. But companys want them to look the same.

I'm gonna say one more thing.

The 360 gpu is not superior to the rsx in any shape or form, Please understand this. You cannot fit x4aa on the edram at 720p.

The gpu is decent, but the rsx provides more pixel shading power. This is even evident in cod3, and was told by the makers themselves.

The trouble with gametrailers, they did not use full rgb, which is comical at best. Go back and watch cod3 comparison and see how bright and washed out everything is. If its still there,lol.

Granted the compression on this vid is awful and is too small to make judgements.

So just enjoy the game, and what other games you have on the system you own.

[FPS nut]

Do you pull that stuff from you're stinky place?

[mintaro]

so what if one version looks better than the other, they essentially play the same, same story, same wicked kills no matter what console it's on.
so are you really gonna let some minor differences stop you from enjoyig this game? if there are any.

[Lumbo]

The content of the comments so far can be condensed to: Blablablaaa blabla bla bla!

And all that typing and stress wasted on such a boring game :S

[icechai]

this game really doesn't hold a candle in terms of graphics to the top games on either systems anyways, just look at the bland boxes and crates, ugh.

[coolclimate0]

but comes down to it... who cares it looks like a ps2 game too me anyway. We can all argue all we want but seriously. this is too ps3 fans... WE know which system can run better graphics, if it is built to our systems standards. Makes no difference give it a year when ff13 comes out, i noticed very few xbots making comments for that trailer. Think about and dont sport fanboys as A$$ holes. xbots and us can coexist. They have a right to enjoy there system as much as we have a right to enjoy ours... Given no one is changing minds on this comment list. Sport our sexy ps3 right, dont say stupid stuff. and to both sides... REALLY think before everyone types things every time someone on ps3 or xbox side says something false it just starts more flame.

(best friend is an Xbot, and we get along fine)

[crank]

both versions will be okay, okay, deal with the fact that most of you are idiots in reality and do us real gamers a favor and kill yourselves

simple, isn't it

the 360 has a lot to worry about 2008+

A LOT

[SuperSaiyan4]

The 360 has all the games, all the exclusives and the games are NOT delayed for several months either oh and has the best online service with in game custom music, voice chat, send and recieve messages whilst in a game or movie.

And sorry DMC4 looks better on the 360, end of.

No game will ever look better on the PS3 unless developers want to delay PS3 games for a year - look at GRAW on the PS3 version what was it? 6 months after the 360 version and only looked a tiny wheeny bit better? LMFAO.

LOL at the guy above about 360 worrying about 2008 a lot I call BS on that, infact its the 360 again that has the top exclusives for 2008 and more of them:

Fable 2
Ninja Gaiden 2
Too Human
Losy Odyssey
SplinterCell 4
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic: Elements
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom
Halo Wars

I have listed games that everyone has heard of yet there are a lot more that are coming out that I havent listed like:

Culdcept SAGA
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel
Spectral Force 3
Universe at War: Earth Assault
Command & Conquer 3: Kane's Wrath
Left 4 Dead
Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures
Postal III
Sabotage
APB
Banjo Kazooie 3
Commanders: Attack of the Genos
Dead Island
Demons of Mercy
Hydrophobia
Moble Ops: The One Year War
Omega Five
Operation Darkness
The Shadow of Aten
Warhammer: Battle March
Warhound
World in Conflict

There you go.

I think the PS3 has more to worry about imo.

[Wii60_FTW]

Here are two pics I screen-capped from the GT comparison and have been posting on various websites to shut all you dipshit sony droids up. Enjoy =]

"The higher-rez normal map detail on his red hoodie, not to mention cleaner all around on 360:

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http://img210.imageshack.us...
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And the red design on his shoulder and sharper detail all around, not to mention the insane amount of jaggiez on the PS3 gun and blade, nowhere to be found on the smooth 360 version:

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http://img152.imageshack.us...
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PS3 owners? That's gotta hurt."

[Matpan]

360 has nothing to wory about, it has it´s own deal of great games for 2008. It is good that the PS3 gets a nice deal of them too. So pick the roaster of your liking and stop whinning about which console will offer the best games.

As for the video... either the video is missing some frames or BOTH version have a crappy framerate. As for the graphics themself, they look pretty much the same.

[Nox587]

I do believe that its easy for a lot of people to get caught up in graphics of a game. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy playing a nice looking well detailed game. What should be more important however is how fun the game is. I would almost compare this to the motion picture industry. There are movies out there with amazing special effects, but they are still horrible movies. Both systems have a high potential, and both have there ups and downs. I find it incredibly difficult to say that one is "better" then another. I think while both are ultimately aimed at gamers, the ps3 seems to attract a "media-oriented" crowd. It's quite easy to set up a PS3 as an entertainment system in your living room with the blue-ray, built in wireless, blue-tooth keyboard and mouse support and some of its other media like capabilities.

The 360 doesn't have some of these media capabilities, but has an excellent online system. Granted this system costs money, but in my experience Live is superior to the PS online system... at least for the moment. The 360 seems to be a flat out "gaming system", which isn't 100 percent true, but its were it seems to shine a bit more.

It's also difficult to make the argument that the 360 has more titles. While this statement is certainly true, one has to remember that the 360 launched quite a deal earlier then the ps3. If you compare the system specs side by side, the ps3 is superior. It will certainly benchmark higher, and most games will run at higher fps.

My final point is to say that dev. teams have timelines and budgets. When you are creating a product that is cross platform this makes balancing the quality of the product and the time/budget a difficult task. While there are different strategies to taking advantage of a more powerful platform, MOST of these titles will certainly look very similar. One example of this being incorrect is when a "port" or "re-implementation" of render code is done at a different/later time for different platforms, take Gears of War or Unreal Tournament as a couple of examples.

To those that say its a waste of time to put this much energy into a comments board, I say open up your mind. Discussing these things proves you have passion for the subject. Read what others have to say and you just may learn something.

[shysun]

They said the PS3 version looks better, I'll leave it at that.

[Daz]

i put that right this is what they said.
The PS3 version seems to sport slightly darker blacks and slightly crisper textures, but otherwise it's indistinguishable from its 360 rival.

I be getting this game on ps3 but they look the same to me they must of used a magnifying to see the differences lol.

[felidae]

we all know that the ps3 is the superior system.

now, the difference is not that big, but soon ....

[The Preacher]

Just because you owned all 3 machine that doesn't mean you're not a fanboy, for me I only have PS3 and that is fine.

I tell it as I see, if the 360 on some game then that is fine, but for you no matter what the PS3 come out with you just attack it. I'm pretty sure you don't appreciate sony but that is fine, no one really appreciate you either.

Peace

[hok_22]

AND THE PS3 VERSION LOOKS A LIL BETTER OVER 360

[hok_22]

AND THE PS3 VERSION LOOKS A LIL BETTER OVER 360

[poeo]

what pathetic "first world problems".. kids arguing over which version of the _same_ videogame is the best.. USING MAGNIFLYING GLASSES.

scary stuff. oh well when you grow up you'll have plenty of time for REAL problems.

EDIT: OH AND PS3 IS THE SHIZZ. SCREW M$.

[TheXgamerLive]

The Gametrailers version which shows a much much better clearer and larger version of video than this shows a better Xbox 360 version, seeing the ps3 with less clear version and significant jaggies through it, and then this pathetic verison which isn't good at all and shows nothing clear at all on either and they wanna say the ps3 is better? I stopped video 6x and saw equal or clearer 360 version each time. HA HA HA !!! That's funny:) Not true at all, but funny:)) The ps3 will most always lag behind when on same game.

[THE TERMINATOR]

I would rather believe GamesRadar than your sorry Ass.

[NanoGeekTech]

When I have the option to consider something as mundane and minuscule as achievement points or no achievement points...I personally think I have it pretty good..I have the best of both worlds...

--@JCTOYOU>>>>> ;>>>maybe you may want to compare W2's with this 12yrs old.....

--I can afford to worry about achievement points...I have the privilege to have to ability to make the decision DMC4 for PS3 or DMC4 for my 360......