It used to be about getting the full 1000 gamerscore in a game. Now, gamerscore totals appear to have lost all sense of structure.
I never got the point of gamerscore. I prefer trophies - they seem more quantifiable - bronze, gold, silver, platinum. But that's just me.
i like trophies better too, but im happy i just broke past 60000 gamescore, still addictive getting those achievements!
Meh. I like getting them because they keep me motivated to play a game once I'm finished with it. But I don't think there needs to be structure to them. you buy a game and it comes with 1000, then you get 250's for each DLC... I don't think there is a problem with that at all... if an arcade game is worth 200, then why can't a DLC be worth 250?
I've always hated the trophies/achievements as a form as a competition, but as extra goals to shoot for, I've always loved them. So, achievement, trophy, medal, badges....whatever, I don't see a huge difference.
Nothing wrong with friendly competition and showing how far you've made it in a certain game. I'm just not the type to get games like, "Miley Cyrus Sing-along" for Platinums.
because I love trophies. before, I just finish most of my games once and many times didn't even bothered going for the sub missions and stuff because I just want to finish the games. now, not anymore and I feel like I got my money worth it with every single purchase.
@thats_just_prime: Calm down young padawan, your insecurity is showing. He explained why he likes trophies better in his comment and if you still can't understand what he means then it might be you who is a fangirl.
I dont even have a plat trophy yet...
I prefer achievements because they are in all 360 games, and are therefore more quantifiable than trophies. Now disagree with me, fanboys :)
i used to be a cheevo whore like some of you guys here, i have like 60k but as of like 2-3 years ago i had an epiphany while getting the seriously 2.0 on gears 2 where i finally realized that achievements were the most pointless waste of time ever. ever since then i don't even look at the achievement list or care if i get them. good riddance :D
@thats_just_prime Its not the act that is any different its the reward.Trophies are a real reward you might actually have one yourself.Points are not really a reward. Its true they are basically the same things but one is actually something we have used for a long time as a symbol of achievement,the other is just a number.
I like going for trophies and achievements also. Especially getting some of the harder ones. I only have one platinum so far, but am more happy about some of the ballacheingly hard silver trophies on wipeout. As for achievs I am on about 55k now - finished a lot of games, but they always seem to add more and more with DLC - which has stopped me from being such a pefectionist.
gamerscores and trophies don't add anything, first I cared but now I don't give a s***, every time I hit the trophy-list by accident I smash the circle button repeatedly and never sync I'd care more about that, if you get something more valuable than a list of what games you played a what tasks you did/didn't
Dark_king how are "Trophies are a real reward" ? Does sony make real trophies and ship them to you house ? No ? I know sony send you a check every time you unlock one right ? No ? Well at least they give you free downloads for them ? No. "one is actually something we have used for a long time as a symbol of achievement" Hate to break this to you but achievements came abou 2 and a half years before trophies "the other is just a number" Actually you get a pic and a number with achievements. Some achievements unlock game pic and stuff for your avatar. Plus MS has had contest when could win others like free games for your achievements
wow not the sharpest tool in the shed are you.Trophies themselves are a actually physical real thing that human beings have used as a symbol of accomplishment for countless centuries. Hunter didn't keep a score card they kept a trophy.Which could of been many number of things a claw, pelt or fang.Sonys trophies are digital but still quality as a trophy a number does not.
To be fair, trophies have a MUCH better structure to them. Gamerscore could mean getting as little as 5 points or as much as 100. Trophies mean bronze, silver, gold, and platinum.
the point of the gamerscore is the same as trophies, its there more or less for bragging rights. and yes the trophy system may be better now but thats becuase it came out after, its unlikely trophies would even be there without gamerscore so you should be thankful.
Captain Qwark hit the nail on the head. ArchangelMike's comment of "I never got the point of gamerscore. I prefer trophies" is like saying "I never got the point of a landline telephone. I prefer a cellphone."
i believe in xbox 360's earlier years, you got rewards for certain amount of gamerscore...so there was a point to them before, now it really is more just for bragging rights
I've got to admit that it feels good to get these little, virtual pats on the back every now and then but I never put much thought into these. I did with achievements at the start but quickly found when I started playing the game the way someone else wanted me to play it, the games really lost something. I can't stand the myriad of pointless, frustrating tasks that you often find with achievements/trophies - things that simply aren't fun to do. And being someone who hates to leave things undone, often achievements at first would leave me feeling like I hadn't played the game even after I finished because I didn't complete these often mind-numbing checklists because they often just weren't fun to do. I wouldn't miss them if they just disappeared, but that's never going to happen now.
Games that I really lovr, and which have high replayability, I aim for the platinum trophy, and have great fun getting that platinum. To me getting a trophy is more tangible than getting just 1000 points or whatever. I personally just find it more... quantifiable thana nebulous number like 54372
Nothing beats the original, trophies are just a cheap last minute copy.
Goldeneye on the Nintendo 64 rewarded players who completed goals with guns, cheats & special modes, while Spyro 2 on the original PlayStation 1 rewarded players who unlocked 'Skill Points' with extra lives. These accomplishments really created the foundation of PlayStation's Trophies and the Xbox 360's Achievements Gamerscore. So I don't think you really know what you are talking about. But what do I know? That's just an observation of the biased uninformed crap you speak usually.
@Oner Goldeneye had its own system, and so did every games with "achievements" before the 360. The big innovation of gamerscore was not that you got rewards for doing stuffs in game... it was that all games used the same system, and that it was public, and easy to compare with others, which proved to be really popular... and that's why steam, sony, battle.net... copied it.
That's not the point. To say trophies are "a cheap last minute copy" is synonymous with saying the 360 is just "a cheap last minute copy" of the PS3's early design....oh wait it is since MS basically tried to copy it and ACTUALLY rushed it last minute to come out first (and we all know how THAT ended up)...but either way my original point still stands about they are not the "original". ;)
Where did that strange analogy come from ? Sounds like flamebait. Anyway, your point doesn't really stand imo. You either consider gamerscore for what it brought to the table, as in its universal achievements/points system with easy comparison tools, or you consider it for what it is made of, as in little rewards, and a score. In that case, you needn't even bother with Goldeneye, you could just talk about pong, after all, there was a score in that game too. But I don't think that's what people talk about when they say that Trophies are a copy of achievements, and you know it. (And it's indeed a last minute copy. Wouldn't call it cheap though)
And how often do 'cheap last minute' copies best or force the original to improve? Just because something was copied means what? Kinect was just a cheap last minute copy of the EYETOY. There are plenty of examples out there. Get off your MS high horse of pride, step down to reality, and realize that every company in the world does this.
I believe the early arcade games were the original so your right.Nothing beat having that top score with your name A.S.S. Funny how everyone did that is it not.
They are both the exact same thing. Anyway my gamer score is nearly 64374
Lol, thats the point... Any random number. How many 1000/1000s you got in there? are you the type that plays a load of games and complete a few or play less and complete most of them? Trophies give a better quicker indication at the moment. I thought the 360 crowd would of loved how easy sony made trophies even if you hated their guts;)
@Why o why Trophies come down to a number as well, whether it's how many total trophies you have, what your level is, or how many platinum trophies you have acquired. They're the same thing. On the Xbox dashboard, it shows you how many games in which you have full gamerscore. On xbox.com, you can sort your achievements by completion as well.
not quite There are many people who have a higher number of trophies than me but my Level is higher because i have more higher end trophies ie golds and platinums. I know you can sort them but its just easier to work it all out when its tiered. Nor sorting its just there, level 19 with x plats x golds etc so its not just a simple numbers thing. Like I said earlier give MS credit where its due but i feel levels, and the different trophies is a touch better
Well, tophies are just as flawed as achievements though. Some games give you several gold trophies for doing stupid things, while you can finish others and not get anything beyond a silver trophy. In the end, you can just as easily pick your games to increase your level or your number of trophies artificially. They are indeed almost the exact same thing... I wish the total score (as in 45680/85000 for example) or the icons you get in your xbox profile for having a 100% completed game could be public though.