Jacques Voller may have pre-ordered a PS Vita ahead of its Western launch, but he’s wholly unconvinced it will be the game-changer Sony proclaimed. Here, he explains why.
why some people arent as great as their mother said they are the vita doesnt need to be a revolution but be a good handheld.
Exacly, the PSP wasnt a revolution but it delivered in my eyes.
so much hate people have nowadays... |:
@nix Only when its against Sony now I see why you say that
delivered what? a steaming pile of poo?
Da Shredder should take a look at premium android phones, Tegra 2/3 tablets, Iphones, and Ipads. Now those are steaming piles of crap. I have had an Iphone 4, a Tegra 2 tablet, a Droid Bionic, and a Samsung Galaxy Nexus S. They are ALL horrible for games. Not a single game they can deliver is impressive in any way compared to a 3DS or even a PSP. I just got done returning a Motorola Xoom and was wholly unimpressed by the "Tegra Zone" offering of what they considered "ground breaking games". The games they offered were utter shite. They looked like PS2 games. For a dual core 1ghz with a dedicated gpu thats awful in every way. I have a phone to do my business and run my essential apps but when I game I want something impressive. Not something overspec'd and under-delivered like every tablet and smartphone on the market. Resistance Retribution on the PSP is more impressive than Shadowgun on smart devices and that thing already has gimped cotnrols. Sad fact is that those single analog nub games played better than almost every tablet game. F@#$ this argument about the Iphone and Ipad being better and F@#$ the argument of the vita being too expensive. The Ipad is overpriced and is awful in terms of practicality and only the most brain-dead apple zombie consumer would argue that its "more impressive". You pay $499 for a 16GB oversized ipod touch that does nothing great that a freaking $100 android phone can't do and they both end up sucking at games. I can pay $149 for a capable android phone and keep my $300 3G Vita for my REAL GAMES.
Sony wouldn't be the only company to claim this. And I hardly remember them saying anything revolutionary about it. BUT they did make a great system with gaming features that matter. 1 - Expensive? The PS Vita is inexpensive and cheaper than the smartphones you're comparing it to. If the PS Vita had internal memory, you'd bet your ass it'd cost $100 more(especially if it was an Apple product, lol). 2 - Market? It's idiotic to think that gaming consoles are in the same market as smartphones. Phones weren't obviously made for the gamers. Their games are cheaper for a reason. I already have a phone. And don't even get me started on the games, support, exclusives and controls. They just don't deliver what I want as a gamer. 3 - Sales? The PSP sold well over $75mil. The 3DS is already selling more than the DS did. 4 - Games? There are plenty of new IPs. AND well known pre-established IPs are also great for initial appeal to the fans of these games. This article just tries to spin everything negatively. If they were true gamers, they wouldn't want a a strong gaming system with plenty of potential to fail?
If it doesn't then Sony shouldn't claim it to be so. For so many people that love to complain about new IPs and you launch a system with ports and same old same old, then yeah we can see why it is already struggeling in Japan and limping into the US. Once again, Sony made the change that it is a game-changer and it is revolutionary. So you saying it doesn't need to be which I do agree is really irrelevant to the overall stance of what Sony has themselves claimed. It doesn't need to deliever in just one or two peoples eyes. Sony as a company needs it to deliver on a much bigger scale that shows results. this isn't about us individually.
EVERY company that releases anything uses buzz words like that to promote the product. Sure, early on the games are not going to be that great. Compare early efforts for any system to 2nd generation or 3rd generation games on that same platform (how about Altered Beast on Genesis versus Vectorman or Sonic 3 for example). Sony has proven that they will support their systems and not let them die an early death (they proved this with the PSP). I plan on getting a Vita but it will be after the obviously looming "slim" version, or whatever the second revision of the hardware will be called, is released.
That is what Microsoft did and Kinect in my eyes and many people's eyes haven't delivered at all. They claimed it would fly to the moon and made excuses and backslid when it didn't. They even started admitting it was only for casual and not really for the hardcore like they boasted. It is called advertising. Microsoft boasts all the time about their products and they are either crap or not even close to what they promised. So why hit Sony for trying to boast their product with a little razzle dazzle? Make up your mind people. Should Sony boast and swagger like Microsoft does or keep quiet in a corner?
I don't about you, but the Vita is the handheld I've been waiting for. It's a revolution in my eyes. I expect console quality games on the Vita and if that isn't a revolution then I don't know what is.
Yes, because every marketing and promoter from this day forth shall only use words such as just good, decent, a bit better, and so on. Use words that are more indifferent. Use words that doesn't hype. Maybe it isn't revolutionary in some people's eye but it certainly is for others. We all have different definition of revolutionary. I don't think the first iPhone or iPad were revolutionary. But there are those who disagree and swear that I am wrong, are they wrong? No. Am I right? Yes, because it's my opinion.
"Sony as a company needs it to deliver on a much bigger scale that shows results. this isn't about us individually." you want Sony to show a bigger scale? Hows this for a bigger scale? take this into perspective..If people are already saying that the Nintendo 3DS is doing fantastic now with 15 million. sold Android for the year: Android smart phone shipments just in Q4 2011 alone shipped 81.9 million units, resulting in a total of 237.8 million for the full year, up 244% on 2010.The Playstation Suite runs on ANDROID! an the PSVita also runs the Playstation Suite! how is it no one is asking if Nintendo is investing into growth into the smartphone an tablet market? Did Nintendo not see what happened to the PDA device market when smartphones absorbed the PDA market? Sony did 1st hand, Sony already has experience with that market. Something Nintendo has not had to deal with Sony's not taking any chances. Sony's layout for mobile gaming 81 page doc. http://research.scee.net/fi... thats why Sony is claiming its a revolution, its the way that Mobile Game has been done in the past. what Sony is set to change the way Mobile Gaming is done moving forward.
Just one question for you RedHemi... Have you picked the system up and tried it yet? I'm guessing you haven't because if you have you would then see that it is the Revolution that some of us were hoping it would be. I myself got the chance to play it in the Sony store in NYC and let me tell you, it's a sexy beast. Not only does it feel good in your hands but the launch games are great. Play it before you hate it...
When Microsoft released the 360, they had a weakish line up of only one or two good games. and most of them weren't Online capable. Yet it sold just fine here in the states. The PSVita has one of the strongest lineups BECAUSE of established franchises like Uncharted and Fifa. There is a few ports. FEW. Most games being released for the Vita are either completely new IPs or new entries into an existing franchise. Continuing with your "same ole, same ole" remark, what would happen if SONY had capcom release a Monster Hunter HD port for a launch title with 3G compatible online matches? The damn thing wouldn't be able to be found on the shelves in Japan. SONY just needs to exploit opportunities that they have with this machine. Cause the Vita will sell, its just a matter of time. I personally dont see the Vita "limping" into the US as seeing my local Gamestop has alot of pre-orders. Not only that but hell the thing hasnt even been released yet and its already getting thrown into "going to bankrupt SONY"..... Its bullsh**. I just think people are angry cause they spent 500 dollars on a new iPhone, have to pay out the wazoo to keep it running, and then even more so have to pay for games that only satisfy a 5 year old.
Sony is marketing this as a "console on the go"...your telling me thats not a revolution?
They agree with MS kinect and iphone siri as revolution (both have been done b4) but not a handheld with oled and as powerful as ps3.
and what everyone just doesn't seem to understand, Sony are about to release there own app store, but this app store has infinite games and the games cost nothing. it's called LBPVita
After I played it the other day at GAME, and played FIFA, I was shocked at how good the graphics were, and how fluid the gameplay was. I don't know how the f*ck they stuck it all in to one little device, but for me, it IS a revolution!
Why do you take everything anti Sony, "so personal?" Unless Sony's your boyfriend/husband, you shouldn't be so uptight about a few negative Sony articles. I don't agree with the article (just pointing out your unhealthy obsession with Sony).
It's not just one article Titanz it's dozens and when you want something to succeed so that more 3rd party developers can create amazing games for the device, then you voice your opinion.
The haters need to stop bringing up price. The PS Vita has better specs than any tablet or smartphone on the market. Not only that but it costs half the price. You're telling me I'm getting ripped off, for buying a PS Vita, with 3 games, a 16GB Memory Card and an Accessory Kit for £340? Yet an iPhone, that has a starting retail price of £499.99 isn't a rip off? Despite Vita dwarfing its specs? Get out of here. Lets run this down. In the UK, the average 2 year iPhone contract is £35 a month. Meaning on average, over 2 years, people will pay £800+ for the phone alone and thats not counting any insurance or apps that they buy on the App Store. Now if I were to take that £800, I could buy all the stuff I'm buying at the Vita launch for £340, and still have £500 left over god knows how many games to buy Vita games. Are you REALLY telling me, the PS Vita is a more expensive investment? The whole culture of people thinking that a contract negates the high price tag of smartphones is disgusting. it's more expensive than buying one out right. Let me further break this down. Out of my 20 PSP games, I would say I bought 15 of them myself. The rest were gifts. Now say that each game was £30 (though I know I paid less than that for many of them), thats £450 on games over the 7 years I've had it. The system itself cost me £250 and I have a memory card which cost me £30. So I've spent £630 roughly, on my PSP over the 7 years I've owned it. Yet, its STILL cheaper, than having a 2 year iPhone contract. Haters please, sit down, and for heavens sake, shut up. @RedHemi300c, you chat sh*t son. The only thing the Vita doesn't do that the iPhone does is make phone calls. Does making phonecalls, a feature that even £30 phones from Tesco can do, warrant me paying nearly a grand to keep my phone over two years? Get OUT of here. I do not care about consumer value perception. It doesn't change the fact that the media that constantly reports that the Vita is more expensive than an iPhone is factually incorrect, which was the purpose of my post. The only additional thing I need to buy for PS Vita is a memory card. A 16GB one costs £40. It's STILL cheaper. Your argument is moot. Stop talking. End of the day you can say what I want. But my argument is no less illogical than comparing the PS Vita to the iPhone, which the media seem to love doing these days.
Sigh, You don't even realize what you are spouting off at when you are doing comparisons: "You're telling me I'm getting ripped off, for buying a PS Vita, with 3 games, a 16GB Memory Card and an Accessory Kit for £340? Yet an iPhone, that has a starting retail price of £499.99 isn't a rip off? Despite Vita dwarfing its specs? Get out of here." Yes sparky the iPhone I don't need to buy anything ADDITIONAL meaning it is OPTIONAL when the value is compared. The Iphone is a CELL PHONE that does everything today that most consumers care for. The Vita is a game system that whether you like it or not is competing in the same pool as the 3DS, Smartphones and tablets. It will not have the same value precieved by CONSUMERS not YOU individually. Can some of you actually read and comment and actually accept you are not what equals the world. They release an Iphone each year so your comparison about specs for a system that is new and will be the same specs for years to come will eventually be overpassed. That is how it works.
Loool your missing the point that £840 over two years isnt optional loool
"It will not have the same value precieved by CONSUMERS not YOU individually. Can some of you actually read and comment and actually accept you are not what equals the world." Exactly! Why is this such a hard concept to perceive on the N4G???? @Optical- You can get an iphone for $50 with a plan. I like how your argument COMPLETELY ignores the 3G version of Vita...which starts at $300 and THEN you have to pay for a plan.
You dont have to pay for a plan, you can do pay as you go data.
"You can get an iphone for $50 with a plan." You can also get a rotary phone for pretty cheap these days. Why would anyone be comparing the price of outdated technology with a brand new gaming handheld? Oh! To make a false point! I bet you can get a PSP for $50 as well. But it won't do the same things a Vita will. Just like an iPhone 3G won't do the same things as an iPhone 4.
just because people choose to ignore the contract for 2 years does not mean they still do not have to pay for it! an with the PSVita 3G i can make a "skypein" phone call incoming an outgoing with a skype in phone number an im not locked into a 2 year contract. an the new smartphones for cost/chipset in them cost far more than what Sony is asking for the PSVita. take your iPhone 4S as an great example: The iPhone 4S contains 2x Core ARM A5'S AN 2X CORE GPU..while the PSVita contains 4x core ARM A9's an 4x CORE GPU. it will take atleast 2 more iPhone series smartphone release's inother words min of 2 freaking years from now just to match the hardware. an even than your 2 year locked in contract will still make it more expensive. ignoring the truth is one thing but speaking the truth is another thing all together. an im speaking the truth. the PSVita may be competeing with the 3DS but the 3DS is effected by smartphones just as much as it would be for the PSVita. you cannot have it both ways. bringing up smartphones is OK because Sony is investing into smartphones for playstation game sales just like they are for the PSVita. Microsoft is doing the same for Xbox an windows phones..which at this point Nintendo is the one that is not..Investing into the smartphone market. once again im going to post the number's: take this into perspective..If people are already saying that the Nintendo 3DS is doing fantastic now with 15 million. sold Android for the year: Android smart phone shipments just in Q4 2011 alone shipped 81.9 million units, resulting in a total of 237.8 million for the full year, up 244% on 2010.The Playstation Suite runs on ANDROID! an the PSVita also runs the Playstation Suite! Is Nintendo the one missing the Boat?
Everyone who disagreed with you is very smart. Everyone who agreed are pretty stupid. Optical_Matrix just took a dump on your chest bro.
"You're telling me I'm getting ripped off, for buying a PS Vita, with 3 games, a 16GB Memory Card and an Accessory Kit for £340? Yet an iPhone, that has a starting retail price of £499.99 isn't a rip off? Despite Vita dwarfing its specs?" LOL, your defending and NO ONE here is even attacking you. Who said you were getting ripped off? What we are saying that the MAINSTREAM will have trouble swallowing a $250 price for a portable gaming console. And PLEEEEASE don't make yourself look even more ignorant by giving the "Iphone/iPad is more expensive and it sells well" You know damn well that Apple advertises the hell out of their portables...which is why they sell so well. How many TV ads have you seen on television regarding Vita? Take a marketing course. Its called brand equity. If the public PERCEIVES that something is better than the alternative, then they will buy it...even though its more expensive than the alternative. For example, an unlocked iphone is more expensive than your average unlocked Sony Ericsson phone...yet the iphone sells more, why is this? I'm usually not the type of person that says this because I have had my own issues with the bubble system..but you sir, people like you who don't see the reality that is in front of them DESERVE to only have one bubble. OWNED/
nice little rant, full of pompous bullshit as per usual.
I love how you think you're a marketing expert because you took a marketing 101 course. "Who said you were getting ripped off?" Everything you said is null and void right there. If you are not getting ripped off at the value Sony currently priced the Vita, why should they lower it? "What we are saying that the MAINSTREAM will have trouble swallowing a $250 price for a portable gaming console." Why do you think this? You even said it yourself... "If the public PERCEIVES that something is better than the alternative, then they will buy it...even though its more expensive than the alternative." So I don't understand why you think the public will have trouble buying the Vita for $250. Before you go on and say "there are no ads for the VITA!!!" Sony already said they'll start advertising around Vita's launch. If Nintendo never dropped the price of the 3DS so quickly nobody would even be saying that the Vita should drop in price by the summer... All of this "consumers will have trouble paying $250 for a portable gaming system" has more to with the 3DS not selling well initially as oppose to them thinking that the public will not see the Vita being worth $250. OwNeD/ :D
I agree with this, "If Nintendo never dropped the price of the 3DS so quickly nobody would even be saying that the Vita should drop in price by the summer... " I knew that people would complain about the price of the Vita after Nintendo did there price cut, even though everyone was saying "what a steal" the Vita is at the prices that were released at the end of last year.