Jacques Voller may have pre-ordered a PS Vita ahead of its Western launch, but he’s wholly unconvinced it will be the game-changer Sony proclaimed. Here, he explains why.
why some people arent as great as their mother said they are the vita doesnt need to be a revolution but be a good handheld.
Exacly, the PSP wasnt a revolution but it delivered in my eyes.
so much hate people have nowadays... |:
@nix Only when its against Sony now I see why you say that
delivered what? a steaming pile of poo?
Da Shredder should take a look at premium android phones, Tegra 2/3 tablets, Iphones, and Ipads. Now those are steaming piles of crap. I have had an Iphone 4, a Tegra 2 tablet, a Droid Bionic, and a Samsung Galaxy Nexus S. They are ALL horrible for games. Not a single game they can deliver is impressive in any way compared to a 3DS or even a PSP. I just got done returning a Motorola Xoom and was wholly unimpressed by the "Tegra Zone" offering of what they considered "ground breaking games". The games they offered were utter shite. They looked like PS2 games. For a dual core 1ghz with a dedicated gpu thats awful in every way. I have a phone to do my business and run my essential apps but when I game I want something impressive. Not something overspec'd and under-delivered like every tablet and smartphone on the market. Resistance Retribution on the PSP is more impressive than Shadowgun on smart devices and that thing already has gimped cotnrols. Sad fact is that those single analog nub games played better than almost every tablet game. [email protected]#$ this argument about the Iphone and Ipad being better and [email protected]#$ the argument of the vita being too expensive. The Ipad is overpriced and is awful in terms of practicality and only the most brain-dead apple zombie consumer would argue that its "more impressive". You pay $499 for a 16GB oversized ipod touch that does nothing great that a freaking $100 android phone can't do and they both end up sucking at games. I can pay $149 for a capable android phone and keep my $300 3G Vita for my REAL GAMES.
Sony wouldn't be the only company to claim this. And I hardly remember them saying anything revolutionary about it. BUT they did make a great system with gaming features that matter. 1 - Expensive? The PS Vita is inexpensive and cheaper than the smartphones you're comparing it to. If the PS Vita had internal memory, you'd bet your ass it'd cost $100 more(especially if it was an Apple product, lol). 2 - Market? It's idiotic to think that gaming consoles are in the same market as smartphones. Phones weren't obviously made for the gamers. Their games are cheaper for a reason. I already have a phone. And don't even get me started on the games, support, exclusives and controls. They just don't deliver what I want as a gamer. 3 - Sales? The PSP sold well over $75mil. The 3DS is already selling more than the DS did. 4 - Games? There are plenty of new IPs. AND well known pre-established IPs are also great for initial appeal to the fans of these games. This article just tries to spin everything negatively. If they were true gamers, they wouldn't want a a strong gaming system with plenty of potential to fail?
If it doesn't then Sony shouldn't claim it to be so. For so many people that love to complain about new IPs and you launch a system with ports and same old same old, then yeah we can see why it is already struggeling in Japan and limping into the US. Once again, Sony made the change that it is a game-changer and it is revolutionary. So you saying it doesn't need to be which I do agree is really irrelevant to the overall stance of what Sony has themselves claimed. It doesn't need to deliever in just one or two peoples eyes. Sony as a company needs it to deliver on a much bigger scale that shows results. this isn't about us individually.
EVERY company that releases anything uses buzz words like that to promote the product. Sure, early on the games are not going to be that great. Compare early efforts for any system to 2nd generation or 3rd generation games on that same platform (how about Altered Beast on Genesis versus Vectorman or Sonic 3 for example). Sony has proven that they will support their systems and not let them die an early death (they proved this with the PSP). I plan on getting a Vita but it will be after the obviously looming "slim" version, or whatever the second revision of the hardware will be called, is released.
That is what Microsoft did and Kinect in my eyes and many people's eyes haven't delivered at all. They claimed it would fly to the moon and made excuses and backslid when it didn't. They even started admitting it was only for casual and not really for the hardcore like they boasted. It is called advertising. Microsoft boasts all the time about their products and they are either crap or not even close to what they promised. So why hit Sony for trying to boast their product with a little razzle dazzle? Make up your mind people. Should Sony boast and swagger like Microsoft does or keep quiet in a corner?
I don't about you, but the Vita is the handheld I've been waiting for. It's a revolution in my eyes. I expect console quality games on the Vita and if that isn't a revolution then I don't know what is.
Yes, because every marketing and promoter from this day forth shall only use words such as just good, decent, a bit better, and so on. Use words that are more indifferent. Use words that doesn't hype. Maybe it isn't revolutionary in some people's eye but it certainly is for others. We all have different definition of revolutionary. I don't think the first iPhone or iPad were revolutionary. But there are those who disagree and swear that I am wrong, are they wrong? No. Am I right? Yes, because it's my opinion.
"Sony as a company needs it to deliver on a much bigger scale that shows results. this isn't about us individually." you want Sony to show a bigger scale? Hows this for a bigger scale? take this into perspective..If people are already saying that the Nintendo 3DS is doing fantastic now with 15 million. sold Android for the year: Android smart phone shipments just in Q4 2011 alone shipped 81.9 million units, resulting in a total of 237.8 million for the full year, up 244% on 2010.The Playstation Suite runs on ANDROID! an the PSVita also runs the Playstation Suite! how is it no one is asking if Nintendo is investing into growth into the smartphone an tablet market? Did Nintendo not see what happened to the PDA device market when smartphones absorbed the PDA market? Sony did 1st hand, Sony already has experience with that market. Something Nintendo has not had to deal with Sony's not taking any chances. Sony's layout for mobile gaming 81 page doc. http://research.scee.net/fi... thats why Sony is claiming its a revolution, its the way that Mobile Game has been done in the past. what Sony is set to change the way Mobile Gaming is done moving forward.
Just one question for you RedHemi... Have you picked the system up and tried it yet? I'm guessing you haven't because if you have you would then see that it is the Revolution that some of us were hoping it would be. I myself got the chance to play it in the Sony store in NYC and let me tell you, it's a sexy beast. Not only does it feel good in your hands but the launch games are great. Play it before you hate it...
When Microsoft released the 360, they had a weakish line up of only one or two good games. and most of them weren't Online capable. Yet it sold just fine here in the states. The PSVita has one of the strongest lineups BECAUSE of established franchises like Uncharted and Fifa. There is a few ports. FEW. Most games being released for the Vita are either completely new IPs or new entries into an existing franchise. Continuing with your "same ole, same ole" remark, what would happen if SONY had capcom release a Monster Hunter HD port for a launch title with 3G compatible online matches? The damn thing wouldn't be able to be found on the shelves in Japan. SONY just needs to exploit opportunities that they have with this machine. Cause the Vita will sell, its just a matter of time. I personally dont see the Vita "limping" into the US as seeing my local Gamestop has alot of pre-orders. Not only that but hell the thing hasnt even been released yet and its already getting thrown into "going to bankrupt SONY"..... Its bullsh**. I just think people are angry cause they spent 500 dollars on a new iPhone, have to pay out the wazoo to keep it running, and then even more so have to pay for games that only satisfy a 5 year old.
Sony is marketing this as a "console on the go"...your telling me thats not a revolution?
They agree with MS kinect and iphone siri as revolution (both have been done b4) but not a handheld with oled and as powerful as ps3.
and what everyone just doesn't seem to understand, Sony are about to release there own app store, but this app store has infinite games and the games cost nothing. it's called LBPVita
After I played it the other day at GAME, and played FIFA, I was shocked at how good the graphics were, and how fluid the gameplay was. I don't know how the f*ck they stuck it all in to one little device, but for me, it IS a revolution!
Why do you take everything anti Sony, "so personal?" Unless Sony's your boyfriend/husband, you shouldn't be so uptight about a few negative Sony articles. I don't agree with the article (just pointing out your unhealthy obsession with Sony).
It's not just one article Titanz it's dozens and when you want something to succeed so that more 3rd party developers can create amazing games for the device, then you voice your opinion.
The haters need to stop bringing up price. The PS Vita has better specs than any tablet or smartphone on the market. Not only that but it costs half the price. You're telling me I'm getting ripped off, for buying a PS Vita, with 3 games, a 16GB Memory Card and an Accessory Kit for £340? Yet an iPhone, that has a starting retail price of £499.99 isn't a rip off? Despite Vita dwarfing its specs? Get out of here. Lets run this down. In the UK, the average 2 year iPhone contract is £35 a month. Meaning on average, over 2 years, people will pay £800+ for the phone alone and thats not counting any insurance or apps that they buy on the App Store. Now if I were to take that £800, I could buy all the stuff I'm buying at the Vita launch for £340, and still have £500 left over god knows how many games to buy Vita games. Are you REALLY telling me, the PS Vita is a more expensive investment? The whole culture of people thinking that a contract negates the high price tag of smartphones is disgusting. it's more expensive than buying one out right. Let me further break this down. Out of my 20 PSP games, I would say I bought 15 of them myself. The rest were gifts. Now say that each game was £30 (though I know I paid less than that for many of them), thats £450 on games over the 7 years I've had it. The system itself cost me £250 and I have a memory card which cost me £30. So I've spent £630 roughly, on my PSP over the 7 years I've owned it. Yet, its STILL cheaper, than having a 2 year iPhone contract. Haters please, sit down, and for heavens sake, shut up. @RedHemi300c, you chat sh*t son. The only thing the Vita doesn't do that the iPhone does is make phone calls. Does making phonecalls, a feature that even £30 phones from Tesco can do, warrant me paying nearly a grand to keep my phone over two years? Get OUT of here. I do not care about consumer value perception. It doesn't change the fact that the media that constantly reports that the Vita is more expensive than an iPhone is factually incorrect, which was the purpose of my post. The only additional thing I need to buy for PS Vita is a memory card. A 16GB one costs £40. It's STILL cheaper. Your argument is moot. Stop talking. End of the day you can say what I want. But my argument is no less illogical than comparing the PS Vita to the iPhone, which the media seem to love doing these days.
Sigh, You don't even realize what you are spouting off at when you are doing comparisons: "You're telling me I'm getting ripped off, for buying a PS Vita, with 3 games, a 16GB Memory Card and an Accessory Kit for £340? Yet an iPhone, that has a starting retail price of £499.99 isn't a rip off? Despite Vita dwarfing its specs? Get out of here." Yes sparky the iPhone I don't need to buy anything ADDITIONAL meaning it is OPTIONAL when the value is compared. The Iphone is a CELL PHONE that does everything today that most consumers care for. The Vita is a game system that whether you like it or not is competing in the same pool as the 3DS, Smartphones and tablets. It will not have the same value precieved by CONSUMERS not YOU individually. Can some of you actually read and comment and actually accept you are not what equals the world. They release an Iphone each year so your comparison about specs for a system that is new and will be the same specs for years to come will eventually be overpassed. That is how it works.
Loool your missing the point that £840 over two years isnt optional loool
"It will not have the same value precieved by CONSUMERS not YOU individually. Can some of you actually read and comment and actually accept you are not what equals the world." Exactly! Why is this such a hard concept to perceive on the N4G???? @Optical- You can get an iphone for $50 with a plan. I like how your argument COMPLETELY ignores the 3G version of Vita...which starts at $300 and THEN you have to pay for a plan.
You dont have to pay for a plan, you can do pay as you go data.
"You can get an iphone for $50 with a plan." You can also get a rotary phone for pretty cheap these days. Why would anyone be comparing the price of outdated technology with a brand new gaming handheld? Oh! To make a false point! I bet you can get a PSP for $50 as well. But it won't do the same things a Vita will. Just like an iPhone 3G won't do the same things as an iPhone 4.
just because people choose to ignore the contract for 2 years does not mean they still do not have to pay for it! an with the PSVita 3G i can make a "skypein" phone call incoming an outgoing with a skype in phone number an im not locked into a 2 year contract. an the new smartphones for cost/chipset in them cost far more than what Sony is asking for the PSVita. take your iPhone 4S as an great example: The iPhone 4S contains 2x Core ARM A5'S AN 2X CORE GPU..while the PSVita contains 4x core ARM A9's an 4x CORE GPU. it will take atleast 2 more iPhone series smartphone release's inother words min of 2 freaking years from now just to match the hardware. an even than your 2 year locked in contract will still make it more expensive. ignoring the truth is one thing but speaking the truth is another thing all together. an im speaking the truth. the PSVita may be competeing with the 3DS but the 3DS is effected by smartphones just as much as it would be for the PSVita. you cannot have it both ways. bringing up smartphones is OK because Sony is investing into smartphones for playstation game sales just like they are for the PSVita. Microsoft is doing the same for Xbox an windows phones..which at this point Nintendo is the one that is not..Investing into the smartphone market. once again im going to post the number's: take this into perspective..If people are already saying that the Nintendo 3DS is doing fantastic now with 15 million. sold Android for the year: Android smart phone shipments just in Q4 2011 alone shipped 81.9 million units, resulting in a total of 237.8 million for the full year, up 244% on 2010.The Playstation Suite runs on ANDROID! an the PSVita also runs the Playstation Suite! Is Nintendo the one missing the Boat?
Everyone who disagreed with you is very smart. Everyone who agreed are pretty stupid. Optical_Matrix just took a dump on your chest bro.
"You're telling me I'm getting ripped off, for buying a PS Vita, with 3 games, a 16GB Memory Card and an Accessory Kit for £340? Yet an iPhone, that has a starting retail price of £499.99 isn't a rip off? Despite Vita dwarfing its specs?" LOL, your defending and NO ONE here is even attacking you. Who said you were getting ripped off? What we are saying that the MAINSTREAM will have trouble swallowing a $250 price for a portable gaming console. And PLEEEEASE don't make yourself look even more ignorant by giving the "Iphone/iPad is more expensive and it sells well" You know damn well that Apple advertises the hell out of their portables...which is why they sell so well. How many TV ads have you seen on television regarding Vita? Take a marketing course. Its called brand equity. If the public PERCEIVES that something is better than the alternative, then they will buy it...even though its more expensive than the alternative. For example, an unlocked iphone is more expensive than your average unlocked Sony Ericsson phone...yet the iphone sells more, why is this? I'm usually not the type of person that says this because I have had my own issues with the bubble system..but you sir, people like you who don't see the reality that is in front of them DESERVE to only have one bubble. OWNED/
nice little rant, full of pompous bullshit as per usual.
I love how you think you're a marketing expert because you took a marketing 101 course. "Who said you were getting ripped off?" Everything you said is null and void right there. If you are not getting ripped off at the value Sony currently priced the Vita, why should they lower it? "What we are saying that the MAINSTREAM will have trouble swallowing a $250 price for a portable gaming console." Why do you think this? You even said it yourself... "If the public PERCEIVES that something is better than the alternative, then they will buy it...even though its more expensive than the alternative." So I don't understand why you think the public will have trouble buying the Vita for $250. Before you go on and say "there are no ads for the VITA!!!" Sony already said they'll start advertising around Vita's launch. If Nintendo never dropped the price of the 3DS so quickly nobody would even be saying that the Vita should drop in price by the summer... All of this "consumers will have trouble paying $250 for a portable gaming system" has more to with the 3DS not selling well initially as oppose to them thinking that the public will not see the Vita being worth $250. OwNeD/ :D
I agree with this, "If Nintendo never dropped the price of the 3DS so quickly nobody would even be saying that the Vita should drop in price by the summer... " I knew that people would complain about the price of the Vita after Nintendo did there price cut, even though everyone was saying "what a steal" the Vita is at the prices that were released at the end of last year.
All I got to say is that the PSVita is a device best advertise by word of mouth/trying it. The device is a beauty that words can't describe. It just feels right. (The only knock I have is that the analog stick could a slightly lower but that's just me)
@ logic Its funny that sometimes you make a really good statement, and then turn around and spout off gibberish. Do you have a younger, incredibly immature brother with access to your account?
I agree with the percieved value of something like this. I think most people will compare it to gaming systems. The ps3 has a much bigger library and is more powerful and costs the same thing. The 3ds has more games and costs less. It doesnt matter that it launched at 250 becuase people dont care or remember, they se 150-170 vs 250-300+memory card and see a hundred to hundred fifty dollar diference. The vita is more powerfu than a 3ds im sure but average people see revelations and golden abyss and they look about on par with each other. The other alternatives have a much better value to MOST people. Now people like us who follow gaming and have been waiting for a handheld with full online networking, two thumbsticks, and a sick ass screen will see more value in it than most people. We are the target demographic of the vita so people need to stop comparing it to a phone market which is everyone on the face of the planet.
Indeed he has...in the inside!
People tend to forget that the initial price point of all consoles will go down eventually. Along with the games and accessories. So the price being a barrier does not really hold true in the long run. You have to also remember that every new iteration of a console comes out cheaper, this cannot be said to be the same with the smartphones or iPhones which will come out as more expensive than its predecessor, even with minor updates to the overall design. Aside from the point that the Vita is a WANT and not a NEED. As for the casual audience, Sony said so themselves they plan to tackle the casual market with the Vita in 2-3yrs time because they themselves know their price and their current offerings are catered towards the core market. If Sony fails to deliver with the PS Suite and free apps that can really justify the purchase then we can all say they're in deep trouble but as of now, its too early to tell and it seems like Sony knows what their doing right now.
why the fuck is this guy called "logicwins"?
Basically, the moral of the story here... People buy what the f*** they want, regardless how much you bitch about it. Stop acting like your opinions hold any weight with anyone other than yourself. Buy and enjoy what you want and let everyone else do the same.
Agreed...but whats wrong with speculating? No one here is trying to stop anyone from enjoying anything...what would there possibly be to gain from that?
Because all your uneducated speculating just causes argument, that's what's wrong.
PS Vita has Skype. So technically, you can make phone calls.
100% agreement who ever disagreed with you is doing it to just disagree. what you stated is 100% a fact, has some gamer's not used Skype before? esp. with "SkypeIn" you even get a telephone number that you can take incomeing an outgoing calls with. this skype works on the wifi only PSVita an of course the 3G PSVita. Hell you could do a web video call! Skype has that function an the PSVita has both a rear facing an front facing camera built in. if people are disagreeing with what we just stated their trolling. True facts
Exactly. Well said.
10 comments and not one approval? Must change that now.
Haters gonna hate
Another trash flamebait article. No skin off my nose. Getting mine day one. Suck it haters.
There are too many things that the Vida does right. Only problems I see: Size - too big to be as portable as I would like. Price - when you factor in memory card Battery - if I have to worry about keeping it plugged in for long gaming sessions, then I'd rather just play on my home console. That's just my opinion.
psp was amazing Bringing up smart devices means your a moron dude The 3ds outsold every other piece of hardware in 2011, in just 9 months time Its outselling every other nitnendo device in history at the same point So tell me what doesnt have a big market? "if the Vita had been released before the iPhone, it would be a very different story. " why? the 3ds was released after and its crushing sales records "Does anyone remember when the PSP was first released? Everyone was complaining about the fact that it only had one circle pad, making it impossible to play any game from the shooter genre. " actually nobody cared "Now that they are actually releasing a handheld with two sticks, people on video game discussion boards around the internet are saying that there is no point in having dual sticks since the innovation of the touchscreen." ok now we can rest easy its just a troll article guess what the vita had a better launch than both the psp, psx, and ps2 so whose to say it wont sell?
Another site looking for hits. Never even heard of this site before. They just love popping out of the woodwork.
Someone pull the flusher, this article is starting to stink up the world.
Why dont you cancel your pre-order and stick to playing Angry Birds then.
A couple things... The comment about the Apple apps that are extremely cheap or free. Look at the content of those apps/games. There are reasons they are cheap. They lack content! And lets not forget the "pay to play" model that most ipad/iphone apps are taking these days. You get a free app, but then end up paying $25, $50 or more just the play the game and make progress. Is the iPhone/iPad revolutionary, no! As for price, it does seem a little high but look at what you get in that little package. And as for games, I think the launch line up is quite good. I also think the Vita, since it plays PSP games, will give a bump in the longevity of the PSP and the developed games. If you develop a PSP game, it can still be played on the PSP and Vita. Overall I think the Vita is a nice addition to the gaming market and will do well. I think the upcoming holiday season (2012) will be a good time for the Vita.
They also have that annoying ads! and they also have those online stores where you can buy godly items for some cash. People always tend to look at the price but fail to realize the value of games. Only gamers appreciate/sees that.
It's basically a $249 portable PS3, that's pretty impressive.
it isnt a portable ps3, in terms of power it isnt even close
Its actually very close bro. A quad core cpu and gpu, and more ram. This thing can do what the ps3 can't....cross game chat! Only thing going on here is the higher resolution output for the ps3 on a HDTV, but the vita's screen amazing. And with a whole 128mb more ram then the ps3 we may finally have full custom soundtrack support in the future
I'm not being snarky, just pointing out the "people seem to forget" , logic.
It's pretty close and that (regardless) is impressive. If you enjoy gaming that is....
its basically half way between a psp and ps3, but closer to psp which isnt a bad thing
I know you have used your bubbles so you can't reply, but the Vita is NOT closer to the psp then a ps3. The psp was a Playstation 1.5. The graphics were good for a handheld and the GoW games started looking PS2-ish by the end of its life. The Vita is literally a step up as it's a PS2.5. Pretty much at the beginning of its lifespan it already has Uncharted 1 beaten in terms of visuals. Naughty Dog has mentioned that they were surprised at the visuals and the content contained withhin the levels via exploration. Imagine 3 years from now...It will be a mini PS3 without even trying, and that's worth checking out.
Actually, it has games that are lower than 10 euros/dollars, they are called PS minis...
Blah Blah The thing is badass, the medias expectations for anything Sony relates is ridiculous. Where were the Nintendo is failing with the 3DS articles before it released? (outside of articles about sales) I seriously could care less what the "masses" or media say. I have had extensive play time with vita at work for demonstration purposes and I can say that it truly a innovative platform with serious potential. For me that's all I need to make a purchase and uncharted =)
$300 for Vita with 3G $20 for a memory card $50 for a game = $370 plus tax we will say $400 Add a monthly subsciption for 3G $???? Or wait a few months and buy a Wii-U.....why would anyone besides Sonys hardcore fans really spend that kind of money on a portable is beyond me !!
Look who's talking,you haven't even really seen the wii-u in person but your ready to sell us all on how cool it will be compared to something like the vita which I have seen personally? The fact that vita games beat out every wii game in the graphics department by a large margin is well worth at least a look from everyone who loves gaming.
Why do Nintendo fanboys act like the Wii-U is the second coming of Christ. I love Nintendo, but I can admit that as of now, both the 3DS and the Wii-U look like complete trash. Years down the road I might get a 3DS once there are over 10 to 15 games worth playing, but right now it's a joke. They haven't even shown off buzz worthy games to boost the systems potential, they just let it linger like a dead fart, and reduce the price to sell it up. And the Wii-U? Come on! Not even Nintendo knows what's going on with that. First it can support one tablet, now it's multiples, and only a couple Wii-motes? WTF is going on here Nintendo? I've had every Game-boy and Nintendo system and this is their first generation where I might pass on both.
Because Nintendo fanboys have become obsessed with graphics more than gameplay. Sad but true. XperiaRay
Wii-U is not a portable. The controller will only work within a certain range.