'Xbox 720 blocking used games would be unfair,' writes Halo dev

$60 games are expensive - and gamers shouldn't be forced to keep them, argues Saber Interactive's Matthew Karch

There have been plenty of Xbox 720 rumour reports this year, but one in particular has sparked controversy amongst the gaming public.

[ElementX]

If you can't afford your hobby, get a new one

[LOGICWINS]

I'm sure there are many people that can afford a couple $60 games a year...but common sense dictates that these people would benefit from their hobby even MORE if they had the option of selling back these $60 games if they get bored of them.

Just because you can AFFORD something doesn't mean that you can't try to find a discount for it.

Hypothetically speaking, if you were offered half price on anything in a store for a day...are you going to willingly pay full price just because you can "afford" it?

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

LOL...
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http://n4g.com/news/915478/...

[LOGICWINS]

Firstly

http://n4g.com/news/935832/...

http://n4g.com/news/932766/...

http://n4g.com/news/932501/...

http://n4g.com/news/931928/...

What is your obsession with me...seriously? Anyways, I'll bite if it will make you happy. I'm a nice guy ;)

Theres a difference between not being able to afford something (ElementX's view) and not wanting to spend money (what I said in your link).

Scenario #1

Say your an average gamer/live alone college student and you have $60 in your pocket. In this scenario, you WANT to spend money on a brand new game, but you can't AFFORD it. So you choose to spend that $60 on groceries instead.

Scenario #2

Say your an average gamer/live alone college student who just won the lottery. In this scenario, you can AFFORD all the games you want and buy all the groceries you want. HOWEVER, you no longer believe that games are worth buying since your a rich bastard and you've embraced new hobbies such as wining/dining models or bungie jumping twice a week etc. In this case, you choose not to SPEND money on games...even though you can afford it.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

Upset that I call you out on your B.S. on a regular basis...
?

Did you not see who you replied to? The dude was talking about how he could not afford to shell out money on a new console and you came in and replied that if you don't want to spend money you're in the wrong hobby...

But like always, you'll never admit when you are wrong lol.

[vishant101]

u made my night Outside_ofthe_Box hav a bub

[sikbeta]

It's just a rumor, there is no proof of this and I don't think MS will do that, their cash cow is Live, they can live with used purchased games as long as people need to play online, no need to do this s***

[Army_of_Darkness]

I wouldn't have been able to afford this hobby if I didn't search around for good deals on games
"A $60 game has about $30 of waste in it in getting the game to retail. I really believe that with digital distribution you can get that same full-length experience for $30."......... If it cost half price for digital copies of new games, then I can definitely agree with that idea!

[gamingdroid]

Most people that says "If you can't afford your hobby, get a new one" are the people that ends up NOT affording it in the long run.

A foole and his money is soone parted....

[hellzsupernova]

how are these people going to survive when it goes all digital?

[Animals_as_Leaders]

If you don't like gaming you can giiiiiit out!!!

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What an ignorant thing to say.

That's like telling someone on minimum wage that if they can't afford overpriced elitist brand caviar that they shouldn't buy basic groceries...

Gaming is only expensive if you let it be...but that doesn't mean it should become an elitist hobby because *CUNTS* like yourself can afford it easier than those that buy used games.

:-D

[ElementX]

No, it's not anything like your caviar example. If you can't afford expensive caviar, don't buy it. It has nothing to do with "basic groceries". Buy what you can afford. You don't see some person living on the street collecting classic cars.

[gamingdroid]

@ElementX

No... but I have seen "homeless" people pass up quick and easy jobs that earns twice as much as flipping burgers!

[ziggurcat]

unfair is putting it mildly...

[KingPin]

i agree.
but i dont think these idiots think it through before they talk out their ass.

the store only takes in used games coz they can make money off it. half the people i know are able to BUY NEW GAMES because they trade in their older ones and get a credit for it which they put towards buying the new game.

now take away used game sales, why would someone wanna trade in a game and get nothing for it. no trade in = no credit, no credit = no discount, no discount = cant afford the new game hence NEW GAME DOES NOT GET SOLD!!

[ziggurcat]

exactly.

a good portion of the new games i've purchased have been because i've traded in older games that i was no longer playing to get them at a lower price (even getting money back in some cases!)

the other thing is that rental businesses would no longer be able to rent games if they were tied to specific units.

[LX-General-Kaos]

Not going to lie. After being asked to renew my gamestop card, pre orders, game guards EVERYTIME I go to gamestop. I almost want to see them go down for not being able to sell used games. I cant even go in there to pre order a game without them asking me to pre order another.

I have 2 months left on my card and those bastards STILL ask me to renew it time and time again.

[iistuii]

Bring it on
People don't think twice about going out on a Saturday night & spending £40 on a good piss up. Yet that £40 could buy you a game like B3 or Fifa to play online which will last a whole year. Even going to the pictures costs a packet now. Don't get me wrong, single player games like God of war or say heavy rain once completed in a week or so are then stuck on your hard drive. But if they had a rental system going on it would be cool. Say you rented a single player game digitally for £5 per week, I'd complete most single player games in that time, so it would save me money.

[Furesis]

i think games are very expensive compared to like movies or CD's and i think movies even costs more to make. And i know games give you more hours for your money than movies but sometimes there are games that are just that bad and short that i feel like i've been robed

what do you guys think?

[Genecalypse]

Maybe you should get jobs so you wont to have buy the used copy of MW3 from Gamestop because it happens to be 5$ cheaper

[iistuii]

Agree
But what makes it worse is he buys it £5 cheaper, yet the poor bloke who actually part exchanged it probobly only got £15 for it & they'll sell it on for £35 which is what the dev's wanna stop. Instead of moaning at the devs it's the rip off game stores that need looking at.

[Raider69]

Stop that BS that you buy a used game only $5 cheaper,if this kind of measure go ahead the used game market will be finnish and if you end up buying a turd you will have to keep that turd or send turd game to the garbage straightaway!Used games dont sell only for less $5!If you wait a month you can get some games used with $15 to $20 discount!Dont you feel cheated if you spend $60 and the game ends up been a turd!?Well i feel,because those $60 came from my hard work!

[Mikhail]

With many developers acknowledging this, perhaps this rumor had some weight on it. If true, i will only buy blockbuster titles and for others, ill wait for goty editions or price drops. I wonder what nintendo and sony will do. Though i think sony would follw suit this practice of ms

[humbleopinion]

Saber Interactive didn't develop Halo, they only ported it to the 360. At best the misleading title should have said "writes Halo Anniversary dev"

[munish23]

Well, actually they only created the engine for the campaign of Halo: Anniversary's campaign. Not even sure if you can consider them the developer, all they did was the visual overhaul.