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Forget Used Games, Some New Games Sales Don't Pay Their Creators

Used game sales hurt the bottom line of all console game developers, as the entirety of each sale goes to the retailer and not the game's makers. It's a familiar line we've heard from several developers and publishers in the past five years. With used game sales taking heat from fans and game makers alike, digital distribution, like Steam or GOG.com, seems to offer the chance to get cheap games with a clear conscience, but that's not quite true. Even new games suffer from the same issue as used sales; none of the money actually goes to the people who made the game.

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ziggurcat2080d ago

"Used game sales hurt the bottom line of all console game developers..."

no, they don't. the devs already have your money for your copy of the game, they don't deserve to be paid again for the same copy.

ReservoirDog3162080d ago

Well the point they make is they shouldn't be buying that used copy twice. They should be buying some other new copy.

Wanting a cut in the used sale and wanting to just make new sales is different.

darthv722080d ago

you just cant help but admit there are many that arent worth that new price tag let alone the few dollars difference in used.

I tend not to go to gamestop unless I absolutely have to or unless they are doing their buy 2 get 1 free sale. For 2nd hand games i check craigslist or my local dimple records outlet. Private sale is where this all originated. Someone out there wanted a store to go to and trade in their games and low and behold....the used game market was born.

Funny thing about sales is the stores pay for the games they stock so the programmers, developers are paid when the stores make their orders. When retail outlets sell them to the public, they sell them at a markup to make back what they paid plus a little bit of profit.

A store like GS sells both new and used copies of the same game. When someone goes in looking for a certain game and they see a new title already having a used copy available it tends to make them think twice about if the game is worth it if they see it obviously wasnt to that person who traded it in.

ReservoirDog3162080d ago

@ above

I usually just use amazon unless somewhere else has a good sale going. Most of the time, the new price there is better than the used price somewhere else. Especially since there's no taxes on it.

ziggurcat2080d ago (Edited 2080d ago )

so then they should simply negotiate with those businesses that do sell used games to get a percentage of any used game sale rather than campaign against the practice altogether.

the problem i have with these devs that complain abut used games sales is that they're the *only* industry that whines about it. people buy used DVDs and books, too, but you don't see those industries complaining about their botton line because of used sales or campaigning against businesses that happen to sell those used items.

they're really coming across as a bunch of greed little pigs by complaining.

@ darth:

"When someone goes in looking for a certain game and they see a new title already having a used copy available it tends to make them think twice about if the game is worth it if they see it obviously wasn't to that person who traded it in."

not necessarily true - that all depends on how soon you're seeing a new release in the used section. some people just blow through games like they're nothing. if i trade in a game, it's usually because i've played the living crap out of it and got the platinum and unless the MP is spectacular, i'm never going to put it back into my system.

@ mrbeatdown:

no, it's exactly about them wanting to be paid again for the same copy.

MrBeatdown2080d ago

It's not about being "paid again for the same copy". It's about getting paid for the new copy that didn't sell purely because a place like GameStop undercuts the publishers by $2 - $5 no matter how low the new version of the game is priced.

Smashbro292080d ago (Edited 2080d ago )

If the music and movie industry can handle it, why not games?!

GraveLord2080d ago

Music industry can handle it since songs are only like $1.

AAA games have huge budgets and if a couple thousand of your game gets passed around, not only will this affect the developers but the consumers since there most likely won't be a sequel.

Blaine2080d ago

Both those industries you mentioned have alternate ways of profiting from their products. Concerts, movie theaters, merchandise, etc. Game devs? All they have is your purchase.

To be fair, though, DLC is becoming a large venue for extra revenue for them. The bigger digital distribution gets, the less you'll hear devs criticizing used game sales. In fact I'm sure it'll become the opposite: a sale will mean more possibilities to sell DLC, from which they'll make more profit. Won't matter if the game was purchased new or used anymore.

bwazy2080d ago

I buy used to support the environment... Helps a tad.

Derpy2080d ago

"Used game sales hurt the bottom line of all console game developers, as the entirety of each sale goes to the retailer and not the game's makers..."

I personally don't believe used games hurt the industry at all. I buy most of my games new, but there times when I have bought a used game that I never would have touched at full price and ended up becoming a fan and thus buying the sequels new.

A lot of publishers can't see through their greed enough to understand that used games are the equivalent of free advertising.

While I am not lawyer and am not aquanted with how it is in other nations, in the US, consumers have certain rights. The way things are going, it's really only a matter of time before consumer rights groups start targeting the gaming industy like they did the music industry a while back. Seems it would be in the game publishers' best interests to see past their greed and come up with something that works for both them and the consumers before this boiling point is reached.

KingPin2080d ago

if they make games worth the $60 people are paying for it, they will get their money.

uncharted, mass effect, halo, batman, etc are all franchises that sell well at $60 and they are all great, enjoyable games.

dont give us half-assed crap like condemned 2 and then bitch and moan when we buy a game like in a bargain bin or used.
if you gonna spend a big budget on a big game, make sure its going to be worth it for the people who are going to play it.