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Bonus Round: 2007 In Review: Focus On Microsoft

As we head into the new year, Bonus Round's industry panels assess this passing year and what it has meant for each of the big three competitors in the market; Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony. This week's iteration focuses on Microsoft's Xbox 360 with the following topics debated.

- Is the real battle for Microsoft against Sony or Nintendo?
- How well has Microsoft done with their next-gen console this year?
- The impact of hardware faults
- Is the Xbox 360 a platform just for the hardcore gamers?
- Will losing certain developers as first party harm Microsoft?

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Meus Renaissance3325d ago

Great show this week. One of the points interested me; is the 'hardcore' element tagged with the Xbox 360 (or Xbox brand in general) potentially damaging to the future sales of the console? Can it reach the casual market like Nintendo are doing now and Sony has done in the past with the PS2?

Danja3325d ago (Edited 3325d ago )

I doubt M$ will penetrate the casual market like the PS2 did/is still doing...they just don't have that much variety in there games line up in the fore-seeable future , the PS3 has a few games for the casual players coming next year..and the Wii/DS/PS2 is the king of that market so good luck to them...

and M$ isn' exactly bragging about sales of the Xbox 360 arcade either , look at sales of Viva pinnata....the xbox brand is seen as a system for hardcore gamers..and that won't change this generation..maybe they can try a little harder with the 720

EDIT: if ppl don't agree with what I said atleast state why..?..I didn't say anything bias towards the 360 *sighs*

Danja3325d ago (Edited 3325d ago )

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CeruleanSky3325d ago

Microsoft's first party developers now consists of just:

* Rare
* Lionhead

Forget any notion that the 360 will ever get worldwide sales anywhere near the PS2's 120 million, with the collapse of the 360's first party developer array this year Microsoft's chances of reaching the 24 million worldwide sales of the first Xbox are unlikely.

CeruleanSky3325d ago

All signs point to Microsoft getting ready to leave the console market sometime in 2008.

* The collapse of their first party/exclusive developers - Bungie, Bioware, Bizarre. Leaving Microsoft with just Rare and Lionhead now.

* The firing of execs like Moore

* The cancellation of 360 conferences

* The almost complete silence on plans for the console beyond 2007

* The inability to solve the RRoD hardware failures. Microsoft execs as recently as this month are still talking about their fantastic repair service for the faulty 360 hardware

* The increasing focus on moving Xbox tech and services to Vista

* HD-DVD has died in the markeplace so the 360 no longer serves any purpose in trying to derail BluRay

It has been six years and 7 billion dollars wasted. The 360 is selling to almost the exact same almost entirely US based gamers as last gen. The 360 is dead in Japan, and dead all across Europe outside of the UK.

The first Xbox was a braindead and brute force piece of hardware that had to be pulled from the market just four years into its life due to the insanely high manufacturing costs. The 360 is the most defective piece of console hardware ever made by a gigantic margin.

Console hardware obviously is an area that even after six years Microsoft still is absolutely incompetent in designing and manufacturing.

The silly fanboy talk of Microsoft being willing to throw any amount of cash at the Xbox and the billions in losses as nothing more than 'pocket change' are about to get a harsh lesson in business reality.

Dumping the console hardware and focusing on Vista exclusive gaming is really Microsoft's only option now outside of just dumping the entire Xbox mess. Microsoft no longer has to waste billions on making hardware where they have no competence. PC developers no longer have to try to compete with real console developers and can instead continue to work on x86 hardware.

It will be a healthy move for everyone. Microsoft can focus on just North American pc orientated gamers. Nintendo and Sony fans no longer have to deal with the cancerous and corrosive presence of Microsoft and its fans on console messageboard and review sites like 1Up and other cesspools of Xbox fanboyism.

FirstknighT3325d ago

Wow talk about being misinformed. Are you just talking out of your ass? The xbox gaming division has finally been seeing success. Software sales is what makes the real $$$ and the 360 is second to none. Many recent games have easily hit the million sale mark. That's what counts.

The ps3 on the other hand is having a hard time hitting the million sale mark. In fact alot of their big games haven't even hit half a million. The majority of the ps3s gaming library are huge sales flops. Big budget games that have failed miserably. If this keeps up...their won't be a ps4.

BLaZiN PRopHeT3325d ago

dude your a moron. and it would take way too much time to break down why your wrong. just know that your are very wrong.

power of Green 3325d ago (Edited 3325d ago )

U fanboys are crazzy. You wouldn't know anything about the casuals gamers on the Xbox platforn anyways because the casual gamers turn into hardcore gamers or become mixed in and un-noticed. lol

#2, Thats some crazzy sh*t you're talking about.

EDIT: Below... Valid points? you mean like the myths they speak of-

*360 has no 2008 lineup(lots of games are comming)...

*360 has nothing but shooters(the ratio actually says otherwise/opisite)...

*360 has nothing but hardcore gamers(only 8 million out 15 million are connected as if thats the way to tell the base is just hardcore, the mix helps the attach rate for sure but the games are top-notch and hardcores/average/ casuals gamers all help with it).

EDIT: #2 Blitzed... My name has nothing to do with the Xbox's theme color fool lol.

((((Blitzed)))) your right it always makes sense when PS3 fanboys try to find anti 360 fud to post and or chase 360 fans into 360 posts only to call people that are trying to use common sense fanboys in there own threads lol.

Trolls trying to call 360 fans out in 360 threads don't make us laugh. Moron... See ya.

Mr_Kuwabara3325d ago

He actually said some valid points instead of just saying "crazzy" like you seem to keep on repeating.

Blitzed3325d ago (Edited 3325d ago )

You gotta love when a guy named Power of Green calls others 'fanboys'. You are so delusional its scary (not that I agree with CerulanSky but at least it was a thought out argument). I don't know what to make of your comment, I am still trying to figure it out. Are you trying to say the 100+ million that bought the PS2 were hardcore gamers or went unnoticed? I guess it doesn't matter as both conclusions just show your delusions. I think somewhere along the line this console war has taken its toll on you, you've lost it dude!

*EDIT- @POG I guess your avatar doesn't either. Gimme a break, are you trying to say you are not a fanboy?! Please say it so we can all have a laugh. LOL And you call me a fool...

EDIT2- POG, I still don't have ANY idea what you are talking about. I'm serious, are you mentally challenged, because if you are I'm sorry for picking on you. I'm talking about you, one of the biggest bias fanboys on this site calling others 'fanboys', its delusional. Again, I am not defending CeruleanSky, I didn't agree with his post, your right, its fanboy FUD. The same crap you post in PS3 threads. So, what are you going on about, you do know you are a fanboy (actually a FUD spreading, thread trolling fanboy) don't you? And when you say 'us' I hope you are not trying to speak for 360 fans, I'm sure the majority of them would not appreciate being associated with the likes of you. But you go ahead and keep calling me moron, if you think that disguises how ridiculous you sound.

**And where the F**K do you of all people, get off calling me a troll!! Until just recently I owned a 360, and unlike you who has to ask mommy and daddy for money, I can afford to re-purchase one when I choose. I keep up to date with all gaming news so I can make informed purchases, not so I can try to spin news to satisfy my strange obsession with a piece of hardware.

jack who3325d ago (Edited 3325d ago )

i love how they say Nintendo is the leader cuzz of how much the wii hardware is sellin....but in the other hand there software sale is crap....but looking at the 360 it got hardware sale and a big software sale but Nintendo is the leader yeah ok......

rofl "Microsoft getting ready to leave the console market sometime in 2008."

this is just ...................!!!!

HarryEtTubMan3325d ago

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Where's TheMart when u want him to be here.

IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THE WHOLE XBOX 360 IS ON QUICKSAND.

Mass Effect Series
Bizarre Ceartions racin franchises (prodject Gotham)
Gears of War 3

^^^^^ALL COMING TO THE PLAYSTATOIN 3 HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA PLUS BUNGIE GAMES HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA MICROSFT DOESNT HAVE SHAT COMING HAHAHAHAHAHHA HALO WARS!!!! HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA YOU STUPID BOTS. YOU HAVE ALREADY LOST. MICHEAL PATCHER KNOWS IT. YOU WONT EVEN COME CLOSE TO BEATING THE ALMIHGTY SONT OVER THE NEXY 9 YEARS. GEARS 3 ON PS3 HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. BUNGIE GAMES ON PS3 HAHAHAHAHHA. PLUS U DONT GET FF13 AND VS. KILLZONE 2, MGS 4, LITTLE BIG PLANET, GRAN TURISMO 5, HAZE, UNREAL TOURNAMENT 3, HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA PLAYSTATOIN HOME, SONT SAID PSN WILL HAVE EVERYTHING THINK XBOX LIVE DOES BY NEXT YEAR HAHAHAHAHA IT SOUND LIKE MICROSFT IS ABOUT TO GIVE UP HAHAHAHAHA BUT ENJOY NINJA GAIDEN 2 AND HALO WARS......WHILE U HAVE THEM!

MASS EFFECT(ACTIVISION) FTW! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

aaquib53325d ago

Let software and hardware sales speak for themself. PS3 is barely selling consoles, and they are barely selling games. Microsoft is doing both, and even with some rough cases, they're still managing to outsell 360 by nearly 2:1, with software nearly 4:1

Captain Tuttle3325d ago

You're not even in Bill Gates's league.

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