Sony Computer Entertainment has acknowledged that in-game integration of the PS3's Cross Media Bar (XMB) is one of the console's most requested features.
Thats good so they acknowledged it.
how long has it been already? C'mon Sony.
THEN GIVE US IT!!!
yeaah!! Then why are they so hesitant to give it to us!!! Eric Lempel should get fired and sony should get someone who acts on what people want, not what they want us to get
In fact I think this was addressed on the official blog, but it was never PROMISED.
All of you that keep EXPECTING this crap to show up on every single FW update are only torturing yourselves.
Be pi*sed when they announce it and then it doesn't come...but until then, we can complain for it not being there, but it's foolish to complain as if Sony's doing us dirty and lying about things.
The thing is that it shouldn't be hard to implement, Resistance have already done this along with many other features which other games and Sony are yet to take up.
Simple fact is, if they know we want it then give it to us, don't tempt us with great games but no way of asking people to join you in one unless you leave the game, send the message and then enter the game again.
Messaging is a great feature for a console, but if you can't respond to messages WHILE gaming then the message feature is more like email instead of IM (chat).
Messaging while playing a game and chat function is an awsome feature to have. I really want to see Sony impliment this. It can't be that hard to do with the level of tech power in the PS3.
Keep on playing B3HIND.
I guess the reason it hasn't been implemented yet is that it'll take up memory which in turn will make games run slower.
They're probably working on a solution that will interfere with the games the least. I hope they take their time and don't just rush something out to shut the people up quickly.
All they need to do is copy XBOX 360's version of it.
Not too hard surely?
If Resistance have it then I don't see why Sony can't implement it the same.
they had about 2 years since it use to be in the PS3s (2005 I believe) and they took it out for some reason..... o_0......
Its useless and a waste of memory on the ps3.Just quit the game and message someone.
They should just rip 360's in-game interface and give it a more PS3 feel.
If need be, just give me in-game Friends and Music. I'll be fine with that.
If I can see when people log-in and log-out, and if I can see when I receive a message in-game, then there's surely some way of expanding that existing "feature" and letting me respond without exitting a game.
If they use the 360 as a model (and this is not to say look at what one console can do and the other can't .. but just saying it is a good model to follow since it works very very well), outside a game you have access to ALL. (ie video, settings, media controls, etc, etc, etc)
But While playing, all you really need access to is ....
- access to your music you want playing as you play.
- Messaging (text or voice) .. I also like the access to MSN as well.
- Chat channels you can switch between (4 private and the game channel)
These features are very very usefull and hard to do without once you are use to them. And on the 360 it has ZERO IMPACT on game performance. I mean MS is doing it right now, so it is not asking for to much. So the powerhouse the PS3 is, I don't see the issue.
PLEASE SONY ... come on .... we know you can do it. It should have gotten it during the last FW update.
Outspoken, if you think this type of functionality is USELESS, wow .. all I can say is .... TRY IT OUT and think about the doors it opens to the console in respect to communications and friends interaction.
Friend 1: Playing RFOM in single player / multiplayer game
Friend 2: Pops online and want to play UT3
Friend 2: Sends a message to friend 1 while he is IN GAME PLAYING and asked if he wants to play UT3 with him.
Friend 1: WITHOUT ENDING GAME, can now respond back to Friend 2 to say, "Give me 20 minutes and I will hook up with you"
Friends 2: Replies back to Friend 1 and says, "Cool see you in 20"
Friend 1: Send a chat request to friend 2 while he is still playing.
Friend 2: accepts chat request and both are now chatting away about everything and nothing (ie game on the way for 2008, a chick he is looking to get with, the new car he bought .. whatever) while Friend 1 plays RFOM and Friend 2 plays UT3. After about 20 minutes, friend 1 tells friend 2 to send him and invite to the UT3 game (online or co-op) and then they start playing together..
The entire time Friend 1 or friend 2 did not have to end or leave his game in any way shape or form.
HOW can you not see that function on the PS3 usefull. It would be AWSOME.
As I said, I really thought (as did many others) this would have been in the FW v2 update along with being able to play my MP3's while I am in game. I really hope this function is not to far away. I am sure it will tie into HOME. I am 95% set on getting a PS3 this holiday with the good price and nice games finally out. BUT .. if they would have put this function into the PS3 from the start, I would already have one.
Lol i am sorry but your an idiot man........really.
We know they've been working on it ever since Phil Harrison demonstrated it in March 2006! Yes, that's March 2006, prior to the PS3's launch. We've been hearing "We're listening to the consumers" ever since PS3's launch, but Im not ever going to be satisifed until they give us a firm date. It's just music, and messaging, why is that so hard to implement? Some days I really feel like Sony needs to fire their PSN team and hire some of XBL's.
I do no know if it needs to come to that, but they defintely need too get feature s like this. Honestly they should have already had this feature originally at launch.
Let me say this. I really enjoy the fact that I can be playing a game of Gears of War online and be abe to listen to some "linkin Park" or if I die early I cn see who else is on live and chat with them or message them (instant message too), even video chat is available. Being able to have the freedo to do several diffrent features while playing a campgain or multiplayer match is awesome.
PSN needs to have it's own identity and it does, but if something works on another platform or product, I say embrace it and give the consumers what they want. PSN has improved and still will improve greatly I believe. It;s shaping up to be a good service, but having to exit out of a game to access other features is dissapointing,
Let me get this straight. You can't listen you own music while playing games on the PS3? I thought they fixed that a long time ago?
I listen to music streaming from a huge library on my computer's hard disk while playing 360 games. I can even access play lists created in Media Player. I hate the urban music that comes with most games!
Hopefully they will fix this before the full version of GT5 is released. I was planning to buy a PS3 at that point.
to be completely honest.
Who knows it may be a Christmas present from Sony
But they should set a date so that I know when to pick up a PS3.
This is what i really want if it doesnt come in the next update which may be this month im gonna be pissed
I have yet to get the ps3 but I am wondering why is this a "wanted" feature so badly? I often forget that my 360 lets me bring up the media player to listen to my own music in arcade games. Or see which friends are online but that is something that I dont take advantage of so ...why is this a big thing for PS3?
And your brother in college in another State hops online and messages you. "Play Warhawk CTF with me.
You can't read the message, you just know you've gotten one from your brother. You have to quit the dam game, read the message to play the game you were already playing, REload the game, and then go to an in-game buddy list that access your Friends list from PS3 memory and hook up. (Even then you can't message, you can just join whatever game he's playing).
Messaging should be a universal feature that Sony provides, take the option from game developers and give it to us at the CONSOLE layer.
i really want to play uncharted,warhawk,and resitance with my own soundtrack thats why i want it and imagine the internet browser in gane if its the whole xmb
Sony knows you want in-game XMB NOW!!!
that would be nice!!! My music in pes .. . hm
And it will not eat up more memory. They reserved enough space for it in the OS footprint. All they most probably still need to do is to ensure that it does not cause slowdown during gameplay - or glitches - like the information bar did when switched on. Simple as that.
It is a tricky thing to program - because you have a service in the background - that must be available - and you don't want it to interfere with another program (the game running) in terms of hardware threads etc - yet you want it to be accessible.
I am certain when it is done - we will see quite a bit of patches from the games out there already to activate the in game XMB functionality. And from there on we will see it standard with all games - seamless - consistent - benefiting from every firmware update enhancement etc.
They followed a better strategy in my opinion. A bit late with it - but that is just something we have to grin and bear. Just don't give us something that will RRoD or BSoD - like some other companies do.
lol you can try to toss a little low blow in the end there but..guess what xbox live has had this for a long time now so grow up.
How can you even call this a better strategy....thats how brainwashed some of you really are...there is no reason that they dont have it and hopfully they will step up and finally deliver it
in-game XMB should be out between CHRISTmas and March. At least that's what I am hoping.
dude sony is just making sure it does not mess with ur game make anything slow or anything, and damn if it is that damn important to u complain to the damn developers, we have seen they can do it too. all sonys ingame does is just make it where the old games have ingame and where developers dont have to do it
It's gonna come in the next firmware update along w/ DivX Support, Home, and PlayTV, etc.
Really thought it would have been included in last FW update.
cuz u belived in the hype of 2.00 and it did not come, next time dont belive the hype and the rumors then u wont be dissiponted
I hate more having to download a demo and then intall the demo. what the hell is this?. A computer!. Please fix this. But maybe is me. I get desperate waiting for anything.
yeah prowiew, I hate having to INSTALL demos an updates AFTER I download them!! the last update from XBL took less that 15 seconds, the updates from the PSN usually take about 15 minutes to download, then I have to install after that. also I dont think the PS3 has enough memory to allow the XMB to run in the background!! thats why they leave it up to the developer to use this feature just like with CHAT!! if they can build their game an have the available memory to make chat an or in game XMB work then fine, but if not then it wont be there. why do you think they cut the chat features out of the PS3 version of blacksite!! this is how it is, with MS alot of those features are built into the CONSOLE with sony those features has to be built into the GAME.
We all know that Sony knows that gamers want it. The real question is how they do it?
With the xbox 360 is different since Microsoft build the xbox 360 to have these features from day 1... they allocated the memory and resources required to make this work before any game was ever made...
With the PS3 is different... Sony has the problem of adding this feature without affect the existing games..
True Sony can lower the ammount of memory that developers can use in future games in order to make room for these features... but what will happen to the already existing games that are using that memory?
You see... games are made to take advantage of the maximun available system resources... what will happen if this features required 20-30MB of system memory to be used? what will happened to those games designed to use that memory? Will they have to redisign and repatch their games? Unless Sony reserve that memory before hand.. this will be very difficult... maybe they did... but if they did... then why after one year they have not delivered the most requested feature?
you forget that the PS3 is assumed to use between 60 to 90MB of RAM just to run their OS and other features and as of right now their OS is pretty basic, so anybody who knows about memory will tell you that 60 to 90MB of ram for what they are offering now is way to much. So looks like they have already taken future upgrades to the OS into consideration they are just having an issue with implentation.
yep they know i want in game xmb
it wont happen, they can recognize but its not gonna happen atleast not any time soon, and for all the reasons bladestar mentioned.
XMB in game,better mic support,better wireless controller conectivity,and game upscale to 1080i for those without 720p hdtv's
High Velocity Bowling is the latest example but most games haven't.
Sony needs to make it compulsoary for all game developers to include minimal ingame xmb, music, chat etc.
A GameOS implementation of ingame xmb menus would be a major undertaking - that's why it's taking sony so long.
Just easier to lay down the rule that all new games must have ingame access to xmb.
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