Burnout happens to be the only racing franchise to enjoy anymore. The intense realism of Gran Turismo or even Forza is too much to handle.
what panty wearing fruit bag would say driving a car on a race track compared to going full speed sideways on city streets is more intense...
Last time i check Burnout is intense and GT5 has turn markers on the real life race tracks.
I find GT relaxing
I actually am getting VERY BORED of games like GT and Forza... this extreme realism is not that fun... hell i drive a real car all day damnit... thats why like PGR... looks real... feels kinda real.. but its totally arcadey.
BurnOut is enjoyable because it is riduculous... so I get where the blogger is coming from
Its the other way around. lol
Yea I though forza was more realistic than gt.
You've never played GT have you, POG?
Or if you did, you probably didn't even put it in simulator mode.
Rofl you've probably never played forza 2 then :). Its very realistic I would definitely more than the gt hd demo.
I've played forza on a friend's 360.
I'm also really sad that After Touch is gone. It was among my very fave Burnout elements :(
yeah that sucks, on my first crash i tried to hold the button for aftertouch so i can make a big traffic jam...nope lol:(
it gives u a reason to crash rather than try to beat the race and the competitors!
i liked burnout 2 better than 3 and the other one!
i never played the third one. did any of you try Paradise online? it really ads a lot to the experience. I'm actually enjoying the demo more than the previous games.
Paradise online is probably my favorite online experience on the PS3 right now. I can't wait for the full version with 8 players. God damn it's going to be sweet.
"zollner13" on PSN if anyone's looking to race or just crash into each other.
Definitely, I played all night last night until 4am playing the Burnout demo online with my friends. I can't wait for the 8 people max instead of 4 in the full game, I had friends sending me invites left and right, but the room was full! Anyway I love the crashes, more realistic than Motorstorm, amazingly...
And this is Why game are dumbed down to please idiots like this.
That Burnout demo is a monster. I enjoy playing it. The open end nature is pretty cool. I just wish it had the Blur effects like NFSMW during the nitro bursts. The crashes are magnificent. I Tin can my ride up going full speed into a wall and was shookingup like i was in the front seat. Forza is more relaxing are requires you to focus during grueling races.
what a girl pants
Forza 2 drives like an arcade racer compared to Gran Turismo 5 prologue.
I think not... obviously you have never driven, nor know anything about car setups in real life..
Disagree all you want, am only telling it like it is.
Am not knocking GT 5.. its a stunning game, but its plain stupid to say that it is as in depth as Forza 2.
The online play makes this game it is good
I played all the racing games out there that are worth mentioning, on any console, i`m a true racing fanatic, and the best looking and best car handling of them lot is GTHD. I did`t play GT5P demo but i can only see it as an improvement to GTHD.
Burnout is one of the worst driving games i ever played, toghether with NFS. Forza2 is only averege, is not the best racing game but is not the worst either. This is my opinion anyway.
You guys who think The Real Driving Simulator (GT) actually is a sim have no idea what a sim is, Forza 2 is just about good enough to be called a sim, that and Richard Burns Rally are the only sims on consoles, GT is not a sim, never was, it's a semi-sim, and I only call it that because I can't think of a better way to describe it and that it's not a out and out arcade game like Burnout.
If you want to try a real car simulator, then you have no choice but to try rFactor, GTR 2 or Live For Speed on the PC.
You guys haven't got a clue, you try any of those and you would crash and crash if you treated the cars like you do in Gran Turismo.
Well guess what whitehawk, i played, Rfactor, GTR1&2, LIVE FOR SPEED, FORZA1&2, GT1&2&3&4, TOCA RACE DRIVER1&2&3, F1 most of them, most of the rally games that were worth taking a look at, and than most of the other driving games like N4S, BURNOUT, PGR.... This just what i can remember. And none looked as good or had as good car handling like GTHD. I`m not saying AI, or racing experience, i`m just saying looks and the way that the car feels when driven at high speeds.
.... and you have driven a car in real life at high speeds.. i think not!
Games are made to feel ok.. at high speed... try driving a real car at 160+ mph.. and then tell me it handles the same as most games you have played "rolls eyes"
ok first and foremost. i go to track days about three times a year with a group called speedventures.net in my 06 WRX and let me tell you. Forza isn't as natural feeling as GT5P. however, suffice to say there are things in GT5P that aren't as natural feeling as Forza. So arguing over which is better is pretty moot. However the main difference between GT5P and Forza is the drift physics. Forza's drift phsyics are hilariously unrealistic. It's too easy to drift. You can almost just tap the accelerator and keep countersteered and it just keeps staying sideways. Not as easy as GT3, but not as realistic as i'd hope. Now GT5P on the other hand, has great drift physics. Not exactly close to real either, nothing is. But man oh man it's fun drifting in GT and it seems PD really is perfecting it.
And to be honest, being a car enthusiast over a video gamer first. I'd play Forza 2 any day. But if it came to wanting a mature, all-out racing simulator. It goes to the GT series.
What the hell did you stuff in your pipe and smoke?
I have never owned (in real life) a high performance car, but I am experienced driving a high performance vehicle (1986 - Suzuki GS1150) that can compare to most cars in GT5 in terms of performance. (I crush Civic kitties, Stang gang, Acuras.)
I understand what it is like taking hard corners at 40 MPH on a couple millimeters of tread and then powering out with the chain driving the back tire into the pavement hard. The frontend becomes very light, your A$$ slides back on the seat, your arms stretch out from touqing from 40 to 120 in a few seconds, and if you are not mentally prepared you can easily scare the crap out of yourself or get hurt! GT5 from my experience is EXTREMELY realistic(for a video game). You don't have a clue what you are talking Whitehawk, sorry.
As far a GTR2 goes, I own it for the PC and it pretty much sucks. It is not even close to GT5 in terms of physics.
BTW, i'm not a PS fan boy. As a matter of fact GT5 is the first GT I have ever played. I have owned just about every single serious driving sim ever made for the PC, and absolutely NOTHING I have played even came close to GT5. I'm not going to disrespect Forza because I have never played it. I can tell you however that I have never loved a game that contained extensive tuning options (like GTR2).
What where you playing them with, a joypad?
Seriously, I have a 360, PS3, Wii, and a PC, I've tried GT5 Prologue (I have a Japanese account) and the car physics are the same as they always have been, semi realistic, not very realistic.
I've also played all the games you mentioned, though why you mentioned the Toca Race Driver series I don't know, all of those are even less realistic than the GT series is, no offence but I guess that just shows you don't know what realistic car physics is.
Apart from Forza 2 (Not Forza 1 as that wasn't good enough) and Richard Burns Rally (the only Rally game that is realistic enough to be called a simulation), only the PC sims I mentioned have realistic physics, if you can't see that, well thats a shame, guess the graphics are blinding you.
And you mean Forza2 has realistic car handling?! Ever try to do a scandinavian flick, there`s no weight transfer, or when you brake and turn in the same time the weight shifts forward, which means lots of grip to the front and very loose rear and you oversteer off the track. In forza2 all you get is understeer wether you brake or accelerate. The only way to oversteer is to accelerate hard in a RWD. Or when you drift and you try to collect the car you get the pendulum effect. None of that in Forza. GT might not have real handling but is the closest we got to reality, and is way better than forza.
Oh dear oh dear, yes I have done scandinavian flicks in Forza 2, there is one track with a load of hairpin turns that I had a lot of fun doing them on, not easy, easier in some cars than others, but very very possible. I did some power drifting in it too without spining out if I was careful which is realistic and I never had the pendulum effect, I guess you just need to know how to handle them.
Forza 2 could be better, and that's why I mention rFactor and the like, but boy is it much more realistic than GT, seriously dude, you have to be kidding.
And in case you didn't know, front wheel drive cars do tend to understeer more than rear wheel drive cars and if you think Forza 2 understeers too much that's because your used to the too much grip in GT and think you could go that fast around corners in the real cars.
FWD do tend to understeer more but at 100+mph when you turn sharply and brake in the same time rear end should still brake loose, and none of that in forza. And why when you watch a race on live the handling of the cars don`t look too realistic.
And about the pendulum effect i`m saying how comes you don`t get any in forza2. When you lose control all you have to do is just give it some opposite lock and you got total control. Every beginer can drift in forza2. No experience needed.
And last time i played GT was over 2 years ago. I just bought a PS3 a week ago and been playing GTHD. And i played forza2 to death, so i know all the pros and cons.
paradise sucks, its not even burnout now, its kinda like test drive 2
what were they thinking! bring back set tracks, aftertouch and traffic checking, even boosting doesnt have the crazy speed blur anymore! where is the fun!
before the demo this was a day one perchase, now its not even a hire
Which version did you play? Do you have a HDTV? A lot of people hate on these next gen games becuase they are still playing them on 25 inch square non HDTVs and on regular stereo systems. You need at least 5.1 or 7.1 sound and a 720p/1080i HDTV to enjoy any of these next gen games. And do not forget this is just a demo...the final version might have the blur effect...I though i saw traffic check in the game? Did you get the railroad tracks or the parking garage and practice drifting in the parking garage? I did that last night with a friend online...it was so cool. There is no other game like this out there. They took burnout to the next level. The online integration is better than any other game on the market.
Now since the world is so huge...i think the 8 player limit might be too small.
so much fun playing this demo on a hd tv .online seems to be the best part... me and a friend played for two hours straight ..was unreal ..but was lack a few features from the last ..but still i loved it !@
About the only thing that Gran Turismo and Burnout have in common is that you drive cars. The similarities pretty much end there. I like the Burnout demo a lot and I'll be picking the game up in January when it is released. I'll probably pass on Gran Turismo because the simulation aspect is something that I find boring and trite.
The more I play this demo the more I'm disappointed in it.. I just love the old Burnout forumla so much that this new one just doesn't feel right.. I'm still willing to give it a chance since Burnouts track record is so good and hopefully different cars and being able to fully play the whole game will make it better.
Like I said, I'm probably in the minority..
Lol the physics of forza 2 are miles ahead of GT. But in terms of graphics,its GT that wins hands down. But damn Forza has great physics.and the physics engine of fm2 will be better than those of gt5 too
Well everyone is entitled to theyr oppinions. As i said i played F2 to death, i made 970 points, but was a huge dissapointment, i was let down big time. So my only hope is granturismo.
i thought the demo was pretty cool and very shiny.
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