GB: "While the Wii U is completely capable of delivering glorious HD graphics, Nintendo doesn’t think it’s necessary for all Wii U games to be in full HD. They do not want to get stuck in a tech-based competition against their rivals."
I don't like the sound of that but Nintendo doesn't really need OMG graphics for their games. Theirs are more about gameplay. I just hope WiiU is more powerful than current hardware.
According to the reports, it's twice as powerful as the 360 (I think). As long as it's able to produce HD graphics, it'll be good enough for me, because as you said, Nintendo games have never been about their visuals (not technically speaking, at least. Artistically they're all awesome). But I can't wait to see how Zelda will look in HD. :D
not really because according to the rumors of the 360, the Wii U is 20% less powerfull than the next xbox, and the next xbox is supposed to be 6x more powerfull than current gen consoles.. It seems there was a significant bump im power for the WiiU with the latest dev kits, which is even better
Lol. A console that is suppose to be next gen should be able to make everything in hd with no problem. I can excuse older games but all new games should be in hd on the system. Even if the game is called pong evolution, it should be in hd Next gen starts when xbox next ps4-ver is released Let's hear the nes fanboys apologize for shoddy hardware
I see you like the PS4. I'm looking forward to it too! Just don't jump the gun and proclaim it the winning console when we don't know anything about it.
haha...typical of Nintendo to hold back the best from their fans. I swear if I don't see Metroid and Zelda in 1080P I'm not buying a wiiu Iwata!!!
If it can bell full blown HD, it should be. This sounds like an excuse for hardware limitations. The Wii U should be able to do this not be boggged down by limitations the PS3/360
Next gen starts when we say so. . .famous last words. Wii came along, weak as it is and became the most profitable console this generation and SONY are last in revenue, profits, software sales AND console sales too.
the same was said about this gen and developers could hardly reach 720p, lets at least wait to see what Sony and Microsoft actually do before talking so much nonsense. And about the topic, he is right, why would Wii Sports, Brain Age, or whatever casual game compilation should be pushing for the best visuals??? its obvious thats not the idea for those games... As for the real Nintendo franchises, Nintendo has always delivered amazing and beatiful graphics from an artistic point of view, and have pushed the console to the limits of what it can do, so i dont see why it would be diferent with WiiU
Wow you trolls don't even read the article. If you READ it, the article says that the WiiU WILL be able to do photorealistic graphics, but nintendo, some of their games are meant to be cartoonish, like rhythm heaven. Iwata says tho, that they'll use the HD graphics for games that can benefit from them, like Zelda. Instead of thinking of ways to bash people, take time to read the article and enlighten yourself,... you need it.
they already confirmed it is fully capable of 1080p graphics,he said it's not necessary for them to be in full hd.ps360 do not run games in full hd at the moment as it is
@ Bergoo Artistic, cartoonish-styled games will indeed benefit from native 1080p resolution over 720p/1080p upscaled ones. Bastion and Kingdoms of Amalur are a few examples. @ lionelglitchy you're right but we're talking about next gen not this one. Seems like an excuse in the making...
This might be too hard for you to understand but next-gen starts when the first next gen system comes out. so next gen starts this year... duh
@lorian, have a bubble. Well said.
@Colwyn You again lol, Wii u fail lmao, go read the article before you make a fool of yourself next time.
I've read where some developers said they could make a game look better by running it at a lower rez with more GFX/post processing options turned on then upscale the image. However, more often than not I bet not having a requirement that the WiiU games be presented in HD will be more of an "easy out" for devs than the ability to push the visual fidelity.
So a lot of indie devs will develop for Nintendo perhaps? So long as they don't clog up the system with shovelware like Carnival Games then I'm happy with it :)
Yes, I am positive that Indie devs are gonna use the new Nintendo machine as a new market to push their games. As a matter of fact I think the Nintendo machine will be the first to gain massive indie titles akin to smarthphone/iPhone games.
nobody reads the articles anymore.
Nintendo is already giving up
Well Nintendo used to have nice hardware...SNES, n64, GC were all more powerful than competitors afaik. Not sure what happened with the Wii...
The GameCube was more powerful than the original Xbox fluffy?
@Fluffy I'll tell you what happened. They no longer could rely on graphics to enrich gameplay experiences, as well as development costs going up. Think about it. The NES is naturally a leap over game like Atari because of the graphics that allowed games like Mario. The Super Nintendo enabled Mode 7 which allowed Pseudo 3D graphics for games like Starfox and Mario Kart, but also worked well to make games like Donkey Kong Country happen. N64 - This one is easy. 3D gaming. That is all. But by the Gamecube era they could not innovate anymore with just sheer horsepower alone. Sure they tried, but we all know what happened that Generation. PS2 happened. If they could not create great experiences with graphics, then they would have to do it another way. Hence--the Wii. It also kida follows Gunpei Yokoi's philosophy of "Lateral thinking through Withered Technology", which is kinda why gameplay nowadays plays higher precedent in their newer systems than graphics. TL;DR: Graphics pushed gameplay along. Once Graphics got to a point of not doing so, Innovation through hardware took front and center.
If this true, I'll buy it for the right price to complement my gaming PC/Ps3/360.....but i need some info first.
Then WTF is the point.
Classic strategy. Lower people's expectations so they don't set your standards to high. 'It will look nice, not as nice as a PS3 game, but it will look nice anyway' If the PS4 and next gen Xbox come out with higher level graphics and power, the 'graphics and power are not important excuses' will start again.
Money, Money,Money, MONAAAAY!!
Read the article...then you will see the point.
I just sunk in my seat with palm to the face at this!
Kiss your HD Zelda goodbye. Apparently, Nintendo just doesn't have the budget anymore to support first party exclusive with full blown HD that would cost them over 50M+ in the development process. They are just going to rely on 3rd party exclusive or multi platform to do HD graphics. Stock holders and losses really hurt Nintendo's financial this gen.
ONE year of loss out of 6 years this entire generation and somehow their finances were hurt this gen? Come on, don't be ridiculous. Sony on the other hand have had only ONE full year of profits on the PS3 and 5 of loss and I don't see you saying their finances are hurting. . .although 4 straight years of loss for the company as a whole says they are. It Makes Gaming Cents
Sony's been profiting on the PS3 since what, 2008? If you're meaning they hadn't recouped their losses yet, you're probably right. And, unlike Nintendo, Sony has many MANY divisions; of them, the Playstation brand- of which Sony is a part- is currently the MOST profitable. And that's WITH the PS3 being priced as low as it is.
However, he thinks there are several franchises that will benefit from Wii U’s HD capabilities, like Zelda. “As I mentioned, it is true that, in some software areas, we need to be engaged in the power games. “Take The Legend of Zelda franchise, for example, the fans must be looking for the graphic representations that they do not see as cheap at all when the title is released for the Wii U. When it is necessary, we do not hesitate to role out our resources.”
If you're trying to sell us a console with HD graphics in full blown 1080p, you dont just go back on that. So yes. I think they do if you want to sell a console like this.
He's saying some, not all. Can we not be that close-minded? It's that kind of thinking that gave the world Bomberman Act Zero.
A HD console trying to support HD games should only have HD games, or else reviewers and gamers aren't going to get the console: Is it HD or isn't it?
@Kran That had nothing to do with the article at all. He said not all games require amazing graphics. Simply rendered games like the Mii-centric games. How about you read the article and stop taking the headline out of context?
Maybe you will understand it like this. Lets look at mario imagine him realistically a fatman with a mustache in a red-blue suit.................. you figure out the rest on how bad it would be o.o
Then maybe it would be a sign for nintendo to realize that character image isnt going to work any more.
I am sorry but Nintendo has been in competition since the release of the first NES their rivals were Sega and Atari. And who ever else built a console back then. Today people like the rich crisp graphics of HD and the crisp line along with an interesting story behind the game I like saying holy shit this game looks great. And now with the Kinnect and the Move both Sony and Microsoft had tapped into a market Nintendo was great at the casual game. I am sad their might not be an HD version of Zelda, or Metroid. But Nintendo needs to quit sniffing the flowers and push the Wii-U and bring in some titles that don't revolve around a plumber. Nintendo needs to makes games that are like Gears of War or like Uncharted that speak out to the customer. Don't get me wrong I love Nintendos titles but if I can play a few games Like Batman Arkham city on the Wii-U and I have to play it on PS4 then whats the use of calling the Wii-U a next gen console when all I can play is Mario Party on it. Nintendo needs to rev up the Wii-U or they will get left in the dark again like they have with the Wii.
Lol got left in the dark, DARK, bank vault with all that money they made. That's the problem with the ADHD generation!! It's all about the graphics and blood. I've been gaming since the atari days so, graphics take a back seat to a good story and gameplay!! I would tell you and everyone born after 1998 to go back and play the classics but you'd just say they were too childish for you lol!! Nintendo have always done things their way and they're the ones who've been in the game the longest so I think they know what they're doing.
I was born is 1998 but have played classics and i value gameplay/story more then graphics... my favorite game is Skyward Sword so be careful who you include in your generalization...
If the shoe fits then wear it. If not don't worry about it!
why would you create a powerful system, and then make such a retarded statement? If you have the power to make hd games, then use it! I swear, nintendo need to get with the times man. its 2012, not 1996, anything less than hd is uncivilised in todays world!
lol what is wrong with reading the article? Dude it says that they will use HD for the games that benefit from it, like zelda. They wont use photorealistic graphics for games such as rhythm heaven. I swear, people need to start reading the actual article instead of the title.
Uh, did you read the article? He said some games, not all. Why would you want photo-realism in a game like Rhythm Heaven?
there is a difference between photo realism and hd. rhythm heaven doesnt have to be photo realistic, but it should be hd on a hd capable console! stop justifying nintendos stupidy
However, he thinks there are several franchises that will benefit from Wii U’s HD capabilities, like Zelda. “As I mentioned, it is true that, in some software areas, we need to be engaged in the power games. “Take The Legend of Zelda franchise, for example, the fans must be looking for the graphic representations that they do not see as cheap at all when the title is released for the Wii U. When it is necessary, we do not hesitate to role out our resources.” people should read the full article and not just the headline
lol @ people disagreeing with reading the article instead of N4g post title.
if nintendo really wants this to be more than the "flash in the pan" success of the wii (even tho it was a very very big flash)then they better make sure that most games are crisp as can be. casual gamers may bring quick money but its the hardcore who will be the ones who keep a console "alive"
I'm sorry but for the next generation 1080p has to be standard.
Well if it was glorious high definition graphics with that controller I bet the price would be five hundred and ninety nine US dollars. $599
720p at the least please. Don't need 480p games in 2012.
Iwata needs to either be fired or learn how to keep his mouth shut.
why would u not put games in hd if u had the option no excuses
In other words, most of the games will just look like Wii games running through Dolphin. Great way to lose more face Nintendo
And again hardly anyone reads the article. He clearly states that in the need of high budget development, they will outsource the development team to meet their end goal. It's not about the resolution, but the fidelity of the assets. His point is that there isn't always a need for triple A budgets. Edit: Title is misleading. He completely adds a twist to it.
Read the article people.
Here we go again!!!
I couldnt not agree more... here we go again!!! Another person who stopped reading after the title.
*Reads the article* *looks at comments above* *Reads the article* *looks at comments above* Hmmm, never realized how many people wanted games like Rythym Thief in HD.
Seriously? Does no one read the article? Everyone jumps on the title and acts like Nintendo said they weren't going to make ANY HD games. They're just saying that some games have nothing to do with graphics (Brain Age or Wii Sports games for instance), so they won't be spending ridiculous amounts of money making those types of games HD when they don't need to be. Every game that you would expect to be HD will be (Zelda, Metroid, ect).
Its never a case of those games NOT being in HD, its just that they won't pour unneeded money into them.. to make em Uncharted levels of graphical details. Wii Sports HD will be HD.. but you won't see like individual blades of grass because it doesn't benefit the game.
There's also a mistake in the article. They say Rhythm Thief, when they really mean Rhythm Heaven.... When you look at the kind of graphics Rhythm Heaven has, you see what they mean.... http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Japanese name of the game I believe!!
Wow......so many comments from people that didn't read the article at all or just take certain things out of context and spin them around in their heads to make it seem like Nintendo isn't going to make 1080p resolutioned games with top notch graphics. Ok, for all you lazy people who refuse to read, for the Sony and Microsoft fanboys, for the Trolls and any other non Nintendo liking people here we go. Nintendo is saying that a game, for example "Rythm Heaven/Thief" is a game that never focused on graphics....it was a cartoonish looking game that was focused more on gameplay. So, if a game like that one "let's say a sequel" would appear on Wii-U, it would not have photo realistic graphics because improving the graphics to photo realism with 1080p would be pointless. That game does not need top notch HD graphics because its not ment to be a realistic looking game. But......when the next Zelda comes out they will be pushing the Wii-U's graphics to the limits because that's what Zelda fans would expect from that kind of series. Zelda will be a graphics powerhouse, it will be pushing 1080p and it will take advantage of everything the Wii-U has to offer. Nintendo is not looking for a way out or trying to say they can't compete or whatever other nonsense some of you are saying. Nintendo is the first ones pushing out a next gen console that can push 1080p graphics natively. So for people saying its not next gen your living in a dreamworld. We don't know the specs of the system but it is a fact that its stronger than PS3 and 360. So, when its released it will be the most powerful console out. Whatever Sony and MS do after that is up 2 them. If they want to match the Wii-U or try to out muscle it is up to those companies, but considering Sony has stated in the past their next gen system won't be a major leap from the PS3 don't expect so much from them. Its best to be on par,because history proves the weaker console always wins, so why invest in such major powerhouses and take huge losses the first few years when you can go less hi-tech and compete on the same level as your competitor. Nintendo will have at least a years headstart on the other two and are pretty much forcing the other 2 to jump into the next gen even though it appears they weren't and aren't ready to. Sony invested a lot of money in Move and are trying to focus on Vita and MS invested a lot in Kinect. Its not so easy to say let's skip that 10 year lifespan and just go at Nintendo. Nintendo was smart and stuck to their 5 year lifespan and are ready to start again. Now, the other 2 have to play catch up and if the tablet controller takes off like the Wii remote, they will be struggling to keep up once again.