Time travel and trademark visual flair and can't mask a disappointingly formulaic entry in the series.
Proves how Square Enix have messed up big time with the series. I guess that's what we get when a Japanese franchise tries hard to cater for western audience. Oh well, at least there's still some hope with Versus - if it ever comes out!
fishing for hits? again?
A site is "fishing for hits" just because they didn't automatically give a Final Fantasy game a good score? WTF? Gaming sites just can't win. If they give a game a good score, they are accused of being biased. If they give a game a bad score, they are accused of fishing for hits.
I can't seem to understand why SE decided to use characters that no one really cares about on a sequel to the game that was boring and crap to begin with?! Why didn't they just stick with strickly lighting as the main character instead?! I hear this ff game is just about over 20hrs long?!! Wtf?! Most ff games I played usually clock in at about 40hrs at least!
I'm not a huge fan of FF but I don't think it deserve a 5 when many other sites give it at least an 8! plus, this is EDGE we are talking about, they are infamous for this type of behavior!
Honestly... What did you expect from Edge? Like seriously.. Its higher than I expected from Edge. TBH.
"I can't seem to understand why SE decided to use characters that no one really cares about on a sequel to the game that was boring and crap to begin with?!" NGL, I'd play the hell out of a game starring Sazh. He's an under-appreciated character imo.
A 5/10 is still too high for this game, this game shouldnt never have been made in the first place, nobody asked for this game. While FFX got a sequel just becoz it was so great and fans screamed for it. Desperation Squeenix, desperation, pathetic to give us something we never wanted.
Fishing for hits? Nabro. This game just sucks, period. Why did they even make this garbage? No one asked for it. Instead of making this stupid crap, can't SE focus on FFv13? Well whatever, I just hope my GRANDSON'S KIDS enjoys FFv13 on the Playstation 9.
no they must tink is that shiti
@Tameel1 EXACTLY correct. Ugh. @defenders of the game and whiners about the score. Why is someone "fishing for hits" when they review FF13-2 the same way they reviewed FF13? Why is a bunch of other, more positive reviews suddenly "proof" that their opinion is "wrong"? Did you not learn the difference between fact and opinion in elementary school? Do you not realize there are a LOT of people that will find Final Fantasy 13-2 "just OK"? After what happened to the first game, is that REALLY a suprise? That shouldn't surprise anyone. Heck, in Japan, the game has been out for 6 weeks and still hasn't hit the 1st weekend sales of the first game. It's at barely over half (about 780k compared to a little over 1.5 mil). Yeah. People fighting this news are just struggling to come to grips with the fact that they like a game that not EVERYone is going to enjoy. Congratulations, we are humans.
I'll set the record straight here: I'm not defending the game in any way possible! it's just that I think 5/10 is too low! "Why is someone "fishing for hits" when they review FF13-2 the same way they reviewed FF13?" - they were also fishing for hits back then, so... I agree that this is their opinion, but I'm not obliged to agree with it! "just OK"? ask anybody here if they think 5/10 is = "just OK"! just OK is more like between 7 and 8! 5 is pretty much CRAP! sales dictate the score now? since when? so CoD is 10/10 since it sales the most, right? pfft
1) 5 is average. This idea is the minority but it's not unheard of. There are whole websites that use this practice, RPGLand and PlayStation LifeStyle among them. Many other places use 3/5 as Average (60%), such as RPGamer and Game Revolution. 2) I didn't say you have to agree with it, but LOOK at what you turn around and say. You force your opinion on someone and say "5 is too low!" Obviously it's not too low to the people giving it that score. 3) Sales do not dictate a score. I am using sales to demonstrate that this game is not desirable to a whole lot of people. These are people who didn't like FF13.
@badz149 an 8 is not "just OK" an 8 usually implies a pretty great title... Thinking like yours is why game reviewers can't win and why too many games are rated 9 and 10's when they bring nothing new to the table. And before you say "5 is just too low" perhaps you should try playing the game?
Funny how you trolls flock to the low scores the game gets but when it gets a 9 or 8 you just ignore it.
'cater to western audiences'? dude i see nothing in this game that can relate to european/western taste. this is a full-on JRPG. the only (well i was able to emerge myself with ff 4 and 6) and last FF i was able to relate to was FF8 the characters/story were believable in that game
To Put this in prospective, Edge also gave the incredible Final Fantasy X a 6/10. So This doesn't really mean too much.
. The same score with the first XIII, albeit it's not that "linear" again... : |
I kind of enjoyed FFXIII but the linearity not so much.
I hope square takes this as a wake up call.
what wake up call? you mean the fact that it got the same score as the first from this site and that it will sell millions and have an average score of around 84? Out of the 15 or so games this gen with the ff name in it most of them have been great in fact I am knee deep in 2 ff type zero and 13-2 so far 13-2 is at an 80 percent from game rankings @disagreers truth stings huh? @rage you proved my point that only idiots are posting ( no offense only when it comes to ff) On average its been getting the same scores ( some outliers, mostly 8-9). Couple that with amazing sales for a side game on a system in japan with a low install base. Hell in japans largest retailer it was the third highest selling game of the year and they only had about a month of data on it. Its preorders in the US are much higher. Saying anything that by the end of its life will sell over 2 million copies is ridiculous. @nookies12 I agree its about the worst ff ive played ( 13) but its still a good solid game. I just dont see the need to complain @drekken dragon quest IV,V,VI remakes ( 2 of which are first time in the US) draogn quest joker 1 and 2 valkyrie profile covenant twenwy kingdom hearts ddd 4 warriors of light revant wings ff tactics advance 2 crisis core ff type zero The list goes on and on. I can go about 40 games deep of awesome titles squares been apart of Which is why theyve hit profit records 3 seperate years this gen What your doing is generalizing and twisting my words.
On average it's been getting lower scores so far and couple that with the disappointing sales.
Let's just put it this way, that I'm sure just about everyone can agree on... It's not up to Final Fantasy standards, period. It can be a good game, it can be a great game, but it's not up to the FF name.
You are absolutely delirious. Square couldn't make a good game to save their life this gen. I see you base your "opinion" on game reviews which are all swayed by swag and teenage-girl-like-hype. These journalists lately don't deserve one bit of respect and neither do their game scores. Millions of people are buying Kinect adventures too... I guess that means its good. I got a change to see that abomination in action this week and its worse than I imagined.
Dragon quest is NOT made by S-E/ I dunno if they publish or whatever, but the don't develop it. Just sayign anyway, I hope the sales speak this time around anyway, hopefully it'll sell alot worse than FFXiii
Final Fantasy XIII sold mostly on HYPE and brand-recognition. Not on quality. Many who bought the game, were reporting within weeks how disappointed they were with the game. I doubt THOSE gamers will now jump on FFXIII-2 again. Personally, I might check out the asian release of this game cause it's the only version that will have the original language WITH english subs. I have ZERO interest in the dubbed western release. IF I decide to buy it though, it will be later in the year when it's in the bargainbins. It seems all the talent has left Square these last few years. I would be more excited about the announcement of a HD port of Xenoblade Chronicles coming to 360/PS3, than I would be of the announcement of a new Square-game.
A 5/10 is what the game deserves. 13-2 is going to sell less than 13 because this time people know they are buying a crap game. I bought 13 despite people telling me that I wouldn't like it. This time around I know what I'm dealing with and will not be buying the game at all... I know there are others out there that feel the same way I do. And I find it hilarious that you base whether a game is good or bad off Review Scores and Sales. And that 80 it currently has will drop.
its score is at 79 right now dude lol
This new iteration of FF does not sound sufficiently different from FFXIII. i never thought the day would come when Id pass altogether on a brand new FF title, but it has. sad this..
I totally agree. Who knew the day a new final fantasy game would be released and the majority of interest in it is practically zero. Thats pretty sad.
Best FF13-2 review I've ever seen
EDGE is harsh, but they don't give games scores like many other critics, they rate games on a 1 to 10 scale of averageness, 1 = bad, 5 = average and 10 = perfect. so really all EGDE is saying is that FFXIII-2 is just average! whereas a 5/10 from IGN, for example, would be classed as an abomintation.
Hmmmm, i do think its a bit of a coincidence that 13 and 13-2 both got 5/10 from edge, there is definitely an improvement over the linear story in 13 so why on earth its given the same score is just incredibly stupid, ignorant much? Then again, EDGE gave MW3 a 9/10 sooooo ...................... -_-
You can ask that same question with IGN who gave Final Fantasy XIII an 8.9. Then when XIII-2 comes out, their whole review was on how much better XIII-2 was better than their predecessor. Yet they gave XIII-2 an 8.0
it's better gameplay but it said ( Like everyone else ) that the story is disapointing .. It's a good game with a disapointing story ..GOT It ? Seeing how i enjoy the battle system i'm gonna get it ..
"As an experiment, we left Serah and company to fend for themselves over the course of ten battles, with no player input. With an idle player character and two AI companions set up to attack and heal, our party emerged victorious from every fight." I'm aware about the cliché nature of this statement, but I also feel like it is unavoidable righ now: - Wow...
Dammit it's bad let's call the cops ..the AI is good enough to stand on it own ... what a failure SE !! /s Not to mention that you can be overpowered like crazy this time For the haters : you can do the same thing in star ocean & Tales of or even in FF12 with the right gambits
The problem I have with this: no context. They could have been fighting weak shit, for all we know. The same thing was possible in XII, and virtually ANY .hack. Hell, I'd venture to say that any non-turn-based rpg where you didn't HAVE to control your characters would result in the same, depending on the opponent. Hell, Persona 4 is turn based, but you don't HAVE to control your other characters; go into a battle and just have your character sit there, and assuming you're not outclassed, you'll win four straight battles, too. So not only is there no context for WHEN they conducted their experiment, but they also neglect to mention that the results are not unique to the title. Whatever. I'll be taking my copy home tonight, and I'll judge for myself whether or not it was worth the money.
I can't believe... for the first time in years, i agree with Edge O_o Well, i would give maybe a 6 but... mh...
It's funny that the site gives it the score it deserves and we don't see the usual FF13 fans on here trying to defend the crap out of this game and bash other peoples opinions for having a negative opinion.
People who likes FFXIII around here called this eons ago so why would most bother ? They knew the game would be trashed no matter what by many , so dont even care much at this point . They would only bother if the game outsold expectations wich were unlikely , so people would be eating crows and yelling curses and damnation at the game even more . Besides you got things in a pretty funny reverse . People liking the game are the minority on this site , and their fandom of FFXIII as a whole is even questioned whenever they dare state they enjoyed the game , and they are the one lambasting and bashing ?
"fandom of FF" obviously
Don't care what edge says....
"As an experiment, we left Serah and company to fend for themselves over the course of ten battles, with no player input. With an idle player character and two AI companions set up to attack and heal, our party emerged victorious from every fight." That alone proves to me that this game is unworthy of a purchase and wow i'm even more surprised about Edge being brutally honest and not giving it a pass because its FF i at least can respect that.
Well below it's meta average. Edge knows this isn't PS3 exclusive, right?
we all know Edge is not a real reviewer.
Waaaaait a second, where's Ranma1 with his usual "BAWW FFXIII sucks" nonsense?
Having played through the entirety of FF13... Square is in dire trouble I don't need Edge to echo an obvious sentiment but a 5 is likely generous...
must fans of ff bought ff13 on day 1 blindly tinking that was a great ff game,most of thos fans dont want to hear about 13-2 or 13-3
While all you guys whine I will play and enjoy it. I am a FF fan since FF 7 and I also enjoyed FF 13. Most of the characters were deep as well as the story. I accept your opinions but I think it is quite fun that you think all "old" FF fans hate the newest. I like the change and I think the battle system is better than the old ones if you disable auto-battle. I think the Crisis Core/Birth By Sleep, battle system is the best though. I admit though that FF 13 is not as good as many of the old ones, but still pretty good.
Today`s Final Fantasy is pure garbage. Kinda funny really.
@Redempteur That's precisely the reason why I'm not getting it. Most people on here hate these games because they are not up to par with the rest of the classics. For me its more about preference. I loved the original squaresoft FF storylines, and the great character development that came with it. With games like this, I can't get into it without a good story. Otherwise I don't care about the characters. But like I said before to each is own.
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