Take a look at how the visuals in Snake Eater 3D stack up against MGS3 on PS3/360 (HD Collection) and the original PS2 collection.
actually pretty good comparison, still 3DS version will look better on smaller screen than on those bigger screens.. so now I want MGS 3D even more :) + Circle pad is coming to me too :) interesting will it be easier to control with or without it.. ps. don't trust reviews of circle pad pro, it has to be an individual thing to each one..
If that's only that , i think i'd still rather play it on vita then But as a big mgs fan , i'll probably end up having all versions anyway
Well, the 3DS version looks amazing, but I'm getting the Vita version because for the same price as the 3DS version, I get 2 games.
@jio is there a Vita version? Did Konami announce one?
Yes the MGS Collection was fomally announced at E3 for the PS vita. If you are unsure, just google it. Kojima kept on talking up the transfarring feature for the Vita version in particular.
@Solid_Snake37, The MGS HD collection, plus I have Peace Walker from when I downloaded it for the PSP, so it's a much better deal.
If you think it'll be better on a smaller screen, then you might as well get it on the Vita because, you know, twice the resolution looks better and what not. Other than that, big screen HD versions are the way to go.
What person would disagree that the 3DS version is obviously way better looking than the rest? Get your brains checked or at least your eyes, lol.
the 3ds version isnt the exact same game! plus its in 3d. I Already got ps2 and collection. unless 3ds has a whole lot changed its not worth it
I just might buy this for my 3DS. Seems like it would look real good on a portable. I have to many games to play on my PS3 from last year yet...and I do have that 45 minute ride to work everyday....
one of the most idiotic comparisons ever. why dont we compare crysis pc ultra settings on a 100in screen to crysis on consoles on a 14inch screen take a picture and compare them what about if someone could connect a 3ds to a 50inch hdtv and compare its mgs 3 to the mgs 3 hd collection on ps3
except it's hardly idiotic in this case . The same compilation is coming on vita , and both the compilation and 3ds version are superior to the original , kinda obviously . Make sense for those who cares to at least get a feel for it
not as idiotic as you
Oh I know why he is mad! It's because the 3DS is in comparison with a Sony product.
you people that disagreed with me are correct. the 3ds version of mgs 3 looks the best. its worth buying the 3ds version with one game of mgs 3 for the same price as the hd versions on the ps3, psv, xbox with 3 different games. the 3ds version looks so good that we dont need psv, ps3 and xbox 360 because mgs 3 is the pinnacle of great graphics this generation.it was such a waste for the developers to do an hd upgrade when they could have just release the superior 3ds version. i love laughing at people who gets upset over the truth or logic. lol
This was not was your point was about so stop twisting it . You dug yourself into the hole on your own . the comparison was about showcasing how much better the 3ds version looks or it had had any kind of flaws . You wanted to call that rather logic reason as silly , and got the disagrees you deserved in the process . As you said best , logic indeed
PS3 version is the best, MGS needs to be played on a PlayStation. Btw, For the price of MGS3D, I can buy HD Collection and get 5 games
Fanboyism at its finest. See, this is a lil different from the FFXIII arguements. Since MGS SnakeEater is an 8 year old game. The differences in quality/control between the 3 consoles are quite visible. While FFXIII on 360 has *rummored* diminished the overall quality of said title. Basically dumbing an jrpg on an american console(which is primarily for shooters, racing, sports games). Remember...Sony doesnt own Konami, heh, first MG was on a Nintendo console, if memory serves. I could get it from my PS3 or my 3DS. Personal opinion of choice really.
@firefoxprime Metal Gear Solid will always be associated to the Playstation. There's nothing fanboy about it, deal with it.
er the first mg game was on msx actually , technically a microsoft console . And the nes/famicom version was a crappy port of it
@ firefoxprime actually, it's not "rummored" - the X360 version of FFXIII is at a lower/sub HD resolution as compared to the PS3 version in the exact same way that GTA IV/red dead redemption is at a lower/sub HD resolution on the PS3 as compared to the X360 versions. it's because FFXIII was ported to the X360 just as GTA IV/red dead redemption was ported to the PS3, which generally diminishes the overall quality.
@Solid_Snake37 Associated doesn't mean best. He, without playing all versions of the game, said PS3 version IS the best. Btw MGS doesn't need to be played on a playstation, or else it wouldn't be on any other platform, fanboy.
I'm not talking bout MG, I'm talking bout MGS, it was born on the PlayStation and will ALWAYS be associated with PlayStation, little ports and spinoffs like MGS3D and MG Rising can't change anything to this fact. Wait when Kojima(PS3 fanboy) comes and announces MGS5 for the PS4
Ps3 is easily the best version. They actually retextured MGs3 back to front for that game. 3DS is just a port with low quality 3d.
3DS version looks the best.
It will play better with the circle pad if the new res is anything to go by. I like the way the 3ds is for games like mario 3d and mario kart 7 but the circle pad makes the 3ds fit and feel better for games like res and mgs. I cant wait to get hold of the mgs on the 3ds as this is the only mgs game i have not played.
I don't even think MGS3 is the highlight of the HD Collection, Peace Walker is due to the ability to use a second stick for the camera. Also, paying the same price for one game instead of 3?
With the 3ds being cheaper and not requiring mem cards, I think it more then evens out. @thom below But those aren't portable. ^_^; @baka And you wouldn't be buying either system for just one game either. ^_^;;;;;;;
Or, you know, PS3 or 360 version...
@ronin4life : But the MGS HD Collection is coming to the PS Vita. So in fact it is portable.
I just dont agree with the relevance of the the memory card in the argument , he's talking about the cost of buying one game vs its compilation . Espeically with the compil coming to an handheld console What's more relevant would be the changes brought by the 3ds version , and if its worth more than said compilation
@jony I know. That was the version I was talking about. And @thom I'm referring to those who would like a portable mgs, but not a vita. If you have both(systems), then the hd collection is the better value package. I wasn't trying to make an argument or decisive case one way or the other, just setting up some extra points to think about. ^_^; Also, something tells me that there may be more to the 3d ver. That has been kept secret. ..
Doubt they'd waste time hiding features for a remake . They'd rather actually convince people on the fence
"And @thom I'm referring to those who would like a portable mgs, but not a vita." So, in other words, you're tailoring your comment so that the ONLY choice that makes sense is the one you prefer? If people want a portable MGS, but not a Vita, there's obviously only one choice. If people want a portable MGS, then the better choice appears to be the Vita version. And, as Baka mentioned, the memory card would be used for more than one game, thereby increasing the value. Compare the Vita, a memory card, and the games to the 3DS and three games of the same price as MGS 3. I think that's more even than you'd like to admit. Additionally, if we're referring to people who already have a 3DS, then we have to compare that cost to people who already own a Vita; the question then arises of whether or not the price of a memory card should be included at all, as it will likely have already been bought, and as previously stated, will be used for more than just the one game.
@hicken I think you guys are digging a little to deep here... What you appear to not realise is that much of your comment mirrors my intended, but poorly delivered message. My stance is, there will be people who are only able to buy the 3ds version, or perhaps the 3ds version is their only portable option(it's not like everyone will have a vita. And look at baka: he wants both!). The 3ds version is a perfectly worthy entry for these people, and is also a respectable port/remake. So it is a viable purchasing option, which is what I was trying to make a stance on against those who thought otherwise. Now, if you have a vita or don't care to buy it portable, then the hd collection is the better value. Just because I personally want the 3ds version doesn't blind me to this truth. Overall, I think I have been misunderstood through my own failure to communicate(and I'm pretty tired, so I may have failed again...). I apologize for causing unnecessary trouble ^_^;
still you aint buying a memory card just for mgs hd ... it's cost would be divided over many more games
Apparently when deciding which portable platform is better for any multiplat game you have to add the cost of a memory card in for Vita every time... Just like how when comparing PS3/360 games I always add the cost of one dualshock 3 in the factor for the PS3 version.
Its the subsistence version of mgs 3 where you can control the camera like peace walker.
Minor changes. The game is essentially the same with a big res bump on the home consoles. I played MGS2 on PC about 7 years ago in 1200p though and i still have it. It looked pretty decent even at such a high resolution. So thats good news for these. So that kinda removes one of the games for me. Although i would happily play 3 and peacewalker again.
The big difference is that MGS3D has Peace Walker/MGS4 style controls (Twin stick, third-person shooting.) I wish MGSHD would have waited and added these controls.
I think the camera changes for MGS3 were kind of more important because the environments lend themselves well to it- i never had difficulty with them but the camera could be a little 'high'. Subsistence fixed it and that is the version here so i assume it retains the camera controls?
The camera is fine, I more or less meant MGS3HD should have had the same shooting mechanics as in MGS3D.
You can also walk while crouching in the 3ds version. I have only ever played the psp demo(I don't remember what it was called), so I don't know exactly how it will change the gameplay.
@ronin4life You're Peace Walker. Its a sequel to MGS3. @GillHarrison I prefer for the game to as true to the original as possible. Peace Walker was amazing and its controls were great but MGS3 is my favorite of the series and changing to a Peace Walker control style doesn't sound lie it improve anything.
I don't really like the extra color on snake's face in the 3DS version, however the texturing and higher polygonal count is definitely a lot nicer. IMO the best one to me would be a mix of the 3DS and the HD collection one. The sharpness in the HD collection one is a big factor for me, but can use some more contrast.
Well you can at least cheat for the constrast with tv settings ... while retaining the better sharpness and antialiasing .
Looks good on all systems! :) I'll probably pick it up with the Vita collection because I have them all on ps2 already and would enjoy playing them on the go, but if I had a 3DS it would be a hard choice. Although I'd rather stay as close to the original as I can...I bet the 3DS will feel pretty refreshing for veterans though. Even if the slide-pad is whack.
Looks to me like the 3DS version got a comprehensive upgrade, while the HD collection was just a mere resolution and anti-aliasing bump.
Snake's face looks better in 3DS version but I wonder if the improvement in the character models sacrificed the quality of everything else?
Would still go with the PS2 version any day
the 3DS version is by far the best except for the AA... the colors make in more realistic
3DS version is shockingly the best looking version but im still going with the hd collection as 3 games > than just 1.
I'd have to disagree. Look at the finger and the left of the shirt. See all those jaggies. The hair looks better on 3DS but everything else is just higher color saturation not better textures or more detail. The hair in the HD collection doesn't have asmuch color saturation as either other version so it looks more faded out. The 3DS version could look better in motion but I doubt it because the HD collection runs at 60fps. I'd say the PS2 and 3DS versions are interchangeable as far as quality. The 3DS has little to no anti-aliasing while the PS2 version has a lower polygon count but less jaggies. The HD collection version is just better looking overall though. The trees and Snake's clothes just look way more detailed in that version.
I want the 3DS version
I love MGS HD collection but the games seem washed out in it.
Clearly PC version is the best!!!!But for the first time i prefer to buy the console(360) version.
I hate to tell anyone that's been living under a rock for quite some time but MGS hasn't been the system selling franchise since it's days on the PS2. That's why they keep refreshing this game so much. When you have games like Skyrim, Assasins Creed, Batman,GTA, Mass Effect and Bio Shock just to name a few. The Metal Gear games don't look all that important anymore. Gone are the days when the Japanese software developers use to rule the gaming industry.
@Ck1x You say that MGS hasn't been a system selling franchise, and then go on to list a bunch of non-exclusive titles that are available on a number of platforms. These games don't move systems, they move themselves in any form that suits the purchaser. If you'd have mentioned Gears of War, Halo or Uncharted I'd ALMOST agree with you, but then I'd look at the sales data of MGS4, which sold over 4Mil in its first few months. I'd then read all the articles about how the PS3 saw a sharp increase in units moved when MGS4 was released - thus making it the very definition of a 'system seller'
Ok were talking logic here because most of you guys sniff glue or something... i dont care with the people that disagree because sales figures say other wise, you just can't argue with the truth and facts. Also you took what i stated out of context! I said that MGS hasn't been as relavent of a system seller as it was on the PS2. If you honestly believe that if Sony had games like FF and MGS exclusive this generation that it would have helped the PS3 sell like the PS2 then you are clearly smoking crack... Face it, these japanese made games have lost most of the luster they once had. Have you guys even looked at what games like Call of Duty and Skyrim sell like this generation before commenting, please do so thanks!
But your whole argument is nonsense. MGS4 was a huge seller, and the game most definitely helped sell a lot of PS3s. "sales figures say other wise" No...they don't MGS4 released in June 2008, the PS3 received a price cut in early 2008, sales of the system shot through the roof. Whether it was solely due to the price cut or due to the fact that the console was finally getting MGS4 is a nearly impossible thing to determine, but clearly sales figures for PS3 were going up at the time. So sales do not say otherwise. "If you honestly believe that if Sony had games like FF and MGS exclusive this generation that it would have helped the PS3 sell like the PS2 then you are clearly smoking crack" And like MGS4, FFXIII (even as a multiplat title) helped sell a lot of PS3s. I think the only person smoking crack here is the guy living in a bubble...that seems to be you.
his idiotic argument doesnt even need to be addressed truth be told . Metal gear solid came pretty late into the life of the ps1 , and while a big success , was hardly ever the best selling title of the console . The playstation didnt need the mgs franchise alone to sell . It's even way behind stuff like Crash bandicoot in sales Neither did the ps2 with mgs 2 and 3 , both very late entries too and even further behind on the best selling ps2 list . Then the ps3 with mgs 4 . In short , if sales were your only way to figure out important and breakthrough titles , you were barking up the wrong tree anyway . But by all mean keep prancing around and rejoicing about a franchise losing a throne it never had .
So much for what you know of a "franchise losing a crown that it never had." MGS sold 6mil+ & MGS2 sold 7mil+ Like i said this game has been replaced by the Call of Duty & Bioshocks of this generation. Do a google search next time!
Lol but i do know that a, nd that's actually my point . Those millions are outsold by other ps1 games , and on ps2 . Like i said , crash bandicoot itself sold even better or if you prefer very japanese stuff like tomb raider . Heck the japan domination , you allude to had mostly GT or final fantasy in the top 5 of most ps1 or ps2 best selling titles . And let's remind you again , the first 3 mgs are quite late entry in the ps consoles cycles , at points it already had a big base . "this game has been replaced by the Call of Duty & Bioshocks of this generation" MGS was never the "cod of its generation" . Cod actually replaced other games , most of wich werent even japanese , like GTA . Hence "the throne they never had , been stolen"
First I just bought the PS3 just for MGS 4, to discover all the other awesome titles it had to offer as well. So your logic kinda fails
How many fps in the 3DS version?
The right amount.
I think they're shooting for 30fps. You could tell in one of the earlier videos that it was running lower than 30 though. That being said it has the run the image twice for 3D so if it manages 30fps its running 60fps. They probably had 3D on during that video which is probably why the drop was noticeable. Hope that makes sense.
out of those pictures i thought the 3DS one looked the best. but all versions will be excellent. I hope konami re release twin snakes on 3DS too that would be awesome.
WOW, the 3DS doesn't look bad.
there going to have to update this when the vita comes out