Blu-Ray and HD-DVD as one, a hybrid, is it possible. Well according to 2 Warner Engineers it is.
I don't plan on buying either in the near future, but if I did it would be a HD-DVD player, because DVD are an excellent medium and I believe HD-DVD is the way to go. I doubt this will happen, if it does, I will never buy a disc with all three mediums on it. Talk about confusing the average consumer.
i must admit when i read the article i was a tad stumped :p
What about cost im not paying for Blu-ray or anything Sony for that matter. They jumped the gun and people are worried no one cares for this tech yet. ^^^ I agree HD-DVD will pull ahead >from price and name alone<.
Doesn't seems to be there anymore
Sorry bout that mate, article title was changed for some reason and so the source code changed
This is a cool idea. But dont both Sony and Toshiba have hybrid players in development? There is no point in having 2 formats if there is 1 player that can handle them. And the person says that neither is better then the other? Not according to the reviews, but he may have read different ones or something...i guess.
Neither Sony nor Toshiba has "hybrid players" in development or planned. That would be to jeopardize their own interests.
A few other manufacturers have talked loosely about making such players, but they haven't actually confirmed they will make one -- probably because it would demand a lot of research, be expensive and ofcourse make for a strained relationship to each of the main platform holders.
But one day... one can dream...
And regarding quality, for now, HD-DVD is slightly ahead because of a number of factors (better player on market, production problems for initial Blu-Ray discs and therefore only single layer on market, temporarily use of wrong codec). That however, can quickly change as Blu-Ray has the potential for higher quality and the number of competing hardware manufacturers for Blu-Ray could make it difficult for HD-DVD to follow suit.
However, when all is said and done, it might end out a wash...
Alright thanks for the correction. And in the pending stories, theres another comparison, theyre pretty much equal now that blu-ray movies are being released in the VC-1 codec. Now the only difference is price.
thanks for the tip...
There is a company out there working on a hybrid dive, and I'm pretty sure it is Toshiba.
And how does that hurt them? Their hybrid player would allow their one product to stay in the market regardless of who wins the format war. And if they control the hybrid player, they could attach marketing that suggests which format is "optimized" for playback in their machine. Assured victory and a backup plan in case, all in one box.
/commented retracted as previous comment was misinterpreted :p
even talking about you.
sorry mate then I apologise but try not to be so.... hostile (only word i could think of)
So you might be able to place both formats on the same disc, making it more expensive for both formats! Yay!
Sorry Warner engineers, it's a format war. Even if you created the discs, people will end up buying one or the other....because hybrid players will cost more.
Maybe both will go away. I wouldn't shed a tear.
Yah well I don't agree with this, because it's only gonna make hybrid discs more expensive than HD-DVD or blu-ray. So in the end it's just best to wait, and that's what everybody's gonna do until stand alone players come down to 100-200 bucks.
HD-DVD will survive until space (more than 100Gb) is needed. Then Blu-ray only discs will become the standard (up to 200Gb) . HD-DVD is OK for now...but in 2-3 years..???
How many layers for each format can they squeeze ...one maybe two....even though I would like having the DVD version as well as Blu-ray.
Let's get it over with only one format
That's the dumbest reasoning I've heard so far. Tell me why people would want a 200gb disc, to hold four 1080p movies on.
Toshiba says triple-layer HD-DVD is already in the works, and that these discs play just fine in current players. No upgrades necessary.
So what were you saying?
hey...no preeze breeze...it's OK if you like HD-DVD well...because companies will probably recycle old stuff on those 200Gb disc...it's called added value!
The Blu-ray version of Halloween 11 will contain the previous 10 movies, The John Carpenter Documentary, the soundtrack...
we all know this will come sooner than later
Well heck, if Halloween 11 comes with all those crappy reditions of the original... I'M IN, BLU-RAY RULES. Come on man, don't like blu-ray just because your going to be forced to buy it from Sony. What's the problem with carry around 4 blu-ray discs instead of one. Is it gonna break your back or something.
What about TV releases? They could use up 200gigs of space for 1080p video. Anyways, a hybrid disc is what they should have made in the beginning. Instead Toshiba and Sony have both gone for broke with their own standards and now they risk alienating the public and there is a chance both could fail. Personally, I hope bluray wins now because I'm gonna have a ps3, but it would be nice if they had compromised a couple of years ago and avoided the format wars.
thats not right ! blue ray is not only a format from sony, but many other companys. toshiba was the one who didnt want to play with them.
in the end the winner will be declared by whatever means make the movies companies most profitable.
quality means nothing to them, $$$$ do. the only reason fox and disney are supporting blu-ray is because blu-ray promised to make copying more difficult, loyalty means nothing to them, and they would all switch to a new format next year if it increases their bottom line.
how much is the drive going to cost? $2,000?
Get back to me when they cost as much as a DVD player. How do they calculate the value of these drives? by pixels? Cause honesly I prefer buying 200 dvd movies than 1 movie with extra pixels.
Sony's blu-ray will win because it will be everywhere. Come November 400,000 people will have a blu-ray player and they will support blu-ray. By the end of the year or next year when you buy a new computer from Sony, Dell or HP they will have a Blu-Ray player in them!!! A lot of people can argue picture quality that wont be the cause later this year when Panasonic, Pioneer and Sony release their Blu-Ray player. When you buy something that has Blu-Ray built in people will support it!! The problem that Blu-ray is having right now its the Samsung player. Its a crappy player I still cant believe Sony let them be the first to market instead of their own players!!!!!
It doesn't come down to 400k PS3 users, they are not buying movies. Standalone buyers do however. And HD-DVD sells more
Furthermore, the real battle is done by PC users getting a OEM drive to build in their desktops. They will get the cheapest alternative compared to the storage. Which is HD-DVD. The media to burn is also cheaper.
PC users will get the market going. Read my post below to get rest of the facts
Yes, you are right.
Paul Cerula, what would you prefer-
one disc, with everything, or four with their content split apart ?
I know which one I'd want
blue ray will win ! forgot the crap HD-DVD, although its from toshiba, a nice brand, but sony , matsushita and all other companys are better !
Well guys like Achira, that's your hardest desire but not the truth. I know I know you are really dying to see BR succeed because of your upcoming PS with BR onboard. But you'll buy the console which has within short time the most outdated nonstandard drive inside.
"One thing hasn't yet changed, however -- Blu-ray hardware and software is still generally more expensive than HD DVD. Sure, we early adopters are used to paying big prices for our new toys. But when even a comparatively"cheap" $500 player and $29 discs makes the average consumer balk at HD DVD, what do you think their reaction is going to be when Blu-ray sticker shock sets in? That $1000 price tag for the Samsung is pretty steep even for diehard tech-heads, not to mention those upcoming $40 discs from Fox and MGM."
"And value for money is unique to the individual plunking down the cash. But when and if all things become equal, and both Blu-ray and HD DVD are indistinguishable in terms of video and audio quality and depth of supplemental features, price will become even more important in deciding the format war. In fact, I think it will be absolutely crucial, even more than studio support. Let's face it, we're a nation of cheap Americans who want the biggest bang for the smallest buck. Price will always matter, regardless of quality. Just ask the Betamax."
And there you go. You have it all again. No need to think more. Oh yeah there is
HD - people know what it is
DVD - people are very familiar with it
They already own a HD-TV, it's more logical in most peoples eyes to get a HD-DVD standalone then something that's called BluRay.
Simple. End of story. HD-DVD wins
200gb disc filled with movie content. And how much is that going to cost me? I don't think people want to fork over $80-$100 for a disk with movies on it. Plain ridiculous, not everyone can afford that. I know people that still use VHS tapes.
I Agree with #9 (Islandkiwi ). I honestly don't see much of a point in either format. IMHO, when comparing the video at best buy, these HD & BR disk look almost exactly the same as my standard def player.
And with harddrives getting up to the 2TB size and more, I think future consoles will use digital downloads. I wish MS and Sony would put more effort in to allowing end users to upgrade the consoles. I would much rather haver more harddrive space and more memory, than a HD/BR drive, which currently is the systems bottleneck.
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