TheParanoidGamer: President of LightBox Interactive, Dylan Jobe discusses his thoughts about about 3D support in gaming and his future plans for it.
thank god! that one of the things i feel uncharted 3 looked downgraded due to the stupid 3d crap...i bet U3 multiplayer would of looked waaay better if it wasn't for the 3d.
what if the 3D came in a large optional update instead?
It would be to big of an update then that no one would want to waste their time with, even if it was optional. The 3D file on Killzone 3 literally took up half the space of the 41 GB disc. http://n4g.com/news/699535/... it's in the comments
@ The disagree's really? It's been confirmed to be that large Why in the world would anyone want to download a patch that large, even if it is optional. Any idea how long that would take? DC Universe patch is big enough and that took hours
Yeah I'll agree. I'm pretty sure by next gen this issue will be resolved and developers won't need to downgrade any areas because of 3D.
the thing is its always a case of why give up any ground, the better you can make the game let that be even if you had a render farm i would still hold that true
"I'm pretty sure by next gen this issue will be resolved and developers won't need to downgrade any areas because of 3D." Not going to happen. 3D will ALWAYS require extra processing power versus 2D, which means the 2D image/framerate will always be bettter. Unless, of course, every game will be in mandatory 3D next gen.
How much was your bionic eye?
Then how do you explain the single player looking so well when it also supported 3D? I'm willing to bet multiplayer looked slightly downgraded if it weren't for split screen support.
Too bad. I bought the 3D display and think Uncharted 3, Killzone 3, and Resistance 3 looked amazing in 3D.....I think all games should support the feature. Gran Turismo 5,MotorStorm Apoc., Sonic Generations, The Fight Lights Out, Socom 4, Mortal Kombat, House of Dead Overkill, and WipeOut HD are all amazing in 3D..... truly brings something new to the gaming experience. More immersive by far.
I can't imagine playing KZ3 without my 3D. Reality sucks.
That's a bit of a shame, since I'm really enjoying the 3D tv I got from Black Friday. :) The game does look gorgeous though and I can't wait to play it!
Great. 3D is a bit of a gimmick.
Easy to say if you don't have it. But some games look INCREDIBLE in 3d. But what am I saying, of course you know that or you wouldn't be commenting. /s
I do know that. *I watched the premiere of Avatar in 3D *I tested a 3DTV at an electronics store. And it was a disappointment. Also "some games." I wouldn't spend hundreds on a 3DTV just play "some games." I'm a gamer. I care more about them improving the gameplay mechanics rather than sacrificing them just for slightly improved visuals. 3D doesn't really add anything else but nausea and headaches.
lol its soooo gimmick that there is a 3D tooth paste commercial and more movies are coming out or been remade in 3D, man up and buy the damn tv once you have it you'll love it .I would have loved starhawk in 3D D D but not if it would gimped the game
Please. Do nor ever use money, time, or precious space and $ on 3D. It isn't worth it. It just is not. Does it look cool...sometimes...and that isn't enough. When you can make me feel like bullets are flying past my head or rain is falling all around me, then maybe, but only if it benefits gameplay such as immersion. If its gimmicky or simply changes depth perception as so many do, it isn't worth the trade off. I like the idea of an optional upgrade. It mat not b feasible now but atleast it doesn't affect the products potential. Imagine what killzone 3 could have been had they not had to focus so much time, money, and energy on 3D and the move. They were gimmicky at best. What i care about is gameplay, story, multiplayer etc. Imagine if they could have created a 25+ hour campaign delving into my favorite fps universe. Imagine if the greatest enemy ever created could have been fully realized. Imagine if instead of launching with 3 maps for my favorite multi mode, they released 10. Then it could have been the Juggernaut i always dreamed it could be. It could have been the new marquee Sony game for next Gen. Look how damned good it was w so many resources going to irrelevent ideas. I feel bad for the company because i love killzone. The same goes for resistance. Both were phenomonal games that could have been legendary. I don't know if 3D or move r the reason they were short and ultimately unfulfilling but it could not have helped.
Totally agree. 3D and move royally messed up KZ3. They could have made the game more responsive without dumbing down the 20+ variables for calculating ballistics making each weapon feel more unique like in KZ2. They could have kept MP at 32 players and they wouldn't have had to ditch the squad system in KZ2. Environmental textures could have been greatly improved but the environment textures and particle effects are lacking in KZ3. Physics also feel downgraded. The whole game lacks polished and feels rushed. Such a shame. KZ3 could have turned out special. Didn't help that GG wouldn't shut up about how they dumbed everything down like it was for our benefit. Sadly we were given a generic, shallow and limp mess with half-assed attempts at variety.
Hey don't go complaining about the Move.It didn't waste much man power at all.Sony did all that work awhile ago,now you just need the UI to set it up for the player preference.Make the cross hairs free floating An your about done.Its basically the right analog thats why it can be patched into games pretty easily. Now the 3d did infact use a great deal of man power.However you can't claim it wasted that man power until you have seen the 3d in action.Only then can you judge it.
Meh, doesn't bother me, I'm currently in the process of purchasing a 55" and I'm not ready to adopt 3d tech yet. I already wear corrective lenses and use stereo headsets for audio, and I'm not fond of putting another thing on my head to play games. Besides, with my budget, I can get more tv bang for my buck by opting out of 3d. Maybe in a few more years, if the next gen really proves its worth having the 3d.
i can't understand why anyone who's upgrading their tv now wouldn't just go ahead and buy one that supports 3D. the price difference between sets that support it and ones that don't is negligible. vizio's line of 3d tvs (which use the same screens as LGs) are under $1000 dollars. the next gen is going to be all about 3D i can promise you - might as well spend the money now instead of having to buy a new set next year.
Disappointing, though for their small developer studio I understand why they wouldn't want to cause problems.
I dont mind, I just want to play it. It would been great if they did but Im fine without it.
this beta was not even CLOSE to running in 720p....seemed less than COD resolution, prolly a good idea to not cut that in half and make it 3d. on a related note, what the HECK is going on with ps3 games late in this generation getting visual/resolution downgrades???? are they just not spending the development money anymore? other than uncharted of course, but others that have been downgraded recently are latest ratchet and resistance
Um Resistance 3 look better then R2. So not really a downgrade. Beside different dev teams. can't expect all teams to be on par with Naughty Dog or Santa Monica.
Resistance 3 looks better than Resistance 2. This was easy to see. Better lighting, particles and effects like the wind, dust, rain. Even the water looks better in part 3 than the oily physics part 2 had. Beyond that, Starhawk graphics look better than Warhawk too. You -really- need to play those games again. I don't play the Ratchet games, but inFamous 2 looked better than inFamous 1 as well imo
I recently purchased a 46" 3d samsung led. It came with 3d glasses. Lets just say that the glasses are still in the box. i dont give a rats a$$ about 3d gaming, yeah its cool for a good 5 min, then its like ive been there done that. If 3d is going to hinder fps, or graphics....get rid of it. IT DOESNT SELL GAMES
i think you're wrong: 3D support has definitely been a factor in the purchase of more than one game (most recently halo: anniversary and de blob 2). if, as you say, your glasses are still in the box, you might want to take them out and give it a try - it's actually pretty awesome. you could say you've 'been there done that' about HD gaming but the argument would be just as silly.
I played call of duty black ops in 3d on my friends tv. It was cool, but I dont support this generation of consoles trying to add 3d to there games knowing that it means they have to downgrade resolution, fps or other aspects of the game to please a hand full of people. When the next generation of consoles come out, and can handle 3d without sacrafice then that would be great. Plus wearing Glasses and wearing your turtle beach head set is to much, next thing you know you'll have to wear a helmet to play games.
hah - i actually do wear my 3d glasses and my x41s at the same time. one thing that helps is that my tv is passive 3D so the glasses are the same type you wear in a movie theater - i haven't tried them but i've heard the active-shutter glasses are heavy and less comfortable. also - i can't imagine adding 3D to a game could ever effect its normal 2D mode. why would it? the 3D version might run and a reduced resolution and/or with less fps but that doesn't effect the games performance when it's turned off.
Starhawk is a huge downgrade from Warhawk. They should just cancel this and make Warhawk 2 instead of this mediocre "spiritual successor".
Starhawk is awesome! I thought the build gameplay would be complex but Its so seamless. This game blows warhawk out of the water. I didnt like Starhawk at all, the ground combat controls where awful, no over the shouoder shooting angle! Starhawk is much much better
I'm still on the fence about 3D's implementation, but there's no denying Starhawk is a beautiful game at its current state. @ ElliePage How can it be a huge downgrade, if the game has things Warhawk didn't (base building, actual single player campaign, aliens vs humans, a variety of new vehicles, etc)?
I think he saying that because we haven't seen alot of the game yet.I mean the beta is missing most of the hawks weapons, a couple of the ground weapons.And two buildings, although Im actually hoping those two empty slots open up more building options.I can think of more then two things that must be there.A tank has to be there if not it would be a step back.A .50 cal the auto turret is nice but I want something I can shoot myself.A repair pad, think of it as the repair icons of warhawk but players can drop them.(Its not a must have I just miss that being on fire being chased by a hawk and a jeep with a guy on the .50 and hitting the health just before I go boom)APC,dropship I could go on for awhile but om my PS3 limited space. As it stands right now Warhawk is better,but we didn't see it this early.We know it grew over a couple of years with the DLC I think the same will happen again.
Ahhh, I see now! Btw, thanks for a detailed/mature response.
i'll take more detail and visual clarity over 3d everytime. yes i own a sony lx900 3dtv.
This doesn't affect me since I don't have a 3DTV.
Fine by me. I, like many others don't have a 3D tv and it just downgrades visual fidelity and game logic. I'd rather have better graphics and gameplay than tacked on gimmick like 3D.
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