Nerdreactor.com theorizes that the rumor that Xbox 720 will not play used games can be confirmed through Gamestop's recent strategy to move away from brick and mortar retail to digital only.
No. The answer is the UK market is either between supermarkets (who can afford to sell games cheaper) and shops like Game/Gamestation (owned by the same company). The rise of online shopping is also a major impact. Game dedicated shops are doing less well because the competition from supermarkets and online stores can sell games at a cheaper price. Nothing to do with the next xbox
Its funny how a trash site claims something on n4g and other trash sites start debating on that topic regardless if the source is reliable or not. Stop arguing over rumors and start posting actual news.
If this is actually true, then it's Confirmed that I will never Buy one. Ever.
Yeah, ms isnt that stupid....
I want to punch the imbecile who conjured up the title for this garbage "basement journalism" piece.
@Army_of_Darkness "If this is actually true, then it's Confirmed that I will never Buy one. Ever. " At least not a second hand one.
If it can't play used games but the initial retail price is much lower, then it could be good for consumers. Take Steam as an example. Though when/if it is a physical product I find it quite scandalous that they are allowed to disallow resale - or even force things like online passes.
I guess that means there will be no more rental of games and no more trading in games to save cost on the next new game. Bummer.
I would never buy a "no used" console (AKA, a system that won't play a game on multiple systems). And, no, Microsoft isn't stupid enough to go mainly digital, either. Having the lowest common denominator console is a HUGE part of success in the console industry. The 4GB Xbox isn't the top selling, but it is a huge chunk of sales. And the Wii doesn't have a harddrive at all. Imagine if they went mostly or all digital.....they would need beefy harddrives. And that would cost. And eliminating used games from their system might appease publishers, but gamers would utterly reject it. It would be disastrous. No used games or all/mostly digital would be an awful console and would do terrible on the market.
Fact - Traditional games stores make more profit on used games than on new ones. Without this revenue, many independent games stores will go under and stores such as Gamestop will lose a massive profit margin. I predict that if Microsoft do this, then Sony certainly won't. The increase in console sales for them would be phenomenal.
Hmmmm.. I kind of want to agree but console sales have never been what makes money in the gaming market but rather the software, in that respect Sony would have more to lose than Microsoft as they have more first party studios. The above said I do see your point, and they could well look to do the reverse (of Microsoft) in the hope it will sell more consoles and thus attract more 'mass' market appeal and hence software sales, but suppose it how they weigh it up!
It would be an interesting case study to see how it would effect console sales.
But shops like CeX are still selling used games (here in the UK at least) and in many cases cheaper than Game, though I'll admit gaming alone isn't their forte!
The fact that Army_Of_Darkness has more disagrees than agrees blows my mind. People honestly think MS is that stupid. They havent been an elephant in the room for several decades because they are stupid. Get. Real. That's just outright bias. As for the rumor, here's an opinion coming from a site that is not trash that I'm sure many of you will find enlightening: http://www.gamesradar.com/a...
Army of Darkness decided to reply to DarkHollow's comment about how the rumor itself was rubbish, by responding as though the rumor had merit. It doesn't surprise me he got disagrees because he should have commented directly to the statement that the rumor was BS.
I want MS to do that and see how well their system sells. MS got lucky early on but than they went all casual on us. If they want my business and they have this stupid thing than keep it. So what this means is i can not ask my friend to lend me a game? do it MS just to see how big of a fail it would be
man do you really think microsoft is that dumb? you are just saying do it cause you think sony won't follow the same strategy, You do know that all 3 companies were for SOPA? so what makes you think Sony wont consider this, they are the ones who already won't let you play used games with out downloading and paying for a code. If microsoft is considering this they would've done the same?
Completely agree. It's a complete waste of money spending on overheads when you can distribute via online order, which is wiping the floor with high street retail. Same with the main electronic entertainment stores like HMV and Zavvi, completely screwed when their main competitor now comes from the likes of Amazon and the iTunes store. ps...I would love it if they could keep brick and mortar afloat but its really more of a romantic though, more feasible to rub out the waste first.
It's not just the UK though. Gamestop is planning on going out of brick and mortar completely. Over here in the States, they do really well.
What's with the really stupid headlines on n4g recently?
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^^ This :)
Lol, good one Maria.
Sorry, not completely, but they've stated that they have plans to remove all stores from Europe. We're trying to find out about America now. http://www.vg247.com/2012/0...
That tweet wasn't from GameStop...just a random tweeter...
The brick and mortar closures are because of lack of sales kinda pointless to leave the lights on if no one wants to buy a game or Gamestop realised they got too big too fast who knows. And the 720 using a product key like PC games I doubt either with Microsoft there are ways to make cash companies like EA decide if the game is going to have a product key or not. EA found a market for people buy a product code for a used game to be played online and Sony is doing the same thing with online pass. I know one thing games that require an online pass to play online trade in like crap at Gamestop. As for the 720 everything right now is speculation. Thats like a new speculation the 720 will be unhackable when people know it will happen everything gets hacked.
If Nextbox has product keys on top of a paid online service, then I'm jumping ship on them. I've loved Halo and Gears since the first games but I would have to be an idiot to go with that...
Sadly there's people that will be okay with that.
And it's those people that will be the death of my favourite hobby.
What Gamestop closures? They keep opening new ones here in the U.S.
I doubt it's true but it would be hilarious if the next XBOX caused them to go out of business after they pushed the 360 over so much harder than the PS3 or Wii.
Why would GS choose a side when they benefit from more choices? The more platforms the more money they make. When I go to GS I don't run smack into a wall of Xbox's as soon as I walk though the door. Your attempt at claiming GS biased is just fail.
"Just fail"...how cute. Anyway, the ones i have been to are very biased. The Nintendo games are packed in the front corner of the store, the PS3 games in the back left corner, and the 360 games wrap from front right corner to the back left corner (3/4 of the store). Every time i reserve a game the first words out of their mouths are "For the 360 right?". No idiot, Skyward Sword is not for the 360. Oh, and before you start any fanboy crap, i own a 360/Wii/PS3/PSP/3DS. I'm just tired of my reserves being screwed up because they assume EVERYONE buys EVERY GAME for the 360.
What a load of BS! Microsoft doesn't have that level of power to close down GS locations with a "rumor". The floundering economy, however, does!
Someone actually typed this up and submitted it?
If u r not going to play used games, nix the blue ray and go fully digital. Put the money into graphics and processing power. This way you can undercut the competition with console price. Also, create your own steam or origin. Ppl will love getting a PC experience with the console advantages. If I'm Sony and c what Xbox is offering with graphics card and blue ray, and their lack of 1st party titles etc, i am waiting for the new blue ray, the 4k Res and witheir first party developers, they can release a whole host of triple a games at launch. It wasn't the year head start Xbox got that hurt Sony, it was their game selection, lack of achievements, and overall online experience. I do think, though, that whoever can offer a console version of steam may hurt itself a bit in the beginning but corner the future market. Also, i believe that the ps3, & 360 r going to b more relevant than the Xbox and ls2 were after new consoles launched. They r used for so much. It gigs a buffer to try something out of the box
You do know that everyone doesn't have an internet connection that would make downloading games that are tens of gigs in size (and that's this gen, I'm sure next gen games will take up far more space) a practical sole method of distribution, right? Many people on DSL and cable connections barely achieve 200kbps speeds,and many download even slower. Also people aren't willing to leave their systems on for a straight day to download games. And can you imagine how large the mandatory HDD included would have to be to hold a significant number of games? Consoles are at least one more generation away from being in a position where they can rely solely on digital distribution. Also, Xbox having a year head start is kinda the reason that the PS3's library was weak in comparison when it came out, they're one and the same. No console is released with an awesome library of games, the early stages are always slow. So yes, the year head-start was a major factor. I'll agree with you on the XBL experience (of which achievements are a part) being one of the other major factors in the shifting of console-ground from Sony to MS.
This is amazing
So a rumor about console that isn't announced or will be no time soon is causing Gamestop to close their stores? I think that is a bit of a stretch.
Hmmm well if they get rid of used games,then this means we should be able to install the game on the xbox without needing the disc :D I would like digital rentals also
" Gamestop's recent strategy to move away from brick and mortar retail to digital only." WHAT!? LFMAO. Where did you hear that? Highly doubt they'd ever get rid of their primary source of revenue.
They should realize that used games are alot better then the games not selling period some games are good games but not worth 70 dollars...
Not for Microsoft or the publishers. Used games hit gamestops bootom line directly. Therefore your argument is incorrect
you do realize for a game to be used someone had to buy it once right? all it does is let someone who wouldn't buy it at full price play the game. think of this way what if i buy 360 and only buy used games they may not make money on me buying used games but they made money on me buying a 360 didn't they? Sure some people might buy a console used but i learned the hard way not do that
Okay, really off point. That concept for the Xbox 720 looks awful. That better not be what Microsoft is considering what so ever.
You do know they shut these Gamestops down lol where in live Belfast Northern Ireland ffs :D. Ain't like i live in a mega massive place like the united states ffs. Its two stores in the Town centre one out in bangor ffs. Ain't the end of the world for Gamestop lol. We are only outta a recession recently and many stores are still struggling here GS ain't the only store here to close this year lol. Do your geography better still look at google maps find Northern Ireland then have a wee think over your article and slap yourself on the head ffs. Some epople will try and make a story for addtention over anything now days.
I just hope,if true, that this wont inspire hackers to "fight" against Microsoft for the right of the consumer to barter and sell their property with no repercussions. And create a whole digital war on Microsoft by groups of angry hackers and make the average consumer suffer for it again.
Ya know..I kinda agree with you and I kinda don't. I would be pissed if a group of hackers like Anonymous crippled my enjoyment of Xbox live or something like that. While I don't support hacking and pirating and things of that nature, If these multi-billion dollar corporations start making their own rules that pretty much ruin an open market and call into question fair market ethics for the average consumer... then I think someone has to stick it to them. And the only people that would have the ability to really get under their skin would be a group of savvy hackers.
i think it'd be a good idea by msoft. less BS gamestop taking money from devs, more dev profits, better games, more risks.
Like they cant afford taking risks... Just saying. However I doubt MS is the reason for GS closures.
some companies can't. look at companies that had to close after a game that didn't sell
Hey guys, let me ask you a question. How does it feel to be trolled by these stupid websites?
*ignore, double post.
What a phenomenally stupid headline. Yes, they're closing stores now, so that confirms a console releasing in 2013 at the earliest won't play second-hand games. That's quite the logical leap they've taken. So still popular formats like the 360, PS3, Wii...then the Wii U and probably PS4 used sales wouldn't be enough to keep them afloat? Idiocy. The closures are due to increased competition from online sales and supermarkets undercutting their prices combined with a generally poor economy. Even if the next Xbox is download only, hardware, peripheral and probably even top up cards to buy games would be available for sale in stores...assuming said stores don't get their panties in a bunch and decide to boycott due to lack of games on shelves in a phenomenally short-sighted move.
haha the microsoft fans get a trolling yeah i mean if the 720 was digital only then they wouldnt sell end of every1 i know wants physical media you can lend a game to your friend or sell it second hand you cant do this with digital even if they made it possible to do these things it wouldnt be like owning a physical copy imagine having spent £1000 on new games and you didnt have 1 physical game to show 4 all your money its all in a digital space that could be lost even, Xbox 720 dead in the water already. WiiU king of the Next-Gen its doing everything right better online than LIVE,5x more powerful than 360 at present still being tweaked,1080p Native,Tablet controller 4 amazing stuff like that panarama demo wow imagine that used in GTA,Huge release games will be ready at launch,there 3 main points are The Console/Powerful graphics and proccessor The Internet/Social networks to exchange game data The Controller/Powerful multimedia/Argmented/panarama beast
Uhhhh...WiiU is said to have the same grpahical capabilities as the PS3? 5x more powerful is the 720 numb-nuts
The UNFINSIHED, UNDONE DEVELOPMENT KITS were 50% more powerful. I have no idea how many times I've said... Nintendo said it at E3. The IGN rumor you're talking about says that 720 is 6 times more powerful than 360... WiiU is 20% less powerful than that whic is about 5 times more powerful... 720 and WiiU will be close. This whole WiiU on par with PS3 came from a interpretation of Nintendo saying the underclocked demo kits were on par but not the final version.
instead of going against people who buy used games why not encourage people to buy new games giving free content? take for example Battlefield 3 you buy the limited edition and you receive content like Back to Karkand a dlc that cost $15 for free
Ha hahahahhh! if it's true then the piratery will grow like grass.
I am so tired of these rumors already. How about we wait till Microsoft announces its system. Wow, that's a crazy thought, eh?
Microsoft and Sony wouldn't release a console that couldn't play used games. It would guarantee less console sales for them. Although if a developer is dumb enough they would probably refuse to develop for the said consoles that support used games. Either way killing the used game market would definitely negatively effect the Game Industry altogether, that's a no brainier.
This is a slanderous writer's wet dream. You got your own ass kicked out of the Microsoft headquarters and writing BS like this in poor attempt to scare us.
The thing that doesnt seem to make sence even if this was true is that, by a console comapny doing this, they are essentially cutting out a need or cost for manufacturing the physical discs and the cost for a distributor. This is an enormous decrease in liability on their part. So my question is, as we all move into this digital only era, shouldn't the fucking retail prices reflect this as well??? I say good! Let these fucking greedy assholes have their new only systems and digital only games. But at the same time consumers should pay far less than 60 bucks a game to reflect this
MS wont go full retard
down with game stop!!!!!!!
Oh wow, and to think of the cost to make these games for the next gen, its practically gonna be doubled. Publishers will pull out definitely. On a side note: Mabe this only benifits the old system (360 used games) just throwing that out there.