November NPDs: Microsoft's Reaction

Kotaku - Luke Plunkett, Fri Dec 14 2007:

While it was always going to be tough for Sony to put a good spin on the latest NPD figures, for Microsoft, things were a little easier. The 360 kicked the PS3's arse, a 360 release topped the software sales charts and two Microsoft first-party titles (Mass Effect & Halo 3) made the top 10. And aside from a failed attempt to gain "victory" for the month by citing "most dollars spent," (sorry MS, Kotaku counts numbers sold, not dollars spent,) that's exactly what they focused on.

[toughNAME]

Gamespot sucking up to Sony fans?

Kotaku sucking up to 360 fans?

Leafs win 5 of last 6?

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Somethings wrong here

[TANOD]

when x360 even with Halo 3 cant beat ps3 by big margins (with a lower price point as well)

especially when x360 is being beaten by PS3 in terms of WW sales such PR is irrelevant

all ps3's mega GUNS are due in 2008. even without them ps3 is doing a fantastic job in EU/JAPAN and also decent in NA

[ktchong]

whose stance is very different from Kotaku.

FYI, anything over 50% lead is a big margin.

[TANOD]

but the ps3 beats x360 in terms of WW sales

1.5m according to Vgcharts vs 1.3 m

so a victory for ps3 by 200k

ps3 sales went up 400% and this is just the beginning

with a stellar 2008 lineup u can deduce the victor not in terms of WW sales but also in terms of NA sales

@round BOT

www.medi-control.de
www.gfk.com

there are other sources too. but whatever way u are looking at it x360 comes last in WW sales

[BloodySinner]

Don't tell me you created another account, shmee/nasim/tanod?

[ktchong]

Now he has to rely on the VG Chartz he hates to defend the PS3.

Remember: Back in August, fresh after the first PS3 price cut, VG Chartz also showed that the PS3 outsole Xbox 360 in worldwide data... turned out VG Chartz was wrong. Not only the 360 outsold PS3, but by a decent margin.

[Rice]

The leafs are doing really good, not much of a leaf fan though.
more of a Raptors fan....

[hokis4ever]

GO LEAFS GO!!!

[iceman2929]

leafs!!!

i know what you mean man

flames beat tampa... 9 -6... thats unheard of...

[Polluted]

@Iceman2929: You talking smack about my Flames? Best check yo' self fool. ;-)

[chester]

damn rights. flames rule baby. leafs will lose 3 straight soon and everyone will call for them to fire everyone and trade the team. you can set your watch by it.

just kidding, leafs fans. it'll probably have to be at least 4 in a row.

[Blitzed]

Well, whatever it is, lets just hope it continues through this road trip!

[hokis4ever]

so true... lol

[hades07]

Leafs win 5 of last 6, when I saw that have to say that made my day. Bubbles for you my friend for even mentioning hockey and video games in the same comment.

[gamesblow]

Isn't that ANAL LEAK from England? So why the hell does he care about American sales so much? Stupid CRICKET D*CK! Or even better... why doesn't he spin himself up Crecente or Bashcrofts ass some more? Sony beat xbox 360's world wide sales last month and that's what's important... Global dominance... it's like Risk. Only, Sony's winning.

[power of Green]

That Cricket knows about as much when it comes to American sales as you do Japanese or Europe sales with the only thing being different is he's a pro and you are not.

[SabreMan]

Cricket what that got to do with it ??
are you going to tell me or are you to busy playing rounders

[PS3 Limps on and on]

PS3 sold 466k in a month. PS3 is probably already outselling 360 in Japan and Europe and still with their cheapest sku being $399, while 360's cheapest sku is $279.

I'm not being a fanboy but with those sales, it seems PS3 might have a future in the industy after all. I mean next year the PS3 has some bombs coming out and the possiblity to adjust their prices if they want.

So in the long term, this isn't over yet. Some were saying the PS3 wouldn't live to see 2008. 360 had a chance to bury it this year with Halo 3.

[TANOD]

It outsold x360 in the 1st week of DECEMBER in WW sales .

www.vgcharts.org

expect that margin to increase especially in JAPAN ps3 sales are supposed to boom + in places like Italy,germany expect the ps3 to sell incess of 100k alone in those territories next week

so in 2007 just with 3 AAA --Uncharted,Ratchet and UT3 ps3 will beat x360 in WW sales

as for 2008 and beyond you do know who is the victor

[ktchong]

Don't forget there are Australia and New Zealand, where Xbox 360 has been outselling PS3.

And there's an Asia outside Japan. The last time I read, the combined market of Singapore + Hong Kong + Taiwan + South Korea + India is actually bigger than Japan, and 360 is doing as well as if not better in those territories that tend to be hostile to Japanese products. (Singapore/Hong Kong/Taiwan are Chinese territories, South Korea is Korean territory.)

Now, if China completely opens up its local market for 360, PS3 will be dead. The Chinese HATE - truly truly DESPISE - the Japanese and would take an American product over a Japanese one any day.

If Microsoft was smart, they would use the cultural advantage to play off Chinese/Korean and Japanese. Microsoft could make a World War II game that's feature Chinese/Koreans (as the struggling "heroes" defending their country) and Japanese (as the invading imperialist) for the Xbox 360, Chinese/Korean would buy 360 like crazy just for that exclusive - because there has not been that kind of game before. PS3, being a Sony (Japanese) product, would never put that kind of game on their console.

[TANOD]

http://www.vgchartz.com/ehw...

ps3 murders x360 in EU....any doubt abt that

although x360 outsells ps3 in AUS the same is not true for NZ

in NZ ps3 has already overtaken x360 in terms of overall sales

SOFTWARES charts for NZ last week

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

:)

x360 doesnt sell in HK,singapore or any of those asian countries.

as for INDIA we hate x360. I am indian and we love Japanese products and European products. We dont buy US products
for x360 everything seems to be over

@round BOT

price cut didnt drive sales. It didnt drive anything in OCTOBER. It is increasing demand . Wait for more pounding in DECEMBER.

ps3 will beat x360 by atleast 500k in terms of WW sales in DECEMEBR

@round BOT tries so so hard to spin the fact that x360 is the least selling console in the world and is dead in EU and JAPAN

yes the PS3 outsold x360 WW but BY A DECENT MARGIN

:)

[ktchong]

Now he has to suck up to VG Chartz to save the PS3 from embarrassment! Now that's just funny.

Here's a reminder: Back in August, right after the PS3 had the first price cut, VG Chartz' worldwide data also showed that the PS3 outsole Xbox 360.... and VG Chartz turned out to be wrong. Not only the 360 outsold PS3, but by a decent margin. Remember? Of you do. ;)

[Ashta]

@The Round Peg: And you know why Sony wouldn't make a game like that? Because they aren't ignorant tools who want to infuriate an entire region back in to quarrels again.

The fact that you would even suggest such a game makes me question your credibility....even more so than I already had.

[the_round_peg]

PS3 continues to outsell Xbox 360 in Japan (and French, who hates Americans) - and a large part of it is because of cultural bias/preference or whatever you want to call it. Cultural bias/preference is a factor, whether Microsoft/Sony wants to deal with it or not.

Chinese and Koreans have serious grudges against Japanese - which Japanese still refuse to face up and even try to lie about to cover up history.

Microsoft is not going to do well in Japan simply because of cultural reason. The cultural factor is already working against Microsoft in Japan, the cultural factor is working in Sony's business favor. So Microsoft might as well used a cultural factor to their advantage. It's not something Microsoft can just completely ignore or pretend that it does not exist.

As much as Chinese and Koreans do not like Americans, they hate Japanese more. Microsoft can use that to its business advantage.

As for Sony - Sony does use its media power to make various Japanese propaganda. Here's something for you to look it up: Iris Chang wrote a book called "The Rape of Nanking", which offends Japanese because its reveals the war atrocities that Japanese had committed and is trying to deny and cover up. The book was adapted into a screenplay. Sony quickly "optioned" that screenplay -- not to make that into a movie, but to prevent other studios from making it into a movie. Sony - being a Japanese corporation - is making its business decision based on cultural factor. Look it up. The information is out there.

[HarryEtTubMan]

Please understand.... no matter what any lieing XBOT says... either the PS3 or the 360 won in November by a mximum of 100,000 consoles... and it probally wasn't that much. And it probally was the PS3... Either way... even if it is the 360... THE GAP IS GOING NO WHERE. THE GAP IS GOING NO WHERE. THE GAP IS GOING NO WHERE. PS3 AT 150$ MORE EXPENSIVE WITH NOT ONE HUGEEE GAME UNTIL 2008 IS KEEPING UP LITERALLY NECK AND NECK. P E R I O D. Yes, the 360 is winning the U.S. BUT IT WONT BE THIS WAY FOREVER!!! IT WILL NOT BE THIS WAY COME CHRISTMAS OF 2008... SERSIOULY LOOK AT THE PS3;S GAMES... THERE ARE ALOTTTT OF HUGE MAGE BLOCKBUSTERS COMING... ABOUT 4 THE SIZE OF AND EVEN BIGGER FRANCHISES THAN HALO!!!(Which have really boosted 360 worldwide sales...man its just destorying that more expensive PS3 that no one wants..... SIKE!!! HAHAHAHAH) PS3 IS DOING FINE I SWEAR TO GOD ON MY LIFE I'M NOT A LITTLE FANTURD! I hve both consles but the PS3 IS ALREADY KEEPING UP! PLEASE UNDERSTAND MICROSFT CANNOT WIN! THEY ARE LOSING ALMOST EVERYWEHRE EXCEPT THE U.S. AND I GUARANTEE YOU... THAT PS3 SALES WILL INCREASE MUCH MUCH NEXT YEAR!!! UNDERSTAND THE PS3 IS DOING FINE AND XBOT FREAKS TRY TO ONLY BLOW A 300,000 U,S, LEAD OUT OF PROPRTION...LITERALLY COMPLETELY DISTORTING THE SITUATION EVEN THOUGH THE PS3 OUTSOLD THE 360 IN JAPAN BY MORE THAN 220,000 IN JUST F@CKING JAPAN IN NOVEMBER HAHAHAHAHAHAHA GUYS GUYS GUYS. THE ROUNF PEG IS A BIASED LIAR. THE 360 IS NO LONGER WINNING THIS BATTLE!!!! SONT GOT WHAT THEY WANTED!!! THEY ARE NOW NECK AND NECK HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THE GAP IS GOING NO WHERE. THE GAP IS GOING NO WHERE. THE GAP IS GOING NO WHERE. UNTIL THE PS3 IN 2008 AND BEYOND. YOU DONT UNDERSTAND.

LOOKING AT THESE WORLD NUMBERS AND PS3's MOMENTUM

SONY
KNOWS
THEY
WILL
WIN!

THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A VERY VERY LONG MARATHON AND THE PS3 IS ALREADY KEEPING UP.... UNDERSTAND THEY COULD STILL WIN EVEN IF THEY WERENT TIEING IN THE WORLD EVEN THIS MONTH!!!

PS3 WILL WIN. IT IS ALREADY BRINGING IT.

[killax3563]

Stop it with your Chinese propaganda. Go play your popstation3 instead.

[killax3563]

Microsoft would never make a game like that b/c they don't have the resources. MS doesn't have the talent to make a descent game. they were bearly able to make Halo 3 and after that was finished bungie left.

Microsoft can't make software, can't make hardware. why the f*ck are they still in the console wars? they're incompetent.

[davez82]

only gives hype for those whom liked it on xbox 1 and we all know the userbase for that system, i think using that game is a bad argument.

Also, ps3 is the most expensive system, sony is pretty much tied up until mgs4 and gta4 come out, I think they've done amazingly well considering no blockbuster game has come out yet.

[FordGTGuy]

GTA IV isn't going to help them. Especially seeing as the Xbox 360 will be receiving exclusive downloads.

@TANOD

almost 50% of Xbox 360 owners were PS2 owners.......

[TANOD]

PLUS GT fans are mostly ps2 owners who havent made a next gen leap.

do u think any of them would even purchase x360 over ps3

[PiTCHBLaCK]

Thats actually kind of sad though if you think about it, sad for the 360, 50% of 360 owners are PS2 owners?, first of all there is noway of knowing this, no statistic what so ever, plus if it is true, wont they buy a PS3 as well?, expecially in 2008?

[The_Engineer]

you gotta love when xbots pull imaginary figures out of their culo.

Most diehard Ps2 fans I know laugh when the 360 is mentioned as they would never "buy that crap". That pretty much says it all. Most of them were waiting for the PS3 price to come down.

[wiizy]

good job microsoft on kicking the ps3's behind....but wii will win....but microsoft can stay a close second

[PiTCHBLaCK]

I say this because, Like the 360, they are built short term wise, not long wise, so they'll be discontinued about 5 years or more before the PS3 would be.

[power of Green]

Very true..

[Covenant]

Nice month, MS.

Now, maintain it.

Keep the games coming.

[Kokoro]

Microsoft and Nintendo deserve a pat in the back

[TwissT]

I think all companies should get a pat on the back even sony because the ps3's sales sky rocketed from October 120k and November 600k I think that should get a pat on the back as well.

[mboojigga]

Why do the majority of the post in this one sound like utter denial?

Maybe if you fanboys were buying actual games for the system instead of spouting about "wait for 2008" Things would look good for Sony. When you "big guns" for 2007 Uncharted in Rachet can't even sale as exclusives on one console......somthing is wrong with that picture. The NPD sales are available for you all to see the trend that has been on going. We heard the same thing this whole year wait until the end of 07.......NOW wait until 08 right okay.

[wageslave]

I cant agree more. Bubbles for you.

All year, we've heard, "wait until Lair", "wait until till Folklore", "wait until XYZ". Over and over.

Reality: Xbox 360 has outsold PS3 all year. Xbox 360 titles have outsold PS3 tiles all year. And just as MS has said, the the total spending on Xbox 360 (titles, DLC, hardware, etc) is more than half of the whole worldwide industry.

No one in their right mind can pretend that this is good for anyone except Xbox 360 owners.

[ForTheFallen]

Xbox is now without major exculsives. They played their hand. Sony? They're just getting started. It happened the same way with the PS2. Sony has the skill. Microsoft the money. That's why this battles been so drawn out but, in the end, brain always defeats brawn.

[Rasulis]

You sir are wrong. The PS2 was the first in the market and wasn't even close to the price point of the PS3. If anything the 360 is more like the PS2 then the PS3 is. Sorry to burst your bubble. Will see what happens though. The PS3 is, amazingly, not out of the game yet because of ignorant consumerism. Nothing like buying products solely based off of unfounded expectations.

[The_Engineer]

when you will idiotic xbots stop with the 360 is "like PS2 comparisons", that's an insult to the PS2 who STILL OUTSELLS THE 360, nevermind that the PS3 is actually selling MORE than the PS2 is. Yet the 360 can't even beat PS2 sales. That pretty much spells GAME OVER for MS. You weetodds just don't want to or will ever admit it.

Got it?? the 360 will NEVER be the Ps2, not even close, I doubt it will even reach the PS2's library over it's lifetime. I play "ignorant consumer" with the xbots at the gamestop over here and ask them what the 360 has coming out for 2008 to compete with the PS3 lineup and EVEN THEY ADMIT IT HAS NOTHING!!!!!!!

let me repeat that for you xbots too myopic and stupid to get it, the biggest xbots on the market ADMIT that it has no games for 08.

case closed.

[Rasulis]

Engineer your a sad individual. Why don't you go just sign your soul away to a cooperation right now, because it's going to happen sooner or later in your life; Hell, it seems you already have. I'm sure Gamespot, Microsoft, Sony, Viacom, and so on would love another mindless cooperate zombie like you. You're what's wrong with humanity.

You might want to spend less time at Gamestop and more time being a productive human being.

[slugg]

To see the PS3 fans talk about "wait until 08." Dudes, you been waiting for 2 years already, doesn't that get a little tiring? I mean, Home is delayed, games are still coming out on 360 first and looking better (Orange Box), and super-hyped games like Lair turned out to be a turd instead. If you wanted to point out that the 360 had a year head start, okay, fine. But even so, by now the waiting is getting ridiculous....

[man0fsteel]

ONE YEAR ... get it right ... 360 is 2 years

[TUFFnNYC]

Two years???!!! Im not even gonna comment any more. Your just plain ignorant. Sony just made a year. Lmao. Lmao. Lmao.

[gamesblow]

A little tiring?? Sort of like waiting for Microsoft to send back your xbox 360 after it's been broken for the 4th time due to overheating and lack of quality hardware?

[Xbox is the BEST]

the PS#2 had a year head start?
No excuses.

[PS3n360]

PS3 fanboys need to stop bringing this up because it makes the ps3 look even worse. Dont you think its sad that a console with 33% defect rate is still killing the PS3 in hardware and software sales? Since I bought a PS3 one thing has become very apparent, Sony fanboys are desperate and or blind because the 360 has better games and plenty of them. I am savouring Drakes because after that its going to be a movie player/media hub. Even UT3 just doesnt do it. I wish this wasnt true cause I traded in 8 360 games and my hd dvd add on to get the ps3, and so far I am only marginally satisfied. Get a grip.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

The RROD is a big issue, it needs to be brought up, it's consumer hardware that ya know, people spend money on?, MS Still shuns at the RROD, PS3 has issues to though, not many GOOD games and countless delays, but dont push the RROD under the cover in an attempt to Ignore it.

[PS3n360]

i just got to the Generator room in Uncharted and I am now completely satisfied. lol It had that OMFG factor I was looking for.

[Bombomb]

MS has not issued another price-cut so who knows what will happen the first to $200. Imagine that with GTA 4? Which is a system seller.

Anyhow as long as the 360 continues to sell and do well, sony will get better but its FACT, MS is just not going to stop coming out with games and reacting to sony strategy. Xbox fans will also continue to to buy games and content.

Developers will take notice as the Software sales are off the charts and the boxes continue to sell.

That's all it will take and we will see Xbox 720.

As far as sony they have catching up to do, but I know wait.. wait, wait, but wait, MS is not waiting for sony.

[TUFFnNYC]

Why would M$ wait for Sony. Anyway, there getting nervous though. PS3 sales keep rising and the margin between them are getting smaller. What i do praise M$ for is the year head start. Good for buisness but bad for the console since it makes a good bed side heater.

[Bombomb]

sony sales would keep going down to 1?

Lets be real we know sone will do a lot better with their big 3rd party titles and with cheaper price but that snot the point.

Sony has been the market-leader. From a business POV they are not satified selling as much as the 360, the original xbox only had about 25 million installment -base while sony had around 100 mill.

comepare that ratio..but of course fanboys just want sales to go up, but sony wants to keep it's market-share so it has to sell way better than the 360, Im talking about 500k difference a month.

[Daytona]

It had a slight margin only due to a price decrease, only due to a price decrease. Shall I repeat?

many people who are undecided jump on a price decrease, this will level out before christmas even. Xbox 360 wins over PS3 in WorldWide sales and especially in NA.

The ps3 has a tiny temporary jump in sales, so calm down it will decline back into it's cave very soon. The Xbox 360 is currently at around 14 million, the PS3 is at around 6.0 million and the Wii close to Xbox 360 numbers and by the years end I'll say the Wii and Xbox 360 will both hover around 16 million and the PS3 at around 6.8 million. These are well educated guess on all but are showing to be very true.

The funny thing about this all is that the PS2 is still killing your pathetic PS3. Sony may never stop selling the ps2 w/the ps3 sucking so bad. You know why ps3 fans don't buy games? They can't afford to after all that was spent on that console.

Dec. 31st 2007 Xbox 360 16 million consoles sold!!!!!!

[hotshot127]

yea ok, try about 7.3 million.

and last time we heard, 360 was at 12.5 million, now all of a sudden, you say there at 15 million?lol no they didnt sell 2.5 million consoles this month.

and no the sells arent gonna drop back down because the price drop took affect november 2nd in america and october 11th in europe.
november 11th in japan and we would have seen by the week ending november 28th if the sales were just a temporary surge.

not to mention, the ps3 just released singstar(huge in europe) and uncharted over there which will have sales rise again.

unreal will keep ps3 sells steady in america
and japan just got gtprolouge(which will bump sales)

your just wishing and hoping that ps3 sales drop again.

[hotshot127]

thats sad.

ok, only hit disagree IF microsoft has any game next year that is on the same level of halo sales wise. i challenge you.

thats really sad if you guys ask me. idc if microsoft had 100 tripple AAA titles next year. they will get overshawdowed by PROVEN FRANCHISES THAT PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW.

SCENERIO: kid walks in store and sees gta4 and then sees some other game that he heard was good. but he KNOWS he loves gta series.
im pretty sure, he's going to go with grandtheft auto and maybe check out the other game later.

people have to realize that next year, sony is running by with a mountain of proven franchises and they each sell to different audiences, so its not just a bunch of fps's, or racers for instance which means it will sell systems to a different crowd each game.

EDIT: HAAHHAHAHAHHHAHA @ DISAGREES. no matter how good of a game they release, it will never get as much attention as halo 3 did. so you guys are saying microsoft has a game bigger then halo 3 next year???......haahhahhaahah please...................FLATT ER ME

(sits back and gets ready to enjoy the show)

[Daytona]

Crawl back into your cave little man. The year is composed of 52 weeks not 2 weeks. The Xbox 360 has consistently whipped the ps3's ass all year long. That's WW too.

[gamesblow]

Daytona, I don't like you so I took bubbles from you and I encourage everyone to do the same. You remind me of someone with red hair and bad breath...

[Daytona]

Report common sence news and nobody gets bit.

But all anyone has to do is look at your past posting to see what a real twit you are.

You blow.

I took your bubbles away as well and I encourage any console fans to do the same, b/c well basically you just blow.

[Xbox is the BEST]

I love how Sony fanboys keep saying that the 360 has no games next year.

[Texas GMR]

The difference is, the 360 owner will buy it on the spot and the PS3 owner will run and ask his mom if she can get it for him.

If Gears of War 2 comes out next year, it will sell probably 2 million copies if not more in the first week. Which is quite a bit.

[gdguide]

http://www.ps3forums.com/sh...

Check it out guys. With the gains the PS3 made in Europe and Japan, the PS3 and 360 are actually about tied for the month of November...

[hotshot127]

and im not looking at just 2 weeks, im looking at the whole month. and im also looking at the bigger picture. which is the 360 will have no chance next year without a title like halo. and im not talking about kicking ass all year against something that was 600 dollars, im talking about NOW(SINCE THATS WHAT ALL YOU 360 FANBOYS TALK ABOUT)

its ok GAMESBLOW. im taking away 3 bubbles from DAYTONA NOW. and im giving you 3 bubbles.

[PimpHandHappy]

by the end of Jan08 the 360 will slow in sales and with the release of Omega Dawn and GT Prolouge the PS3 will continue to sell at this rate well into 08.

WW sales by the end of 08 will have PS3 up by millions and even in NA!

mark my words

[FordGTGuy]

GT5:P($50 Demo) and Omega Dawn will keep PS3 sales up to 400K a month after the holidays? I had no idea what kind of retardation could be found on this site until I saw that comment.

[TwissT]

concerned about SALES SALES SALES, We are gamers we should be concerned about GAMES GAMES GAMES.

[INehalemEXI]

The line ups show PS3 is bringing radioactive heat in 08 and 360 does have counters for alot of these coming titles but definitely not all.

Free PSN's game downloads are showing that sonys free network is superior. (i.e. Warhawk, Tekken 5 DR Online, GT5 prologue)

Wii looks like its stumbling in 08.

Expect a $50 ps3 price cut in spring along with Homes release and alot of great games coming around that time as well.

Wii and 360 are ahead but in for some serious competition. We seen 360 lose its lead. Wii know wii's longevity is in question though.

MS needs to make XBL free IMO if they expect to win this gen.

[jcgamer]

People will be Jumping In, Playing Beyond, and "Wii would like to play" (lol) for ALL of 2008...only a FOOL would count out any 1 of these consoles in '08...game on...fanboys stink...you smell something? lol

[Cusco]

Xbox 360 - all major titles expected already out
- had a launch that was just as crummy as PS3s, sales figures are about the same for the same time frame, WITHOUT next gen competition at the time
- people would buy less xbox360 if they knew about the 33% failure rate, MS didn't exactly print "caution this console has a 33% failure rate" label on it. If people knew they wouldn't buy it, as much.
- 3 year warranty to compensate is very nice :)
PS3
- expensive as f&*k at first, more affordable now
- some nice games, Uncharted, Ratchet and Sigma among others
- poor launch
- very low failure rate, and free online, FREE online
- generally better hardware, meant for longitivity
People, stop your bi*ching. If you want to play shooters get and xbox, if u want unique titles like ratchet and uncharted, get ps3. If your worried about the RROD, don't buy an xbox, but spreading the news may save some people alot of trouble. The point it, PS3 has been around for a year, and already it's doing a damn good job catching up. The Wii is a sad sad toy, sure it's fun if you're between the age of 7 and 17, it's cheap, it's family friendly, it's a perfectly disguised flop box for casual gamers, only it's not flopping, but rather owning the ^$%$ out of the market, which just goes to say that price point is the major determinant in any economics market...WHO KNEW? Sony saying that people will buy a $600 dollar just because it says SONY, was stupid and arrogant, but to be fair they are offering the better machine. The other thing is a lot of people don't know the differences between the consoles (online, wi-fi, blu ray, etc etc). My prediction, 2008 will be a good year for PS3, it won't catch up to x360 but xbox fanboys will shut up about the system failing. Wii sales will stagger, and PS3 sales will increase steadily. Xbox 360 will continue to thrive, RROD or not, it has a large install base, and decent games coming. Who will be the true victor, I don't think it matters. If you want your respective console to do well, go encourage your friends or buy some games yourself. But for crying out loud, I have to read through about 20 posts before I can find a decent opinion with some facts to back up his (or her) statement. Cheers :)

[BLACKJACK VII]

Kotaku SUCKS.

GameSpot SUCKS.

Destructoid SUCKS.

And so on....................

[JokesOnYou]

yet its true 360 has barely outsold ps3 worldwide for the month of November, why disagree? just because tonad/nasim/shmee says ps3 is outselling the 360 by 200k worldwide doesn't make it true, sure I know he'll keep saying it but you notice he offers no creditable source/links for all the numbers he gives. Fact is micro has exceeded all expectations this gen and you just got to give credit where credit is due, even more so to Nintendo, 'cause NOBODY saw them coming.

JOY

[mcy_999]

When 466K PS3 were sold in November, it also meant that 466K top notch 1080P Blu-ray players were sold. With the standalone BD players counted, it meant that 500K+ BD players had been poured into the market in November alone. It must send chill down to somebody's spine.

[Bladestar]

New Sony fanboy line, "PS3 beat the xbox 360 worldwide"... lol... how is that a good thing for developers... many developers don't even release their games in more than 1-2 regions... some games are not even translate it.

So, if the xbox 360 is able to dominate in the UK, US, Canada and other english speaking country.. what do you think Developers are going to think.. knowing that they can make 1 game... and milk it for the largers regions... instead dig into 100 countries... sell 5K copies of their games in Germany... 10K in Japan... 7K in Spain... etc... LOL.. having to spend money an resources translating the games... The US alone is worth 100 of these coutries... and you can tell in terms of attach rate and game sells... look at the game sells fo the countries you speak of... more hardware is being sold.. these people don't even buy games... even in Japan the PS3 sells more hardware than games...

Yes.. keep talking about all those small fracture countries as if they were more imporant than the US, UK, Canada etc..... lol.. they are not for developers... and I am not even going to say... the fact the income in these countries may allow them to buy the console.. but not many games... again.. not as much as the US, UK and other english speaking countries.

[bootsielon]

You don't need to make a game in every single language so that it sells, xbot. What do you think developers did in the NES, SNES, PS1 and even when the PS2 era began, you think all games the spanish, italians, germans, and so on where in their respective languages? Think a little bit, dumbass. Even then, you think "translating" is very costly? That's probably one of the least expensive features of a game, that's why you can find so many languages in games nowadays.

PS3 will most definitely beat 360 in japan, sooner or later in Europe, and if the trend continues and PS3 starts snagging many Japanese exclusives (likely), then it may overtake 360 in america later on. In the world, it's almost guaranteed to happen (thanks to japan and europe). In america, I'd say there's a 50-50 chance, it all depends on how RRODs are doing, how Microsoft manages the fact that they don't have the "three bees" anymore, how the PlayStation brand strenght continues, and how fast there is growth of HD products, especially blu-ray.

[season007]

i am from hongkong and we love japanese product
enough said
don't try to speak for other ethnicity or culture
thank you

[The_Engineer]

but hope and speculation is all xbots have to hand onto, by this time next year we will see the first of many cancellations for the 360 once it sales drop thru the basement.

[The 3rd Place]

You might love the Japanese but most 'normal' Chinese didn't see the funny side of being raped and slaughtered by the Japanese during WW2.

[ravinash]

Now there might be a cultural thing against Japan in China, but for the average kid on the street, they will buy what they think they'll enjoy most.
Japanese culture although very different from Chinese still has more in common than American culture to Chinese.
besides, the Chinese like PCs better anyway.
they'll probably even make their own console for the next generation, if theres anyone who can do that, its them.

[InMyOpinion]

At this time in it's lifecycle the PS3 should sell better. 360 is in it's 2nd year, already has a much larger install base and is still outselling the PS3 like crazy. I don't think the PS3 will ever catch up. Sony fans are usually wrong with their predictions. Anyone remember "2007 will be teh year for teh PS3 OMGZ xbots!"?

The software sales are the most amusing. Where are the so called AAA games for the PS3? Uncharted? Ratchet? What do you think the developers are thinking when they see these numbers? Ubisoft? Activision?

[etownone]

I just really dont understand Sony fans? why the blind loyalty?
there are over 10 AAA (rated higher than 9 on metacritic) and only TWO on PS3, and those two are multi-plat. IF you guys are truly gamers, stop bashing the 360 like little kids and accept the truth. The 360 has the much better games at this point.
And in 2008, we all know MGS and KZ are coming out, but do you guys think the exec's at M$ are idiots? They have that HALO project by Peter jackson coming out, GTA4 with exclusive content, Ninja Gaiden 2, and Gears of war 2. Those are four AAA blockbuster proven franshices that will help sell MILLIONS.....and not too mention the inevitable price drop.

M$ can easily take the games out of the premium and drop it to $299 and drop the arcade the $199...THE PROVEN SWEET SPOT!!!

c'mon guys, i'm not dissing the PS3, but the people at M$ are smart guys and they know what they are doing. They only thing I believe that could really boost the PS3 is if Hd-DVD dropped out of the format war tomorrow, but thats not gonna happen anytime soon, so PS3 is going to have a very very difficult time playing catch-up to 360 next year.

[moolox]

US sales idiots. Did you know they sell more american cars in america.

Global sales chaps not blind loyalty.

FACT: PS3 is out selling the 360 globally now. European sales are 200k over and APAC about 150k balance this out and the PS3 has a 50k global monthly lead. 360 is outselling in the UK but add all the France, Spain and the rest up and ps3 is outselling.

MS are now messing up. The silver account onslaught is one example as burnout is available for all on PS3. The amazing movie service is a joke as most of there base have no or a 20gig drive. Looking at my standard set last night i could get one movie on my prem and at 5.1gig its no going to be a good HD cut. And the fair trade guys on there back about pushing live and not mentioning the £40 pa.

All change

[Sez]

what sonyfanboys fail to see is that this is the holiday season where people are shopping for x-mas gifts. in saying that of course the ps3 sales is going to get a boost.but the ps3 should have sold much much more in nov. i mean with the price drop and R&C,uncharted. the same games sonyfanboy have been promoting since being announced. yet it only sold 417k for the month. thats sad. again it should have sold on par with the 360. i expected the ps3 to sell like 500k to 650k. what a disappointment.but all that aside. the question will remain can ps3 keep these sale into next year. i mean with KZ2 and LBP coming out in sept. leaving the next three month with nothing to get people excited about buying a ps3 until MGS4 comes out in april or june. i don't see the ps3 maintaining those numbers until june of next year. maybe

[wiizy]

i will back microsoft fans up.. cause the wii and xbox360 are killing the ps3...numbers says it all.....and 360 games are starting to sell as much if not more then sony in japan on first week sales... and sony fans want to wait till 08, oops 09 for what....another price drop, games.. as if microsoft and nintendo will lend them a hand by not releasing games and dropping their prices as well....how some people think...i just dont get it

[jcgamer]

bubbles up...I sometimes feel like it's something the Sony-only guys know that the world doesn't when it comes to 08...did they get a secret message from Ken on the PS Store about a BOOM Day? Do they really know when KZ2, LBP and MGS4 drops? Is it really the spring? Around GTA4? Is it a special price drop around the corner...Is January 1st 2008 the day the Wii and 360 vanish? Where their technology is suddenly dated? lol

[hardcorehippiez]

last time i checked it was still 2007 and this rise in sales for ps3 will continue. people now know the xbots are full of sh1t and will lie just to make the xbox seem better than the ps3. except one problem people have now witnessed the failure for themselves ( rrod ) and word of mouth is spreading and thats 1 thing you xbots cant control. i liked my xbox it was good for what it was, a step up into the next gen systems at an affordable price but its now real soon going to start showing just how dated it is .

@ jc yea to the xbox owner who is not biased i agree with you. but those that deny the problem and fail to do something about it only prolongs them actually sorting the problem out. i am not slamming the xbox games because i am a gamer and i liked the few i did have on the xbox( tenchu gears and forza )but until they fix the reliability of the junk that is 360 ill not be purchasing another. once bitten twice shy so to speak. i wish they would sort it because evry generation so far i have had 2 or more but i aint taking a step back with wii.the 360 as it stands can match visually with the ps3 but thats not to say it will keep up but still in all i would still like to have a second system because having options is always better in my opinion .

@jc i thought like that as well my m8s around me was dying and mine was a launch system some of theres was a year younger than mine. i thought i was the lucky 1 and didnt believe the problem was as bad as it is . guess i was wrong huh. anyways bubble for you too .

[jcgamer]

RROD? You act like it's some big secret...lol...so what is the PS3 suffering from? GSOD? Game Sales Of Death? and why only mention the 360? In November, the Wii outsold the PS3 2:1, not the 360...yeah, Sony has fish to fry...2 fishes...if they want the #1 spot...and CoD4 360 outsold Mario...yeah THE Mario...a 3rd party multiplatform? Yeah...Cheers to 08, what a ride it will be...

EDIT: @hardcore, I hear you buddy, nothing personal...I understand anyone's concern with hardware reliability...personally, I haven't experienced it yet, but I may...I wish Sony the best...and they made the best hardware, no doubt about it...bubbles up...

[bigjclassic]

SSBB, GTA4, MGS4, KZ2, Mario Kart Wii, Fallout3 are going to be the biggest games and will probably over shadow anything else. (sorry forgot GT5) and those games will sale plenty of copies and consoles.
Demand for Wii wil be consistant threw 2008 with some MAJOR games coming (MKWii, SSBB, FFCC:CB, NMH, ACWii etc.) Demand for PS3 will be HUGE as well (dont need to name games becuz we already know), But where's M$?? I hope they dont think a bunch of ports (PC and PS3) are going to keep them in the race.

[DJ]

Just don't mention worldwide sales to them. They might slap you with a cease-and-desist order. =P

[InMyOpinion]

Where's Uncharted? Ooops! Better post some of those Blu-Ray sales numbers cause the PS3 don't seem too fond about buying games lol!

[captainjy]

If Sony didn't force feed Blu-Ray to their customers, they may actually be in this generation. They took a very big risk on BR and may end up losing because of it. They are practically giving their consoles away and still they sit on the same shelves. The PSN service pales in comparison to Live, their titles are inferior and their users are even worse. So what, they sold 466K consoles. MS sold 700K and has been chugging out consoles for months. The 360 is stronger than ever.