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Submitted by GameBadger 947d ago | news

Internet Blackout, Gamers Fight Back

January 18th, 2012 is a day that won't be forgotten. Gamers, Google, Wikepedia and others are fighting back against our rights to the freedom of speech and the integrity of the internet as we now now it. Controversial as sharing music or video game content is on YouTube, it's important to know what's valuable to our country and this objective report attempts to sum it all up. (3DS, Culture, Facebook, Google, Industry, Nintendo DS, PC, PS Vita, PS3, PSP, Tag Invalid, Tech, Wii, Xbox 360)

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JerryMatters  +   947d ago
I dont think posting a gameplay video on YouTube should be a violation of copyright, but I can see their point about how it could hurt sales or purchases if the ENTIRE game is posted on YouTube.
tigertron  +   947d ago
but then you miss out on playing it. What retard would watch the game being played and not buy it, if they thought it looked good?
Ask the Kingdom Hearts fanbase.
rezzah  +   947d ago
@ExgamerLegends
I never played them all, but did read the stories of the KH games not owned on wiki.

It attempts (succeeds for others) for you to purchase various gaming systems in order to learn of the entire story.

Imagine owning a system or handheld for 1 game.
This is the point.

And no you can't use the excuse that there are other games that person would enjoy because money is a limit for various people.

We cannot point fingers and tell them what is also affordable in our eyes, so that they should have enough to buy it...again for that game only.

Also why wait year for the system to lower below $100 (which it likely won't do within 5 years) when you can either learn of the story on youtube or Wikipedia?

In this case I believe the problem to not be the possible consumer, but the decision of the developer to span their series of an average of 1 game per system (america).
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Kevin ButIer  +   946d ago
that bat in the pic is epic... meme please
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orange-skittle  +   946d ago
That's not a bat you moron, it's a honey badger! Boy are you stupid. They used a honey badger because it's the most "I DONT GIVE A F-CK" animal in the world. Youtube it and see why. Impervious to poison, be stings, and toxins. It will not back down to anything and will kill just because. Looks like a skunk and ferocious like a wolverine.
gaden_malak  +   946d ago
And friendly as anything. Got to pat one in Cape Town.
Tainted Gene  +   946d ago
@Orange Skittle and Kevin Butler

*que jingle*

The More You Know...
CarlitoBrigante  +   947d ago
People can post the FK they want, if you dont wanna watch the whole game on youtube then don't watch it.

No need to write a whole article telling us whats "valuable for the country" LOL
jeeves86  +   947d ago
If SOPA/PIPA were to pass into legislation, then no, you 'couldn't post whatever the fuck you wanted because more than half of what people post online could be considered some sort of copyright infringement. The broad language of the bill is what's alarming.

I honestly can't think of a site that wouldn't be affected by this kind of legislation. The fact that so many brush it off so callously is...also a little alarming. Even if only because you may not understand the full extent of it.
IcarusOne  +   946d ago
Carlito, you need to wake up and become aware of these bills and the damage they could cause if passed into law. Jeeves is totally right. As for this article...

"...are fighting back against our rights to the freedom of speech and the integrity of the internet as we now now it."

The author lost all my respect with this one sentence. Proofread your shit, gentlemen. I weep for the written language sometimes.
CarlitoBrigante  +   946d ago
Guys I'm not supporting the SOPA facists, I'm against these people who act like the lapdog of SOPA supporters, who try to dictate us what can and what can't be uploaded to the internet.
SilentNegotiator  +   946d ago
Whose fault is that? The developers for making a movie instead of a game, that's who.

Anyway, people not against SOPA/PIPA have no idea what it entails and don't realize that it was written by Hollywood, FOR Hollywood. Hollywood executives would LOVE the power to shut down your site without taking it to court and have you thrown in jail for theoretical financial loss, but it won't happen if the internet has anything to say about it.
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bozebo  +   946d ago
"executives would LOVE the power to shut down your site without taking it to court and have you thrown in jail for theoretical financial loss"

this ^

But yeah here is where SOPA is just stupid:
You can write in a magazine or announce openly in the street etc. bad things about a company/product as usual, but if you post it online you may be f*ck$d.

Then there's the fact that piracy is impossible to prevent, though they can make deterrents and some movements to reduce it; it has to be done with care and understanding - which governments just don't have when it comes to these things.
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NewZealander  +   947d ago
I use you tube to help find in game hidden items, does this mean if this law goes through I wont be able to do that? dumb bill if you ask me.
SilentNegotiator  +   946d ago
And Youtube could be taken down forcibly, and the poster of game walkthroughs could go to prison if they got caught with 10 "violations"
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PENGUINKK  +   946d ago
That's just for PIPA. I believe with SOPA it only takes one violation.
IcarusOne  +   946d ago
Dumb doesn't describe it. Greedy, unconstitutional, and totalitarian are better adjectives.
tigertron  +   947d ago
All I know is that Youtube will get worse. Its already run by corporations and we've got way too many adverts as it is. Watching adverts before the videos really irritate me.
Dee_91  +   947d ago
I dont even watch videos on youtube anymore.
_Aarix_  +   946d ago
I either use adblock or use the youtube app on my phone.
banjadude  +   947d ago
Ha, I know what you mean. I recently formated my PC and forgot to install Adblock. Dear Lord, youtube is an AD nest!
tigertron  +   946d ago
Thanks for letting me know about Adblock, I can't believe I didn't know about it! I've just installed it. =]
BiggsnWedge  +   946d ago
adblock is your friend yo. I never have firefox on without it.
bozebo  +   946d ago
tbph Youtube is probably very costly to run. They need those adverts to sustain it (though yes, they will be pulling a healthy profit too).

The thing I hate is that they will never make a system to vote off troll videos because they extend the time you are on the site >_<

But that might be caus I use adblock and am not suffering from the adverts... yes, I'm a hypocrite but what of it? :D
mynameisEvil  +   946d ago
Is AdBlock on Chrome? Because YouTube is really starting to piss me off more and more.

The irony is that the company that's pissing me off has the browser I'm using. Damn you, Google, for making my web surfing faster! DAMN YOU. NOW GIVE ME MY TUBE OF YOU BACK.
bozebo  +   946d ago
It wasn't available on chrome last time I checked :(

Or at least, the really awesome version that works nearly perfectly and blocks video adverts too :D
rattletop  +   946d ago
yes. it is. it's been on the chrome web store for more than a year now. i am currently suing chrome and it's absolutely ad free
roguewarrior  +   946d ago
rattletops right its been there for a while, but the firefox implantation was superior, don't know if it still is. Furthermore, AdBlock doesn't block the embedded Ads( the little yellow line in seek bar that triggers a popup ad) in chrome, in my experience anyway.
Asgaro  +   946d ago
Lol, you can soo easily circumvent that.
Google "adblock plus".
NYC_Gamer  +   947d ago
fk internet censorship.the author of this article wants that lock down version of the web that's used in china.
JerryMatters  +   946d ago
Actually it looks like the author tried to be diplomatic about it on both sides. One side is fair rights, and the other is the fair rights of creators. If we want to enjoy expensive entertainment it needs to be paid for. The problem with all three solutions (bills) is that no matter how to you try to enforce illegal sharing bit torrent sites, the more you take down, the more that will continue to appear. They are like cockroaches, or drug dealers.
Hozi  +   946d ago
Developers need to have better protection for their content. It's not our fault they let people steal copies of they product. They make millions if not billions of dollars in the entertainment industry today. They are set. But we the little people actually use the internet for beneficial purposes sometimes making our living via the internet. Whatever happened to Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Rights.
Conzul  +   947d ago
"Gamers, Google, Wikepedia and others are fighting back against our rights to the freedom of speech..."

LOL, it's "FOR our rights", not "AGAINST our rights".

What a fail.
NJShadow  +   947d ago
Glad SOMEONE else recognized that. Man, that's just sad.
GameBadger  +   946d ago
Im just a gamebadger, i don't care. Meant against having them stripped from us...
JerryMatters  +   946d ago
I'm pretty sure 99% of the readers got what GB was trying to say.
Zha1tan  +   947d ago
70,000 jobs lost? way to pull a figure out of your arse without a source!

Millions lost? GTFO just because they didnt land another crisp 5 million on top of the 50 million they already got from their product. Money really is the green eyed monster.

Personally I pirate as a demo (since demos just dont seem to be cool anymore according to the very publishers and devs I address.) and unfortunetely to tell you developers and publishers if your game is SHIT, funnily enough I will NOT buy it.

Its either two things when Devs/Pubs blame Piracy, either they did not get the money they were hoping for or their game sold barely.

e.g Dice/EA late last year accused piracy of lowering their sales!

What an arrogant bloody statement, you mean to tell me your single player was so worth buying the game for? that 5 hour COD BO rip off which turned into a point and click game halfway through? You ACTUALLY think your SP was genuinely good? Sorry to break your little heart John Ricta...Ahhh it does nt MATTER what your name is but your SP was just plain ol crap sir.

THen you get the other developers, Devs of Brink "piracy boo hoo", Codemasters Devs on twitter with mumurs of "piracy" NO NO AND NO your game was just flat out SHIT.

Hollywood Aswell is spewing buckets of tears about not getting enough revenue (my arse with actors still recieving rediculous fees).

Can anyone remember the last film actually worth going to the cinema to see?

My opinion: To avoid Piracy make a better product because when something is genuinely of value and worth buying you should have every confidence it will be supported. e.g Half Life 2, Dark Knight, Skyrim, Dark Souls, Uncahrted 3, Gears 3, Witcher 2 etc etc etc.

Disclaimer: This post may seem brash but I dont condone piracy in anyway, I use it as a fair trade option when trying an unproven product e.g Demo and that is the extent of my piracy use.

But attt the end of the day its all just advice to greedy companies, thats all it is, its just an opinion...But..

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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BiggsnWedge  +   946d ago
Although it is a long rant I agree with you 100%. I also pirate games and am not afraid to say it either. When there is generally no demo to test on my PC(cause I'm not generally sure if it will run properly or not) but I generally buy games that I like after I *try* them on Steam just because Steam has such a good service. EA's Origin on the other hand is a piece of shit and they support SOPA&PIPA(funny enough that Origin scans your PC files) as well and have been pushing out the online passes.
GameBadger  +   946d ago
70,000 jobs lost is per the first SOPA Wiki link, if you read the whole thing you'll find it. Wikipedia has been a pretty good source of accurate info, especially when cited.
KRUSSIDULL  +   946d ago
But why would you download a game you think is shit? And lets be real pirates does not buy a game they already have downloaded.
Zha1tan  +   946d ago
"Personally I pirate as a DEMO"

Did you read and comphrehend fully what I said? It is clear you did not.

I pirated Skyrim earlier in the year to test it out and I liked it, next week £120 spent on the collectors edition.

Witcher 2, Pirated and purchased the next day on steam.

Dead Island, Pirated and bought.

Amnesia pirated and then bought the next week.

If I like something it gets supported, If I dont the game just gets deleted off my Hard Drive.
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roguewarrior  +   947d ago
Sopa/Pipa is about so much more than gameplay vids on Utube. How many of our avatars are copyrighted, or how many comments have I read, that say " F buying this game gonna to Torrent it". If this bill passes that's all it will take, to shut down a website. For "Promoting Piracy"' furthermore the onus is on the website to prove their innocence. Guilty until proven Innocent, this would bankrupt all but the largest Corporations.
problemchild84  +   946d ago
Also i think it's important to realize that if these bills pass the decision to remove content falls onto all these 70+ year old judges that most likely won't understand what it is they are even looking at.
roguewarrior  +   946d ago
Agreed, but it would only come before a judge.If for Example, N4G decided that their gonna fight the Copyright/Promoting piracy claim, on a case by case basis. which would bankrupt them eventually, even if they win every case. I could go on, this bill is the wetdream list, for big entertainment.

Not to mention the fact that Sopa/Pipa will not stop piracy. I already have a VPN, and have installed the "DeSopa" FireFox extension that will circumvent DNS, and use IP Adresses to get to sites that have their DNS blocked.
Der_Kommandant  +   946d ago
Today was a very sad day without NG4
mynameisEvil  +   946d ago
Yes, though let's be happy that we had a day with fewer trolls and overall peace in the gaming news landscape of N4G.

Not that the trolls really had a choice, but let's not spoil the moment.
Dasteru  +   946d ago
And all for nothing too,

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/n...

Too bad so many people N4G including aren't paying attention to the latest news about these things before they "protest" it and needlessly screw people over.
ChiVoLok0  +   946d ago
Hope if it does happen (please don't) they should also censor Facebook.
JAMurida  +   946d ago
I just want to say much respect to the people at N4G, the sites and everyone out there against SOPA/PIPA. I honesty didn't think N4G would of blackout as well, but it's nice to know what you guys support, on the behalf of the gaming community, thank you!!!
sovietsoldier  +   946d ago
loss of freedom effects everyone,so we should all stand together and say no .
Mickbelfast  +   946d ago
Gamers fight back ??? LOL
THC CELL  +   946d ago
This site had the cheek to fight and we have no freedom of speech here. Not with dodgy mods,bubbles,fanboys , news approving and so on ...So well done n4g you really served well ,not
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ACEMANWISE  +   946d ago
This video explains how the same people who scream piracy are the ones that distribute the software!

Related video
LOL_WUT  +   946d ago
I thought the blackout on N4G was going to be for 24 hours? Oh btw i'm in california.
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smashcrashbash  +   946d ago
@ Zha1tan. Okay two things are wrong with your little rant. First of all demoing a game as an excuse for piracy is a weak excuse. People are not as saintly as people seem to try and make them out. Saying it is okay to pirate because you want to demo a game is not a good excuse. You buy the game like you used to do long before in the old days based on opinions, research and scores.

Saying it is okay to pirate because you want a demo is not a solution because even if a thousand people are nice enough to actually buy the game, five thousand people might decide it isn't worth buying the actual game when they could easily pirate it even if they like it. That means five thousand potential customers who might still have brought my game gone.

Also you statement which I hear people saying all the time about 'just make a good game and everyone will support it'. Okami was a well crafted, well thought out, highly scored game and yet it was ignored by many gamers. What constitutes a 'good' game in people's eyes? Rayman Origins was better then any Mario game released by Nintendo in the last few years in my opinion but it sold so much less. Was a crappy,glitchy badly done game? No. But I'll bet that didn't stop it from being pirated by people who couldn't tear themselves away from the mainstream garbage that people constantly buy to try and support it legitimately.

So no offense but the excuses for pirating games and anything else are very weak and lame. You can do it if you want but please stop trying to spin it like you are doing someone a favor. The people whose games and companies go down the tubes because they couldn't take the losses that things like piracy do to them I am certain don't see your point of view.

I am sure they don't appreciate the fact that you are stealing the game and then tossing it back in my face if you don't want it with the pirate getting the profits and me the maker of the product getting nothing.At least if people buy it legit and bring it back to the store the developer still gets his profits.

But if you steal it and don't buy it at all I get nothing. Who says that you won't like the games for petty, stupid, idiotic reasons like many gamers do? R3 was hated for very dumb reasons when it was a perfectly good game. So in short I, the developer, must rely and condone the chaotic results and pathways of piracy instead of the well thought out legit ways of selling my game? I must rely on you paying someone who did nothing but steal my game, you taking what belongs to me, so you MIGHT buy it? How is that compromise?
darkpower  +   946d ago
WHAT?

1. Not the right title, and the quote on here doesn't even appear as a quote in the article. The person who submitted this article put his own opinions into the description. And the words he used are extremely misleading, anyway, since last I checked, most of the gaming content makers on YouTube, including TotalBiscuit and Jessie Cox, were firmly against the two bills.

2. About the 70k job loss claim, that was a figure the MPAA, someone who not only supported SOPA/PIPA but also tried to say that video cassette recorders would destroy their industry, claimed. It wasn't proven fact, like the article tried to claim (and Wiki did have the reference to the MPAA making that claim).

3. This guy is a joke. I said that we should like people play homebrew games on their PS3 without consequence and stand true to that, but seeing what this guy was actually trying to sell as a game, and for the amount he was trying to sell, I would say ANY homebrew proponent would have second thoughts. He's trying to peddle crap like that and then overprice that. No wonder people would pirate that crap. I bet the pirates STILL feel ripped off that they would spend so much time.

4. Okay, so YouTube HURTS the game industry? So the people who made indie titles like Nation Red, Rock of Ages, or Amnesia suffer because people like TotalBiscuit decide to feature them for his WTF is series? On the contrary! Though I don't have the hard sales figures, from personal experience, it's gotten me to want to try several games that I haven't tried before, and to buy games that I wouldn't buy otherwise. This guy has his facts completely backwards on that subject!
no to any kind of censorship. period.

this isnt china.

Dont like it? move mother****er!
tsn  +   946d ago
A law has passed in America that the gov can put you in jail with no trails nothing just an acusation.

Mix this SOPA and PIPA together and you'll have alot of people going to jail, oh yeah and they have plenty of space for people in jails so thats no issue there since there is a FEMA camp in every state.

Protest on the street against the gov? you're a terrorist.

oh yeah and they make money from people in jail its a big business.
Britainz-Fin3st  +   946d ago
This is not good news, there reasons are only excuses, its purely about controll of the masses and how much extra money they can make from this.
Zephol  +   946d ago
SOPA is a shit
MakiManPR  +   946d ago
N4G did an excellent Job
Razongunz  +   946d ago
oh n4g is back yay! but it hasnt been 24 hours since the blackout...and it said n4g will b gone for 24 hours when they shut it down, oh well i'm happy.. finally got something to do xD
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LFC1EE  +   946d ago
Who on here has never watched music they liked on youtube, who on here has ever download a song they shouldn't have, who on here has ever watched a pirated dvd or any program they wanted i rest my case?
Come on we all have i mean we are not costing them millions or even billions before piracey on the net you could tape the uk top 40 singles chart and if you had 2 video recorders you could copy movies and copy computer games for your zx spectrum and so what you are hearing is rubbish, and how many of you actually go to the cinema every week % it's a conspiracey to stop information on the net and turn the world into a police state i mean we only have to go into the street your being watched by cctv look at the bigger picture guys they want to control everything we are doing fact, what music we like what game we like what coffe we like, what food we buy fact.
It's controlling the masses, "you listen to us" thats what they want, to control you!
We must take a stand! Like the usa, british, russian, french governments they critise the conflicts in the world but they sell the arms to them, fact controlling.
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GameBadger  +   946d ago
Well said.

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