What are the most influential games of the current console generation? Agree or not, here's five picks that make valid candidates.
Well, I love a new direction, and until Bioshock I can safely say I've never played anything like it before. Very few games can achieve that in their first outing.
+1 bioshock 1 was truly a shocking (in a good way) experience the first time a played it in 2007. even after that period, i have never been in an awe from a game this gen after bioshock 1
As well as Gears of War and the Call of Duty franchises, and a HUGELY influential game carried over from last gen to this gen "Tomb Raider" This game has been a major influence and is seen in numerous games including uncharted. However Heavy Rain? and LA Noire? Is this a joke? Their definately not influential, I feel maybe the author doesn't even understand the meaning of the word. HR isn't even a true game IMO. It's a watch point n click little title and LA Noire was a huge disapointment. Everybody crazes the faces look at the faces, well where was the exciting gameplay. Very slow paced and boring. To easy and the stories/cases were lackluster. The Gear series is copied by so many and has shown it's influence and yes the GTA series as well. Bioshock came out running w/such a unique feeling, the tone in itself was so exciting and then a great story and gameplay shines all through. Fallout 3 honerable mention. My hat's off to those.
"Everybody crazes the faces look at the faces" made me lol. But I agree about LA Noire and Heavy Rain not being as influential as suggested. Both games are great, but I wouldn't say they've led the charge on many clones of themselves.
Bioshock was the first game I played of this generation, this is after taking a break from gaming as a hobby for about three years or more. I'm still feeling the panic that took over me when I was sitting in the dark trying to relearn how to control a game, get used to the amazing jump in quality since the last game I played and get out of that damn bathysphere before the creepy mutant thing cut through the roof and killed me. Even though I felt Bioshock dragged quite a bit as it went on I'm still really glad it was my intro to this gaming generation. The whole intro sequence to that game is just the perfect way of saying, 'okay, put down your old games. THIS is what gaming is gonna be like from now on'.
Uncharted, Heavy Rain, & LA Noire shouldn't be there at all. What did they do, nothing that isn't done with new tech each year. Also, I hope like hell "scripted" play isn't the future or I'm out, thats BS! Where is Halo, with the Forge Play & Saved Film? That's innovation. People need to stop hating & force game-play in the right direction!
ur going to get flamed fir mentioning halo on this site. It has changed much in the industry such as the forge (i have never seen a map editor work that way) and the way the films work. while halo did not invent saved films or map editors it put a very interesting twist on them. besides before CoD4 halo was the series to beat.
I don't agree with Heavy Rain and L.A. Noire; while I enjoyed both games (well, mostly Heavy Rain, as L.A. Noire had a number of issues), I don't think we can call them "influential", at least not until some other developers make games that have been influenced by these two games. As of today, Heavy Rain is still prety much unique, its gameplay and its way of telling a story is still pretty much unique, as even today, most games come with shallow stories that provide little to no character development. And, still to this day, new IPs are somewhat rare, as big publishers usually try to keep it safe and create games in known universes; Ubisoft is still putting the "Tom Clancy's" logo on every single game featuring guns, if not, it must be an AC game. Activision is making a killing with CoD and Blizzard, EA is sticking to MAdden and Battlefield, etc.
indeed they arent influential Uncharted and Gears of War particularly the latter is veyr influential
Above. You going to deny that Uncharted took a lot from Gears?
People that disagree with this are idiots. Whether you like the games or not (I don't like Gears), they have influenced a lot of games, a lot of games have used various elements that Gears created or popularised. Heavy Rain and LA Noire, on the other hand, have not influenced any games. LA Noire hasn't been out long enough to influence anything, and I doubt many people are going to keep making games of the Heavy Rain formula; they'd get very old very quickly. It's cool to have one or two just because it's different, but for the majority of the time people still want to play proper games.
@zippy Gears fanboys tend to think Gears invented everything, even games that predate Gears lol. Fact is, Gears and Uncharted were in development AT THE SAME TIME. Neither could have copied the other. Crazy, I know. Uncharted, when it was still referred to as 'Untitled' as it didn't have a name yet, had PICTURES in little things called MAGAZINES a strong year before release that already show Drake in cover in the opening levels of the game. Around the pillars in the jungle after he comes out from underground. There is nothing intentionally copied from Gears. Not that nausea inducing CNN run. Not the QTE active reload. Not the 4 weapon loadout. Not talking with your finger to your ear every 30 seconds about "Roger Delta Alpha". Not the brumacks, not the vehicles, not the melee, not the undead father and undead wife, not the Unreal Engine. Notta.
Heavy Rain influenced nothing, Hassi? Many devs praised it and said they took influence from it. Off the top of my head, Fable 3 was inspired by Heavy Rain and Uncharted http://www.computerandvideo... Senior design director Josh Atkins: "I think you'll see... there's influence [from Heavy Rain] without question in how our interaction systems work and in how all [the player's] decisions work. "There was many things we liked about that game, but one of the key things that they did was that the decisions you made rooted into the game world. Your eyes are always fixated on the game world - you're not looking down at the interface."
I know. The only one on the list that I thought was influential was Modern Warfare.
I think a lot of people are missing the point of HR. The challenging/mature subject matter. The control scheme's (like it or not). The presentation. I think HR is a glimpse into the future of a much wider market.
But I still don't think we can call it one of the most influential games at the moment. This doesn't mean it's a bad game, nor does it mean it won't influence future games; but few, if any games on the market today, show any influence from Heavy Rain (or L.A. Noire for that matter). On the list, they include Call of Duty 4 as an influential game; just look at Homefront, and plenty of other games, for the most part FPS, but even some non-FPS games clearly have been influenced by CoD4. Will future games be more like Heavy Rain? In many ways, I hope they do, but as of right now, Heavy Rain is still unique; little to no game has taken a similar approach to story-telling, the story in HR is still one of a kind in gaming, as most games today come with place-holder stories, etc.
Gears of War for sure... But games I feel that are a model of whats to come Next-Gen = Uncharted, Heavy Rain, and GOW3... the quality of graphics with story/gameplay to match. Those games are a glimmer of what Next-Gen has to branch from in my opinion!
lol TEH PS3 EXCLUSIVEZ. GOW3 is awesome but it was the same as the previous two games. It hasn't spawned any great copycats, because it wasnt really unique to begin with. Its simply the best hack n' slash, nothing more. Heavy Rain was unique and fun but i don't see any real industry changing things coming from it. Uncharted was influenced by gears of war, and i agree that it will be the main reason dev's step it up on cinematics and storytelling integration, even though i'd argue portal 2 does it better. Demon's Souls/Dark Souls will hopefully change things up from the easy games you can play while sleeping.
Uncharted only used Gears for some covet mechanics, which Gears took from Kill.Switch. Cover-based shooting is only about 40% of what UC is.
@gin And uncharted's climbing and jumping comes from Prince of Persia, while their cinematic themes come from Hollywood. The other 60% isn't original either, and even if it was, hasn't been very influential to all of gaming. And that is what this story is about in the first place.
@gin How did Uncharted "use" Gears cover mechanics when they were both in development at the SAME TIME and pictures were out a year before Uncharted released, before it even had a name, that already showed Drake in cover? Don't help perpetuate that stereotype. There are too many newb gamers this gen as is who just got their first console. Gears does NOT own the 3rd person cover patent. MANHUNT ON PS2 had a freaking duck and cover system in 2003. Fast forward to 3:53 http://www.youtube.com/watc... 007 EVERYTHING OR NOTHING and 007 FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE both had a fully thought out 3rd person cover system YEARS before Gears and Uncharted. Fast forward to :57 and listen to Jeff Gerstmann talk about Bonds cover system http://www.youtube.com/watc... in EoN. Fast forward to 1:30 and see Sean Connery beat Drake and Fenix to the pop'n' cover gameplay in From Russia with Love http://www.youtube.com/watc... Nevermind Kill Switch, Fenix owes some royalties to Bond and Cash as well.
"Heavy Rain was unique and fun but i don't see any real industry changing things coming from it" The idea of a dynamic storyline, every decision you make throughout the game has a chance of changing the path of the story. Heavy Rain did this aswell as it could with current gen hardware but what Heavy Rain did manage to achieve in this respect will hopefully be the launching pad for what we will see next gen. Linear FPS games will not be the dominating genre next gen. Story telling in gaming has to evolve and new hardware should allow for this. As far as this article is concerned I think it's a bit premature sighting Heavy Rain as influential. I'm just hoping it will be.
"'influence' pertains to success, reception, perception from those playing and the respect gained from others who are developing games." Not "industry changing" or Alot of Games that copy said influential game.
Uncharted and Heavy Rain are both extremely influential. Didn't we just have an article detailing a lot of the devs favorite games this generation, and those two in particular were listed a helluva lot. Not to mention, I do believe there's been numerous articles where devs have explicitly stated being influenced by these two games. Hold on, let me check. Yep, here you go: http://blog.us.playstation.... BioShock and Modern Warfare were listed once each. lol GTA IV nor LA Noire were even listed. Here are just a couple recent influences that came off the top of the search enginge. Heavy Rain Fable 3: http://www.product-reviews.... (Inspired by Uncharted as well) Telltale's Jurassic Park: http://www.craveonline.com/... BBC's Sherlock: http://www.wired.com/geekda... Uncharted Tomb Raider Reboot: http://www.examiner.com/vid... lol Killzone 3: http://www.destructoid.com/... The next Splinter Cell: http://gnn.com.ng/2010/07/0... Yeah, there's a ton more where that came from.
What the hell are you smoking? Uncharted is a rip off of Tomb Raider, which is a rip off of Indiana Jones. Heavy Rain hasn't influenced anything. Those story heavy games have been around for years. Every play Myst?
their favorite games /=/ their most influenced. a lot of developers has being influenced by cod 4 and you can actually see the effects of this influence apparent on their games.
I love how people will disagree with you and by effect claim that cod hasn't been influential, yet I'm sure most of them will go on to complain about how it has casualised modern shooters...
Multiplayer, sure. But most devs are focused on single player, and I hardly hear any state that they've been influenced by Modern Warfare's campaign. When a game is revealed, what is the first feature shown off? Typically, the campaign. So, this is where I'd ask for examples. Of course, a favorite game is not necessarily the most influential, but more often than not they are. For instance, I'm heavily influenced by my top 10 favorite games of all time. I'm sure I'll borrow many designs without ever knowing it in the future. If you were a designer, artist, or other creative person, and you were asked for your favorites, wouldn't you list the most influential? The ones that affected you in some way emotionally, that'd you hope to accomplish in your own future works. Of course! So, in my mind, this is a ridiculous statement. For most non-creative types, your statement would make sense, but for those designing these games they are probably the same.
It's funny Neo. Senior design director for Fable 3 Josh Atkins specifically tells us how Heavy Rain and Uncharted influenced practical gameplay and design elements in Fable 3, then someone here tells us again that Heavy Rain hasn't influenced anything. It's a futile argument.
Uncharted should have a mention, the storytelling and cinematic gameplay raised the bar for adventure/action games, especialy if they're third person shooters. For Modern Warfare I think in my opinion that it's basicaly CounterStrike for noobs. GTA4.....I don't know to be honest I don't think it was influential on us or developers. The firsr GTA games were for games like Saints Row, Just Cause or any open world games but I don't see how GTA4 was.
David Cage.... this man invented an entire new genre, wish there were more games like Heavy Rain :(
He didn't invent anything. Games like heavy rain have existed forever. Shenmue isn't even all that original in this regard, though more so than HR.
See there you go.... your making positive conversations There might be hope for you yet.... (Im not holding my breath)
Call of Duty is the most influential, whether we like it or not. Look at todays modern combat games. A lot of them try to recreate the multiplayer and singleplayer of that game all the time. The game is a shell of its former self now, but we cannot deny the facts. Uncharted is NOT influential because no one has taken an attempt to recreate it. Unless of course the new Tomb Raider game openly admits an Uncharted influence.
You don't need to recreate a game to be influenced by it. Also, if a marketing producer forces you to put CoD-like multiplayer in your game, would we be right to assume you were influenced by it? No, of course not. It's done purely for sales... mostly. I'm sure there's some out there who are genuinely influenced by the game. Though, I'd have to question their tastes. :p Uncharted is influential. You're incredibly ignorant if you think otherwise, especially with facts staring you right in the face. The devs for the new Tomb Raider have openly admitted being influenced by Uncharted. Check the link I provided above.
RDR, GTA IV, MGS4, UC2, CoD4, Bioshock, Demon Souls, inFamous, Gears of War 1, Killzone 2, DAO, ME, ME2, Arkham Asylum, AC2 and Skyrim are the main games that I loved this gen. The game out of all them that I enjoyed the most was GTA IV. Sure you might think I'm crazy but its my opinion and I think that GTA IV gets too much criticism from non-critics. There has been one GTA ths gen so far. How many UC games? How many CoD games? How many AC games? How many Gears games? GTA IV, RDR and MGS4 are the only games on that list that haven't had sequels yet this gen. Do you know why? I'll tell you. Rockstar North don't put a game out every two years and Kojima Productions don't rush out MGS sequels. We need a break from all the franchises with frequent releases. We will now get that with Gears and UC. The Last of Us will be ND's last PS3 game probably and that and GTA V are the two games I'm looking forward to the most for 2012. The Last of Us has been in production since 2006. A quality studio like ND plus that much time can only mean good things.
GTA IV is my favorite game of this generation as well, along with RDR. It is great to see it in this list. It is absolutely deserving of its place as the highest rated game of this console gen.
I do get why GTA,Bioshock and MW are on the list, but the other games bugs me. I don't see where LA Noire has influence? It is a game that relatively few players played compared to some of the others and it does add a whole lot of new interesting material, but no developer has since used these techniques. Can we really talk about influence if nobody uses it as a ressource?
LA Noire is so overrated
heavy rain was awesome. I'm still sad that they didn't release all the dlc
heavy rain was brilliant.
Can one be called a true gamer if they take more than a year off of playing video games? Just the other day one of my friends that I haven't seen in years cause he was in the military told me he took a year off from playing video games after his stint with MW2. I told him that I didn't think I was capable of doing that.
LA Noire was a decent game overall it was just boring, repetitive, and slow paced. Reminded me of the game Mafia. Although Mafia wasn't boring and is a classic imo. I would add Assassin's Creed, Gears of War, Red Dead Redemption or Batman: AA to the list.
I completely agree with that list, as much as I want to disagree since I hate Modern Warfare, but I can't deny it was and is influential.
Heavy rain. It wasn't a typical video game because it was based off of an extraordinary situation but with very human consequences. There were no laser guns or power ups, only choices. I loved the game very much and the environments and character models were amazingly well done. I was at the edge of my seat when I played through those "test" levels.
and I quote... "For the sake of this particular article 'influence' pertains to success, reception, perception from those playing and the respect gained from others who are developing games" So, either the author is openly admitting that he doesn't understand the meaning of the word influence, or that he's arrogant enough to distort the word "for the sake of this particular article". Not only does influence not have anything to do with this little pigeonholed bag of criteria, but none of those games fit the bill in terms of this generation, save for CoD4. Love it or hate it, this was the game that ushered in the trend of modern militaristic shooters. A far cry from the previous generation that was littered with WW2, futuristic, and Vietnam shooters. Even GTAIV, as reputable as the game and the franchise are, haven't influenced anything of anybody in this gen. The GTA game that can lay claim to that throne is GTA III; that game, quite frankly, took the gaming world by storm. The subsequent entries in the series, although well refined, haven't had the influential impact that the third entry did. The rest of the list is comprised of good games that didn't, nor will they, influence anything. How does crap like this make it to the front page of any website?
Influence as defined by the dictionary. the capacity or power of persons or things to be a compelling force on or produce effects on the actions, behavior, opinions, etc., of others the action or process of producing effects on the actions, behavior, opinions, etc., of another or others. people buying a game, peoples opinion after playing the games fit well within the context of the article as outlined in the quote you posted. Influence means much more than getting others to copy like you are suggesting. Perhaps instead of disagreeing with one person's 'opinion', why not complain about websites posting complete lies such as: "THQ all but dead, cancels 2014 games, looking for a buyer" That is more indicative of "bad gutter journalism" than anything.
Games that actually are innovative battlestations pacific and shadowrun both do things i had never seen before my fav games this gen its just a shame they arnt influential we may have gotten some better games..
kz2 hands down best fps in years
Where's Gears Of War?
Why do people say "no one has tried to re-create uncharted", I remember a poor copy cat game out of India, I think.
Had water physics been done before Bioshock? I think so. Had driving physics been done before GTA IV? I think so. Had there been a game like Heavy Rain before? Deadly Premoniton. Had facial animations been done before LA NOIRE? Not to this degree but I think so. Had killstreaks been done before Modern Warfare? I think not. So the only one that can be labeled influential would be the killstreaks in MW. Then you've got to ask who did they influence cause I don't know of any other dev trying to get killstreaks in their game accept the COD franchise itself. Some people even think killstreaks are no fun and only further hurt a team that is already getting bushwhacked.
Exactly. Apparently, the author thinks that he has free reign to distort the English language and re-define words as he sees fit. "Influence" apparently means sales and acclaim in his world. Where have I been all this time?
GTA IV, Gears of War, Metal Gear Solid 4, Bioshock, CoD 4.
The only 1 I'd say influenced anything from this list would be Modern Warfare which has led to the over-saturation of FPS titles we're stuck in.
I applaud games like Heavy Rain that try and do things differently. Yes, there are alot of quick time events, but the game has a great way of keeping you immersed and feeling tense. Remember the Taxidermist and the Doc part? truely amazing. Lets not forget that many games now are using QTEs, I may not like it when they're overused, but in Heavy Rain it worked as it was a game that focused on QTEs, it wasn't tacked on.
I bought bioshock new for 9$, a few months ago,but never played, there was too many games to play at that moment. Reading your comments make me think I should really play it. 2011 was an incredible year for gaming, too many excellent titles.I'm not complaining,but it was hard to find all the time needed to play all those games. And then,other titles appeared, and sucked many hours of my time.for example, Rayman kept me playing for more than 20 hours. Some psn titles took many extra hours, renegade ops, another 10-12 hours.and the list goes on, with uncharteds,batmans,and many others.yesterday I finished the awesome motorstorm apocalypse,which has the most insane graphics I have ever seen in a racing game. 3 days ago I bought the dlc for gt5, and started a new game,from 0.I'm in the middle of the first crysis, still have rage to play, I played 10 % on dead island,I need to continue.I've done 16% of arkham city.I have crysis 2 waiting,need to finish the 1 first.I downloaded deux ex revolution from psn, played 1 hour, need to continue.I bought mass effect 2 New,in a shop,for less than 20 bucks,still need to open the box.sonic generations,which I offered to someone,last Christmas,can be bought on psn,for half the price,these days I will buy it: another 10 or more hours playing,I loved the demo,finally, a good sonic game.and not even talking about those psn games that absorb my time, like the excellent pool game, hustle kings,playable online against other people,graphics and physics are just insane. The list goes on, all this to say 2011 was great, and provided us countless hours of fun.thanks to this article and all your comments, I now need to play bioshock,it looks great. 2012 is gonna be awesome as well. 2 days ago Zack zero was released on europeen psn.I tried to post the news, but couldn't figure out how to make it so it gets approved. This game is gonna blow your minds,guys.its an action platforming game with a 2d side scrolling view, with incredible graphics.you're gonna laught, but last time I saw graphics this good,it was on god of war 3.you may laugh now, but when its released in us psn,you're gonna shit your pants.graphics,effects,particl es,lighting,etc,everything is soo good, its hard to imagine its a 700mb psn game.remember what I said: graphics in this game are as good as god of war 3.feel free to disagree and laught,but when its out,you return to this post, and bubble me :) And last of us look great as well,if gta5, along with (I hope)god of war 4, and many other games get released this year,its going to be hard to find the money and time,too play them all. Anyway, our dualshocks are going to suffer,that's for sure :)
I wouldn't waste my time on N4G then... GET BACK TO GAMING DAMIT !!! ;)
And if evolution studios do announce motorstorm apocalypse 2, for December 22, guys, we'd better find the ark... ;) Because when the first was supposed to be released, well, we all know what happened in Japan. Guys, if december was really our last month, besides spending time with family, if there was one game you would like to play, and finish, your "last game", what would you be playing?
How is Heavy Rain and L.A. Noire influential? Do you even know what that even means?
I don't know why Gears isn't on the list, if that isn't one of the most influential games of this gen, I don't know what is.
Great list man. Really agree with everything on here. I'm wondering if any games this year will become worthy additions to that list and I wonder--with all the rumblings of next gen consoles being announced this year--how much these games will affect the next gen games that would be released at launch.
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