It's nice and convenient to download movies temporarily to your new Elite 360, but wouldn't you like the option of downloading a movie and keeping it? of Course you would.
Hell no!! i wouldnt want to download HD movies it will take forever!!
I wouldn't mind downloading an HD movie I would just like the option of owning it so I could watch it for free at a later time rather than having to re-rent it.
I rather just own it if I can get it in perfect HD quality for only about $10. I think you come to appreciate the ones in your collection more when you do this.
wouldn't it be easier to just buy the blu-ray/HD-DVD version and have an actual physical copy?
i mean, a physical copy has a higher chance of surviving a longer time than something you downloaded onto Hard drives that can crash or mess up :/
EDIT: and let's be honest here. how often do you rewatch movies you purchased/downloaded? once a week? month? year?
you're going to permanently waste 8+ gigs of HDD space on something you will seldomnly watch?
(following reasons are based on premise you actually get to keep what you download, not just a rental)
1. A good on-line service will keep track of what you have downloaded so if its deleted or corrupted you can download it again. How many retailers replace a scratched or lost BD or HD disc? Hell, most insurance companies only cover to a maximum amount when it comes to physical disc media so they probably won't be much help if your entire collection we're stolen.
2. Might take up disc space but a 1-Terabyte disc will take up less space than buying the equivalent physical BD or HD discs. My home is a place for relaxing - its not a movie rental outlet where I wish to display all my disc cases. I use to own 300 DVDs and finding space for all the cases was an annoyance. In the end I kept the discs in a handy folder and put the cases in boxes in the garage.
3. In a wireless home its possible to stream media all around the house to multiple receivers from the same source device. If I buy a physical BD or HD disc the first thing I'd want to do it cut it to HDD so I could stream it wirelessly. That way I can, from any TV in the house, select from a list of movies, TV shows, etc and play them when I want.
Physical BD, HD and DVD discs are just a delivery mechanism for digital content. Once a cheaper, more viable alternative becomes available people will opt for it. If download speeds and HDD storage are the only concerns then its not really a concern as both are being addressed. You can now buy 1-Terabyte HDD units for home use (who would have thought that 5 years ago!), what kind of storage will be available in the next 5 years? Download speeds are forever getting faster. A sustained 10Mbps will download 10GB in around 2.5 hours. We are a few years away from a sustained 10Mbps but look at where we were 5 years ago with dialup.
Whether we like it or not, digital downloading is here now its just not yet reached the masses in terms of video content. It has however become the preferred method for buying music - ITunes anyone? Now, I remember people saying that digital downloading of music would never take off either...
1) aren't blu-ray scratch resistant?
2) the mere fact that you own 300 DVDs means you are either wealthy or are an extreme movie buff, in which case you do not represent the general public. also, 300 HD movies would take up a couple of terabyte HDD/discs which kinda makes the space issue a moot point.
3) again, you are outside the current norm of the public by streaming your media across different receivers. you are more advanced than the usual user.
4) Only in asian countries (jpn korea etc) has high bandwidth become the norm. western countries still have quite a while till they get affordable high speeds. in the meantime, HD-DVD + Blu-ray will corner the issue of keeping your movies.
5) the diff between downloading music and movies is that a song takes a few minutes to download, and put into a mobile device for you to listen at any time you want. how many times do you rewatch a movie on your ipod a day?
I think Blu ray disc are. They sure as hell feel like it.
dang sorry I missed this in pending. Microsoft Don't want you to... or is it Doesn't? Ah small matter really just funny is all.
Anywho I'm more into the hardcopy. I don't like to rent so I never did download a movie from thier service and only will if they let me keep it forever and ever... or until I would need more room
It should be "doesn't", but the original title is "Don't". You could fix it on this submission if you want, though, since it's a grammatical error.
If it was "Microsoft managers" or "Microsoft directors" you would use "don't."
first get your demo download speed up
i had times where i downloaded like 5 hours for 500 mb
would be pure HELL to download HD movies from the same service
Digital downloads in that context, of actually purchasing a movie, aren't feasible with a 120GB HDD. Storage capacity will need to be considerably more and Internet speeds, with bandwidth from the ISP's, significantly improved.
...of that you can be sure. You have to winder why MS did not go down the same route as the PS3 in terms of being able to substitute your own HDD.
To keep costs down. We definitely will not see digital distribution in the way of movies in this generation.
Wow it is obvious how this comments section will end up
I thought the whole point of owning a 360 Elite was so that you would have a ton of space for HD content. Guess I was wrong.
Think about it....It would create a ownership rights nightmare since in 3/4 years you are going to buy a new console ....so you would need to transfer the movie to another machine...or your PC...and then you have the copying of the movie and possible illegal copying....
Consoles are NOT permanent storage solutions. This makes perfectly sound sense. MS is basically making an online rental store...thats all its ever been really...and all it should be for "consoles" as they stand today.
they dont want you to own an HD Movie for the price of a rental, now if they charged 20-30 dollars for it, all the roving fanboys we cry! How dare they charge so much! how dare they host the GIANT 720p movies! how DARE THEY!!!
everything they come up with is a new way to screw over the consumer.
You spend all this money on their products & software but there is always a catch. Yes you can play online and chat with your friends ,but you will have to pay for that. Oh yes we do have a better XBOX360 WITH HDMI , it will be more expensive and you will have to sell the old XBOX you sat outside an waited in line for days so you can buy our NEW XBOX360. ...Oh wait , whats that you said you bought the Elite, ..too bad, cause soon you will want to buy the EVEN NEWER XBOX that has a smaller chip. Its ok, MS knows you will spend the money, even if our product FAILS 33% of the time. oh what, you need to type a paper for school, oh no problem , we can just charge you $500 for MS Office and then you can type your paper. ...The bull$H*t goes on and on. ..I dont care if the next xbox can fly , I will never support MS , NEVER !!!! ....A company that does not appreciate it loyal customers is CRAP! --See my avatar, the little princess is the xboxfanboys and Mario is MS. LOL
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Xbox Live costs $50 a year. I will gladly pay that every year until something comes out better and cheaper on a console. Windows Live is also included in your Xbox Live membership. If Microsoft was as evil as you say they would charge for both services.
The 360 did not have a price drop for close to 2 years unlike the PS3 which has had 2 already. The PS3 also undergoes feature changes not unlike the 360. Backwards compatability is now a premium option on the PS3 even though it was promised before launch.
You can hate Microsoft all you want, but you should probably come up with a couple good reasons if you want to preach your hate to others.
Don't waste your breath on this dude.. He is so blinded by his nerd hate that you can't reason with him..
@MiamiFrost: Go on hating MS but how about your spare all of us your worthless rant in a topic that has nothing to do with your hate for MS.
Another way for MS to take your money. Unreliable hardware,charge for XBOX LIVE and for movie downloads that are only good for 24HRS. U think about it MS's 3yr warranty is not that bog of deal they don't repair your exact console and send it back to U the give U a refurb. SONY and NINTENDO repair the one U PAID for its a major scam...
downloading a movie on their service is fast. The last time I downloaded an HD movie it was ready to play in 5 -10 minutes. The movie never paused. A movie bought under digital distribution will always last longer than buying physical media. If your hard drive crashes or you delete it you download it again for free.
The real benefit with digital distribution is buy once and play on any device.
Vongo is a good example of this. I can download a movie on my computer and either play it on my xbox 360 or my mp3 player or my pc. It costs me $10 a month for unlimited downloads. They are just rentals and expire after a few months, but who cares you can always download them again. You can't buy them, but if you do get an option to buy, the same model should apply.
Who the hell would sit and waste there time downloading movies , when you can go to the store and pick up a copy for 30 bucks . one its a waste of space. It should only be for gaming , music , photos , and watching a blu ray disc . one more thing I can take my blu ray copy and go to a friends house. while someone downloading will have to copy it blah blah blah blah...seriously . Just not for me but the option to do it is welcome .
What a pie'ce a' joke!
This is just another reason why Blu-ray needs to win... I'm glad it's kickin' the teeth out of HD-dvd and Microsoft right now.
I look at Microsoft doing this as the exact same as Video on Demand or Pay Per View movies on cable/satellite. What is the difference? The price is the same (My cable charges $5.99 for a movie on demand), and the download speeds are not bad. It justs gives us more options than the video store. As an adult consumer with discretionary income, I agree full heartedly with Microsoft - if I want it to keep it I will by the DVD or HDDVD. There are a lot of us from the generation before the internet that don't care for downloading items for ownership, but want a physical copy, something to hold - that includes our music, video games, and movies. Give me the physical thing every time, as I don't trust digital storage.
Cuthroat i agree with you.Once i watch a movie i hardly ever watch it again and when i do its usually over a year later.SO why should i bother downloading a movie and waste valuable 8 gig of storage when i could just go to my local retailer and get the hard copy.When it becomes a classic you can pass it down to somebody who would appreciate it,like i do with my games/cd's and dvd's.
I really like the service,its a choice that Microsoft is offering.And if you dont then dont use it.Microsoft is not forcing you to use it.Its just an added feature like ever other service that they provide on the 360.You either use it or you dont.its all up to you.
Once again, Microsoft offers you "the choice" to utilize their useless products that have no place with the XBOX 360 console itself.
Because if it's an arm and a leg, then you SHOULD be upset.
You think you'll ever see HD-DVD or Blu-Ray for that matter, movies on sale because of overstock? No. It's just another way for them to control and milk the consumer. Soon you'll have to start paying for the extra content that's included in these discs. I like having a library of movies. I like to refer to the covers to remind me of why it was so good and what the extras were. I like to be able to take it to a friends house if I want. F*ck downloading. I don't want to sift through some hard drive I have to have hooked up to my tv, I don't care if it's an Xbox or PS3. Plus digital download will just makes it easier to pirate.
Of course this rant only refers to quality films, not this capitalist, propagandist, Hollywood crap that squits out ever other day. Go ahead and download that disposable, forgettable garbage anyway. It's not worth revisiting.
Microsack, you just keep disappointing the customer more and more each day. Give it up.
They won't let you buy them because they want you to buy the HD DVD add-on. If they let you keep the downloaded movies it would be a little redundant.
"wouldn't you like the option of downloading a movie and keeping it"
no. now stop asking retarted questions.
I would rather shell out money on physical HD movies.
Microsoft don't want me to use proper grammar either?
Different strokes I say.. Some people just like to rent a movie once and then return it, some people want to watch the same movie 100 times so they go out and buy it. This is more along the lines of Pay-per-View(but cheaper). The service has been in USA for over a year now and I think if it wasn't doing well they would not be expanding it and continuing to invest in it.. So somebody is enjoying it.
I also don't think this is completely up to MS, the studios have most of the control of what you do with their content. I would think video stores who sell movies wouldn't be too happy about MS selling the content as well.
Go on... kick... scream.... pull your hair... at the innevitable future... there is nothing you can do. It's only a matter of time before it happens...
I no longer buy movies and this has nothing to do with Microsoft. Blame companies like timewarner, Netflix and others. For the most parts (noticed I said most parts) you never have to own a movie.
As digital distribution continues to take over the world...
(Note for those too stupid to tell): Movies on demand; where you pay to watch a movie via your cable company is a form of digital distribution. And no internet is required.
Did you noticed now that quickly (sometimes) the same day the movie (on disc) is release they are available for your cable company and even (some movies) on xbox live marketplace?
And if you don't mind waiting... one can wait 1-2 days for netflix to send you the movie you want... a small fee at month and you can rent for ever... with the price of one movie you can rent 10-15 during a month using netflix. How long do you think it will take before this model is applied to digital distribution?
Currently Microsoft have that model of pay a montly fee and download as many songs as you want for the Zune.
Why would anyone buy a movie? pay $20-$30 bucks to watch it 1 or 2 times? Those days are over.
Disc and formats don't have only digital distribution as enemy... but also price models such as Netflix price model which is now accross all movie rental companies like Block Buster.
Eventually, digital distribution will become more profitable to studios than discs... not only because they don't need to manufacture and ship anything... but simply becuase more people will use it.
Again.. I will remind you.... Digital Distribution is NOT ONLY content delivered via interent. You cable company.
Another enemy of discs will be IPTV.
The only reason why digital distribution hasn't destroyed discs is because of the influence of the people behind these formats... they want control.
This is why many studios do not allow their movies to be release digitally the same day as the disc. Example, one have to wait weeks or even month after the disc is released before your cable company or other digital services are allow to distribute that movie. That's now changing...
Only reason why companies are doing this is because they want to give disc to sell first... but with services like Netflix and others.. and people willing to wait 1-2 days... this is not as smart.
Renting movies has been done long before MS. It really depends on the consumer. Most people don't watch movies more than once, some people do. So downloading a HD movie is Great for people who only want to watch it once such as renting a movie. Those people who do watch movies over and over again should just buy the movie why rent it.
And they keep Failing. lolM$
Window's free 4 years +
Microsoft and Bill Gates can lick my sweat warm balls.
If you rent the movie at the local store... You have to bring it back
If you rent the movie at Video Marketplace... You have also a certain time you can watch it
If you want to own a movie, you go buy DVD, HD-DVD or BluRay.
Video Marketplace = the easy renting way, you don't have to go through the rain to your local video store
It takes way longer to download a movie, especially one in HD, than going next door to my neighborhood blockbuster, pop the movie in, watch the extras, take a nap, and return the movie.
Furthermore, with XBL Video Marketplace I don't even get the chance to forget returning the movie and pay extra charges, at least that way I get to train myself for being responsible enough ;)
Enh I view Live as just like an online Blockbuster. Or a varied version of the Netflix, "Watch it Now", online viewing program.
In any event I would still rather have a physical copy of a movie/game over a digital one. There is a greater chance of my hard drive crashing which would in turn force me to redownload any and all movies that occupied the drive, than for me to lose/break a physical disc.
Poor xbots, soon they will have to rent games and won't be able to own them lmao
Sadly, we will be there too :...( (WoW anyone?)
But in case I want to rent them, I'd go for streaming, not downloading. When I want to watch a movie, I want it AT THE MOMENT, not tommorrow, not 8 hours later. I want it NOW. 8 hours from now I might be busy or might forget I had an Xbox 360 anyway (like I didn't with my 3th RROD).
This article was not really about whether the consumers want to rent or buy, it's about the fact Microsoft doesn't want you to buy HD media. Therefore, they nominally support HD DVD as a hedge against Blu-ray and make a half-a@@ed marketing attempt to sell the HD DVD add-on.
Personally, I think their commitment to the add-on "solution" is best summed up by the fact the best sound you can get is DD and DTS, not the high def DD+ or DTS MA. Why would they want the consumers to become accustomed to better sound? High def audio just means longer download time and more disc storage on M$ servers when the digital download eventually (10 to 15 years) becomes standard.
M$ does not support HD DVD in any way that's particularly beneficial to serious movie fans. It only uses its support to act as a foil against the adoption of superior sound and picture that come with 1080p DD+/DTS MA/ Uncompressed PCM on physical media.
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