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Submitted by CranberryPub 829d ago | news

Can't afford Minecraft? Pirate it, says creator

Creator of hit sandbox-builder wants everyone to play his game - even if it leads to piracy. (Minecraft, PC)

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Pikajew  +   829d ago
More devs have to be like Notch
dark-hollow  +   829d ago
Not all indie devs can afford their games to be priated.
SilentNegotiator  +   829d ago
Notch can afford it, and they're using it to expand on their fanbase. You're sure to reel in some pirate sympathizers (psychologically), people who pirate the first game but buy the next, etc.

Plus "'Indie' (Because you're SO indie when you're reeling in 50 Mill.) Game Developer says 'Pirate My Game'" makes for good headlines.
"Oh yeah...Minecraft. That game I almost bought. I remember. I think I'll buy it now";
Making Headlines = Free Publicity.

You really don't lose simply by saying "pirate my game" if you've already sold millions of copies.....you attract people that I described. It's no skin off of his nose if a couple people pirate the game in the process of getting free publicity. Do you think Kotick sheds a tear every time a copy of CODMW3 is pirated?

I don't approve. Encouraging people to pirate, especially from such a position, is unhelpful to REAL indie devs.
Wenis  +   828d ago
Mojang IS an indie developer. It doesn't matter how much they're making... the fact is they are independent of a publisher..
kaveti6616  +   828d ago
His logic makes perfect sense. Anti-piracy people often don't understand it.

Think about this way. If you can't afford to purchase a game, then you're not a potential customer. Potential customers are people who are willing AND able to purchase things. So you're willing but you're NOT able, and thus if you pirate the game, you are not a potential sales loss.

It's true that there are some people out there who can afford to purchase a game but choose to pirate it instead. However those people may just as easily fall under the category of "able but not willing." In that case, they may also not lead to potential sales losses because they are still not potential customers. Hey, it's true. Some people pirate things simply because they can, and not because they're interested in it.

But there are also some people out there who are both "willing and able" to purchase a product, which means they are interested in the product and are able to afford it, but because the option to pirate it is available they defer to it and that is a lost sale.

The people who make music, video games, and movies, and other entertainment have no way of figuring out which pirates are "willing but not able," "not willing but able," and "willing and able." So they clump them all together and say they've lost a ton of money through piracy despite the fact that some of these pirates, perhaps a lot of them, were never going to purchase the product anyway.
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   828d ago
From the sounds of it, Notch is trying some damage control from all his mess ups. Unless Jeb said this.

Edit: Yep, Notch trying some damage control. It's funny how he never replies to tweets asking him why his game crashes constantly on some computers, why glitches from alpha are still in the game, and why it's such an intense resource hog and has memory leakage.

Edit2 :

Also the kid won't be able to play multiplayer.
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Lazy_Sunday  +   829d ago
What he means is that if you do not have $25, or your family doesn't have $25 to give you to pay for a game that will keep you busy for endless amounts of entertainment, then you can pirate it.

When it's acceptable:
If you don't own a phone
If you don't own a computer
If you don't own a house
If you live in a third world country
If the only computer you use is in a library

Otherwise you're a total asshole, the deal is great for the amount of time you'll spend playing it, rich, poor, or in between.
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ZombieNinjaPanda  +   828d ago
"If you don't own a computer."

Pretty hard to play minecraft if you don't own a computer. Unless you mean the family computer.
chevaliergod  +   828d ago
Lol I actually live in a third world country where it's really hard to get internet dollars.

I'd gladly pay for this game as soon as I can, but right now I'm playing a pirated copy.
Kran  +   829d ago
Yes. Developers need to be like a guy who would have a go at two of the Internets greatest minecraft players accusing them of things he soon clarified they did not actually do.

... :/

Disagreers: It's true though. I'm not hating on Notch, I just think sometimes he over reacts a lot. I mean he's acting as if Minecraft is so great that it needs to be pirated... thats kind of childish.
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vortis  +   828d ago
He also dissed Euclideon, which could be the greatest game engine ever made. I mean, more than anything you'd want to HELP someone make progress on a project like that, not hinder it with negativity.

Notch is kind of a douche at times.
iamtehpwn  +   828d ago
Bill Gates once said something to the effect of "If you're going to pirate, pirate *our* products. You guys don't get it. The reason they make remarks like this isn't because they don't want people to buy their games, but its essentially free viral marketing. They will increase the game's popularity through word of mouth.
Chaostar  +   829d ago
If you can't afford €19.95 you need to be out looking for a job, not playing Minecraft.

Support your devs people.
LAWSON72  +   829d ago
Actually most likely if you can not afford minecraft you probably don't have a decent PC to run it
RedDead  +   829d ago
XD

Decent Pc...to run minecraft?
Halochampian  +   829d ago
@RedDeadDestroyer

Yes.. Minecraft is quite intensive
Solid_Snake37  +   829d ago
@RedDeadDestroyer

wow the ignorance in your comment is overwhelming
360ICE  +   829d ago
@Solid_Snake
If you've been on the internet before you can't honestly say you find his ignorance overwhelming :P
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   828d ago
There's a huge difference between intensive and shoddily developed.

Memory leaks doesn't mean it's intensive, it means there's a problem.
Bloodraid  +   828d ago
@ZombieNinjaPanda
Please don't sit there and try to act like you know what you're talking about when you clearly do not.

Minecraft is written in Java, and Java has built-in garbage collection, which makes memory leaks virtually impossible to get on accident. Unless you're sitting there and creating endless amounts of new objects and holding their references forever, it wont happen.

Besides, even if there were a memory leak, the game would constantly give OutOfMemoryExceptions because there's no heap space available, which doesn't happen unless your PC can't doesn't have enough RAM available to begin with.

With that said, the game is indeed CPU intensive. Not only does the game need to render a hefty number of polygons, but it also uses OpenGL's immediate mode rendering, rather than using VertexBufferObjects and Shaders.

Oddly, their reason behind this was to make the game available to as many people as possible. But seriously, if your graphics card doesn't support OpenGL2.0 (which came out in 2004), what're the odds that your computer can even run the game anyway?
LAWSON72  +   829d ago
most likely if you can not afford minecraft you probably don't have a decent PC to run it
vortis  +   828d ago
If you can't afford Minecraft you probably also don't have the intelligence to play.
fullmetal297  +   828d ago
That much money? I bough Minecraft back when it wasn't mainstream and it only cost me ten dollars USD.
Nalrogi  +   829d ago
It seems like every dev is encouraging piracy in one way or another these days.
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Erudito87  +   829d ago
this dev is awesome
Blastoise  +   829d ago
I wish this game was coming to PSN
Swiggins  +   828d ago
Wish hard enough and it may come true! =D

I mean it's coming to Xbox, why not PS3?
Bloodraid  +   828d ago
Vanilla Minecraft is incredibly boring. Why anyone would bother with playing the console version is beyond me.
lorianguy  +   829d ago
Fair enough...
Perjoss  +   829d ago
instead of encouraging piracy, perhaps he could set up a site where you pay what you think the game is worth.
DragonKnight  +   829d ago
That's a good idea, but the minimum payment should at least be a dollar. It all adds up right? And they would get at least some level of support. Still, this kind of attitude from a dev is refreshing. They care more about their creation than they do about the money. It also shows that groups like ESA and RIAA (is that right?) are wrong. I heard of a music group, whose name eludes me at the moment, that actually put their own cd on piratebay because they never wanted to be a part of some action being taken against piratebay but the music copyright group (I really don't know what they are called, I should look it up) had put their name on behalf of their producers on the list of supporters of the action.

The band said that they care more about people hearing their music than the money and recognized that people like to get a sample of something before they buy it, so they put their entire CD up to be torrented and told the copyright group to never speak for them again.
HenryFord  +   828d ago
Nine Inch Nails is one of those bands, or to be precise - Trent Reznor:
http://www.news.com.au/tech...
pucpop  +   829d ago
or pirate it
SilentNegotiator  +   829d ago
Or you could even try pirating it, if pirating it or pirating it isn't an option.

Did you.....not even finish reading the title or something?
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DonaldBeck  +   829d ago
thats how i get all of my games, well like 80% of them, the rest are on consoles like exclusives. fun game btw!
Run_bare  +   828d ago
Is that something to be proud off?
PixL  +   829d ago
This is PR bullcrap from him. He says "Pirate it" and still his staff ban accounts from so-called "gift codes" you can buy for 20-50% of the price, which come from fraud purchases. Of course I don't support piracy nor fraud but many people simply don't know they've bought an illegal copy. Those accounts are being offered on legitimate auction portals. They buy one thinking they made a great deal and then, after a few months, they get banned. Imagine loosing all your craft you had...

Either you say "go, get it" and allow it. Like many musicians do, they publish their work on Internet and people who can afford it, buy CDs and the others just download and enjoy. Or you say that you fight piracy and do it with full force. This guy is a hypocrite. Don't fall for his PR lies. His game is nice but let's keep things straight.
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LightofDarkness  +   829d ago
There's a difference between downloading something without paying for it and doing the same but paying someone who didn't create it and is not licensed to sell it. This funds more of the same scam and allowing it continue would only allow a market like that to flourish.

He's essentially saying "take it if you must, but NO ONE profits off of my work except me". Which is a perfectly reasonable attitude, why should someone else profit from his work, and why should he allow those who allow that or enable it to enjoy the fruits of his labour?
PixL  +   829d ago
As I wrote, I don't support scam nor piracy. But why is he saying this? The point is you CAN'T play the game with friends if you pirated it. Which is perfectly understandable but why promote it? Why tell people to do bad things?
Imagine that somebody intentionally leaves an NDS on a bench and hides in the bush with a camera. You pick up that console and then he tapes you and sends the video to the police. That's what he's doing, teasing people to commit crime.

Why not just organize some discount for a limited time. They've earned millions on Minecraft. Games which earn a lot get a quick discount, that's how it works in the industry. Notice the present price of Deus Ex:HR or Battlefield 3. Believe me, 20 euros can be a lot for some people, students for example. Not everybody lives in a rich country.
vortis  +   828d ago
Isn't that what EVERY publisher does on a developer's work and isn't that what EVERY distributor does off of a movie?

Yes sometimes publishers invest in a devs work (i.e., EA with BioWare or Activision with Infinity Ward, etc.,) but other times like in Limbo or Meatboy's case why should MS or anyone else profit from their work if they made it? Essentially that's your argument.

In that regards the scammers are no different than your middleman publishers...like MS and Sony. Oh...or does being part of a big conglomerate make it okay?
LightofDarkness  +   828d ago
" and is not licensed to sell it."

Kind of covered that.

Plus, that's a very different arrangement; in those cases the amount of exposure, advertising and placement that can be gained from those deals increases the profitability, so he still profits from his works. In the case of the scammers, he doesn't get a penny.
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360ICE  +   829d ago
I certainly agree Notch should go all the way if he wants everyone to play his game. But I think he is being sincere. Can't imageine him as a sleazy PR person, not because he's so righteous, but because he's... not the type. To put it (n)icely
Saladfax  +   829d ago
That's kind of what I was thinking. His online existence and persona seem to genuine to be the type of cold and calculating PR monster.

Now, it's possible that the friendly, relaxed, portrayal is in itself a carefully calculated PR presence, but I'd be very surprised to find out such a thing.
gazgriff2k12  +   829d ago
clam down people is there even a way to parate minecraft?. i know there a free version
scrambles  +   829d ago
Easily. I got a version that updates itself and still allows me to connect to servers. Its easily google-able.
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TopDudeMan  +   829d ago
That is just hilarious, but I still don't want to play minecraft. Money really isn't the issue here.
_Aarix_  +   829d ago
:0 you dont wanna play minecraft...blastphemy
gigreen  +   829d ago
Of course he can say that now. He already made like 50 million $ with Minecraft.

But besides that, why would anyone choose gaming as a hobby when he can't even afford a $20 game? If I wanna go snowboarding but can't afford it, I don't go steal a board in a shop either.
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kornbeaner  +   829d ago
But sometimes it doesn't work out that way. This year for me has been the worst in terms of working in over 6 years. Work really dried up last year where I couldn't afford many games. If it wasn't for some pirate action I wouldn't have played half of what I played. I don't condone it but videogames are a passion for me and its not always so simple as I can't afford it. Its just that family and bills when money Comes in takes priority over videogames.
iMaim  +   829d ago
Infamy over money hmm? I like this dev a lot ....
gtxgamer2  +   829d ago
What a cool dude. But i paid to help them out, minecrafts a great game.
Half-Mafia  +   828d ago
Notch has made so much money from Minecraft that his at a point where it doesnt matter anymore.

4.6m copies sold, £17 a copy atm which is £78.2m :o and thats pure profit. No publishers or retail middlemen.
TheObserver  +   828d ago
I remembered that I only bought Minecraft for $5. What the heck, it is $20 now? When did that happened.
Hyperbomb69  +   828d ago
If thats their attitude why dont they make it F2P and ask for donations?
2v1  +   828d ago
where, where can i pirate this game , also mant witcher 2
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wnek9  +   828d ago
bought the game yesterday worth it
Starbucks_Fan  +   828d ago
I actually got it for $6 on eBay not too long ago. Kind of wish I bought it from the official website instead it's well worth it. Oh well.
RXL  +   828d ago
i think this is a trap..

kinda like when my dad says, "yeah, go ahead and go out with your friends"
gr33nFIEND  +   828d ago
Ughhh!! It's a TRAP! I knew it was too good to be true.
Hozi  +   828d ago
Ha! wouldn't pirate this game if it was the only game to Pirate!!! Lame lego looking Mofos chippin cubes all day long. WTF!!!>?
xVeZx  +   828d ago
nuff said

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ChickeyCantor  +   828d ago
When you encourage someone to pirate your own product, it's not piracy. It's simply permission to take it for free, without charge.

So why not just give out a free version, which is complete to an extend but doesn't include all features? If people really want the full experience they will pay for it eventually.
nan0  +   828d ago
How about PAYING FOR MINECRAFT AND WAITING ALMOST 2 WEEKS AND STILL DIDN"T GET TEH SHITTY CODE SO I CAN START PLAYING?

Damn, maybe I should of pirated it. Wanted to fudging help the dude out, and I get screwed over.

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